Re: Stepping through unsupported snow and news about LR

[Guest guest]

If I understand you correctly, it doesn't depend on a particular

weakness but rather on the balance between the vastus medialus and

lateralis. In other words, even if they're both weak, one is still the

stronger of the two.

I had total atrophy of the VMO and the PT said in some cases it can

never come back. But electrical stim and exercise can do wonders. My

VMO is finally coming back albeit kinda concave in one spot - similar

to your description (albeit on the other side).

Don

On Monday, June 7, 2004, at 10:24 PM, ruby2zdy wrote:

> I told my OS about my stepping onto snow that didn't have anything

> under it (he's a hiker so he understood immediately) (both times it

> was my " bad " leg), and he tested me to see if my cruciate and

> collateral ligaments were stretched & said they were OK, but that I

> must have had some bruising since I (still) have swelling. He said

> there's some possibility I tore more meniscus. Great. My first

> attempt to " come back " and I may have damaged my knee.

>

> He also told me something interesting. I had noticed that ever since

> my LR in '95, the vastus lateralis on that leg never returned to

> normal shape -- it's kinda concave. I mentioned this & he said that

> sometimes when they do a LR, they cut across some of the VL fibers, so

> the muscle can't contract normally AND NEVER WILL.

>

> Well great!

>

> But this makes my CP even more of a mystery. If the VL isn't pulling

> the kneecap laterally, then why do I get contact between the patella

> and the femur???????

>

> Any suggestions?

>

> Ann

>

>

[Guest guest]

Re: Stepping through unsupported snow and

news about LR

>If I understand you correctly, it doesn't depend on a particular

weakness but rather on the balance between the vastus medialus and

lateralis.

Well, that's my theory, anyway.

> In other words, even if they're both weak, one is still the

stronger of the two.

In my case, anyway.

>I had total atrophy of the VMO and the PT said in some cases it can

never come back. But electrical stim and exercise can do wonders.

I'd like to try the elec. stim. You can get home units, can't you? What are

they called?

> My

VMO is finally coming back albeit kinda concave in one spot - similar

to your description (albeit on the other side).

Did you have a LR?

Ann

Don

On Monday, June 7, 2004, at 10:24 PM, ruby2zdy wrote:

> I told my OS about my stepping onto snow that didn't have anything

> under it (he's a hiker so he understood immediately) (both times it

> was my " bad " leg), and he tested me to see if my cruciate and

> collateral ligaments were stretched & said they were OK, but that I

> must have had some bruising since I (still) have swelling. He said

> there's some possibility I tore more meniscus. Great. My first

> attempt to " come back " and I may have damaged my knee.

>

> He also told me something interesting. I had noticed that ever since

> my LR in '95, the vastus lateralis on that leg never returned to

> normal shape -- it's kinda concave. I mentioned this & he said that

> sometimes when they do a LR, they cut across some of the VL fibers, so

> the muscle can't contract normally AND NEVER WILL.

>

> Well great!

>

> But this makes my CP even more of a mystery. If the VL isn't pulling

> the kneecap laterally, then why do I get contact between the patella

> and the femur???????

>

> Any suggestions?

>

> Ann

>

>

[Guest guest]

ruby2zdy@... wrote:

> I'd like to try the elec. stim. You can get home units, can't you? What are

they called?

>

>

They're called EMS units (electrical muscle stimulators) and I've seen

them priced around $60-100 dollars. I did a quick search on the web and

found an example:

http://www.allegromedical.com/electrotherapy/ems_nms/biomedical_life/ems_2000.P1\

89390

but I'm sure you can find them cheaper. My HMO (Kaiser) covered mine

though so price may not matter to you. The only annoying thing is that

you need a doctor's prescription to get one.

> My VMO is finally coming back albeit kinda concave in one spot - similar

> to your description (albeit on the other side).

>

> Did you have a LR?

>

No, I've not had a LR.

Don

[Guest guest]

Thanks.

Ann

Re: Stepping through unsupported snow and

news about LR

ruby2zdy@... wrote:

> I'd like to try the elec. stim. You can get home units, can't you? What

are they called?

>

>

They're called EMS units (electrical muscle stimulators) and I've seen

them priced around $60-100 dollars. I did a quick search on the web and

found an example:

http://www.allegromedical.com/electrotherapy/ems_nms/biomedical_life/ems_2000.P1\

89390

but I'm sure you can find them cheaper. My HMO (Kaiser) covered mine

though so price may not matter to you. The only annoying thing is that

you need a doctor's prescription to get one.

> My VMO is finally coming back albeit kinda concave in one spot - similar

> to your description (albeit on the other side).

>

> Did you have a LR?

>

No, I've not had a LR.

Don