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Jed,

Follow this link

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1893441547/qid=1004097618/sr=1-2/ref=

sr_1_14_2/103-8261002-4338249

or see below

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Book Description

Developed as a primary medical training resource and field guide for the

Special Operations Command, the Special Operations Forces Medical Handbook

defines the standard of health care delivery under adverse and general field

conditions. It emphasizes acute care in all its forms (blunt and penetrating

trauma, poisonings, infestations, parasitisms, acute infections, hyper and

hypothermia, high altitude and decompression sickness and much more) as well

as general medicine and sanitation practiced under primitive condidtions. It

is the work of 80 contributors both from the military and civilian practice.

In general topics are covered in a consistent two page format. It is heavily

illustrated with color for quick identification of dermatologic conditions,

insect bites and stings and exposure problems. "

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can anyone tell me more about this book????

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Hi Ian

AFAIK its not the OEMS, this is a new(ish) book published this year.

Amazon however are clearly having some problems sourcing it. I had to order

it from the US website as the UK one doesn't even include it,

The full title is

Special Operations Forces Medical Handbook

by Steve Yevich, Warren Whitlock, Broadhurst, Gay , Pete

Redmond

Paperback 1st edition (June 2001)

Teton NewMedia; ISBN: 1893441547

Extracted from Amazon

Book Info

United States Special Operations Command, Tampa, FL. Comprehensive reference

designed for Special Operations Forces (SOF) medics. Provides approaches to

accessing medical information, such as treatment hierarchy commonly facing

the SOF Medic. Quick-reference and pocket-sized. Two-hole punched with rings

included.

From the Publisher

Special Operations Forces Medical Handbook provides step-by-step illustrated

procedures for performance of surgical procedures under hostile and/or

primitive conditions. It offers alternatives to conventional procedures for

management of a given problem that can be used under less than optimal

circumstances. The physical presentation is designed to hold up under

adverse conditions. It is waterproof, tear resistant and ring bound so that

updated material can be added at will. It is in a small trim size for ease

of carrying and printed on a special stock to aid with reading under poor

light conditions.

About the Author

Created by the Editorial Staff of the United States Special Operations

Command, Office of the Command Surgeon, and over 80 medical specialists from

all branches of the military.

Book Description

Developed as a primary medical training resource and field guide for the

Special Operations Command, the Special Operations Forces Medical Handbook

defines the standard of health care delivery under adverse and general field

conditions. It emphasizes acute care in all its forms (blunt and penetrating

trauma, poisonings, infestations, parasitisms, acute infections, hyper and

hypothermia, high altitude and decompression sickness and much more) as well

as general medicine and sanitation practiced under primitive condidtions. It

is the work of 80 contributors both from the military and civilian practice.

In general topics are covered in a consistent two page format. It is heavily

illustrated with color for quick identification of dermatologic conditions,

insect bites and stings and exposure problems.

Best Wishes

Ian

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Are you referring to the Operational & Emergency Medical Skills (OEMS) book?

if so I have a copy dated Oct 98.

regards

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You may recall a few weeks ago I posted a message

saying that the publishers were sending me a copy

to review as we were interested in putting it in our

next brochure + website etc.

Well I'm still waiting for that copy to arrive.

I have e-mailed the publishers again today, I will

let you know what they say.

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Hi All,

Looks like we may be some time in reviewing the above book,

I ordered it on Sept 11th from Amazon, and I've just been noified of

additional delays expected delivery is now 1 Jan !

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Thanks Steve,

I did think of asking you but you beat me to it.

If you get a copy please let me know

thanks

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Hi All,

Looks like we may be some time in reviewing the above book,

I ordered it on Sept 11th from Amazon, and I've just been noified of

additional delays expected delivery is now 1 Jan !

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ian

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Perhaps it might stir their stumps if you told them that there could be a

decent market in the uk for this and related books, which as we are in this

recent situation with them might be needed by our medics in the not too

distant future? Just a suggestion.

Carpenter

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>Looks like we may be some time in reviewing the above book,

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>I ordered it on Sept 11th from Amazon, and I've just been noified of

>additional delays expected delivery is now 1 Jan !

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>Best wishes

>

>ian

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Had a reply from the publishers during the night,

another copy is being Air Mailed to me from the USA.

Should be here in about 5 days approx

I will keep you all advised as and when

I have more information.

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>Hi All,

>

>Looks like we may be some time in reviewing the above book,

>

>I ordered it on Sept 11th from Amazon, and I've just been noified of

>additional delays expected delivery is now 1 Jan !

>

>Best wishes

>

>ian

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Thanks Steve,

If you can obtain it quicker than I can, I for one would be interested. But

as you say lets wait and see what turns up.

atb

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>Hi All,

>

>Looks like we may be some time in reviewing the above book,

>

>I ordered it on Sept 11th from Amazon, and I've just been noified of

>additional delays expected delivery is now 1 Jan !

>

>Best wishes

>

>ian

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What is the price Steve including air mail?

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>>Hi All,

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>>Looks like we may be some time in reviewing the above book,

>>

>>I ordered it on Sept 11th from Amazon, and I've just been noified of

>>additional delays expected delivery is now 1 Jan !

>>

>>Best wishes

>>

>>ian

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Hi All,

I've just had a mail from Amazon and apparently the book has now been

despatched from the US.

I await its arrival with bated breath.......

Ian

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Looks like we may be some time in reviewing the above book,

I ordered it on Sept 11th from Amazon, and I've just been noified of

additional delays expected delivery is now 1 Jan !

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My copy has just arrived and my initial reaction

is one of dissapointment.

I have not read the content but the style of the book

is that it has got two metal rings like a ring binder

rather than a traditional bound book. The rings are on

the top edge as well, rather than the left side.

Probably fine for the classroom as the book lies flat,

not sure if the rings would lead to more wear n tear

if used out in the field, the paper does look quite strong.

Looking through the list of chapters, there are certainly

subjects and ailments that you do not see in many other

textbooks so I would imagine that Remote Medics would

certainly find it a usefull tool.

In the USA it sells for $49.00, not sure that the UK £

price will be yet. Its quite a heavy book so I will

have to have a look at the shipping charges etc.

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>>Hi All,

>>

>>Looks like we may be some time in reviewing the above book,

>>

>>I ordered it on Sept 11th from Amazon, and I've just been noified of

>>additional delays expected delivery is now 1 Jan !

>>

>>Best wishes

>>

>>ian

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when I was living in aldershot, there was a real good military book shop a

couple of doors up from de boras.... I bought a copy of an american medical

manual for the field, it was very good, I can not recall if it was classed

as SF but it covered every thing you could think of even down to burial

procedures.it cost about twenty quid. any one on the list living in the shot

should nip in and speak to the shop manager.

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I'm at Keogh Barracks later this month,

I might try any nip in to Aldershot to have a look.

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when I was living in aldershot, there was a real good military book shop a

couple of doors up from de boras.... I bought a copy of an american medical

manual for the field, it was very good, I can not recall if it was classed

as SF but it covered every thing you could think of even down to burial

procedures.it cost about twenty quid. any one on the list living in the shot

should nip in and speak to the shop manager.

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Does this book come with a free Balaclava so folks can relive their (however

brief a contact) special forces glory days. :-)

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>when I was living in aldershot, there was a real good military book shop a

>couple of doors up from de boras.... I bought a copy of an american medical

>manual for the field, it was very good, I can not recall if it was classed

>as SF but it covered every thing you could think of even down to burial

>procedures.it cost about twenty quid. any one on the list living in the

>shot

>should nip in and speak to the shop manager.

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Hi Steve,

Mine is somewhere in between the US and the UK, again I'll take a look a

post my thoughts on the group. Again if you find anything else have reading

it please let us know.

Thanks

Ian

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>>Hi All,

>>

>>Looks like we may be some time in reviewing the above book,

>>

>>I ordered it on Sept 11th from Amazon, and I've just been noified of

>>additional delays expected delivery is now 1 Jan !

>>

>>Best wishes

>>

>>ian

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There is a CD rom out there which I have seen in possibly the US army

surplus catalogue by " Brigade Quartermasters " which has 20 or so US Army

medical manuals on it. If any body is interested I'll chase it up with the

guys on the base.

Special Forces Operations Medical Handbook

>>

>>

>>Hi All,

>>

>>Looks like we may be some time in reviewing the above book,

>>

>>I ordered it on Sept 11th from Amazon, and I've just been noified of

>>additional delays expected delivery is now 1 Jan !

>>

>>Best wishes

>>

>>ian

>>

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Only if they had them in the first place Stu ! :-)................

<Cue Camp voice>

Anway I though all our boys in the forces were special....

<end camp voice>

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>Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 13:58:34 -0000

>

>when I was living in aldershot, there was a real good military book shop a

>couple of doors up from de boras.... I bought a copy of an american medical

>manual for the field, it was very good, I can not recall if it was classed

>as SF but it covered every thing you could think of even down to burial

>procedures.it cost about twenty quid. any one on the list living in the

>shot

>should nip in and speak to the shop manager.

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I would be interested in it.

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Re: Special Forces Operations Medical

Handbo ok

There is a CD rom out there which I have seen in possibly the US army

surplus catalogue by " Brigade Quartermasters " which has 20 or so US Army

medical manuals on it. If any body is interested I'll chase it up with the

guys on the base.

Special Forces Operations Medical Handbook

>>

>>

>>Hi All,

>>

>>Looks like we may be some time in reviewing the above book,

>>

>>I ordered it on Sept 11th from Amazon, and I've just been noified of

>>additional delays expected delivery is now 1 Jan !

>>

>>Best wishes

>>

>>ian

>>

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Balaclava's for special forces work or any work in the field? To hell with

that I would rather keep my ears uncovered and stay alive, which is also why

you don't put the hood on the smock up in the field. Basic rule of survival

use all your senses, become like an animal,use the cat as an example to

study (as Reg Lingham of 22 once advised me) and you will live longer.

No special forces man or infantryman worth a damn would ever cover his ears,

it is the first and last sense, even when you are wounded and in shock you

can hear even if you cannot move or see properly.

having read a number of the manuals on the CD mentioned in hard copy, most

are of interest if you are into that kind of reading but usually out of date

some are actually obsolete. All US Army medics are being upgraded to MOS 91W

from 91B which is medic to EMT standard, so the lower level of care is

disappearing. You are better off reading current emergency medical manuals

and if you have to do field work adapting the techniques to the skills and

kit you already have which I am sure are considerable on this list.

There are also Combat Lifesaver levels now below EMT which have a seperate

course reading material to any of those on the CD. most of you are above

that level anyway.

All the best

JC

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>>Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 13:58:34 -0000

>>

>>when I was living in aldershot, there was a real good military book shop a

>>couple of doors up from de boras.... I bought a copy of an american

medical

>>manual for the field, it was very good, I can not recall if it was

classed

>>as SF but it covered every thing you could think of even down to burial

>>procedures.it cost about twenty quid. any one on the list living in the

>>shot

>>should nip in and speak to the shop manager.

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Totally agree, it's a pity they aren't armed better, I am glad I am not

heading for Afghanistan with an SA80 A1 or A2 model, our boys deserve at

least a Diemaco version of the M16,can anyone tell me how the hell you are

supposed to cock, select and use the safety on an SA80 if you are wounded in

the left arm, you could with an SLR and an M16, we used to practice one hand

drills, you cannot even shoot the SA80 from the left shoulder, why the hell

have we spent so much money on that rubbish when our whole armed forces

could have been equipped with M16's for a lot less cash? If our people are

all special why not equip them properly?

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As always Pete, I'd be interested.

Thanks

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Handbo ok

There is a CD rom out there which I have seen in possibly the US army

surplus catalogue by " Brigade Quartermasters " which has 20 or so US Army

medical manuals on it. If any body is interested I'll chase it up with the

guys on the base.

Special Forces Operations Medical Handbook

>>

>>

>>Hi All,

>>

>>Looks like we may be some time in reviewing the above book,

>>

>>I ordered it on Sept 11th from Amazon, and I've just been noified of

>>additional delays expected delivery is now 1 Jan !

>>

>>Best wishes

>>

>>ian

>>

>>__________________________________________

>>Ian Sharpe

>>International SOS Paramedic

>>AGIP Kco Marine Supply Base

>>Bautino, Republic of Kazakhstan

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Pete Don't know about special forces medical handbook, but I want the

and Jane put bandages on book, Is that the new name for the latest edition

SJA First Aid Manual :-0

<Tongue Firmly in Cheek, with wide grin>

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I'm interested.

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sod this SF stuff...

I wrapped my weapon in a black bag, my nbc suit on, hood up, and at least 18

hours in my maggot... pass me another bottle of herfy... call me at endex.

any one can be cold wet and hungry...........

look out WH s at Christmas, for the special forces SJA new edition

manual, its forwarded by astronaut armstong and the third mitchel brother

from east enders, who know a bloke down the pub that was on the Iranian

embassy balcony.... and saw a quick way to make a few quid of people that

are fascinated with the SF stuff. works every year.

steve

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