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Have you tried McConnell taping for your kneecap?

Ann

Elliptical trainer

Hi All,

I am a 27 yr old female and was diagnosed with Chondromalacia about a

year ago. Went to physical therapy for a month and then stopped doing

the exercises as I got pregnant and lazy :) Plus pregnancy somehow

reduces the aches and pains and my knee just didn't bother me. But

now, three months after delivery, I am slowly starting to feel the

pain in the knee if I exert it too much. But I am trying to lose

weight and would like exercise. Started walking from a month and the

pain is still there. Can't walk briskly as the knee bothers.Just

wanted to know if we can do elliptical trainers or is it just equal

to running and not advisable....anyone here has any ideas to share?

Ellipticals seem to help better in weight loss than walking..

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The taping has really helped me get around again. At the very least I feel that

it helps keep the knee cartilage from being continuously irritated.

Eileen

Elliptical trainer

Hi All,

I am a 27 yr old female and was diagnosed with Chondromalacia about a

year ago. Went to physical therapy for a month and then stopped doing

the exercises as I got pregnant and lazy :) Plus pregnancy somehow

reduces the aches and pains and my knee just didn't bother me. But

now, three months after delivery, I am slowly starting to feel the

pain in the knee if I exert it too much. But I am trying to lose

weight and would like exercise. Started walking from a month and the

pain is still there. Can't walk briskly as the knee bothers.Just

wanted to know if we can do elliptical trainers or is it just equal

to running and not advisable....anyone here has any ideas to share?

Ellipticals seem to help better in weight loss than walking..

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After I had my operation (last Jan.), where he removed a torn part of my lateral

meniscus and smoothed out the CP, I still have CP pain and have to use knee

tape. My doc believes that once my VMO has been built back up, it'll counteract

whatever's pulling my kneecap laterally. I'm not so sure, but am giving it the

old college try. Anyway, knee tape has been my savior in the meantime.

Ann

Elliptical trainer

Hi All,

I am a 27 yr old female and was diagnosed with Chondromalacia about a

year ago. Went to physical therapy for a month and then stopped doing

the exercises as I got pregnant and lazy :) Plus pregnancy somehow

reduces the aches and pains and my knee just didn't bother me. But

now, three months after delivery, I am slowly starting to feel the

pain in the knee if I exert it too much. But I am trying to lose

weight and would like exercise. Started walking from a month and the

pain is still there. Can't walk briskly as the knee bothers.Just

wanted to know if we can do elliptical trainers or is it just equal

to running and not advisable....anyone here has any ideas to share?

Ellipticals seem to help better in weight loss than walking..

-C

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How long is the recovery period usually after getting your knees scoped.

Elliptical trainer

Hi All,

I am a 27 yr old female and was diagnosed with Chondromalacia about a

year ago. Went to physical therapy for a month and then stopped doing

the exercises as I got pregnant and lazy :) Plus pregnancy somehow

reduces the aches and pains and my knee just didn't bother me. But

now, three months after delivery, I am slowly starting to feel the

pain in the knee if I exert it too much. But I am trying to lose

weight and would like exercise. Started walking from a month and the

pain is still there. Can't walk briskly as the knee bothers.Just

wanted to know if we can do elliptical trainers or is it just equal

to running and not advisable....anyone here has any ideas to share?

Ellipticals seem to help better in weight loss than walking..

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When I had my lateral release in '95 I'd say maybe 10 days. I don't know why it

was so painful after the operation, because all he did was go through the knee &

cut the lateral retinaculum, but it was very painful for a few days. After my

scope last Jan. I had zero recovery time in terms of internal knee pain. You'd

think after he cut off part of the meniscus and debrided several areas of

chondromalacia, it would have hurt like hell, but it never did. I did have

swelling for a month or so, and this limited the amt I could bend my knee, but

no pain (except of course, when I did anything requiring the patella to rub

against the femur).

Ann

Elliptical trainer

Hi All,

I am a 27 yr old female and was diagnosed with Chondromalacia about a

year ago. Went to physical therapy for a month and then stopped doing

the exercises as I got pregnant and lazy :) Plus pregnancy somehow

reduces the aches and pains and my knee just didn't bother me. But

now, three months after delivery, I am slowly starting to feel the

pain in the knee if I exert it too much. But I am trying to lose

weight and would like exercise. Started walking from a month and the

pain is still there. Can't walk briskly as the knee bothers.Just

wanted to know if we can do elliptical trainers or is it just equal

to running and not advisable....anyone here has any ideas to share?

Ellipticals seem to help better in weight loss than walking..

-C

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A scope is just the type of surgery they do and it all depends on

what they do inside your knee and everybody is different with

recovery.I had a LR at the beginning of June and it was an open

surgery and I found it the least painful of all my surgeries. All the

rest where scopes and the fifth surgery was the most painful because

they did microfracture under my patella along with some other stuff.

I still have the pain from my last surgery but the bone on bone pain

is gone. I personally think the quicker you can get to PT after

surgery and get your muscles and ROM back plays a major roll in pain

and recovery. Good luck with your scope.

> When I had my lateral release in '95 I'd say maybe 10 days. I

don't know why it was so painful after the operation, because all he

did was go through the knee & cut the lateral retinaculum, but it was

very painful for a few days. After my scope last Jan. I had zero

recovery time in terms of internal knee pain. You'd think after he

cut off part of the meniscus and debrided several areas of

chondromalacia, it would have hurt like hell, but it never did. I

did have swelling for a month or so, and this limited the amt I could

bend my knee, but no pain (except of course, when I did anything

requiring the patella to rub against the femur).

>

> Ann

> Elliptical trainer

>

>

> Hi All,

>

> I am a 27 yr old female and was diagnosed with

Chondromalacia about a

> year ago. Went to physical therapy for a month and then

stopped doing

> the exercises as I got pregnant and lazy :) Plus

pregnancy somehow

> reduces the aches and pains and my knee just didn't

bother me. But

> now, three months after delivery, I am slowly starting to

feel the

> pain in the knee if I exert it too much. But I am trying

to lose

> weight and would like exercise. Started walking from a

month and the

> pain is still there. Can't walk briskly as the knee

bothers.Just

> wanted to know if we can do elliptical trainers or is it

just equal

> to running and not advisable....anyone here has any ideas

to share?

> Ellipticals seem to help better in weight loss than

walking..

>

> -C

>

>

>

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By " open surgery " do you mean they cut you from the outside on the lateral side

& did the LR from there? I'm interested in this because if I have another LR,

I'd like it done from the outside if they can.

Ann

Elliptical trainer

>

>

> Hi All,

>

> I am a 27 yr old female and was diagnosed with

Chondromalacia about a

> year ago. Went to physical therapy for a month and then

stopped doing

> the exercises as I got pregnant and lazy :) Plus

pregnancy somehow

> reduces the aches and pains and my knee just didn't

bother me. But

> now, three months after delivery, I am slowly starting to

feel the

> pain in the knee if I exert it too much. But I am trying

to lose

> weight and would like exercise. Started walking from a

month and the

> pain is still there. Can't walk briskly as the knee

bothers.Just

> wanted to know if we can do elliptical trainers or is it

just equal

> to running and not advisable....anyone here has any ideas

to share?

> Ellipticals seem to help better in weight loss than

walking..

>

> -C

>

>

>

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They did an open and a scope on me the last time. I have about a

three inch cut down the middle of my patella and a hole from the

scope on the inside of my knee near the bottom. The reason he did

this was because if the LR didn't work then I would have had to have

a TTT and he could use the same cut. I posted a picture after surgery

if you want to see what it looked like. I saw my OS earlier this week

and he cut along the lateral side and along the top of my patella. He

said it was a large lateral release. The first night was hell when

the freezing came out but I have been doing great ever since. My OS,

GP and PT can't believe the difference this surgery has done for me.

I knew the day after my last surgery in November it didn't work and

this time I knew the day after it did. My patella used to rub against

the groove every step I took and it hurt like hell every day. I used

to eat percicet like smarties before the LR and now I'm down to one

in the morning and one later on in the evening.

http://ca.f2.pg.photos./ph/kneessuck/album?.dir=/a5ca

> > When I had my lateral release in '95 I'd say maybe 10 days. I

> don't know why it was so painful after the operation, because all

he

> did was go through the knee & cut the lateral retinaculum, but it

was

> very painful for a few days. After my scope last Jan. I had zero

> recovery time in terms of internal knee pain. You'd think after

he

> cut off part of the meniscus and debrided several areas of

> chondromalacia, it would have hurt like hell, but it never did.

I

> did have swelling for a month or so, and this limited the amt I

could

> bend my knee, but no pain (except of course, when I did anything

> requiring the patella to rub against the femur).

> >

> > Ann

> > Elliptical trainer

> >

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > I am a 27 yr old female and was diagnosed with

> Chondromalacia about a

> > year ago. Went to physical therapy for a month and

then

> stopped doing

> > the exercises as I got pregnant and lazy :) Plus

> pregnancy somehow

> > reduces the aches and pains and my knee just didn't

> bother me. But

> > now, three months after delivery, I am slowly

starting to

> feel the

> > pain in the knee if I exert it too much. But I am

trying

> to lose

> > weight and would like exercise. Started walking from

a

> month and the

> > pain is still there. Can't walk briskly as the knee

> bothers.Just

> > wanted to know if we can do elliptical trainers or is

it

> just equal

> > to running and not advisable....anyone here has any

ideas

> to share?

> > Ellipticals seem to help better in weight loss than

> walking..

> >

> > -C

> >

> >

> >

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I thought I would add one more thing that I forgot to say earlier.

When I took the tape off I thought there would be a bunch of stitches

but to my surprise all that was there was a cut. I guess they

stitched the inside of the cut and then just put tape on the outside.

It looks just like a scratch and not a nasty scar.

> > > When I had my lateral release in '95 I'd say maybe 10 days.

I

> > don't know why it was so painful after the operation, because

all

> he

> > did was go through the knee & cut the lateral retinaculum, but

it

> was

> > very painful for a few days. After my scope last Jan. I had

zero

> > recovery time in terms of internal knee pain. You'd think

after

> he

> > cut off part of the meniscus and debrided several areas of

> > chondromalacia, it would have hurt like hell, but it never

did.

> I

> > did have swelling for a month or so, and this limited the amt I

> could

> > bend my knee, but no pain (except of course, when I did

anything

> > requiring the patella to rub against the femur).

> > >

> > > Ann

> > > Elliptical

trainer

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi All,

> > >

> > > I am a 27 yr old female and was diagnosed with

> > Chondromalacia about a

> > > year ago. Went to physical therapy for a month and

> then

> > stopped doing

> > > the exercises as I got pregnant and lazy :) Plus

> > pregnancy somehow

> > > reduces the aches and pains and my knee just didn't

> > bother me. But

> > > now, three months after delivery, I am slowly

> starting to

> > feel the

> > > pain in the knee if I exert it too much. But I am

> trying

> > to lose

> > > weight and would like exercise. Started walking

from

> a

> > month and the

> > > pain is still there. Can't walk briskly as the knee

> > bothers.Just

> > > wanted to know if we can do elliptical trainers or

is

> it

> > just equal

> > > to running and not advisable....anyone here has any

> ideas

> > to share?

> > > Ellipticals seem to help better in weight loss than

> > walking..

> > >

> > > -C

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Cool! Were you by any chance awake during the open operation?

Ann

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trainer

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi All,

> > >

> > > I am a 27 yr old female and was diagnosed with

> > Chondromalacia about a

> > > year ago. Went to physical therapy for a month and

> then

> > stopped doing

> > > the exercises as I got pregnant and lazy :) Plus

> > pregnancy somehow

> > > reduces the aches and pains and my knee just didn't

> > bother me. But

> > > now, three months after delivery, I am slowly

> starting to

> > feel the

> > > pain in the knee if I exert it too much. But I am

> trying

> > to lose

> > > weight and would like exercise. Started walking

from

> a

> > month and the

> > > pain is still there. Can't walk briskly as the knee

> > bothers.Just

> > > wanted to know if we can do elliptical trainers or

is

> it

> > just equal

> > > to running and not advisable....anyone here has any

> ideas

> > to share?

> > > Ellipticals seem to help better in weight loss than

> > walking..

> > >

> > > -C

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Wow! That is some swollen knee! I'm glad it worked. I'm tired of waiting for

my VMO to develop & wish my OS would just go ahead & do an LR, but I see his

point.

Ann

Elliptical trainer

> >

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > I am a 27 yr old female and was diagnosed with

> Chondromalacia about a

> > year ago. Went to physical therapy for a month and

then

> stopped doing

> > the exercises as I got pregnant and lazy :) Plus

> pregnancy somehow

> > reduces the aches and pains and my knee just didn't

> bother me. But

> > now, three months after delivery, I am slowly

starting to

> feel the

> > pain in the knee if I exert it too much. But I am

trying

> to lose

> > weight and would like exercise. Started walking from

a

> month and the

> > pain is still there. Can't walk briskly as the knee

> bothers.Just

> > wanted to know if we can do elliptical trainers or is

it

> just equal

> > to running and not advisable....anyone here has any

ideas

> to share?

> > Ellipticals seem to help better in weight loss than

> walking..

> >

> > -C

> >

> >

> >

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I think they always knock you out when it's an open procedure but I'm

not sure. My knee might look bad but it feels better now than it has

in four years. I have been doing my exercises at home and PT 3x a

week. I have read that some people are still on crutches until four

weeks post op but I could walk the second day. This surgery is not

for everybody with tracking problems but so far it has given me hope

to getting back to some of the stuff I thought I could never do

again. My OS and GP seem to think that I could be golfing by the

middle of July and I can go back to my old job. My employer was

trying to get rid of me for the last year because of my knee problems

and surgeries. My OS changed my duties to sedentary before I had this

surgery and they said there was nothing wrong with my knee and I went

and got surgery(7x) to get an easier job. I'm not going to get into

that much as there is not enough in this forum for that story.

> > > > When I had my lateral release in '95 I'd say maybe 10

days.

> I

> > > don't know why it was so painful after the operation,

because

> all

> > he

> > > did was go through the knee & cut the lateral retinaculum,

but

> it

> > was

> > > very painful for a few days. After my scope last Jan. I

had

> zero

> > > recovery time in terms of internal knee pain. You'd think

> after

> > he

> > > cut off part of the meniscus and debrided several areas of

> > > chondromalacia, it would have hurt like hell, but it never

> did.

> > I

> > > did have swelling for a month or so, and this limited the

amt I

> > could

> > > bend my knee, but no pain (except of course, when I did

> anything

> > > requiring the patella to rub against the femur).

> > > >

> > > > Ann

> > > > Elliptical

> trainer

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > >

> > > > I am a 27 yr old female and was diagnosed with

> > > Chondromalacia about a

> > > > year ago. Went to physical therapy for a month

and

> > then

> > > stopped doing

> > > > the exercises as I got pregnant and lazy :)

Plus

> > > pregnancy somehow

> > > > reduces the aches and pains and my knee just

didn't

> > > bother me. But

> > > > now, three months after delivery, I am slowly

> > starting to

> > > feel the

> > > > pain in the knee if I exert it too much. But I

am

> > trying

> > > to lose

> > > > weight and would like exercise. Started walking

> from

> > a

> > > month and the

> > > > pain is still there. Can't walk briskly as the

knee

> > > bothers.Just

> > > > wanted to know if we can do elliptical trainers

or

> is

> > it

> > > just equal

> > > > to running and not advisable....anyone here has

any

> > ideas

> > > to share?

> > > > Ellipticals seem to help better in weight loss

than

> > > walking..

> > > >

> > > > -C

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Well that gives me a baseline. I would like to be medication free but if a

little bit gets me thru the day, I will take it.

Elliptical trainer

> >

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > I am a 27 yr old female and was diagnosed with

> Chondromalacia about a

> > year ago. Went to physical therapy for a month and

then

> stopped doing

> > the exercises as I got pregnant and lazy :) Plus

> pregnancy somehow

> > reduces the aches and pains and my knee just didn't

> bother me. But

> > now, three months after delivery, I am slowly

starting to

> feel the

> > pain in the knee if I exert it too much. But I am

trying

> to lose

> > weight and would like exercise. Started walking from

a

> month and the

> > pain is still there. Can't walk briskly as the knee

> bothers.Just

> > wanted to know if we can do elliptical trainers or is

it

> just equal

> > to running and not advisable....anyone here has any

ideas

> to share?

> > Ellipticals seem to help better in weight loss than

> walking..

> >

> > -C

> >

> >

> >

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Elliptical

> trainer

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > >

> > > > I am a 27 yr old female and was diagnosed with

> > > Chondromalacia about a

> > > > year ago. Went to physical therapy for a month

and

> > then

> > > stopped doing

> > > > the exercises as I got pregnant and lazy :)

Plus

> > > pregnancy somehow

> > > > reduces the aches and pains and my knee just

didn't

> > > bother me. But

> > > > now, three months after delivery, I am slowly

> > starting to

> > > feel the

> > > > pain in the knee if I exert it too much. But I

am

> > trying

> > > to lose

> > > > weight and would like exercise. Started walking

> from

> > a

> > > month and the

> > > > pain is still there. Can't walk briskly as the

knee

> > > bothers.Just

> > > > wanted to know if we can do elliptical trainers

or

> is

> > it

> > > just equal

> > > > to running and not advisable....anyone here has

any

> > ideas

> > > to share?

> > > > Ellipticals seem to help better in weight loss

than

> > > walking..

> > > >

> > > > -C

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Why would you not want arthroscopy? It was developed specifically for

drastic reduction in surgical pain....less unnecessary cutting equals less

pain.

I had one of the first appendectomies done locally by scope about 12 years

ago. I didn't even hardly know I had surgery. Open surgery is easier for

the surgeon. I'm sure they wouldn't argue.

Mike

MT

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> By " open surgery " do you mean they cut you from the outside on the lateral

side & did the LR from there? I'm interested in this because if I have

another LR, I'd like it done from the outside if they can.

>

> Ann

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I agree with mike about a scope over an open surgery. There are alot

of OS that do a lateral release through a scope but some prefer to

see exactly what they are cutting. My OS wanted to see the inside of

my knee to make sure he had cut enough to make my patella sit right

again. I had a pretty bad tilt going on in there and he wanted to

make sure so we didn't have to do it again. He used the scope for my

meniscus and did microfracture on the groove that my patella was

rubbing against. I believe that most open lateral releases are done

on the lateral side of the knee but like I said before my OS thought

I would need a TTT if this didn't work out and he could use the same

cut.

> Why would you not want arthroscopy? It was developed specifically

for

> drastic reduction in surgical pain....less unnecessary cutting

equals less

> pain.

>

> I had one of the first appendectomies done locally by scope about

12 years

> ago. I didn't even hardly know I had surgery. Open surgery is

easier for

> the surgeon. I'm sure they wouldn't argue.

>

> Mike

> MT

>

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>

>

> > By " open surgery " do you mean they cut you from the outside on

the lateral

> side & did the LR from there? I'm interested in this because if I

have

> another LR, I'd like it done from the outside if they can.

> >

> > Ann

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I found out that if you try to take your pain meds before your pain

gets too bad the first few days after surgery and then start using

them as needed when the pain eases off. Some people get worried about

getting addicted to pain meds but if you have pain then take them,

thats what they are for. You will know when to back off. If you don't

have pain and you continue to take them,then you have a problem.

> > > When I had my lateral release in '95 I'd say maybe 10

days. I

> > don't know why it was so painful after the operation, because

all

> he

> > did was go through the knee & cut the lateral retinaculum,

but it

> was

> > very painful for a few days. After my scope last Jan. I had

zero

> > recovery time in terms of internal knee pain. You'd think

after

> he

> > cut off part of the meniscus and debrided several areas of

> > chondromalacia, it would have hurt like hell, but it never

did.

> I

> > did have swelling for a month or so, and this limited the amt

I

> could

> > bend my knee, but no pain (except of course, when I did

anything

> > requiring the patella to rub against the femur).

> > >

> > > Ann

> > > Elliptical

trainer

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi All,

> > >

> > > I am a 27 yr old female and was diagnosed with

> > Chondromalacia about a

> > > year ago. Went to physical therapy for a month

and

> then

> > stopped doing

> > > the exercises as I got pregnant and lazy :) Plus

> > pregnancy somehow

> > > reduces the aches and pains and my knee just

didn't

> > bother me. But

> > > now, three months after delivery, I am slowly

> starting to

> > feel the

> > > pain in the knee if I exert it too much. But I am

> trying

> > to lose

> > > weight and would like exercise. Started walking

from

> a

> > month and the

> > > pain is still there. Can't walk briskly as the

knee

> > bothers.Just

> > > wanted to know if we can do elliptical trainers

or is

> it

> > just equal

> > > to running and not advisable....anyone here has

any

> ideas

> > to share?

> > > Ellipticals seem to help better in weight loss

than

> > walking..

> > >

> > > -C

> > >

> > >

> > >

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It seems to me that for a lateral release (or IT band release) done from the

outside, they could just inject you with Novocain or whatever they use when it's

not your teeth they're working on (I think it's bupivicaine or bipuvicaine or

something like that). That they could inject the skin area, then the IT band,

then the retinaculum, or all at once.

Ann

Elliptical

> trainer

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > >

> > > > I am a 27 yr old female and was diagnosed with

> > > Chondromalacia about a

> > > > year ago. Went to physical therapy for a month

and

> > then

> > > stopped doing

> > > > the exercises as I got pregnant and lazy :)

Plus

> > > pregnancy somehow

> > > > reduces the aches and pains and my knee just

didn't

> > > bother me. But

> > > > now, three months after delivery, I am slowly

> > starting to

> > > feel the

> > > > pain in the knee if I exert it too much. But I

am

> > trying

> > > to lose

> > > > weight and would like exercise. Started walking

> from

> > a

> > > month and the

> > > > pain is still there. Can't walk briskly as the

knee

> > > bothers.Just

> > > > wanted to know if we can do elliptical trainers

or

> is

> > it

> > > just equal

> > > > to running and not advisable....anyone here has

any

> > ideas

> > > to share?

> > > > Ellipticals seem to help better in weight loss

than

> > > walking..

> > > >

> > > > -C

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Because I don't like being knocked out. I think arthroscopy was developed for

extensive inner knee surgery, and/or repairing ACL/LCL's, etc. When I had my LR

done, part of my vastus lateralis was cut (my OS said this is common). I don't

know how the lateral knee tissues are layered, but apparently the LR is outside

the VL. If they came in from the outside, I'm assuming they wouldn't have to

cut part of the VL to do the LR. That's why I'm interested in an external cut.

I don't care about the scar.

Ann

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> By " open surgery " do you mean they cut you from the outside on the lateral

side & did the LR from there? I'm interested in this because if I have

another LR, I'd like it done from the outside if they can.

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A lateral release it not a little surgery. You must have better pain

meds than me if you could handle not being knocked out. If you get

sick from anaesthetic then talk to your surgeon/anaesthetic Dr and

I'm sure they can do something for you. You could also ask them about

a spinal but for me I just want to go to sleep.

From what I can remember about the OR room is that it's cold, the

table you lay on is too small (I'm 6'3 " )and my surgeon has rubber

boots on. Why would you want to be awake?

> Because I don't like being knocked out. I think arthroscopy was

developed for extensive inner knee surgery, and/or repairing

ACL/LCL's, etc. When I had my LR done, part of my vastus lateralis

was cut (my OS said this is common). I don't know how the lateral

knee tissues are layered, but apparently the LR is outside the VL.

If they came in from the outside, I'm assuming they wouldn't have to

cut part of the VL to do the LR. That's why I'm interested in an

external cut. I don't care about the scar.

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the lateral

> side & did the LR from there? I'm interested in this because if

I have

> another LR, I'd like it done from the outside if they can.

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I think this is something you would want to discuss with your surgeon.

Again, the only reason I understand arthroscopy was developed was to

drastically reduce surgery trauma. All the surgeries now done with it that

I know of were done before arthroscopy was even developed. I'm not sure I

would want an incision directly over a lateral release anyway. With a LR

you are already cutting most of the connective tissue between the kneecap

and outer skin. If that were the case, I would think it would be hard to

get an incision to heal over a LR, especially if you wanted to use the knee

any time soon.

I understand what you are saying about scars though. I have so many scars I

always wear long pants and a shirt :).

Mike

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> Because I don't like being knocked out. I think arthroscopy was developed

for extensive inner knee surgery, and/or repairing ACL/LCL's, etc. When I

had my LR done, part of my vastus lateralis was cut (my OS said this is

common). I don't know how the lateral knee tissues are layered, but

apparently the LR is outside the VL. If they came in from the outside, I'm

assuming they wouldn't have to cut part of the VL to do the LR. That's why

I'm interested in an external cut. I don't care about the scar.

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I don't understand why an incision in the skin overlying an incision in the LR

would take longer to heal -- ??

I'm sure you're too young to remember, but when I was a kid there was a movie

entitled " Ten Scars Make a Man " . Believe it or not, me being a girl and all,

this movie had a profound effect on me. I understood that " A Man " meant " brave "

and, being 10 or so, I wanted to be seen as brave. So I've never minded getting

scars. Of course, if I had a deep scar across my face, I'd probably mind, esp.

since I'm into plastic surgery for looks.

I guess half of you are going to start thinking of me as shallow now, since I

believe in plastic surgery.

Ann

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> Because I don't like being knocked out. I think arthroscopy was developed

for extensive inner knee surgery, and/or repairing ACL/LCL's, etc. When I

had my LR done, part of my vastus lateralis was cut (my OS said this is

common). I don't know how the lateral knee tissues are layered, but

apparently the LR is outside the VL. If they came in from the outside, I'm

assuming they wouldn't have to cut part of the VL to do the LR. That's why

I'm interested in an external cut. I don't care about the scar.

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That was just my personal theory. I am not a doctor. :)

Mike

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> I don't understand why an incision in the skin overlying an incision in

the LR would take longer to heal -- ??

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Oh, me neither. But it's fun to feel like one!! (|-)

Ann

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> I don't understand why an incision in the skin overlying an incision in

the LR would take longer to heal -- ??

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