Re: Patellofemoral replacement & European medicine (two different topics)

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Patellofemoral replacement & European

medicine (two different topics)

> Mike -- thanks for the lead, but I had trouble getting much info from the

site. Maybe I didn't look on the right pages, although I think I looked at

all their pages. They sort of vaguely refer occasionally to a

patellofemoral replacement, but they have hardly anything to say about it

except that they don't know how long it lasts. What did you get out of

their site?

>

> In case I haven't said this recently, I've found (and my dermatological

surgeon confirmed, and I assume this happens in all medical fields) that the

FDA lets European researchers and physicians use " new " developments on their

patients for TWENTY YEARS before they'll approve them for use here. So if

any of you have money or an insurance policy that would cover you in Europe,

you might be able to find better treatment options there. Unfortunately, I

have no leads in Europe at this time.

That's why I suggested the Avon device. It was developed in Europe some

years ago, and has been used in this country for almost 3 years now;

http://www.aaos.org/wordhtml/anmt2003/sciprog/195.htm

Mike

MT

[Guest guest]

OK, thanks for the abstract. I wonder how this implant compares with the one

used by Dr. Grelsamer.

Also, do you have a ref. for use of the Avon kneecap implant in Europe?

Ann

Patellofemoral replacement & European

medicine (two different topics)

> Mike -- thanks for the lead, but I had trouble getting much info from the

site. Maybe I didn't look on the right pages, although I think I looked at

all their pages. They sort of vaguely refer occasionally to a

patellofemoral replacement, but they have hardly anything to say about it

except that they don't know how long it lasts. What did you get out of

their site?

>

> In case I haven't said this recently, I've found (and my dermatological

surgeon confirmed, and I assume this happens in all medical fields) that the

FDA lets European researchers and physicians use " new " developments on their

patients for TWENTY YEARS before they'll approve them for use here. So if

any of you have money or an insurance policy that would cover you in Europe,

you might be able to find better treatment options there. Unfortunately, I

have no leads in Europe at this time.

That's why I suggested the Avon device. It was developed in Europe some

years ago, and has been used in this country for almost 3 years now;

http://www.aaos.org/wordhtml/anmt2003/sciprog/195.htm

Mike

MT

[Guest guest]

Patellofemoral replacement &

European

> medicine (two different topics)

>

>

> > Mike -- thanks for the lead, but I had trouble getting much info from

the

> site. Maybe I didn't look on the right pages, although I think I looked

at

> all their pages. They sort of vaguely refer occasionally to a

> patellofemoral replacement, but they have hardly anything to say about

it

> except that they don't know how long it lasts. What did you get out of

> their site?

> >

> > In case I haven't said this recently, I've found (and my

dermatological

> surgeon confirmed, and I assume this happens in all medical fields) that

the

> FDA lets European researchers and physicians use " new " developments on

their

> patients for TWENTY YEARS before they'll approve them for use here. So

if

> any of you have money or an insurance policy that would cover you in

Europe,

> you might be able to find better treatment options there.

Unfortunately, I

> have no leads in Europe at this time.

>

> That's why I suggested the Avon device. It was developed in Europe some

> years ago, and has been used in this country for almost 3 years now;

>

> http://www.aaos.org/wordhtml/anmt2003/sciprog/195.htm

>

>

> Mike

> MT

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks.

Ann

Patellofemoral replacement &

European

> medicine (two different topics)

>

>

> > Mike -- thanks for the lead, but I had trouble getting much info from

the

> site. Maybe I didn't look on the right pages, although I think I looked

at

> all their pages. They sort of vaguely refer occasionally to a

> patellofemoral replacement, but they have hardly anything to say about

it

> except that they don't know how long it lasts. What did you get out of

> their site?

> >

> > In case I haven't said this recently, I've found (and my

dermatological

> surgeon confirmed, and I assume this happens in all medical fields) that

the

> FDA lets European researchers and physicians use " new " developments on

their

> patients for TWENTY YEARS before they'll approve them for use here. So

if

> any of you have money or an insurance policy that would cover you in

Europe,

> you might be able to find better treatment options there.

Unfortunately, I

> have no leads in Europe at this time.

>

> That's why I suggested the Avon device. It was developed in Europe some

> years ago, and has been used in this country for almost 3 years now;

>

> http://www.aaos.org/wordhtml/anmt2003/sciprog/195.htm

>

>

> Mike

> MT

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Re: Patellofemoral replacement &

European medicine (two different topics)

Because of the easier approval process in

> Europe, just because a new procedure is being used,

> doesn't mean that it is safe or effective.

It can work to our advantage.....letting the Europeans be the gunea pigs.

Mike

MT

[Guest guest]

very true

--- Mike Bernhardt <mlbernhardt@...> wrote:

>

> Re:

> Patellofemoral replacement &

> European medicine (two different topics)

>

>

> Because of the easier approval process in

> > Europe, just because a new procedure is being

> used,

> > doesn't mean that it is safe or effective.

>

> It can work to our advantage.....letting the

> Europeans be the gunea pigs.

>

>

> Mike

> MT

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mike said:

>It [letting Europe test medicines and procedures] can work to >our

advantage.....letting the Europeans be the gunea pigs.

>

Yes, but I think a 20-year test is too long for many things, like kneecap

replacement.

Ann

[Guest guest]

Re: Patellofemoral replacement &

European medicine (two different topics)

>

>

> Mike said:

>

> >It [letting Europe test medicines and procedures] can work to >our

advantage.....letting the Europeans be the gunea pigs.

> >

>

> Yes, but I think a 20-year test is too long for many things, like

kneecap replacement.

That's true, especially if your only alternative is to be disabled.

Sometimes I swear many doctors can't even think rationally. They tell me

they don't want to do a PKR because it is too experimental and then the only

alternative if it doesn't work is a TKR. Then they turn right around and

say the only real solution is a TKR. I don't think I am at that point yet,

but if my knees don't get better by fall I will even travel to the east

coast and visit with a doctor who will at least consider a PKR. In the mean

time I will stick with physical therapy on my own, conservative arthroscopy,

glucosamine, vioxx, and pain killers if the pain gets intolerable. I just

had arthroscopy today and at least until the injected pain killer wears off

I am feeling pretty comfortable. If my operated knee begins to feel better

than the unoperated on knee, I will immediately have the other knee done.

Mike

MT