Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 We found the following works well for our son: (casein free version) of Specific Carbohydrate Diet - as it has loads of honey and fruit in its recipes, it is recommended you cut down on those until yeast is under control. This diet is very helpful for tons of other things, especially bacterial overgrowth. I'm sure Dr Bock will mention it as well. Good probiotic (avoid those with added FOS and insulin). If you can your son to take these they are supposed to be great for yeast: grapefruit seed extract, raw (crushed) garlic, these and many others are listed here: http://www.ei-resource.org/anti-fungal.asp Good luck, Natasa > > Thanks to Mandy and Lilian for their answers to my question re. DMG. > > Now I have got another issue (sorry folks, I have little experience > in this field...) > > The OAT result (Great Plains) of my daughter apparently showed > slight yeast overgrowth. > > Citramalic, succinic, aconitic is slightly elevated while citric is > way above top (at 1219 from a range of 180 - 560). > > My appointment with dr Bock is in May, meanwhile I am hoping that I > can do something about it. > > Can anybody share " a recipe " to treat yeast ? > > Any advice is greatly appreciated. > > thanks in advance, > Tetty > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 In a message dated 23/01/2006 11:38:55 GMT Standard Time, heradini@... writes: Can anybody share "a recipe" to treat yeast ? >>>Oh thats a lovely of putting it. Do you notice any symptoms physically, sensory or in behaviour? I ask this because you can go too strong with the yeast treatments and things swing the other way and so it goes on (been there, done that, I have many T-shirts in a variety of different colours LOL) First and most important thing to do is to pull the sugar. Be careful not to replace with Asparatme. Personally I would try Candex/Candigest next for 7-10 days and see what reaction that brings. Do you use any probiotics? My favourites are CP1 which is 25 Billion (at least) per cap of assorted strains and Kirkmans Sacc Bourlardii which is yeast - but a bad yeast, eating yeast How old is your lad? Does he have bad poops or musty smelling wee? Mandi in Dorset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Hi Mandi, My daughter is 2.2 years. She exhibits a mild stim behaviours such as toe walking, spinning and handflapping. Sensory wise, generally hyposensitive but normal tolerance of pain. Other than that, not so handy in climbing stairs or playing with slides. Physically healthy, no history of ear infections nor diarrhea. No rashes. I can't tell if the stools is normal or not but yes smells strong (sorry!). She has bowel movement every 2 days since I introduce more solid food (btw, is this frequency still normal ?) I don't know whether those symptoms are yeast related, because she also has high toxic metals (Hg, Lead, Al,Arsenic, Nickel and Tin). Any idea ? I did a yeast sensitivity test besides OAT but no yeast isolated. GPL said the yeast is not homogeneous in the stool ..(watch out everyone!) As this is just recently, I haven't used probiotics. In which order should I do the things that you recommended ? Probiotics first or parallel with the antifungal ? How do I know if the treatment is successful or not ? Sorry for asking too many questions..I am horrified when read about the " die-off " reaction, especially when no dr can be consulted with. Appreciate any advice. thanks a lot, Tetty - Dubai > > > In a message dated 23/01/2006 11:38:55 GMT Standard Time, heradini@m... > writes: > > Can anybody share " a recipe " to treat yeast ? > > > > >>>Oh thats a lovely of putting it. Do you notice any symptoms physically, > sensory or in behaviour? > > I ask this because you can go too strong with the yeast treatments and > things swing the other way and so it goes on (been there, done that, I have many > T-shirts in a variety of different colours LOL) > > First and most important thing to do is to pull the sugar. Be careful not to > replace with Asparatme. > > Personally I would try Candex/Candigest next for 7-10 days and see what > reaction that brings. > > Do you use any probiotics? My favourites are CP1 which is 25 Billion (at > least) per cap of assorted strains and Kirkmans Sacc Bourlardii which is yeast - > but a bad yeast, eating yeast > > How old is your lad? Does he have bad poops or musty smelling wee? > > Mandi in Dorset > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I LOVE yeast aid.....after finally kicking yeast in the A$$ (Nyastatin & GSE-grapefruit seed extract) I use Yeast Aid & rotate probiotics (Pro Bio Gold & Culturella from Kirkmans www.kirkmanlabs.com are my favorites.) and have been yeast free for months now. I use Yeast Aid EVERYDAY...divide the 1 tsp through out the day...I just put it in his drinks PS My son is a sugar junkie and I haven't cut it out Lillian fldofdrms@... fjennings@... Yeast > Hi yet again > Annie has been on nystatin for around 4 months. Results haven't been so > good. We're just about there with cutting out sugar completely - only > crackers to go. Dr Heard has prescribed Diflucan. I was thinking more > of the natural route (read recent useful posts on this). Does anyone > use Yeast Aid? I would be prepared to use the Diflucan if I thought it > would work but I'm not so sure. Any views? > Also, is organic sugar just as bad as ordinary cane sugar. Just > remembered Annie gets one tiny organic cola bottle per day as > reinforcement in her ABA programme. Will this have to go too? > > Loraine > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical > advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably > qualified practitioner. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 In a message dated 1/25/06 6:42:08 PM Central Standard Time, fjennings@... writes: I use Yeast Aid & rotate probiotics (Pro Bio Gold & Culturella from Kirkmans www.kirkmanlabs.com are my favorites.) and have been yeast free for months now. Hi, How do you really tell when they are yeast free? I had my daughter on Nystatin for 2 months, I expected to see the black flecks in the stool everyone seems to mention. Never did though the stools did go from "airy" looking to a more regular brown, firm stool. Then, I ran out of the Nystatin and she missed 4 doses total. That day she was very talkative (she's already high functioning and verbal) pleasant, and said a new word "particular" which is a long one for her to say! I put her back on the Nystatin the next day and she seemed to go back into a state of I guess less "sharpness" and kind of a poor mood. So, I took her off Nystatin altogether and started her on Virastop 1/2 cap twice a day ( she has a high Epstien Barr Virus Titer-160), Virastop is by enzymedica-they also recommended Candidase but the Health food store was out. She was not on any other enzyme but has been on the Kirkman's Pro Bio Gold. This is 8 days later, she has had a big reduction in days where she has dark circles under her eyes and just looks healthier, but she still is somewhat more fatigued than I would like to see and I wonder if that's yeast or the virus. Also, she is usually constipated but more so than usual now. I wonder if the Kirkman Yeast Aid might be a good one to try? Her other things are MB12 injections, folinic acid, taurine, gaba, vitamin c, EFA's, virastop. She's almost 9. Cara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 About yeast---a friend of mine reports the following measures are helpful for yeast. she sent me the following info last year when i was trying to help another friend. ....................... Boric acid is helpful. get a bag of size '0' gelcaps from your local health food store, and a bottle of boric acid powder from your pharmacy. Total outlay perhaps $10. Fill the capsules with the powder. Insert one deep into the vagina once or twice daily as needed. It will make you very 'juicy' and the discharge is whitish from the white powder so you may want to wear pantiliners. I have chronic yeast infection problems so I've been using a capsule almost daily for a couple of years now. This was suggested to me by my old G.P., wish he had suggested it sooner before the many hundreds of $$ over the years in office visits and OTC and prescription meds that only worked temporarily. or boric acid can be mix up in a paste and inserted with the inserter you get with Monistat cream if you do not wan to put the powder in a gelatin capsule. source: http://mothernature.com/ency/Supp/Boric_Acid.asp What does it do? Boric acid is a chemical substance with mild antiseptic, particularly antifungal, properties.1 The most common use of boric acid is as a suppository inserted in the vagina to treat yeast infection. In one study of 100 women with chronic yeast vaginitis who were not successfully treated with any over-the-counter or prescription antifungal medicines, 98% of the women successfully treated their infections with boric acid capsules inserted into the vagina twice per day for two to four weeks.2 Where is it found? Boric acid is a white, odorless powder or crystalline substance that is utilized in some cosmetics as a topical antiseptic and in some manufacturing materials. In what conditions might boric acid be supportive? • yeast infection • vaginitis Who is likely to be deficient? Boric acid is not an essential nutrient, thus there are no deficiencies. How much should I take? Boric acid is available in powder form from a pharmacy without a prescription. This powder is packed tightly into empty gelatin capsules and used as a suppository. Some doctors of natural medicine recommend one such capsule to be inserted into the vagina each night for two weeks. Some health food stores have prepared suppositories of a combination of boric acid and herbs. Suppository boric acid capsules should not be used during pregnancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 > > Okay, > > I guess I turned people off by asking if you bloat with beer would you bloat > with KT. I haven't drank any alcohol for years and years due to liver > problems but, when I did I bloated. The same reaction when I eat yeasted > breads although, now I know the grains play a big factor. > > Why are the KT yeasts different than beer yeasts or bread yeasts? > I couldn't say for certain just what your particular trouble with the yeasts are, but it would seem that your problem is probably not with the yeasts. People sometimes get yeasts confused with the products they create. I may be wrong, but I believe the yeasts in KT are very similar to bread/beer yeasts. The main difference to think about is what we give them to eat. In the beer and breads the yeast have plenty of wheat gluten/barley malts and other carbohydrates to consume. In the kombucha brew, there aren't any carbs to break down, so you get different end products, which your body finds easier to handle. You can find out if my theory is correct by trying some unfiltered wine, as the yeasts are very similar to beer, yet there aren't the carbs that come with the bread/beer. If you know someone who home-brews, you can try some with live active yeasts in it. Enjoy your KT, and good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 > > Okay, > > I guess I turned people off by asking if you bloat with beer would you bloat > with KT. I haven't drank any alcohol for years and years due to liver > problems but, when I did I bloated. The same reaction when I eat yeasted > breads although, now I know the grains play a big factor. > > Why are the KT yeasts different than beer yeasts or bread yeasts? > I couldn't say for certain just what your particular trouble with the yeasts are, but it would seem that your problem is probably not with the yeasts. People sometimes get yeasts confused with the products they create. I may be wrong, but I believe the yeasts in KT are very similar to bread/beer yeasts. The main difference to think about is what we give them to eat. In the beer and breads the yeast have plenty of wheat gluten/barley malts and other carbohydrates to consume. In the kombucha brew, there aren't any carbs to break down, so you get different end products, which your body finds easier to handle. You can find out if my theory is correct by trying some unfiltered wine, as the yeasts are very similar to beer, yet there aren't the carbs that come with the bread/beer. If you know someone who home-brews, you can try some with live active yeasts in it. Enjoy your KT, and good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I can't answer some of your ???s but the yeast in bread is killed by baking, so it must be grains in bread. Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I can't answer some of your ???s but the yeast in bread is killed by baking, so it must be grains in bread. Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I think you're right about the bread and someone else wrote about the carbs (barley?) in beer so it must not be the yeast that bloats. Thanks, Nina Ps - can't hardly wait until I get my kit from Happy Herbalist and then having to wait until the tea brews..I'm spending a fortune buying GTs. From: kombucha tea [mailto:kombucha tea ] On Behalf Of Gayla Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:47 AM kombucha tea Subject: Re: yeast I can't answer some of your ???s but the yeast in bread is killed by baking, so it must be grains in bread. Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I think you're right about the bread and someone else wrote about the carbs (barley?) in beer so it must not be the yeast that bloats. Thanks, Nina Ps - can't hardly wait until I get my kit from Happy Herbalist and then having to wait until the tea brews..I'm spending a fortune buying GTs. From: kombucha tea [mailto:kombucha tea ] On Behalf Of Gayla Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:47 AM kombucha tea Subject: Re: yeast I can't answer some of your ???s but the yeast in bread is killed by baking, so it must be grains in bread. Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 typical yeasts used in ferments; Beer yeasts = Saccharomyces cerevesiae Bread yeasts = Saccharomyces cerevesiae KT yeasts = Pichia, Zygosaccharomyces Brettanomyces, Zygosaccharomyces (may be a sub-species of Saccharomyces cerevisiae) GT yeasts = Saccharomyces boulardii There are thousands of yeasts and hundreds of distinct strains, GT has higher rate of lactic acid as well as s.boulardii which appeasr to work better for you Peace Ed Kasper LAc. & family www.HappyHerbalist.com .......................................... yeast Posted by: " Nina Bozarth " nbozarth@... o_ravonelle Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:42 pm (PST) Okay, I guess I turned people off by asking if you bloat with beer would you bloat with KT. I haven't drank any alcohol for years and years due to liver problems but, when I did I bloated. The same reaction when I eat yeasted breads although, now I know the grains play a big factor. Why are the KT yeasts different than beer yeasts or bread yeasts? By the way, I have drank GTs (16 oz) for the last 8 days and have not bloated. Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 typical yeasts used in ferments; Beer yeasts = Saccharomyces cerevesiae Bread yeasts = Saccharomyces cerevesiae KT yeasts = Pichia, Zygosaccharomyces Brettanomyces, Zygosaccharomyces (may be a sub-species of Saccharomyces cerevisiae) GT yeasts = Saccharomyces boulardii There are thousands of yeasts and hundreds of distinct strains, GT has higher rate of lactic acid as well as s.boulardii which appeasr to work better for you Peace Ed Kasper LAc. & family www.HappyHerbalist.com .......................................... yeast Posted by: " Nina Bozarth " nbozarth@... o_ravonelle Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:42 pm (PST) Okay, I guess I turned people off by asking if you bloat with beer would you bloat with KT. I haven't drank any alcohol for years and years due to liver problems but, when I did I bloated. The same reaction when I eat yeasted breads although, now I know the grains play a big factor. Why are the KT yeasts different than beer yeasts or bread yeasts? By the way, I have drank GTs (16 oz) for the last 8 days and have not bloated. Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Hi Rob n Kate Candex which are enzymes specifically for degrading yeast is really good. Its given on an empty stomach so we give on opening eyes in the morning, then give probios after that. You can also give in the evening but we only do once a day just because I we are really lazy!! Colloidal silver is good for infections and we use that occasionally just a course for a week. Saccharomyces boulardii is a friendly yeast which is a good probiotic. Its possible to use that twice a day with your other probios and you can go up to fairly high numbers for a short sharp course too. Other people use oil of oregano and some other antifungals. Good Luck and ask away, thats what its all about. Luv caroline xx > Sorry everyone to keep posting - we are quite new to this and going through a bad patch. Sara mentioned people might have a view on how to beat yeast. As I said, this is what we are currently doing: > > SCD, GFCF and yeast free diet > Biomed has him on probiotic, charcoal, transfer factor, biotin, DMG, Biocidin, milk thistle, riboflavin, Vitamin E and fish oil as well as Diflucan for the yeast > > What else do people suggest? > > thanks > > Kate and rob > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 hi kate glutamine to heal the gut aloe vera juice candex cp1 saccrymes boulardii isobel > > Sorry everyone to keep posting - we are quite new to this and going through a bad patch. Sara mentioned people might have a view on how to beat yeast. As I said, this is what we are currently doing: > > SCD, GFCF and yeast free diet > Biomed has him on probiotic, charcoal, transfer factor, biotin, DMG, Biocidin, milk thistle, riboflavin, Vitamin E and fish oil as well as Diflucan for the yeast > > What else do people suggest? > > thanks > > Kate and rob > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I recently gave some grains to a friend. After a few days I got a report that his kefir was growing yeast. I haven't had an opportunity to talk to him about it yet. I am new to Kefiring, so I wonder have any of you had a yeast issue? Thanks ..... Theda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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