Re: How long does Kefir keep in the fridge?

[Guest guest]

I would like to know the answer to this too. I would also like to know how long

it can sit out at room temperature and still be good.

Thanks,

Al

How long does Kefir keep in the fridge?

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>How long does Kefir keep in the fridge? I have some jars that are 2 weeks old

and look and smell fine.

>

>Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

I've had some in the frig for months and it will get fizzy but does not go bad.

Dom has a reference on his site where he covered the top of kefir in olive oil

and left it at room temperature for a year and it was still good. I think it

would be very safe to say that kefired milk has extreme longevity. And, I hear

you will, too, if you drink it regularly.

Roy

TX Chapter Chair

National Coalition for Public School Options

www.publicschooloptions.org/texas

817-909-0741

On Nov 6, 2011, at 9:50 PM, ouched63188@... wrote:

> I would like to know the answer to this too. I would also like to know how

long it can sit out at room temperature and still be good.

>

> Thanks,

> Al

>

> How long does Kefir keep in the fridge?

> >

> >How long does Kefir keep in the fridge? I have some jars that are 2 weeks old

and look and smell fine.

> >

> >Thanks,

> >Jodie~

> >NE Texas.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Keifer in olive oil?

Al

Re: How long does Kefir keep in the fridge?

>

>I've had some in the frig for months and it will get fizzy but does not go bad.

Dom has a reference on his site where he covered the top of kefir in olive oil

and left it at room temperature for a year and it was still good. I think it

would be very safe to say that kefired milk has extreme longevity. And, I hear

you will, too, if you drink it regularly.

>

> Roy

>TX Chapter Chair

>National Coalition for Public School Options

>www.publicschooloptions.org/texas

>817-909-0741

>

[Guest guest]

The thin layer of olive oil film on top protects it from oxygen. May old

fashioned naturally fermented recipes, like fermented tomato sauce, call

for storing them with a thin layer of olive oil over them, and then storing

at cool celler type temps, and then caping the bottle/jar. Although, yes,

olive oil will oxidize, but no unfriendly bacteria will penetrate to what's

below, this is nice in that it prevents having to pasteurize and

heat/pressure can the contents.

Leo

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:12 AM, <ouched63188@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> Keifer in olive oil?

>

> Al

>

> Re: How long does Kefir keep in the fridge?

> >

> >I've had some in the frig for months and it will get fizzy but does not

> go bad. Dom has a reference on his site where he covered the top of kefir

> in olive oil and left it at room temperature for a year and it was still

> good. I think it would be very safe to say that kefired milk has extreme

> longevity. And, I hear you will, too, if you drink it regularly.

> >

> > Roy

> >TX Chapter Chair

> >National Coalition for Public School Options

> >www.publicschooloptions.org/texas

> >817-909-0741

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

No, not Kefir in olive oil. He cover the top of the Kefir with olive oil.

On Nov 7, 2011 12:25 PM, <ouched63188@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> Keifer in olive oil?

>

> Al

>

> Re: How long does Kefir keep in the fridge?

> >

> >I've had some in the frig for months and it will get fizzy but does not

> go bad. Dom has a reference on his site where he covered the top of kefir

> in olive oil and left it at room temperature for a year and it was still

> good. I think it would be very safe to say that kefired milk has extreme

> longevity. And, I hear you will, too, if you drink it regularly.

> >

> > Roy

> >TX Chapter Chair

> >National Coalition for Public School Options

> >www.publicschooloptions.org/texas

> >817-909-0741

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

So I am guessing you can store it on the counter for longer periods with

the thin layer of olive oil? Because sometimes I will not need any for

three days but I have to pour a little layer of milk on top to try to

preserve it until I need it again. Then I have to keep rinsing it in milk

because it gets that thick crusty yeast layer on top and takes a few days

to revive when I want to start making it again.

Sheree in Georgia

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Roy <curlyw2kids@...> wrote:

> No, not Kefir in olive oil. He cover the top of the Kefir with olive oil.

>

>

> On Nov 7, 2011 12:25 PM, <ouched63188@...> wrote:

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > Keifer in olive oil?

> >

> > Al

> >

> > Re: How long does Kefir keep in the fridge?

> > >

> > >I've had some in the frig for months and it will get fizzy but does not

> > go bad. Dom has a reference on his site where he covered the top of kefir

> > in olive oil and left it at room temperature for a year and it was still

> > good. I think it would be very safe to say that kefired milk has extreme

> > longevity. And, I hear you will, too, if you drink it regularly.

> > >

> > > Roy

> > >TX Chapter Chair

> > >National Coalition for Public School Options

> > >www.publicschooloptions.org/texas

> > >817-909-0741

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What? are you talking about the grains, or the kefir? I don't think anyone

is talking about putting the olive or other oil on top of the grains, just

the finished kefir. ie, I have made a half gallon and am going out of town

for two weeks, thin film and put in fridge. Put the grains in a cup of milk

and fridge too. Revive when back. Why would you leave it out at room temp

on purpose for that long? Just asking...

Leo

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:27 PM, SGossling <gagoose@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> So I am guessing you can store it on the counter for longer periods with

> the thin layer of olive oil? Because sometimes I will not need any for

> three days but I have to pour a little layer of milk on top to try to

> preserve it until I need it again. Then I have to keep rinsing it in milk

> because it gets that thick crusty yeast layer on top and takes a few days

> to revive when I want to start making it again.

>

> Sheree in Georgia

>

>

> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Roy <curlyw2kids@...>

> wrote:

>

> > No, not Kefir in olive oil. He cover the top of the Kefir with olive oil.

> >

> >

> > On Nov 7, 2011 12:25 PM, <ouched63188@...> wrote:

> >

> > > **

> > >

> > >

> > > Keifer in olive oil?

> > >

> > > Al

> > >

> > > Re: How long does Kefir keep in the

> fridge?

> > > >

> > > >I've had some in the frig for months and it will get fizzy but does

> not

> > > go bad. Dom has a reference on his site where he covered the top of

> kefir

> > > in olive oil and left it at room temperature for a year and it was

> still

> > > good. I think it would be very safe to say that kefired milk has

> extreme

> > > longevity. And, I hear you will, too, if you drink it regularly.

> > > >

> > > > Roy

> > > >TX Chapter Chair

> > > >National Coalition for Public School Options

> > > >www.publicschooloptions.org/texas

> > > >817-909-0741

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Oh - I hope I didn't confuse you. Are you referring to grains or finished

kefir? You can store grains in milk on your counter for up to two weeks without

a milk change. Some people put them in the fridge, however, I do not do that

and don't recommend it.

Roy

TX Chapter Chair

National Coalition for Public School Options

www.publicschooloptions.org/texas

817-909-0741

On Nov 7, 2011, at 4:27 PM, SGossling wrote:

> So I am guessing you can store it on the counter for longer periods with

> the thin layer of olive oil? Because sometimes I will not need any for

> three days but I have to pour a little layer of milk on top to try to

> preserve it until I need it again. Then I have to keep rinsing it in milk

> because it gets that thick crusty yeast layer on top and takes a few days

> to revive when I want to start making it again.

>

> Sheree in Georgia

>

> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Roy <curlyw2kids@...> wrote:

>

> > No, not Kefir in olive oil. He cover the top of the Kefir with olive oil.

> >

> >

> > On Nov 7, 2011 12:25 PM, <ouched63188@...> wrote:

> >

> > > **

> > >

> > >

> > > Keifer in olive oil?

> > >

> > > Al

> > >

> > > Re: How long does Kefir keep in the fridge?

> > > >

> > > >I've had some in the frig for months and it will get fizzy but does not

> > > go bad. Dom has a reference on his site where he covered the top of kefir

> > > in olive oil and left it at room temperature for a year and it was still

> > > good. I think it would be very safe to say that kefired milk has extreme

> > > longevity. And, I hear you will, too, if you drink it regularly.

> > > >

> > > > Roy

> > > >TX Chapter Chair

> > > >National Coalition for Public School Options

> > > >www.publicschooloptions.org/texas

> > > >817-909-0741

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

So you just put your completed milk kefir in a mason jar and pour a little olive

oil on top and then store it in a cool dark place? The olive oil will oxidize

but not contaminate the kefir as you are pouring it out? Does it change the

taste of the kefir?

Al

Re: How long does Kefir keep in the fridge?

>> >

>> >I've had some in the frig for months and it will get fizzy but does not

>> go bad. Dom has a reference on his site where he covered the top of kefir

>> in olive oil and left it at room temperature for a year and it was still

>> good. I think it would be very safe to say that kefired milk has extreme

>> longevity. And, I hear you will, too, if you drink it regularly.

>> >

>> > Roy

>> >TX Chapter Chair

>> >National Coalition for Public School Options

>> >www.publicschooloptions.org/texas

>> >817-909-0741

>> >

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Roy <curlyw2kids@...> wrote:

> Oh - I hope I didn't confuse you. Are you referring to grains or finished

> kefir? You can store grains in milk on your counter for up to two weeks

> without a milk change. Some people put them in the fridge, however, I do

> not do that and don't recommend it.

>

> Roy

> TX Chapter Chair

> National Coalition for Public School Options

> www.publicschooloptions.org/texas

> 817-909-0741

>

>

> On Nov 7, 2011, at 4:27 PM, SGossling wrote:

>

> > So I am guessing you can store it on the counter for longer periods with

> > the thin layer of olive oil? Because sometimes I will not need any for

> > three days but I have to pour a little layer of milk on top to try to

> > preserve it until I need it again. Then I have to keep rinsing it in milk

> > because it gets that thick crusty yeast layer on top and takes a few days

> > to revive when I want to start making it again.

> >

> > Sheree in Georgia

> >

> > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Roy <curlyw2kids@...>

> wrote:

> >

> > > No, not Kefir in olive oil. He cover the top of the Kefir with olive

> oil.

> > >

> > >

> > > On Nov 7, 2011 12:25 PM, <ouched63188@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > **

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Keifer in olive oil?

> > > >

> > > > Al

> > > >

> > > > Re: How long does Kefir keep in the

> fridge?

> > > > >

> > > > >I've had some in the frig for months and it will get fizzy but does

> not

> > > > go bad. Dom has a reference on his site where he covered the top of

> kefir

> > > > in olive oil and left it at room temperature for a year and it was

> still

> > > > good. I think it would be very safe to say that kefired milk has

> extreme

> > > > longevity. And, I hear you will, too, if you drink it regularly.

> > > > >

> > > > > Roy

> > > > >TX Chapter Chair

> > > > >National Coalition for Public School Options

> > > > >www.publicschooloptions.org/texas

> > > > >817-909-0741

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

FWIW, I would much rather keep kefir grains in milk in the refrigerator for

2 weeks than on the countertop. I've had pink mold grow on my grains kept

at room temp (and it was less than 2 weeks), but that never happened in the

fridge and I've kept them there for over a month. Two weeks on the

countertop without a change of milk sounds mighty risky.

Dean

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From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of SGossling

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 8:44 PM

Subject: Re: How long does Kefir keep in the fridge?

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Roy <curlyw2kids@...

<mailto:curlyw2kids%40gmail.com> > wrote:

> Oh - I hope I didn't confuse you. Are you referring to grains or finished

> kefir? You can store grains in milk on your counter for up to two weeks

> without a milk change. Some people put them in the fridge, however, I do

> not do that and don't recommend it.

>

> Roy

> TX Chapter Chair

> National Coalition for Public School Options

> www.publicschooloptions.org/texas

> 817-909-0741

>

>

> On Nov 7, 2011, at 4:27 PM, SGossling wrote:

>

> > So I am guessing you can store it on the counter for longer periods with

> > the thin layer of olive oil? Because sometimes I will not need any for

> > three days but I have to pour a little layer of milk on top to try to

> > preserve it until I need it again. Then I have to keep rinsing it in

milk

> > because it gets that thick crusty yeast layer on top and takes a few

days

> > to revive when I want to start making it again.

> >

> > Sheree in Georgia

> >

> > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Roy <curlyw2kids@...

<mailto:curlyw2kids%40gmail.com> >

> wrote:

> >

> > > No, not Kefir in olive oil. He cover the top of the Kefir with olive

> oil.

> > >

> > >

> > > On Nov 7, 2011 12:25 PM, <ouched63188@...

<mailto:ouched63188%40mypacks.net> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > **

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Keifer in olive oil?

> > > >

> > > > Al

> > > >

> > > > Re: How long does Kefir keep in the

> fridge?

> > > > >

> > > > >I've had some in the frig for months and it will get fizzy but does

> not

> > > > go bad. Dom has a reference on his site where he covered the top of

> kefir

> > > > in olive oil and left it at room temperature for a year and it was

> still

> > > > good. I think it would be very safe to say that kefired milk has

> extreme

> > > > longevity. And, I hear you will, too, if you drink it regularly.

> > > > >

> > > > > Roy

> > > > >TX Chapter Chair

> > > > >National Coalition for Public School Options

> > > > >www.publicschooloptions.org/texas

> > > > >817-909-0741

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Roy

TX Chapter Chair

National Coalition for Public School Options

www.publicschooloptions.org/texas

817-909-0741

Dean,

I can totally appreciate your concern, it's quite common in our society.

However, I don't find it to be a problem. I simply remove whatever is on the

top and have VERY happy grains. When I did refrigerate my grains on occasion

they died - so you can preserve your grains however you feel would be better

On Nov 7, 2011, at 8:57 PM, Dean wrote:

> FWIW, I would much rather keep kefir grains in milk in the refrigerator for

> 2 weeks than on the countertop. I've had pink mold grow on my grains kept

> at room temp (and it was less than 2 weeks), but that never happened in the

> fridge and I've kept them there for over a month. Two weeks on the

> countertop without a change of milk sounds mighty risky.

>

> Dean

>

> _____

>

[Guest guest]

I too have followed the countertop storage for long periods of time

....(months actually) & it keeps better than in refrig where it

eventually makes them weaker as both DOM and Marilyn have warned ..it

changes the bacteria/yeast balance after awhile. On the countertop, it

gets more acidic (sour) but it " keeps " ..(Not in plastic though where it

picks up acetone flavor). Joyce Simmerman

[Guest guest]

My $0.02:

For milk kefir grain short-term storage (up to 3 weeks) I love using the

refrigerator. The trick is to give them PLENTY of milk - a large bowl is

fine for 2-3 weeks. I noticed that the grains will keep fermenting in

the fridge, only slower, and barely lose their balance until they ran

out of milk sugars to consume. I can easily store kefir grains for 3

weeks that way, and they will come back fully active and balanced after

just 2 batches.

If I go away from home for more than 3 weeks I just take the grains with

me and make small batches when traveling. I like to believe that the

grains actually get better when exposed to various milks. I got my

grains from lin in 2007, and since then they have eaten lightly

pasteurized whole cow milks from France, Germany, various US states and

got better than ever when going home.

t

On 11/8/2011 19:59, Joyce M. Simmerman wrote:

>

> I too have followed the countertop storage for long periods of time

> ...(months actually) & it keeps better than in refrig where it

> eventually makes them weaker as both DOM and Marilyn have warned ..it

> changes the bacteria/yeast balance after awhile. On the countertop, it

> gets more acidic (sour) but it " keeps " ..(Not in plastic though where it

> picks up acetone flavor). Joyce Simmerman

>

>