gout

[Guest guest]

Dear Jeff,

I have heard that Black Cherry Concentrate is a great aid for gout and

causes the body to alkalize rapidly. You have to get a pure brand from a

health food store with no sugar or additives. Natural Source is the one I

have used.... I have also read that phenylalanine (don't know if I spelled

that right) in D and L form together works to fight depression and pain. I

am going to start taking that for my hands to see if it will help.

KAT

Gout

Dear List, I'm looking for remedies for gout. Things to do once it has

set in. I have advised the patient to work on a more alkaline diet

(not the Mickey Lolich) as a long term aid. Corrections welcome on

that point. Any suggestions for immediate pain relief? Thanks, Jeff

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Dear Jeff,

From my book, The Owner's Manual for the Human Body :

Gout

Gout is a form of arthritis, caused by a buildup of uric acid in the

bloodstream. Uric acid is a waste product produced during the breakdown of

foods containing purine. Normally, uric acid is eliminated quickly through

two channels : 1/3 passes through the intestines where it is deactivated by

bacteria living there; 2/3 is excreted in the urine. Either too much uric

acid is being produced or the body is unable to excrete normal amounts. The

result is an accumulation in the bloodstream. The excess acid combines with

salt and forms crystals which are then deposited in the joints, the kidneys

or the ear cartilage. These sodium urate crystals can erode and destroy any

joint, causing inflammation, swelling and pain. Crystals in the kidneys join

together and form kidney stones. Crystals in the ear form painful, draining

nodules called tophi. Gout can also express as carpal tunnel syndrome and

trigger finger. Gout sufferers also experience a higher frequency of

diabetes and atherosclerosis.

Conventional medicines, especially diuretics, usually make the problem

worse.

Cleansing :

· Parasite cleanse

· Kidney cleanse

· Liver cleanse

· Colon cleanse and coffee enemas

· Homozon

· Castor oil packs

· Ozone : bagging a foot; drinking water; ear insufflation; cupping w/

funnel

Nutrition :

· Drink 2 - 3 quarts of water daily. Dehydration aggravates gout.

· Flax oil

· Eat cherries and drink cherry juice (canned OK, if sugar free)

· Blue-green algae, spirulina, chlorella

· Betaine hydrochloride

· Digestive enzymes; ox bile tablets

· Acidophilus and bifidus

Avoid :

· Sugar

· Red meat; liver ; kidney; brains

· Sardines; anchovies; herring

· Coffee and colas (caffeine is broken down into uric acid)

· Alcohol, which interferes with excretion of uric acid

· Aspirin and pharmaceutical diuretics

· Excessive salt intake

· Chilling of the gouty joint

· Carrying excess weight

Vitamins :

· Vitamin B1

· Vitamin B5

· Vitamin C : 2000 x3/day

· Vitamin E : 800 IU/ day

Supplements :

· DMSO topically

· Coenzyme Q10

Natural Diuretics :

· Vitamin B6

· Vitamin C with bioflavinoids

· Magnesium

· Silica

· Water melon

Herbs :

· Juniper berries

· Cranberry

· Burdock

· Comfrey

· Horseradish

· Nettle

· Sarsaparilla

· Willow

Exercise :

· Tai Chi

· long walks in the park

· swimming

· rebounder

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

URL: http://www.plasmafire.com

email: saul@...

" The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created

them " . - Einstein

Gout

> Dear List, I'm looking for remedies for gout. Things to do once it has

> set in. I have advised the patient to work on a more alkaline diet

> (not the Mickey Lolich) as a long term aid. Corrections welcome on

> that point. Any suggestions for immediate pain relief? Thanks, Jeff

>

>

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

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[Guest guest]

Drugs for gout treatment (from Life extension, Pearson and Shaw):

Colchicine, phenylbutazone, and sulfinpryazole (Anturane TM)

Anturane works by increasing the kidneys excretion of urate, and has the

added benefit of increasing the survival rate of patients who have a Second

and subsequent heart attack.

Allopurinal (Zyloprim TM) works on some people.

Try a search on www./group/SymphonicHealth ..it has details

including the following:

I can tell you that you may need supplements of calcium, Magnesium, D2.

CAL-MAG in a 1:1 ratio is preferred. You must bind your calcium to the

uric acid in order to excrete it. Normally the CAL comes from your food or

your bones. Avoid the second scenario as you'll be flushing a lot of urea.

Joint supplements will likely help the pain symptom.

About the magnets, did they reduce swelling at all? They should in 76% to

82% of cases.

The following is from www.Lef.org:

[Gout is a genetically related disease, manifested as elevated levels of

uric acid in the blood (hyperuricemia), sither from increased production or

reduced excretion. Excess uric acid is converted to sodium urate crystals

that may precipitate from the blood and be deposited in the joints and other

tissues. Alcohol, obesity, and a diet rich in organ meats (containing

purines) are precipitating factors. All organ meats, sardines, herring, fish

roe, and anchovies should be avoided. Weight and triglyceride levels should

be reduced, but dietary modification be moderate so that ketosis, with

concurrent fall in urate excretion, is not induced. Currently, this disease

is highly controllable by use of medication. -- Tom ]

<snip>Uric acid can be controlled by black cherry juice extract (or by

drinking or eating lots and lots of black cherries.) There are many other

herbs that act to excrete uric acid: juniper berries comes to mind. When I

was returning to eating meat I researched this problem and found that many

many herbs help to resolve the buildup. </snip>

[it may exist, but I can't find any evidence for these claims. -- Tom ]

<snip>My father currently has Arthritis and Gout and is taking Indocin when

necessary. I've read that these types of prescription drug can have

potential damaging side effects. My father has an okay diet. Currently he

takes 1500mg Glocosamine and 1200mg Chondroitin Sulfide per day. He also

drinks the Green drink called Green that is similiar to your Herbal Mix.

This seem to help his Gout, but his Arthritis pain still persist. </snip>

ciao

Duncan

[Guest guest]

Saul-

You made a comment that uric acid is formed from foods containing

purine.

What foods contain purine? Thanks AGAIN!!! for your help and advice.

I Bless You and Bless You for the Goodness of God Which is at Work

Within You,

Zell

[Guest guest]

At 09:20 AM 1/27/02 +0000, you wrote:

>Anyone have a home remedy or help for gout?

this is the one time that we will use either Wintergreen or Birch (betula

alba) essential oil...for the acute, agonizing pain. I use a base of St.

s Wort infused oil, with Wintergreen added...apply where it

hurts. It's the ONLY thing I've found that helps my partner when the gout

attacks.

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[Guest guest]

What's gout? I have seen old movies with people sitting in chairs (usually

thrones) with leg elevated and in apparent pain, but the movies were never

specific about what was wrong. I sort of thing of gout as something only

kings get.

Sage

[Guest guest]

Listees,

I have a patient with gout of the right foot. Besides green tea, cherry

or cranberry extract, and adustments, what else would you advise for this

patient. The current prescription, I believe she said " colchicine " , has

NASTY side-effects. Thanks.

J. Holzapfel, D.C.

Albany, OR.

kjholzdc@...

http://docman.chiroweb.com

[Guest guest]

Hey ,

From Pizzorno and Murray...

Weight reduction, but not via high protein diet. Standard 0.8g/kg

protein/bodyweight is OK.

Reduce/eliminate simple carbs. " Refined carbs increase uric acid production,

saturated fat increases retention of uric acid. "

No alcohol. May be all that is needed in many.

Low-purine diet...these foods are high-moderate purine foods: organ meats,

meats, shellfish, yeast, herring, sardines, mackeral (don't know about fish

oil, I'd choose flax), anchovies, dried beans, spinach, asparagus, poultry,

mushrooms.

Drink lots 'o water.

Take home...if your pt is overweight, Atkins-dieting, knocking back the red

wine for the antioxidants and resveratrol, and having a few cups of coffee

(read diuretics), then he's doing okay according to many, but he's going to

have gout sx. More water, different diet, more exercise, less alcohol.

Sounds familiar doesn't it?

>From: KEVIN J HOLZAPFEL DC <kjholzdc@...>

>

>Subject: RE: Gout

>Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:37:06 -0700

>

>Listees,

>I have a patient with gout of the right foot. Besides green tea, cherry

>or cranberry extract, and adustments, what else would you advise for this

>patient. The current prescription, I believe she said " colchicine " , has

>NASTY side-effects. Thanks.

>

> J. Holzapfel, D.C.

>Albany, OR.

>kjholzdc@...

>http://docman.chiroweb.com

W. Snell, D.C.

127-G NE 102nd Avenue

Portland, OR 97220

Ph. 503-253-0827

Fax 503-253-4760

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

She already knows she is consuming more (animal) protein than her body can

process...begin shifting her from the animal forms into the less dense plant

forms. And teach her the dairy link ... all part of the protein component

with the IGF-1 trigger. Introduce her to the www.notmilk.com website and

let her learn on her own. Add the liquid minerals as well ... excellent

adrenal support along with providing a greater ability to process the

heavier proteins. Good levels of vitamin C ... I would encourage her to up

it to 5000 mg/day together with 100 mg of B-complex and an additional 100 mg

of B6. Carrot juice once to thrice/week would round out the metabolism

nicely.

Hope this helps. Sunny ;'-)))

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC

Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon

59 Santa Clara St.,

Eugene, Oregon, 97404

541-689-0935

RE: Gout

> Listees,

> I have a patient with gout of the right foot. Besides green tea, cherry

> or cranberry extract, and adustments, what else would you advise for this

> patient. The current prescription, I believe she said " colchicine " , has

> NASTY side-effects. Thanks.

>

> J. Holzapfel, D.C.

> Albany, OR.

> kjholzdc@...

> http://docman.chiroweb.com

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Thanks for all that info about the water cure and for suggestions on how

to wrap my gouty knees and shoulders. I wonder how long they would have

to be wrapped to be effective. LOve. MArge.

[Guest guest]

Gout is a result of long time acidic pH levels.

The uric acid crystalization problem is part of the ACID problem in general.

Dense proteins such as red meat leave acidic conditions as do refined sugars

or starches.

It's not so much the fats as the proteins and starches that cause this.

Fresh, live, raw fruits and veggies will, over time, alleviate the condition

and the gout will fade. If you crave red meat, simply use very small

portions and jazz them up with lots of raw veggies. Moderation and balance

will work if you stick to it. And drink your KT, because it accelerates the

restoration process.

Here's a page I compiled a few years ago showing acid and alkaline foods.

It's on a previous server and may be deleted at any time so, if has

information you want to save, download it to your hard drive.

http://pacificcoast.net/~rustym/articles/PH.html

rusty

Re: Gout

>

> Dear ,

>

> Thanks for all that info about the water cure and for suggestions on how

> to wrap my gouty knees and shoulders. I wonder how long they would have

> to be wrapped to be effective. LOve. MArge.

[Guest guest]

Hi Rusty, many thanks for the page on acid and alkaline foods. I eat very little

meat and don'd drink beer, I just have about half a glass of red wine now and

then, maybe twice a month. However, I eat lots of pasta, I love it. Maybe that's

the source of my problem. I'll try to adjutst my diet.

Thanks again,

Terry from Argentina

Re: Gout

>

> Dear ,

>

> Thanks for all that info about the water cure and for suggestions on how

> to wrap my gouty knees and shoulders. I wonder how long they would have

> to be wrapped to be effective. LOve. MArge.

[Guest guest]

I had always understood that RAPID weight loss could trigger a gout attack; and therefore I always recommended slow weight loss as a treatment for gout. This patient could have a painful post-op course.

Roxanne Bijold, RD, LD

gout

I have a patient seeking gastric bypass who reports a history of getting gout every time he attempts weight loss. In the past when he gets gout he has always stopped dieting. He started some preoperative weight loss and again reports gout. This time he went to his PCP and got medication for gout. I know that gout is a comorbid condition for obesity but I understood weight loss helps gout not induces it. Anyone else have experience with this? Did you have to do anything special to manage gout post op? I saw the March 2005 Obesity Surgery abstract showing 2 patients with gout attacks post op but am not finding anything else about gout associated with weight loss. Just want to make sure there isn't anything we should look at pre-op or anything we should add to post op management.Thanks,Diane Olson MS, RD, CDEUW Health Bariatric ProgramUniversity of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinicsdl.olson@...

[Guest guest]

It has been my experience that excessive protein can contribute to gout. Along with the Indomyocin (or other anti-inflammatory), the patient should use a balanced diet for weight loss that meets the RDA for protein (~60 grams) and distributes the remainder of calories between carbohydrate and fat. There is also some thought that decreasing aged and processed foods, and red meat could be beneficial. Gout is extremely painful and it is also likely that your patient would have limited mobility during severe outbreaks.

Jeanne Blankenship, MS RD

-------------- Original message from "dlolsonbar" <dl.olson@...>: -------------- I have a patient seeking gastric bypass who reports a history of getting gout every time he attempts weight loss. In the past when he gets gout he has always stopped dieting. He started some preoperative weight loss and again reports gout. This time he went to his PCP and got medication for gout. I know that gout is a comorbid condition for obesity but I understood weight loss helps gout not induces it. Anyone else have experience with this? Did you have to do anything special to manage gout post op? I saw the March 2005 Obesity Surgery abstract showing 2 patients with gout attacks post op but am not finding anything else about gout associated with weight loss. Just want to make sure there isn't anything we should look at pre-op or anything we should add to post op management.Thanks,Diane Olson MS, RD, CDEUW Health Bariatric ProgramUniversity of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinicsdl.olson@...

[Guest guest]

Also make sure they are getting plenty of fluids. My pts w/ gout have told me that they found more relief from increasing fluid intake than restricting protein, although that is one of the documented causes.

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of jbship@...Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 3:57 PM Subject: Re: gout

It has been my experience that excessive protein can contribute to gout. Along with the Indomyocin (or other anti-inflammatory), the patient should use a balanced diet for weight loss that meets the RDA for protein (~60 grams) and distributes the remainder of calories between carbohydrate and fat. There is also some thought that decreasing aged and processed foods, and red meat could be beneficial. Gout is extremely painful and it is also likely that your patient would have limited mobility during severe outbreaks.

Jeanne Blankenship, MS RD

-------------- Original message from "dlolsonbar" <dl.olson@...>: -------------- I have a patient seeking gastric bypass who reports a history of getting gout every time he attempts weight loss. In the past when he gets gout he has always stopped dieting. He started some preoperative weight loss and again reports gout. This time he went to his PCP and got medication for gout. I know that gout is a comorbid condition for obesity but I understood weight loss helps gout not induces it. Anyone else have experience with this? Did you have to do anything special to manage gout post op? I saw the March 2005 Obesity Surgery abstract showing 2 patients with gout attacks post op but am not finding anything else about gout associated with weight loss. Just want to make sure there isn't anything we should look at pre-op or anything we should add to post op management.Thanks,Diane Olson MS, RD, CDEUW Health Bariatric ProgramUniversity of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinicsdl.olson@...

[Guest guest]

One thought I have is to really stress how important fluids are in regard to gout and maybe less emphasis on the protein. He might be a better candidate for a band so that he will lose more slowly and safely.

gout

I have a patient seeking gastric bypass who reports a history of getting gout every time he attempts weight loss. In the past when he gets gout he has always stopped dieting. He started some preoperative weight loss and again reports gout. This time he went to his PCP and got medication for gout. I know that gout is a comorbid condition for obesity but I understood weight loss helps gout not induces it. Anyone else have experience with this? Did you have to do anything special to manage gout post op? I saw the March 2005 Obesity Surgery abstract showing 2 patients with gout attacks post op but am not finding anything else about gout associated with weight loss. Just want to make sure there isn't anything we should look at pre-op or anything we should add to post op management.Thanks,Diane Olson MS, RD, CDEUW Health Bariatric ProgramUniversity of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinicsdl.olson@...

[Guest guest]

I agree. I have seen this to be the case many times.

RE: gout

Also make sure they are getting plenty of fluids. My pts w/ gout have told me that they found more relief from increasing fluid intake than restricting protein, although that is one of the documented causes.

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of jbship@...Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 3:57 PM Subject: Re: gout

It has been my experience that excessive protein can contribute to gout. Along with the Indomyocin (or other anti-inflammatory), the patient should use a balanced diet for weight loss that meets the RDA for protein (~60 grams) and distributes the remainder of calories between carbohydrate and fat. There is also some thought that decreasing aged and processed foods, and red meat could be beneficial. Gout is extremely painful and it is also likely that your patient would have limited mobility during severe outbreaks.

Jeanne Blankenship, MS RD

-------------- Original message from "dlolsonbar" <dl.olson@...>: -------------- I have a patient seeking gastric bypass who reports a history of getting gout every time he attempts weight loss. In the past when he gets gout he has always stopped dieting. He started some preoperative weight loss and again reports gout. This time he went to his PCP and got medication for gout. I know that gout is a comorbid condition for obesity but I understood weight loss helps gout not induces it. Anyone else have experience with this? Did you have to do anything special to manage gout post op? I saw the March 2005 Obesity Surgery abstract showing 2 patients with gout attacks post op but am not finding anything else about gout associated with weight loss. Just want to make sure there isn't anything we should look at pre-op or anything we should add to post op management.Thanks,Diane Olson MS, RD, CDEUW Health Bariatric ProgramUniversity of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinicsdl.olson@...

[Guest guest]

A Lap-band pt here complained of a swollen knee 2 days post-op and thought that it somehow got twisted during transfer at the hospital. Turns out it was gout. He has no hx of gout but both parents do. So don't rule out the possibility of gout with Lap-band patients. An unexpected twist. He said the surgery was a breeze compared to his knee pain!

gout

I have a patient seeking gastric bypass who reports a history of getting gout every time he attempts weight loss. In the past when he gets gout he has always stopped dieting. He started some preoperative weight loss and again reports gout. This time he went to his PCP and got medication for gout. I know that gout is a comorbid condition for obesity but I understood weight loss helps gout not induces it. Anyone else have experience with this? Did you have to do anything special to manage gout post op? I saw the March 2005 Obesity Surgery abstract showing 2 patients with gout attacks post op but am not finding anything else about gout associated with weight loss. Just want to make sure there isn't anything we should look at pre-op or anything we should add to post op management.Thanks,Diane Olson MS, RD, CDEUW Health Bariatric ProgramUniversity of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinicsdl.olson@...

[Guest guest]

Two days post-op? I find it hard to believe that is related to the band. Maybe to surgery itself, although I'm not sure how. Think about it. The course would have been the same for many other procedures.

gout

I have a patient seeking gastric bypass who reports a history of getting gout every time he attempts weight loss. In the past when he gets gout he has always stopped dieting. He started some preoperative weight loss and again reports gout. This time he went to his PCP and got medication for gout. I know that gout is a comorbid condition for obesity but I understood weight loss helps gout not induces it. Anyone else have experience with this? Did you have to do anything special to manage gout post op? I saw the March 2005 Obesity Surgery abstract showing 2 patients with gout attacks post op but am not finding anything else about gout associated with weight loss. Just want to make sure there isn't anything we should look at pre-op or anything we should add to post op management.Thanks,Diane Olson MS, RD, CDEUW Health Bariatric ProgramUniversity of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinicsdl.olson@...

[Guest guest]

I agree that the course would have been the same for other procedures and the surgery or low intake post-op most likely accelerated the development of the disease. Just wanted to share a case of banding and gout-it does happen, whatever the cause.

gout

I have a patient seeking gastric bypass who reports a history of getting gout every time he attempts weight loss. In the past when he gets gout he has always stopped dieting. He started some preoperative weight loss and again reports gout. This time he went to his PCP and got medication for gout. I know that gout is a comorbid condition for obesity but I understood weight loss helps gout not induces it. Anyone else have experience with this? Did you have to do anything special to manage gout post op? I saw the March 2005 Obesity Surgery abstract showing 2 patients with gout attacks post op but am not finding anything else about gout associated with weight loss. Just want to make sure there isn't anything we should look at pre-op or anything we should add to post op management.Thanks,Diane Olson MS, RD, CDEUW Health Bariatric ProgramUniversity of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinicsdl.olson@...

[Guest guest]

:

I am on Inspra and also suffer from gout. The question to ask

your physician is what is your uric acid level. It should be between

3.5 and 8.5 MG/DL. If it is high you can take allopruinol to reduce

it. BTW it is also wise to reduce this number because it can be a

source of radio-opaque kidney stones.

The drug is mild and low cost, with few side effects. Also

reducing your diet in red meats can help.

[Guest guest]

ONE USUALLY TRIES URICOSURIC DRUGS BEFORE ALLOPURINOL. WHAT OTHER DRUGS ARE YOU ON?

Dr. Clarence E. Grim, BS (Chem/Math), MS (Biochem), MD

Board Certified in Internal Medicine, Geriatrics and Hypertension

High Blood Pressure Consulting

Milwaukee, WI

[Guest guest]

I did not have high uric acid before I was hypertensive. My diuretic

is suspected of raising my uric acid levels. The problem is that the

combination of Spiro and Furosemides have been very effective in

lowering my blood pressure for the last five months.

I am trying to search the net for the the recommended food to avoid or

prevent gout. I noticed somehow some inconsistencies of some sites. At

one site I have read that shrimps are ok, others not. Even tomatoes

are recommended in others but must be avoided on one site I have seen.

>

> :

> I am on Inspra and also suffer from gout. The question to ask

> your physician is what is your uric acid level. It should be between

> 3.5 and 8.5 MG/DL. If it is high you can take allopruinol to reduce

> it. BTW it is also wise to reduce this number because it can be a

> source of radio-opaque kidney stones.

> The drug is mild and low cost, with few side effects. Also

> reducing your diet in red meats can help.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> ONE USUALLY TRIES URICOSURIC DRUGS BEFORE ALLOPURINOL. WHAT OTHER

DRUGS ARE

> YOU ON?

>

Dr. Grim,

I am on Spironolactone 50mg twice a day, Furosemides (Lasix)40 mg

twice a day, and Lacidipine (lacipil) 6ng once a day, a calcium

channel blocker.

Since I believe that Lasix is helping increase the uric acid, I

reduced it to once daily after my gout experience. Do you think I

should adjust my Spiro too?

For the gout, I was given colchicine 0.5mg tablets, 1mg every four

hours for the first 24 hours. I developed severe diarrhea on the third

dose. A call to the doc during the weekend was not returned. I went

online and found out that diarrhea with colchicine was a sign of

overdose, so I stopped it. However the pain and inflammation started

to go down and I can walk with minimal pain now.

Is mine a secondary gout?

I tried to avoid meat foods, fried foods for about a week now. I have

not yet found a doable dieting plan for gout friendly foods. Except

for avoidance of organ meats, there are inconsistencies in info on the

net regarding gout foods. Others say that fish is included in food to

be taken in moderation.

[Guest guest]

What are your uric acid levels and how much have they increased? Family history of gout?

Yes the classic description of gout is that it is as painful as childbirth.

I would let Dr. Bravo know of your gout and see what he suggests. Again I would increase spiro and decrease lasix first. If the uric acid is high then I would try a uricosuric drug before using Xyloprim

Dr. Clarence E. Grim, BS (Chem/Math), MS (Biochem), MD

Board Certified in Internal Medicine, Geriatrics and Hypertension

High Blood Pressure Consulting

Milwaukee, WI