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Thanks so much for your helpful suggestions regarding our son. We planned a short trip away to visit family and we are going to go thru with it for the weekend. I am holding my breath, with much uncertainty as to what to expect but I feel that for the rest of our families sake, we need to go on with our lives. We have prearranged a few things to try to make it easier for him. I will post to the list next week how we made out as well as seeking further suggestions. Again, thank you.

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Hi,

The school and put in bathroom visits into his schedule throughout the day.

My son had about 4 of them. When he got to school part way thru the morning.

Afterlunch and after recess. They just sent him. it was on the schedule so he

had to follow the plan. Have them give it a try.

Jean

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In a message dated 3/12/03 8:56:58 PM Pacific Standard Time,

DeeVee2073@... writes:

> can imagine him sitting on that

> toilet one day and hearing a mumbling lady voice! I guess he don't want to

> stay around too long in there.

My daughter can go all day without using the bathroom because she absolutely

does not like the school bathrooms. Her aide discovered that didn't

mind the bathroom in the Kindergarten wing = bright & clean & 2 large stalls

and they can manage a visit during part of the day when no one else is likely

to be there. Very important now that has her period (!). She has a

bladder the size of Lake Superior and can pretty much go all day without

using the bathroom.

My oldest (non DS) became " impacted " in first grade from not using the

bathroom enough. We had to get her into the routine of using the bathroom -

and staying there LONG enough - at home.

- Becky

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thanks, his teacher did do the schedule thing and that was working out fine.

But tonight he just told me he was scared because a lady was talking and a

bell ringing. so maybe he is afraid. I can imagine him sitting on that

toilet one day and hearing a mumbling lady voice! I guess he don't want to

stay around too long in there. The school office is on the other side of

the boys bathroom wall and the assistant principals office is right up

against the boys wall so maybe he heard her voice through the wall and maybe

the bell sound was her phone ringing. Not sure, but this is what he told be

about a bell ringing and a lady mumbling. So I guess i'll bring this up to

the teacher tomorrow. But i talked with him and explained the principles

office is right there and he heard her talking and maybe her phone ringing.

so he felt better and we acted the situation out. I went in the bathroom and

closed the door and talked lightly and he tried it also. So he got to see

how you can hear things through walls. Plus we live in a townhouse with thin

walls so I also explained to him how we hear our neighbors going up and down

the steps through the walls. He seemed to have felt better after that. I

hope that helped him.

>From: angel2cook@...

>DeeVee2073@...,

>Subject: Re: suggestions

>Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 14:32:55 EST

>

>Hi,

>The school and put in bathroom visits into his schedule throughout the day.

>My son had about 4 of them. When he got to school part way thru the

>morning.

>Afterlunch and after recess. They just sent him. it was on the schedule so

>he

>had to follow the plan. Have them give it a try.

>Jean

>

>

>

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In a message dated 3/13/03 7:05:25 AM Pacific Standard Time,

deevee2073@... writes:

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>

> Yes last year in the kindy wing he had no problem either. Same here

> brighter

> and cleaner. The bathroom he use now is much bigger and dull.

>

>

>

Can you arrange that his visits be to the Kindy wing? Maybe to/from one of

his pullout activities? (That's what 's aide does.)

worth a try to see if it would allieviate the problem

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Yes last year in the kindy wing he had no problem either. Same here brighter

and cleaner. The bathroom he use now is much bigger and dull.

>From: RSYOSH@...

>

>Subject: Re: suggestions

>Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 00:03:01 EST

>

>In a message dated 3/12/03 8:56:58 PM Pacific Standard Time,

>DeeVee2073@... writes:

>

> > can imagine him sitting on that

> > toilet one day and hearing a mumbling lady voice! I guess he don't want

>to

> > stay around too long in there.

>

>My daughter can go all day without using the bathroom because she

>absolutely

>does not like the school bathrooms. Her aide discovered that didn't

>mind the bathroom in the Kindergarten wing = bright & clean & 2 large

>stalls

>and they can manage a visit during part of the day when no one else is

>likely

>to be there. Very important now that has her period (!). She has a

>bladder the size of Lake Superior and can pretty much go all day without

>using the bathroom.

>

>My oldest (non DS) became " impacted " in first grade from not using the

>bathroom enough. We had to get her into the routine of using the bathroom

>-

>and staying there LONG enough - at home.

>

>- Becky

>

>

>

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I would tell the aide to treat the child pretty much like any other typical

kid, except for a few areas that he needs special help in. That's what I

always told them with Jasmine at that age.

Toni

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A great book is *Count Us In* by Kingsley and Levitz, both

of whom have Down syndrome.

granny

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:05 PM, jarms20 <jarms20@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi,

>

> My name is , I'm a sister of a down syndrome male. Could anybody

> suggest any really good books, websites, family oriented associations or

> support groups in NE Ohio for someone caring for a ds person.

>

> It is ok to contact me off-list with any suggestion, I'll compile the

> results and send the group back the results in a few weeks.

>

> Thank you for any help you can give,

>

>

>

>

>

--

Not for ourselves but for the whole world we were born

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I can think of a few members here that are from NE Ohio..if they dont'

respond privately,let me know.

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> Hi,

>

> My name is , I'm a sister of a down syndrome male. Could anybody

> suggest any really good books, websites, family oriented associations or

> support groups in NE Ohio for someone caring for a ds person.

>

> It is ok to contact me off-list with any suggestion, I'll compile the

> results and send the group back the results in a few weeks.

>

> Thank you for any help you can give,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

> messages to go to the sender of the message.

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Hi

My first thought is that you are getting yourself onto a downward spiral, so

just do something to lift yourself back upwards - it can be a small step - not

something major to solve all your problems. Say something nice to someone else,

go for a walk in the sunshine (if you have sunshine today). Do something to

self correct/rebalance now and at the end of today, write your success journal

and recognise the positive parts of your day.

It can take just one thing to knock you down, but then it also only takes one

thing to start you back up again.

First thing for your sucess journal tonight might be " recognised I needed

support and asked for it "

Best wishes

Viv

>

> I have had two weeks of really awful disordered eating and behaviors related

to food and body. I thought every thing in my life was moving in a good

direction but about two weeks ago I began to feel more seriously compulsed in my

behavior surrounding food again -- it has only gotten worse.

>

> Now I am feeling depressed about it....and that depression is bleeding into

the way I am feeling about everything. And, I thought everything was going

well.

>

> It's so discouraging. Any suggestions?

>

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Hi ! Thanks for sharing. I know exactly what you are feeling. I am

there too!

SELF-CORRECTING and TIME are the only things i know to help me get out of

negative thinking. Try a gratitude list, too.. might help.

Today, I am grateful for the sun and for sweatpants :)

how about you?

with love,

Avie

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Vivienne <ruffed.lemur@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi

>

> My first thought is that you are getting yourself onto a downward spiral,

> so just do something to lift yourself back upwards - it can be a small step

> - not something major to solve all your problems. Say something nice to

> someone else, go for a walk in the sunshine (if you have sunshine today). Do

> something to self correct/rebalance now and at the end of today, write your

> success journal and recognise the positive parts of your day.

>

> It can take just one thing to knock you down, but then it also only takes

> one thing to start you back up again.

>

> First thing for your sucess journal tonight might be " recognised I needed

> support and asked for it "

>

> Best wishes

>

> Viv

>

>

>

> >

> > I have had two weeks of really awful disordered eating and behaviors

> related to food and body. I thought every thing in my life was moving in a

> good direction but about two weeks ago I began to feel more seriously

> compulsed in my behavior surrounding food again -- it has only gotten worse.

> >

> > Now I am feeling depressed about it....and that depression is bleeding

> into the way I am feeling about everything. And, I thought everything was

> going well.

> >

> > It's so discouraging. Any suggestions?

> >

>

>

>

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Program in the Environment, History of Art

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Good advice Viv. It's something I also needed, right now.

Best

Joy

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Vivienne <ruffed.lemur@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi

>

> My first thought is that you are getting yourself onto a downward spiral,

> so just do something to lift yourself back upwards - it can be a small step

> - not something major to solve all your problems. Say something nice to

> someone else, go for a walk in the sunshine (if you have sunshine today). Do

> something to self correct/rebalance now and at the end of today, write your

> success journal and recognise the positive parts of your day.

>

> It can take just one thing to knock you down, but then it also only takes

> one thing to start you back up again.

>

> First thing for your sucess journal tonight might be " recognised I needed

> support and asked for it "

>

> Best wishes

>

> Viv

>

>

> >

> > I have had two weeks of really awful disordered eating and behaviors

> related to food and body. I thought every thing in my life was moving in a

> good direction but about two weeks ago I began to feel more seriously

> compulsed in my behavior surrounding food again -- it has only gotten worse.

> >

> > Now I am feeling depressed about it....and that depression is bleeding

> into the way I am feeling about everything. And, I thought everything was

> going well.

> >

> > It's so discouraging. Any suggestions?

> >

>

>

>

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Hi ...

Whenever I find myself in a downward spiral...eating out of control, eating

sweets all day long I start talking positively to myself and think of one step I

can take to get back into balance. Maybe it's making a green juice or having a

big salad for lunch. One positive thing and then one more and soon it's been a

good day food wise and then I'm feeling more confident about myself and maybe

dress a bit nicer and that makes me want to eat healthier..etc etc. So take that

first step and do ONE good thing! and let it lead to another....

 

From: Joy Barber <saublezoika@...>

weightloss

Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 6:51 PM

Subject: Re: Re: suggestions

 

Good advice Viv. It's something I also needed, right now.

Best

Joy

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Vivienne <ruffed.lemur@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi

>

> My first thought is that you are getting yourself onto a downward spiral,

> so just do something to lift yourself back upwards - it can be a small step

> - not something major to solve all your problems. Say something nice to

> someone else, go for a walk in the sunshine (if you have sunshine today). Do

> something to self correct/rebalance now and at the end of today, write your

> success journal and recognise the positive parts of your day.

>

> It can take just one thing to knock you down, but then it also only takes

> one thing to start you back up again.

>

> First thing for your sucess journal tonight might be " recognised I needed

> support and asked for it "

>

> Best wishes

>

> Viv

>

>

> >

> > I have had two weeks of really awful disordered eating and behaviors

> related to food and body. I thought every thing in my life was moving in a

> good direction but about two weeks ago I began to feel more seriously

> compulsed in my behavior surrounding food again -- it has only gotten worse.

> >

> > Now I am feeling depressed about it....and that depression is bleeding

> into the way I am feeling about everything. And, I thought everything was

> going well.

> >

> > It's so discouraging. Any suggestions?

> >

>

>

>

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Thanks so much for your response (and everyone else -- as well as those who

regularly contribute, even if not to my message).  I appreciate your insight

and

knowing that you cared enough to reach out to me.

Jen

________________________________

From: e v <evergos@...>

" weightloss " <weightloss >

Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 1:54:40 PM

Subject: Re: Re: suggestions

 

Hi ...

Whenever I find myself in a downward spiral...eating out of control, eating

sweets all day long I start talking positively to myself and think of one step I

can take to get back into balance. Maybe it's making a green juice or having a

big salad for lunch. One positive thing and then one more and soon it's been a

good day food wise and then I'm feeling more confident about myself and maybe

dress a bit nicer and that makes me want to eat healthier..etc etc. So take that

first step and do ONE good thing! and let it lead to another....

 

From: Joy Barber <saublezoika@...>

weightloss

Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 6:51 PM

Subject: Re: Re: suggestions

 

Good advice Viv. It's something I also needed, right now.

Best

Joy

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Vivienne <ruffed.lemur@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi

>

> My first thought is that you are getting yourself onto a downward spiral,

> so just do something to lift yourself back upwards - it can be a small step

> - not something major to solve all your problems. Say something nice to

> someone else, go for a walk in the sunshine (if you have sunshine today). Do

> something to self correct/rebalance now and at the end of today, write your

> success journal and recognise the positive parts of your day.

>

> It can take just one thing to knock you down, but then it also only takes

> one thing to start you back up again.

>

> First thing for your sucess journal tonight might be " recognised I needed

> support and asked for it "

>

> Best wishes

>

> Viv

>

>

> >

> > I have had two weeks of really awful disordered eating and behaviors

> related to food and body. I thought every thing in my life was moving in a

> good direction but about two weeks ago I began to feel more seriously

> compulsed in my behavior surrounding food again -- it has only gotten worse.

> >

> > Now I am feeling depressed about it....and that depression is bleeding

> into the way I am feeling about everything. And, I thought everything was

> going well.

> >

> > It's so discouraging. Any suggestions?

> >

>

>

>

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I read this last night & thought of you:

The first thing you might do is revisit your past successes. I know you've got

'em, because how else could you be in a slump? A slump means you've fallen from

former grace; you can't have cold without heat, and you can't have a slump

without past success. Think about what you did right and how you felt doing it.

This was from Mark Sisson's site -- and the words rang really true with me when

I've fallen off the wagon (or more to the truth, been thrown under it and rolled

over by it!) ... I like the part about thinking how I felt doing it as that's

how I generally capture what I need to pull myself up from the wagon wheel ruts.

Colleen

I have had two weeks of really awful disordered eating and behaviors related to

food and body. I thought every thing in my life was moving in a good direction

but about two weeks ago I began to feel more seriously compulsed in my behavior

surrounding food again -- it has only gotten worse.

Now I am feeling depressed about it....and that depression is bleeding into the

way I am feeling about everything. And, I thought everything was going well.

It's so discouraging. Any suggestions?

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,

I read this last night & thought of you:

The first thing you might do is revisit your past successes. I know you've got

'em, because how else could you be in a slump? A slump means you've fallen from

former grace; you can't have cold without heat, and you can't have a slump

without past success. Think about what you did right and how you felt doing it.

This was from Mark Sisson's site -- and the words rang really true with me when

I've fallen off the wagon (or more to the truth, been thrown under it and rolled

over by it!) ... I like the part about thinking how I felt doing it as that's

how I generally capture what I need to pull myself up from the wagon wheel ruts.

Colleen

I have had two weeks of really awful disordered eating and behaviors related to

food and body. I thought every thing in my life was moving in a good direction

but about two weeks ago I began to feel more seriously compulsed in my behavior

surrounding food again -- it has only gotten worse.

Now I am feeling depressed about it....and that depression is bleeding into the

way I am feeling about everything. And, I thought everything was going well.

It's so discouraging. Any suggestions?

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The best idea that I have seen in the kefir listservs regarding WKG has been

presented very recently, so I am just reiterating it. We are sort of shooting

with our eyes closed if we don't take notes. I am using sticky notes right now.

I am unsure if they will last on the jar for 48 hours. But without notes, it is

all deductive reasoning, memory, and speculation.

and Katrina Bird's Incredibly Lucky Daddy

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