Re: rinsing

[Guest guest]

hi mandy,

as i understand it scobys should never be rinsed in tap water at anytime! please

feel free to chime in margret lol.

linda (sunny uk)

I believe in God, only i spell it nature.

Lloyd

kombucha tea

From: mandyhambidge@...

Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:57:57 +0000

Subject: rinsing

hi all

i just been reading about kombucha and i see about rinsing mother and baby in

tap water before brewing a new batch?

do you need to rinse between brews?

mandy

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[Guest guest]

...Hi. Whoaaahh.. nooo, i think u may have red it wrong. Never ever rinse your

Scoby in tap water or really any water! Maybe a good distlled vinegar wash here

and now. Luv Jahjet

>

> hi all

> i just been reading about kombucha and i see about rinsing mother and baby in

tap water before brewing a new batch?

> do you need to rinse between brews?

> mandy

>

[Guest guest]

...Hi. Whoaaahh.. nooo, i think u may have red it wrong. Never ever rinse your

Scoby in tap water or really any water! Maybe a good distlled vinegar wash here

and now. Luv Jahjet

>

> hi all

> i just been reading about kombucha and i see about rinsing mother and baby in

tap water before brewing a new batch?

> do you need to rinse between brews?

> mandy

>

[Guest guest]

so glad i asked now, i didnt think you was supposed to rinse but thought id best

check first

heres where i got the info

http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_4740440_grow-kombucha-tea.html

i guess never trust everything you read

mandy

> >

> > hi all

> > i just been reading about kombucha and i see about rinsing mother and baby

in tap water before brewing a new batch?

> > do you need to rinse between brews?

> > mandy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

sorry..did not mean to... it can kill good bacteria, (chlorene in water..etc)

when i wrote i did not see s reply yet, so i really wanted to stop you!!

Hehe got a little jumpy there..Jahjet

> > >

> > > hi all

> > > i just been reading about kombucha and i see about rinsing mother and baby

in tap water before brewing a new batch?

> > > do you need to rinse between brews?

> > > mandy

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

sorry..did not mean to... it can kill good bacteria, (chlorene in water..etc)

when i wrote i did not see s reply yet, so i really wanted to stop you!!

Hehe got a little jumpy there..Jahjet

> > >

> > > hi all

> > > i just been reading about kombucha and i see about rinsing mother and baby

in tap water before brewing a new batch?

> > > do you need to rinse between brews?

> > > mandy

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jahjet

i wasnt going to rinse, not quite ready yet anyway, just wanted to check as ive

seen no mention of it on here

mandy

> > > >

> > > > hi all

> > > > i just been reading about kombucha and i see about rinsing mother and

baby in tap water before brewing a new batch?

> > > > do you need to rinse between brews?

> > > > mandy

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Mandy I like your thinking, ask first.. I also know someone who almost did

that i was standing right next to her, when she was reaching for the faucet,

with pretty baby in one hand. I think sometimes automatically thinking we have

to wash,this is a great Kombucha Group, i learn a lot here..Luv jahjet

> > > > >

> > > > > hi all

> > > > > i just been reading about kombucha and i see about rinsing mother and

baby in tap water before brewing a new batch?

> > > > > do you need to rinse between brews?

> > > > > mandy

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Mandy I like your thinking, ask first.. I also know someone who almost did

that i was standing right next to her, when she was reaching for the faucet,

with pretty baby in one hand. I think sometimes automatically thinking we have

to wash,this is a great Kombucha Group, i learn a lot here..Luv jahjet

> > > > >

> > > > > hi all

> > > > > i just been reading about kombucha and i see about rinsing mother and

baby in tap water before brewing a new batch?

> > > > > do you need to rinse between brews?

> > > > > mandy

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

In message <hqd024+tfebeGroups> you wrote:

> Jahjet

> i wasnt going to rinse, not quite ready yet anyway, just wanted to check

> as ive seen no mention of it on here

Mandy,

Scobys do not belong to the human race who feels compelled to ablutions

with water all the time (even though it is not always good for the skin!)

Even more though, it is very bad to rinse scoby in water of any kind,

because water dilutes the precious and protective acidity of the culture

and lays it open to contamination, e.g. through mould.

If you do want to wash the harmless ooglies off, it's best done in the

KT itself which you can afterwards strain, or in distilled vinegar,

although the first is by far better.

http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk/family/scobygrow/home.html

So, please no water baths for scoby Kombucha culture!

All the best,

Margret:-)

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[Guest guest]

In message <hqcuil+tasleGroups> you wrote:

http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_4740440_grow-kombucha-tea.html

> i guess never trust everything you read

Mandy, you're absolutely right!

There is a lot of misinformation about Kombucha on the net.

Another reason why it's good to pick your fellow brewers' brains on this

list when you're not sure about something.

It proves again that your questions are not silly, but lead to greater

wisdom and common sense! ;-)

Margret:-)

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[Guest guest]

In message <hqcuil+tasleGroups> you wrote:

http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_4740440_grow-kombucha-tea.html

> i guess never trust everything you read

Mandy, you're absolutely right!

There is a lot of misinformation about Kombucha on the net.

Another reason why it's good to pick your fellow brewers' brains on this

list when you're not sure about something.

It proves again that your questions are not silly, but lead to greater

wisdom and common sense! ;-)

Margret:-)

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[Guest guest]

Personally, I would not want the nasty things that are in tap water in my KT or

on my precious Scobies

Rhonwyn

From: mum_says_8_is_enough <mandyhambidge@...>

Subject: rinsing

kombucha tea

Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 1:57 PM

 

hi all

i just been reading about kombucha and i see about rinsing mother and baby in

tap water before brewing a new batch?

do you need to rinse between brews?

mandy

[Guest guest]

Personally, I would not want the nasty things that are in tap water in my KT or

on my precious Scobies

Rhonwyn

From: mum_says_8_is_enough <mandyhambidge@...>

Subject: rinsing

kombucha tea

Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 1:57 PM

 

hi all

i just been reading about kombucha and i see about rinsing mother and baby in

tap water before brewing a new batch?

do you need to rinse between brews?

mandy

[Guest guest]

You don't merely rinse the culture jar. You put your kefir grains in a brand

new clean jar every time. If you deviate from this you will be sorry some

day. There is no need to rinse the kefir grains unless there is

contamination of some sort. (As in when people are lax about cleaning their

jar properly every time.) When the kefir tastes better you can quit rinsing.

Marilyn

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:57 PM, danebreak <izspots@...> wrote:

> I'm new to Kefir and have a quick question about rinsing. Do you rinse your

> kefir and or jar after you remove the grains. If so when and how often.

> Thankyou

> Dawn

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Dawn!

I have never rinsed my milk kefir grains -- and I don't rinse the culture jar --

I just put the grains back and add fresh milk. Every 2 weeks or so I will

completely scrub the jar. I'm certain others have different systems.

I also use a half gallon Mason glass jar, and I know I have 3 clumps of grains,

so when the kefir is ready to strain, I just use a slotted melamine cooking

spoon and scoop out the grains, pur off the kefir, and put the grains back into

the jar and add milk. It is so nice not to have to strain the grains and do all

that clean-up.

Connie

On Mar 16, 2011, at 3:57 PM, danebreak wrote:

> I'm new to Kefir and have a quick question about rinsing. Do you rinse your

kefir and or jar after you remove the grains. If so when and how often. Thankyou

> Dawn

>

>

Note from Marilyn:

Connie is asking for trouble because she does not rinse (or clean) her culture

jar every time. If anyone uses Connie's method, you risk contamination. If your

kefir starts to go off or other things start to go wrong, ask yourself if you

are using a brand new clean jar every time. That is the first thing you need to

correct. Contamination can happen even if you do this; then you need to rinse

the kefir grains with water. But only if they are making off tasting kefir.

There are many ways to make kefir. The more you deviate from the one best way,

the more likely things will go wrong. I do not want this discussion forum here

to end up in total confusion as the other kefir discussion forums have become

because of the many different methods, some questionable, like not cleaning the

jar every time.

You are dealing with bacteria. Please people, be clean. And while I am up on my

soapbox, NEVER touch the kefir grains with your hands. I cringed when I saw a

youtube video and they were handling the kefir grains with bare hands.

Marilyn

[Guest guest]

I get a lot of questions concerning bad tasting kefir. It will happen out of the

blue with seemingly no difference in procedure. Look to hygiene if that happens

to you.

I do not want anyone here to think I approve of the method of not keeping a

clean jar. I do not want that method promoted here for the sake of the new

people. I started this group to help new people to be successful and

especially to avoid the confusion that abounds on the internet and other kefir

. There are a hundred ways to make kefir. There is one best way.

Keep clean; you are dealing with bacteria.

Just because kefir grains are growing does not mean the correct bacteria are in

there. All that means is that the growth factor is in full force. That is not to

say there is anything wrong with your kefir or your kefir grains. They are

probably just fine. All I am saying is that many times, not washing the jar

backfires and there is trouble. All you new people out there, listen up, don't

get lazy; clean your jar, give your kefir grains a fresh change of milk every

day, keep your culture jar at room temperature...and they will serve you

forever.

Marilyn

who is responding to the post below

I don't rinse my grains and rarely clean my jar...they are growing like

crazy. I just put the grains back into the same mason jar with a plastic lid

screwed on slightly. This is the first I've heard of needing to wash the

jar often. I thought the whole point was that the kefir doesn't go bad and

you don't need to wash. Weren't they kept in goat skins way back when and I

wouldn't imagine they washed those EVER. I watched bunches of youtube

videos before I got my grains and from what I remember they were generally

always putting their grains back into the same jar without washing it.

> Welcome, Dawn!

>

> I have never rinsed my milk kefir grains -- and I don't rinse the culture

> jar -- I just put the grains back and add fresh milk. Every 2 weeks or so

> I will completely scrub the jar. I'm certain others have different

> systems.

>

> I also use a half gallon Mason glass jar, and I know I have 3 clumps of

> grains, so when the kefir is ready to strain, I just use a slotted

> melamine cooking spoon and scoop out the grains, pur off the kefir, and

> put the grains back into the jar and add milk. It is so nice not to have

> to strain the grains and do all that clean-up.

>

> Connie

>

>

> >>

>>

>

> Note from Marilyn:

>

> Connie is asking for trouble because she does not rinse (or clean) her

> culture jar every time. If anyone uses Connie's method, you risk

> contamination. If your kefir starts to go off or other things start to go

> wrong, ask yourself if you are using a brand new clean jar every time.

> That is the first thing you need to correct. Contamination can happen even

> if you do this; then you need to rinse the kefir grains with water. But

> only if they are making off tasting kefir.

>

> There are many ways to make kefir. The more you deviate from the one best

> way, the more likely things will go wrong. I do not want this discussion

> forum here to end up in total confusion as the other kefir discussion

> forums have become because of the many different methods, some

> questionable, like not cleaning the jar every time.

>

> You are dealing with bacteria. Please people, be clean. And while I am up

> on my soapbox, NEVER touch the kefir grains with your hands. I cringed

> when I saw a youtube video and they were handling the kefir grains with

> bare hands.

>

> Marilyn

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dawn,

I do not rinse my kefir or the jar, I use a fresh clean drinking glass since

I only make 8 oz of kefir per day. I put the grain in the glass and pour the

milk over it, cover with plastic wrap and set it on a saucer on the counter.

The next morning I remove the plastic and gently take out the grain,

scooping it out with a fork and put it into a clean glass. At that point the

kefir is all coagulated with only a small pocket or two of separation if

any. Then stir the kefir which thins it a bit, cover and refrigerate until

the next morning. The next day it is thick and cold and delicious! I do

often find tiny baby grains in my finished kefir doing it this way but I

personally like them. It's easy to just take it out rather than having to

strain and wash another utensil. When the grain grows too large the kefir

gets a little too sour for my taste so I use the fork to gently divide it

into two pieces.

--------------------------------------------------

From: " danebreak " <izspots@...>

> I'm new to Kefir and have a quick question about rinsing. Do you rinse

> your kefir and or jar after you remove the grains. If so when and how

> often. Thankyou

> Dawn

[Guest guest]

I saw that video. It was GROSS! I wondered if that girl had even washed

her hands first. Yuck.

Note from Marilyn:

>

> Connie is asking for trouble because she does not rinse (or clean) her

> culture jar every time. If anyone uses Connie's method, you risk

> contamination. If your kefir starts to go off or other things start to go

> wrong, ask yourself if you are using a brand new clean jar every time. That

> is the first thing you need to correct. Contamination can happen even if you

> do this; then you need to rinse the kefir grains with water. But only if

> they are making off tasting kefir.

>

> There are many ways to make kefir. The more you deviate from the one best

> way, the more likely things will go wrong. I do not want this discussion

> forum here to end up in total confusion as the other kefir discussion forums

> have become because of the many different methods, some questionable, like

> not cleaning the jar every time.

>

> You are dealing with bacteria. Please people, be clean. And while I am up

> on my soapbox, NEVER touch the kefir grains with your hands. I cringed when

> I saw a youtube video and they were handling the kefir grains with bare

> hands.

>

> Marilyn

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thankyou Marilyn, I definately have been cleaning my jar and utensils everytime

I strain my kefir, what I'm not sure is if I should be using soap to clean

everything or just really hot water.

Dawn

>

> > I'm new to Kefir and have a quick question about rinsing. Do you rinse your

> > kefir and or jar after you remove the grains. If so when and how often.

> > Thankyou

> > Dawn

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I actually wash and bleach solution my jars and let them air dry, but I do

use raw milk so I am extra careful.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 2:19 PM, danebreak <izspots@...> wrote:

>

>

> Thankyou Marilyn, I definately have been cleaning my jar and utensils

> everytime I strain my kefir, what I'm not sure is if I should be using soap

> to clean everything or just really hot water.

> Dawn

>

>

> >

> > > I'm new to Kefir and have a quick question about rinsing. Do you rinse

> your

> > > kefir and or jar after you remove the grains. If so when and how often.

> > > Thankyou

> > > Dawn

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hello, everybody,

I am also new to kefir grains and to this group, and I also have a question on

them.

Can I mix my kefir from yesterday with today's jar, or do I have to keep them

separate? somethimes I don' finish the one from the day before and then I get

the new batch.

Also, I was using pasteurized homogenized milk, and the kefir was of a nice

consistency, wouldn't start separating right until the 24 hour fermentation,

then I switched to raw goat's milk and started separating at 12 hour

fermentation, and the kefir is not thick at all, and at 24 hour fermentation

half of it is whey and the other half still looks thin, it does smell sour thou.

It's that the way it is suppost to be because is raw milk or Maybe the grains

just need more time to adjust?

Thanks,

> >

> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:57 PM, danebreak <izspots@> wrote:

> >

> > > I'm new to Kefir and have a quick question about rinsing. Do you rinse

your

> > > kefir and or jar after you remove the grains. If so when and how often.

> > > Thankyou

> > > Dawn

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hello ! Welcome to the group.

This is in answer to your question about storing the kefir and mixing it with

the previous day's batch. I grew up on a dairy farm and my mom always let the

milk from the current day cool in the fridge before adding it to already cooled

and stored milk. She said that when the fresh milk has cooled it would not hurt

the stored milk, since they are the same temp when combined. We risk unwelcome

bacteria growth by adding fresh to already cooled.

I strain my kefir into a pitcher that I cover and cool before adding to the jar

of stored kefir already in the fridge. It's a step that I think is as important

as using a clean jar for the new milk and grains.

At one point my grains were a little clotted with curds, so I rinsed them in

milk before putting them in the clean jar. My trials and errors occurred before

finding this great bunch of folks! Since I started using a clean jar every time

my grains haven't needed a major rinsing, but I still do it periodically if it

takes less than 24 hrs for the separation to start.

Clean Jar, Cool Kefir.

Happy Culturing!

Karin

> > >

> > > > I'm new to Kefir and have a quick question about rinsing. Do you rinse

your

> > > > kefir and or jar after you remove the grains. If so when and how often.

> > > > Thankyou

> > > > Dawn

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I use raw goat's milk and mine does not do that.

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:31 AM, ROSA <littlekids1@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hello, everybody,

>

> I am also new to kefir grains and to this group, and I also have a question

> on them.

>

> Can I mix my kefir from yesterday with today's jar, or do I have to keep

> them separate? somethimes I don' finish the one from the day before and then

> I get the new batch.

>

> Also, I was using pasteurized homogenized milk, and the kefir was of a nice

> consistency, wouldn't start separating right until the 24 hour fermentation,

> then I switched to raw goat's milk and started separating at 12 hour

> fermentation, and the kefir is not thick at all, and at 24 hour fermentation

> half of it is whey and the other half still looks thin, it does smell sour

> thou.

>

> It's that the way it is suppost to be because is raw milk or Maybe the

> grains just need more time to adjust?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> > >

> > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:57 PM, danebreak <izspots@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > I'm new to Kefir and have a quick question about rinsing. Do you

> rinse your

> > > > kefir and or jar after you remove the grains. If so when and how

> often.

> > > > Thankyou

> > > > Dawn

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Karin,

Thank you, and thank you for your answer, as I have 3 jars of kefir in the

fridge right now.

I haven't done any rinsing to the grains yet, I just got them a week ago, they

are doing so good, I do use a clean sterilized jar every time. I just noticed

that in the last couple days they grew to double already!

Can't wait to spare some with my sister

>

> Hello ! Welcome to the group.

> This is in answer to your question about storing the kefir and mixing it with

the previous day's batch. I grew up on a dairy farm and my mom always let the

milk from the current day cool in the fridge before adding it to already cooled

and stored milk. She said that when the fresh milk has cooled it would not hurt

the stored milk, since they are the same temp when combined. We risk unwelcome

bacteria growth by adding fresh to already cooled.

> I strain my kefir into a pitcher that I cover and cool before adding to the

jar of stored kefir already in the fridge. It's a step that I think is as

important as using a clean jar for the new milk and grains.

> At one point my grains were a little clotted with curds, so I rinsed them in

milk before putting them in the clean jar. My trials and errors occurred before

finding this great bunch of folks! Since I started using a clean jar every time

my grains haven't needed a major rinsing, but I still do it periodically if it

takes less than 24 hrs for the separation to start.

> Clean Jar, Cool Kefir.

> Happy Culturing!

> Karin

>

>