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Actually, agave is the boiled sap from the *agave* plant, not the prickly

pear plant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agave

I do not know what it would do to water grains, but there is quite a bit of

furor over the health of the product (or lack thereof) right now. We have

ditched it as a sweetener due to the questions raised, although we used to

use it regularly in our regular kefir.

You might try separating out some grains to see what the agave does as a

source of sugar (food) for them - I wouldn't try it on my whole batch of

grains unless I had some extras lying around. :)

GL

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On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Lee Barney <EvBarney@...>wrote:

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> I read on someone's WK site: *It is thought to have originated in

> Mexico, originally fermented with the juice of the Prickly Pear

> Cactus.* So - would that mean that Agave nectar would be good for the

> grains? I know the current thinking is that agave isn't all that good

> for us, but then, neither is sugar.

>

> I just happen to have some Agave, and figured if it was good for the

> grains, I'd let 'em have it.

>

> Anyone have any experience with or ideas about this?

>

> Ev

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Thanks for the clarification, Grace.

On 10/10/2010 6:43 PM, Sue Talbert wrote:

> Actually, agave is the boiled sap from the *agave* plant, not the prickly

> pear plant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agave

>

> I do not know what it would do to water grains, but there is quite a bit of

> furor over the health of the product (or lack thereof) right now. We have

> ditched it as a sweetener due to the questions raised, although we used to

> use it regularly in our regular kefir.

>

> You might try separating out some grains to see what the agave does as a

> source of sugar (food) for them - I wouldn't try it on my whole batch of

> grains unless I had some extras lying around. :)

>

> GL

>

> Grace,

> Sue

>

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The big issue with Agave is that it is a fructose, now that all sounds

natural, but that is not the issue. How the body metabolizes the fructose is

the issue, the work load falls almost completely to the liver putting undue

stress on it.

Using a natural cane sugar is much better. Cane sugar when consumed becomes

glucose which can be used directly by most any cell of the body, thus the

metabolizing load is spread across the body.

To read more about fructose and the issues with overuse here is a good

article. http://www.cookinggodsway.com/fructose-is-it-killing-your-liver/

For more info on Agave and its issues.

http://www.cookinggodsway.com/agave-nectar-natural-or-not/

Hope this helps.

Jeff

On 10/10/10 5:43 PM, " Sue Talbert " <sbtalbert@...> wrote:

> Actually, agave is the boiled sap from the *agave* plant, not the prickly

> pear plant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agave

>

> I do not know what it would do to water grains, but there is quite a bit of

> furor over the health of the product (or lack thereof) right now. We have

> ditched it as a sweetener due to the questions raised, although we used to

> use it regularly in our regular kefir.

>

> You might try separating out some grains to see what the agave does as a

> source of sugar (food) for them - I wouldn't try it on my whole batch of

> grains unless I had some extras lying around. :)

>

> GL

>

> Grace,

> Sue

>

>

> Wife to Mark

> Mama to n (8)

>

> Our God is a God who uses broken things: broken soil to produce a crop,

> broken clouds to give rain, broken grain to give bread, broken bread to give

> strength. " -Vance Havner~

>

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> *A Mother's Heart* <http://www.mamasheartblog.com/>: first ( & second) takes

> on marriage, motherhood, & life

> latest post: pondering black & white thinking …

> again<http://www.mamasheartblog.com/?p=1499>

>

>

> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Lee Barney

> <EvBarney@...>wrote:

>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> I read on someone's WK site: *It is thought to have originated in

>> Mexico, originally fermented with the juice of the Prickly Pear

>> Cactus.* So - would that mean that Agave nectar would be good for the

>> grains? I know the current thinking is that agave isn't all that good

>> for us, but then, neither is sugar.

>>

>> I just happen to have some Agave, and figured if it was good for the

>> grains, I'd let 'em have it.

>>

>> Anyone have any experience with or ideas about this?

>>

>> Ev

>>

>

>

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>>>>> How the body metabolizes the fructose is the issue, the work load falls

almost completely to the liver putting undue stress on it.

Using a natural cane sugar is much better. Cane sugar when consumed becomes

glucose which can be used directly by most any cell of the body, thus the

metabolizing load is spread across the body.<<<<<

Cane sugar is sucrose, which contains exactly half glucose and half fructose.

You are right about glucose being usable by almost all cells in the body, while

fructose burdens the liver.

When the kefir critters digest cane sugar/sucrose, they consume the glucose and

only some of the fructose, leaving most of the fructose as a residue in the

water kefir.

Seshat

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>When the kefir critters digest cane sugar/sucrose, they consume the glucose

and only some of the fructose, leaving most of the fructose as a residue in

the water kefir.<

Ooooh. That settles it for me - no feeding my WK grains anything with

agave. yowza. We avoid fructose w/o the added benefit of fibre & pulp, and

there is no fibre OR pulp in my WK. :\

Thanks for the information, Seshat.

Grace,

Sue

Wife to Mark

Mama to n (8)

Our God is a God who uses broken things: broken soil to produce a crop,

broken clouds to give rain, broken grain to give bread, broken bread to give

strength. " -Vance Havner~

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on marriage, motherhood, & life

latest post: pondering black & white thinking …

again<http://www.mamasheartblog.com/?p=1499>

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Hi. I'm new to the group and just going through old posts. Thanks for this one,

it was put in such a simple way that I finally get this issue with Agave. The

first article I read was from Mercola a few months ago.

Tks. NB

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> >> I read on someone's WK site: *It is thought to have originated in

> >> Mexico, originally fermented with the juice of the Prickly Pear

> >> Cactus.* So - would that mean that Agave nectar would be good for the

> >> grains? I know the current thinking is that agave isn't all that good

> >> for us, but then, neither is sugar.

> >>

> >> I just happen to have some Agave, and figured if it was good for the

> >> grains, I'd let 'em have it.

> >>

> >> Anyone have any experience with or ideas about this?

> >>

> >> Ev

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