Re: Water kefir and diabetes?

[Guest guest]

Stevia is the answer. Stevita brand is a good powder if you cannot buy

the actual leaves.

Joyce simmerman

[Guest guest]

Are you saying that we can use stevia instead of sugar to feed the water kefir

grains and make our kefir?

Tina

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> Stevia is the answer. Stevita brand is a good powder if you cannot buy

> the actual leaves.

> Joyce simmerman

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[Guest guest]

In my opinion feeding the grains stevia in powder or leaf form would not

work because the grains are bacteria and eat sugar. The milk kefir grains

eat the lactose (the sugar in milk) and the water kefir eat whatever type of

sugar you add to the water. Stevia tastes sweet but is not a sugar of any

kind and the grains will starve to death. I think of my grains like animals

that must be cared for with food and warmth. On the subject of water kefir

and diabetes if you ferment the drink long enough to loose most of the sweet

flavor when you taste it, then it is fine for people with diabetes because

the sugar has been consumed by the bacteria in the kefir. Often times milk

kefir can also be tolerated by people who are lactose intolerant because the

lactose has been consumed by the bacteria. If the final drink is too sour

and you want to sweeten it before drinking that would be a good time to add

Stevia.

Colleen

Are you saying that we can use stevia instead of sugar to feed the water

kefir grains and make our kefir?

Tina

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> Stevia is the answer. Stevita brand is a good powder if you cannot buy

> the actual leaves.

> Joyce simmerman

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Colleen.

I'm new to this forum and I appreciate your advice.

I was wondering about the sugar content in water kefir and I'm still afraid to

use it because of my candida overgrowth. In a few days, when my water kefir gets

really sour, I'll have to experiment with it and see how it affects the candida.

The problem with doing that is that if it does negatively affect the candida, it

will put me back days or weeks. Yikes! This is not fun at all.

The milk kefir seems to help me.

Happy New Year to you!

Tina

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> > Stevia is the answer. Stevita brand is a good powder if you cannot buy

> > the actual leaves.

> > Joyce simmerman

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[Guest guest]

Awesome comment. I would agree with that; I have pre-diabetes and when I

consume sugar I have a buzzing sound on one ear (this is appart from my PD).

When the water kefir is not fermented all the way through I get the buzzing;

when is well fermented I get no buzzing at all.

NB

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> > Stevia is the answer. Stevita brand is a good powder if you cannot buy

> > the actual leaves.

> > Joyce simmerman

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[Guest guest]

how do u know that it is fully fermented? taste ? I have the same concern. I

want to drink the water kefir when all the sugar is digested by the grains.

Appreciate all the advice I can get .

Al

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> > > Stevia is the answer. Stevita brand is a good powder if you cannot buy

> > > the actual leaves.

> > > Joyce simmerman

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[Guest guest]

You can always get a hydrometer from a homebrew company and check the

specific gravity at the start of fermentation and what you think is the

end, and try to calculate how much residual sugar is left.

I will be trying the same thing with my kombucha.

Leo

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:28 PM, adoshi4 <adoshi4@...> wrote:

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> how do u know that it is fully fermented? taste ? I have the same concern.

> I want to drink the water kefir when all the sugar is digested by the

> grains. Appreciate all the advice I can get .

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> Al

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> > > > Stevia is the answer. Stevita brand is a good powder if you cannot

> buy

> > > > the actual leaves.

> > > > Joyce simmerman

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[Guest guest]

From what I understood the sugar is gone since the kefir feeds off it. I am

doing the milk kefir and have been checking into the water kefir but haven't

learned enough about it yet. I am a diabetic and this morning I checked my sugar

and it was 122 and I drank about a cup of my milk kefir and about an hour or so

later I checked it again and it was 155. Wasn't quite sure when I drank it so I

am going to do it again just to make sure it's not running my blood sugars up. I

may not be letting mine sit long enough because from what I understood it

shouldn't run it up since the kefir feeds off the sugars in the milk. But going

to check it again to be sure.

Rose

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> > > Stevia is the answer. Stevita brand is a good powder if you cannot buy

> > > the actual leaves.

> > > Joyce simmerman

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[Guest guest]

Rose,

From what I understood, they don't consume all the sugars in the milk.

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Rose <rose4843@...> wrote:

> From what I understood the sugar is gone since the kefir feeds off it. I

> am doing the milk kefir and have been checking into the water kefir but

> haven't learned enough about it yet. I am a diabetic and this morning I

> checked my sugar and it was 122 and I drank about a cup of my milk kefir

> and about an hour or so later I checked it again and it was 155. Wasn't

> quite sure when I drank it so I am going to do it again just to make sure

> it's not running my blood sugars up. I may not be letting mine sit long

> enough because from what I understood it shouldn't run it up since the

> kefir feeds off the sugars in the milk. But going to check it again to be

> sure.

>

> Rose

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> > > > Stevia is the answer. Stevita brand is a good powder if you cannot

> buy

> > > > the actual leaves.

> > > > Joyce simmerman

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[Guest guest]

You may want to do a second ferment with your milk kefir to make sure the sugar

is consumed. After you strain your kefir (probably a 2day ferment), pour the

strained kefir into another jar and put a lid on it a little loose so the gas

can escape. Leave it on the counter for 1-2 days depending on the temp of your

kitchen. When you see the whey settling on the bottom, its time to refrigerate.

I have found that I can't do a second ferment this time of year as its too warm

in my kitchen. In the winter, I can leave it on my the counter for 2-3 days

before the whey really settles to the bottom.

I don't know enough about the water kefir but I do know that after its 48 hour

ferment time, if its still sweet, your grains are stressed and weak and need to

be rejuvinated. Culturesforhealth.comhas how to do this on their we site.

Al

Re: Water kefir and diabetes?

From what I understood the sugar is gone since the kefir feeds off it. I

am doing the milk kefir and have been checking into the water kefir but haven't

learned enough about it yet. I am a diabetic and this morning I checked my sugar

and it was 122 and I drank about a cup of my milk kefir and about an hour or so

later I checked it again and it was 155. Wasn't quite sure when I drank it so I

am going to do it again just to make sure it's not running my blood sugars up. I

may not be letting mine sit long enough because from what I understood it

shouldn't run it up since the kefir feeds off the sugars in the milk. But going

to check it again to be sure.

Rose

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> > > Stevia is the answer. Stevita brand is a good powder if you cannot buy

> > > the actual leaves.

> > > Joyce simmerman

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[Guest guest]

Greetings,

I let mine go until it separates, and then it doesn't bother my blood

sugar. The mild, creamy kefir is a bad for my blood sugar as straight

milk. It all depends on how far you let it go.

Bright Blessings,

Garth & Kim

www.TheRoseColoredForest.com

Bedias, Texas

On 6/6/2012 2:44 PM, on wrote:

> Rose,

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> From what I understood, they don't consume all the sugars in the milk.

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> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Rose <rose4843@...

> <mailto:rose4843%40>> wrote:

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> > From what I understood the sugar is gone since the kefir feeds off it. I

> > am doing the milk kefir and have been checking into the water kefir but

> > haven't learned enough about it yet. I am a diabetic and this morning I

> > checked my sugar and it was 122 and I drank about a cup of my milk kefir

> > and about an hour or so later I checked it again and it was 155. Wasn't

> > quite sure when I drank it so I am going to do it again just to make sure

> > it's not running my blood sugars up. I may not be letting mine sit long

> > enough because from what I understood it shouldn't run it up since the

> > kefir feeds off the sugars in the milk. But going to check it again to be

> > sure.

> >

> > Rose

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> > > > > Stevia is the answer. Stevita brand is a good powder if you cannot

> > buy

> > > > > the actual leaves.

> > > > > Joyce simmerman

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[Guest guest]

Thank you !

Rose