Sterilization

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Shadow lake

>>>>>>>>>I'm new to toiletries making, but not new to selling

to the public home made products...my thoughts are.........

We can/should sterilize the containers, all the tools, wear disposable

gloves and it does help in not contaminating things.. <<<<<<<<

The FDA does not require sterilization of cosmetic products.

New bottles and jars can be used without sterizing them.

hth

Sherry

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>>>>>>The FDA does not require sterilization of cosmetic products.

New bottles and jars can be used without sterilizing them.

hth

Sherry

Maybe so, but for the peace of mind I do sterilize everything. I worked with

the health dept. for years and the little blue light shines on mega germs on

counter tops after washing as we normally would after cooking a meal. Its

scary to think some don't sterilize after seeing that. Whoa! nasty nasty

germs lurk all over. I wouldn't think everyone bleaches the counters after

each meal, I didn't. Some may have never done so. And the bottles and jars

we use? Not to sterilize them would make my skin crawl with all the goodies

that lurk outside those things. How many hands have handled them before me,

with colds or ...something worse...especially the ones at department stores.

I use them, but I also sterilize to cut the chances of spreading germs. FDA

may not require it, but I wouldn't do it any other way. I just feel it's

part of the process. What we can't see, can hurt us.

JMO

Thanks Sherry,....I appreciate you pointing that out.

Pam

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You would also have a hard time sterilizing them. I resterilize syringes

and needles and I have to boil them for 15 min. You would need a chemical

agent to sterilize containers. You would need surgeons gloves to take care

of your hands. You could use a bleach solution but I wouldn't want that

with my toiletries so sterilization is really not practical. If you are

aseptic (clean) that should be good enough.

Chris

Re: sterilization

> Shadow lake

> >>>>>>>>>I'm new to toiletries making, but not new to selling

> to the public home made products...my thoughts are.........

> We can/should sterilize the containers, all the tools, wear disposable

> gloves and it does help in not contaminating things.. <<<<<<<<

>

> The FDA does not require sterilization of cosmetic products.

> New bottles and jars can be used without sterizing them.

>

> hth

> Sherry

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Most teachers..and I say teachers respectively, of cosmetic making, say a

solution of 10% bleach is used to sterilize the bottles, rinsed well in

purified water and left to drain dry and air a few days before filling. I

don't feel that would hurt since the solution is rinsed out well. No smell

lingers if aired properly afterwards..

Like said earlier, having been in the heath field for many years, found that

the kitchen is the worse place in the home for germs.. Yes, even worse than

the bathroom. Just normal washed of last nights spoons is not enough. Tests

show they are still contaminated with bacteria from the night before.

Prevention mag. did an article once yrs past of this and the survey said the

kitchen is where most get bacteria for salmonella (SP?) and illness of the

kind. Mainly because of beef and chicken juices left untreated on the

counters..laying tonight's foods there or our tools for lotions carries

these bacteria into our products. I guess being in that field for so long

gave me the heads-up and scares the beejebbers out me. A little precaution

is worth it to me, so I clean and clean and sterilize everything before

opening the first bottle of oil to make anything. Just makes me feel better.

<lol> if you'd seen those little creepy monsters under the microscope

I've seen on test strips from our high class restaurants and places, even

counter tops of people who make home made products, food and such for

bakeries or soaps for quaint little markets..eeewww you'd get the creepy

crawlies too. I guess it's just something that was bred deep into me after

seeing all that. I just can't do it any other way and take that chance.

I do appreciate your opinion on the subject and wish you nothing but the

very best! I mean absolutely no ill will in any way on this subject, just

wanted to share my opinion on the matter and that's all it's meant for..just

an opinion.

blessings,

Pam

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Pam I spent 16 years as a vet tech. and I bet I have seen worse that chicken

juice. You are still not sterilizing your are only sanitizing and there is

a difference. I do sanitize all the time. Although I don't do my jars. I

just don't feel the need. I also think that when you talk about illness how

many of us eat in the bathroom? So you are not likely to get as sick in

there as in the kitchen. I do agree that bacteria is a concern but don't go

over board. I am a food safety advisor too so I do know the risks but again

if you go to far you do more damage than good. We have seen this in many

ways by not exposing our selves to bacteria some times we get it worse. So

all I am saying is be clean and do sanitize but don't think that you are

sterilizing because you aren't.

Chris

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> Most teachers..and I say teachers respectively, of cosmetic making, say a

> solution of 10% bleach is used to sterilize the bottles, rinsed well in

> purified water and left to drain dry and air a few days before filling. I

> don't feel that would hurt since the solution is rinsed out well. No smell

> lingers if aired properly afterwards..

>

> Like said earlier, having been in the heath field for many years, found

that

> the kitchen is the worse place in the home for germs.. Yes, even worse

than

> the bathroom. Just normal washed of last nights spoons is not enough.

Tests

> show they are still contaminated with bacteria from the night before.

> Prevention mag. did an article once yrs past of this and the survey said

the

> kitchen is where most get bacteria for salmonella (SP?) and illness of the

> kind. Mainly because of beef and chicken juices left untreated on the

> counters..laying tonight's foods there or our tools for lotions carries

> these bacteria into our products. I guess being in that field for so long

> gave me the heads-up and scares the beejebbers out me. A little precaution

> is worth it to me, so I clean and clean and sterilize everything before

> opening the first bottle of oil to make anything. Just makes me feel

better.

> <lol> if you'd seen those little creepy monsters under the

microscope

> I've seen on test strips from our high class restaurants and places, even

> counter tops of people who make home made products, food and such for

> bakeries or soaps for quaint little markets..eeewww you'd get the creepy

> crawlies too. I guess it's just something that was bred deep into me after

> seeing all that. I just can't do it any other way and take that chance.

> I do appreciate your opinion on the subject and wish you nothing but the

> very best! I mean absolutely no ill will in any way on this subject, just

> wanted to share my opinion on the matter and that's all it's meant

for..just

> an opinion.

> blessings,

> Pam

>

>

>

>

>

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said...>>but don't think that you are

sterilizing because you aren't.

I do appreciate your opinion but let's don't assume either of us know

everything.. As for " going overboard " ? well, let's just say I do make

the attempt to " sanitize " the plastic bottles and sterilize glass and

everything else the heat and boiling doesn't destroy and if that's going

over board for myself, my family and friends, well it won't be a first.

A vet tech? hhhmmm Dropping a few things in the sterilization tank at the

vet's office could come in handy I'd say.

Have fun doing what you do.

Best wishes,

Pam

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In vet med we don't sterilize with chemical we use a steam and pressure

autoclave. Only instruments that would be used for minor repairs such as

stitches would be sterilized in a liquid. If you want to really clean you

should be using something like nolvasan which kills both gram neg. and gram

pos. germs as well as bacteria. Your bleach solution would have to be in

contact for 20 min. or more to do the job. It has been about 16 years since

I have worked in practice (run a farm now) but I don't think thinks have

changed much.

Chris

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> said...>>but don't think that you are

> sterilizing because you aren't.

>

> I do appreciate your opinion but let's don't assume either of us

know

> everything.. As for " going overboard " ? well, let's just say I do

make

> the attempt to " sanitize " the plastic bottles and sterilize glass and

> everything else the heat and boiling doesn't destroy and if that's going

> over board for myself, my family and friends, well it won't be a first.

> A vet tech? hhhmmm Dropping a few things in the sterilization tank at the

> vet's office could come in handy I'd say.

> Have fun doing what you do.

> Best wishes,

> Pam

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I totally agree with the sterilization of all of our bottles and jars. I

know this is a hassle and a lot of extra work but it would be sooooo

embarrassing, to say the least, if you sold something and it started growing

bacteria, mold, etc. in it. I don't care if there is a preservative in your

recipe, your container must be impeccably clean. What I've been doing is

rinsing first in a bleach solution, then clean hot water. Then I soak in

some antibacterial powder I got at the wine making supply store. This is

what they do with all their bottles and equipment. So far (for the past

4yrs.) I have had no problems. Myself, I just feel like that is what I would

expect from some product I purchased--that everything had been done to make

sure of no contamination. Just my 2c worth. :0) Sandy

> Most teachers..and I say teachers respectively, of cosmetic making, say a

> solution of 10% bleach is used to sterilize the bottles, rinsed well in

> purified water

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Use Oxy-clean. Is a great way to get the blood out. I use it alot on colored clothes with blood on them. Recently I had some nose bleeds that just wouldn't quit. Oxy-clean was able to get the blood out. Love JanetJoanna Holderbaugh <joannalind@...> wrote: I'm knew here and have been reading and reseaching for weeks, now. I appreciate all the information sharing that takes place here and other places. My DH has been dx'd w/Hep-c and auto-immune hepatis and is

not a candidate for treatment. He has venous-stasis and most of the time has open sores that bleed, on his legs. I'm able to bleach a lot of things like socks and sheets that the blood gets on and I wear gloves(I've been doing that for a long while because of my skin splitting when doing house-work, before there was a concern). I need to find a way to sterilize his jeans and other things that can't handle bleach. Blood was drawn yesterday to see if I'm infected. This won't be an issue if I'm positive. Have any of you dealt w/this? Or have any suggestions? or where to search. My "googling" hasn't helped me w/a practical solution. Thank you for being here and thanks for listening. Joanna No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/9/2005 I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon

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Here hun try this link it is to the CDC , and it has guidlines for sterilizing clothing to keep from spreading any infectious disease . You may find some helpful tips from this site

http://www.cdc.gov/search.do?action=search & queryText=sterilizing+clothing

Sterilization

I'm knew here and have been reading and reseaching for weeks, now. I appreciate all the information sharing that takes place here and other places.

My DH has been dx'd w/Hep-c and auto-immune hepatis and is not a candidate for treatment. He has venous-stasis and most of the time has open sores that bleed, on his legs. I'm able to bleach a lot of things like socks and sheets that the blood gets on and I wear gloves(I've been doing that for a long while because of my skin splitting when doing house-work, before there was a concern). I need to find a way to sterilize his jeans and other things that can't handle bleach.

Blood was drawn yesterday to see if I'm infected. This won't be an issue if I'm positive.

Have any of you dealt w/this? Or have any suggestions? or where to search. My "googling" hasn't helped me w/a practical solution.

Thank you for being here and thanks for listening.

Joanna

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mrs holderbaugh your diligence and caring is soooo above-the-scale.please don't change a thing with your attitude! As for your concerns//theres new color protected bleaches out there that will probably do your job....... 1,verse 9...Mr.Lassiter/DallasJoanna Holderbaugh <joannalind@...> wrote: I'm knew here and have been reading and reseaching for weeks, now. I appreciate all the information sharing that takes place here and other places. My DH has been dx'd w/Hep-c and auto-immune hepatis and is

not a candidate for treatment. He has venous-stasis and most of the time has open sores that bleed, on his legs. I'm able to bleach a lot of things like socks and sheets that the blood gets on and I wear gloves(I've been doing that for a long while because of my skin splitting when doing house-work, before there was a concern). I need to find a way to sterilize his jeans and other things that can't handle bleach. Blood was drawn yesterday to see if I'm infected. This won't be an issue if I'm positive. Have any of you dealt w/this? Or have any suggestions? or where to search. My "googling" hasn't helped me w/a practical solution. Thank you for being here and thanks for listening. Joanna No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/9/2005

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There are laundry products that contain bleach for colors

It should help you out and it doesnt bleach out the colors

Soak them for awhile.......

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> I'm knew here and have been reading and reseaching for weeks, now.

I appreciate all the information sharing that takes place here and

other places.

>

> My DH has been dx'd w/Hep-c and auto-immune hepatis and is not a

candidate for treatment. He has venous-stasis and most of the time

has open sores that bleed, on his legs. I'm able to bleach a lot of

things like socks and sheets that the blood gets on and I wear gloves

(I've been doing that for a long while because of my skin splitting

when doing house-work, before there was a concern). I need to find a

way to sterilize his jeans and other things that can't handle bleach.

> Blood was drawn yesterday to see if I'm infected. This won't be an

issue if I'm positive.

> Have any of you dealt w/this? Or have any suggestions? or where

to search. My " googling " hasn't helped me w/a practical solution.

> Thank you for being here and thanks for listening.

> Joanna

>

> No virus found in this outgoing message.

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12/9/2005

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