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Hello Dr. Yadav,

I am so grateful for yr feedback. I need to know the actors case in the OSCe and the Treatment plan cases ...plz send me as soon as u can.

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From: shishir yadav <drshishiryadav@...>Subject: Feedback April ore2 Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 4:53 PM

Dear All,

First of all sorry for the delay in providing the feedback.

I sat for my ORE part 2 in April.

The exam was straight forward.

First day the OSCEs.

Mostly from the 40 OSCEs uploaded on the site. Blood pressure was the tough one. I was not able to palpate the Radial pulse. Moreover to make things worst in 5 minutes the examiner made a mess of the cuff and the tubes. It make look simple as we all have taken BP a lots of time in our life but practice taking the BP in 5 mins. with all possible complications with the apparatus.

There was no Hand Washig.

No sutures.

No IM injections. So people sitting in May should expect them.

The other stations were OK. But I will advice all of you kindly practice time management, practice with a partner. As there were at least 5 stations with actors and you should know what to talk in 5 minutes.

Practice talking.

Arranging the X rays was also tough as there was one more exercise in the same station. Therefore you ought to be quick, should not take more than 3 minutes to arrange the X rays.

The Second day

The second day we got

Class II left 6, Gold crown rt 6 and impression of lower lt. prepared molar. Class II – you had to the cl II on the upper teeth and fill the lower II premolar. That was the ideal cavity, so it takes time. Moreover the amalgam which they were providing believe me was not good as it was setting in a very short time. They asked me the ideal properties of the lining materials. Is compressive st. of the liner clinically a concern? Crown – the examiners were not very happy about the cheek retraction. They wanted all the preparation in indirect vision with proper hand rest. They were constantly telling everybody to do that. I will advice all of you to practice the crown preparation in the indirect vision with proper hand rest. Impression was straight forward. They allowed us to take two impressions and answer some questions like which one do U think is better and why? If the tray is shining through the impression what should be done. Time management is very important as plenty of people in my batch were not able to complete their work. One more very important thing that all of the people in my batch noted was the water coming through the airotor was frothy. It seems the GDC people add some antibacterial to it and it was virtually impossible at least for me to see what I am cutting. I really had a tough time with that. The good point was that the teeth were loose enough, I could really put a wedge or at least 3-4 matrix strips in between the teeth easily and work very comfortably. Third day Treatment planning was good one. The patient was very cooperative. They answer quickly and sensibly. You ought to catch the hints. The time management again is very important. After history taking the examiners asked me what all investigations you will like to have. I told them everything and they just gave all the findings and went out of the room. I told all the investigations in 1 min so I had 9 min to work out my treatment plan. Then, another 10 min to talk to the patient. Explain it quickly and precisely so that patient is able to understand. The examiners will not say anything. They will simply sit and yawn on your face. It was really ridiculous. The cpr was also straight forward. Same scenario of Hoover and Mr. collapsing. The questions were all simple. They asked me about Anaphylaxis, Choking and Vasovagal Syncope.

I hope to clear my exams this time. I wish best of luck to all of you. I will be happy to answer any other questions. TATA