Various topics, but mainly lip balm! :-)

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>>The trick here is to take a basic lip balm recipe and adjust it by either

increasing the amount of oil, AND/OR decreasing the

amount of wax.<<

Thanks again, NightShade! :-) I appreciate your help. I don't know,

petroleum jelly might be a good consistency for lip balm ... what I liked

about Yves Rocher's lip balm is that it goes on so smoothly and is kind of

" sticky, " and it feels like my lips are really getting coated! :-) I love

the lip balms that I make, too, but Yves Rocher has some good stuff. I will

definitely have fun experimenting! :-)

>>I LOVE Yves Rocher!!! Their derma-controle cream works well, and I love

their Ming Shu fragrance. I really would like to find a recipe for their ADN

Revitalizing Day Cream. That stuff works great on my dry skin.<<

I love the Ming Shu fragrance, too! But my very very favorite is Rose

Ispahan. That's truly my favorite perfume. I love the shower gel in that

scent, too. I've heard that they're discontinuing it, and I am VERY upset

about that -- so I plan to order all I can before it is gone!!! :-( I have a

special story behind that perfume that I won't go into here because it's too

long of a story, but I wore that perfume on my wedding day. :-) Anyway, Yves

Rocher rocks!!!

I am going " no mail " because I will be in Indiana tomorrow through the 11th.

So take care, guys, and talk to you when I get back!

nne (Albany, NY) :-)

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nne wrote:

> Thanks again, NightShade! :-) I appreciate your help. I don't know,

> petroleum jelly might be a good consistency for lip balm ... what I liked

> about Yves Rocher's lip balm is that it goes on so smoothly and is kind of

> " sticky, " and it feels like my lips are really getting coated! :-) I love

> the lip balms that I make, too, but Yves Rocher has some good stuff. I

will

> definitely have fun experimenting! :-)

You're welcome again. Petroleum jelly is a pretty good consistency for lip

balm. I used to use it all the time when I was (much) younger. But now

that I've learned more about what's in products and what's good for the

skin, I'm more inclined to make the " unpetroleum jelly " , altering it so that

it becomes a hybrid between the jelly and a lip balm.

I love experimenting, and often think the formulating and experimenting side

is my forte. I can sit for hours formulating and reformulating soaps,

lotions, etc, changing ingredients as new ideas pop into my mind. The great

thing about experiementing is that if you make small batches, you don't

waste ingredients and you get to try a lot of different things.

> I love the Ming Shu fragrance, too! But my very very favorite is Rose

> Ispahan. That's truly my favorite perfume. I love the shower gel in that

> scent, too. I've heard that they're discontinuing it, and I am VERY upset

> about that -- so I plan to order all I can before it is gone!!! [snip]

It might be possible to formulate a copycat scent. There are a few sites on

the internet that break down fragrance ingredients, and many people on the

various bath & body related lists have formulated their own versions. It

would take some research and probably a lot of experimenting, but it could

be possible to do. The first step is identifying the individual scents in

the fragrance. Check the packaging to see if any clues are in the product

description or ingredient list. You can also try to identify the scents

yourself (try putting a few drops on a cotton ball, closing your eyes and

sniffing to determine what it is your nose smells). I'm writing this

off-liine at the moment, but when I can get back online, I'll see if I can

find any info. If you belong to any other lists, ask if anyone knows what

the scent blend is. Someone just might know.

> I am going " no mail " because I will be in Indiana tomorrow through the

11th.

> So take care, guys, and talk to you when I get back!

Hope you have fun and enjoy yourself.

NightShade

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From: Cat <saturner@...>

> I managed to find this from the book " Fragrance Guide: Feminine Notes " by

> Muller:

ACK!! Another book I need to get. Darn it! Anyway, this should help get

that fragrance formulated at home. I think it was Whitney who liked this

scent.

> Ispahan by Yves Rocher

> Top Notes: Aldehydes (main scent), orange, bergamot, fruity note

> Middle Note: Carnation (main scent), rose, ylang-ylang, magnolia, jasmine,

> cinnamon

> Base note: Ambergris (main scent), myrrh, tolu, sandalwood, patchouli,

musk,

> benzoin, frankincense

[snip]

Okay, what is aldehydes??? I've never heard of it. It sounds like some

chemical (reminds me of formaldehyde, name-wise).

Fruity note? Hmmm, could be almost anything. Would suggest trying either a

melon or berry, or perhaps a blend. I know of at least 3 suppliers who

carry various fruity notes. This is going to take some experimenting.

On the rose, since it was mentioned that the fragrance was called Rose

Ispahan, I would suggest buying some rose absolute or otto for use in the

final formulation. It will give the scent the depth that only the

absolute/otto can give. Camden-Grey has sampler packs, one of which

includes the rose. The packs have very small amounts, but with rose

absolute or otto, you only need one or two drops anyway. I think the pack

may also have jasmine absolute. I would use fragrance oils during the

experimentation stage, and use the absolutes in the final formula that will

be worn.

> For a perfume, mix 1 part of your fragrance blend with 4 parts vodka or

> grain alcohol or jojoba oil

[snip]

My personal preference is to use oil. The scent seems to stick around

longer. I tend to use a blend of almond, jojoba and vitamin e oils.

For anyone who doesn't like the idea of or can't use the alcohol, and don't

want to use oil there is a perfume " base " available from some suppliers. I

can't remember exactly what it's called at the moment, or which suppliers

carry it, but if anyone is interested, give me a holler and I'll check my

bookmarked suppliers. I know it's in there somewhere.

NightShade