Re: Went to the ortho doc today

[Guest guest]

I saw my OS myself yesterday. When I complained about the pain a year

and a half after he performed a surgery on my knee he said " oh, that

happens. Sometimes it doesn´t work for CP " and the he added " Some

people are much worse than you are " ...000

No comments.

Then he prescribed PT (I have been in PT the whole 2001) and more

celebrex and glucosamine !!! He must be nuts.

I asked about prolo and he said that is not a medical procedure... ?¿

Anyway, if it makes you feel better this was my visit to my dear OS.

Luckily I am feeling much better.

Some of this doctors shoul visit these page !

Marga

[Guest guest]

> Then he prescribed PT (I have been in PT the whole

> 2001) and more

> celebrex and glucosamine !!! He must be nuts.

How much Glucosamine are you guys taking per day,Celebrex??,Advil??

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[Guest guest]

> How much Glucosamine are you guys taking per day,Celebrex??,Advil??

I take 1500 mg per day (the product is prescribed and called xicil).

You are suppose to take it during 3 months and then stop for a while.

I try to stay away from advil myself and only take it when it really

hurts.

I also try to stay away from Celebrex and never take it at the same

time as advil (I think it is no good for you to mix). Celebrex is

once a day pill. It is quite strong. I took it during a complete

month last year, again once a day.

I believe the best teraphy for CP is a good PT and lots of care !

Have a good day, everyone!

marga

[Guest guest]

:

That sounds like a lousy doctor to me. He may be a talented

surgeon, but he's a lousy doctor, you know what I mean?

It seems like he has no idea what is causing your pain, but wants to

do a surgery anyway. Scary.

Try to find a pain specialist. That way you'll be dealing with

someone who has a few thoughts besides, " let's cut you open and peek

around. "

Please don't get discouraged. There is someone out there who can

fix your problems. We just have to put you in touch with him or

her. It is a long road, but you will arrive at a cure eventually.

- Doug

> Well as fate would have it Doug pretty much had things

> nailed down.The doc comes in looks over the report and

> says " you have a tear in the meniscus " .I say " oh " to

> wich he replies " we could repair it with surgery

> arthroscopicly " .He then describes the procedure.I ask

> him if this will help the crepitus and discomfort in

> the kneecap and he says no.I then ask him where I

> would feel discomfort from this torn Meniscus he

> points to the inside of my knee.Thats all I needed to

> see because I dont have ANY PAIN whatsoever in that

> area He says well it's up to you if you want it

> repaired.Forget that nonsense.I tell him I am

> uncomfortable in the kneecap area.He suggests

> cortizone shot for the pain.I remember reading on this

> list to steer clear of that at all costs so that idea

> I shot down instantly.Prolotherapy? he says yea I have

> heard about it but " it wont work " (no doubt he has

> ever tried or investigated it to any degree)I tell him

> of this list and that some have found great benifit

> from it.He says everyone is different so what works

> for some will not for others.I then ask about Synvisc

> he tells me it may help but my insurance company will

> not cover it for treating CP.Then he adds if he did

> the procedure to the Meniscus and while he was in

> there I see cartilige wear under the kneecap I can go

> to the insurance and tell them there is visible wear

> that the MRI did not pick up and then they would cover

> the Synvisc injections.He says the stuff is expensive

> at 180 dollars a vile. I then ask then what about the

> other knee ,oh they wont cover that.I'm calling my

> insurance company on Monday to ask about it.He writes

> a script for PT and says to give it a try and he wants

> to see me in 4 weeks.I guess he can then tell me all

> this same crap over again.He added I should try

> Glucosamine.Seems as if this is the beginning of a

> long road to nowhere.

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Marga:

This guy sounds like a lousy doctor too. As if it would make you

feel better that " some people are worse than you. "

Anyone who says that prolotherapy is not a " medical procedure "

obviously doesn't know what it is. He's confusing it with something

else.

If you have the energy, try to educate him to the benefits of

prolotherapy. Bring some articles with you next time you go (if you

see him again). I doubt he'll be very open minded. Your time is

probably better spent searching for a doctor that can help figure

out what is wrong with you. Obviously this guy was wrong with the

surgery.

Good luck,

Doug

> I saw my OS myself yesterday. When I complained about the pain a

year

> and a half after he performed a surgery on my knee he said " oh,

that

> happens. Sometimes it doesn´t work for CP " and the he added " Some

> people are much worse than you are " ...000

>

> No comments.

>

> Then he prescribed PT (I have been in PT the whole 2001) and more

> celebrex and glucosamine !!! He must be nuts.

> I asked about prolo and he said that is not a medical

procedure... ?¿

>

> Anyway, if it makes you feel better this was my visit to my dear

OS.

>

> Luckily I am feeling much better.

>

> Some of this doctors shoul visit these page !

>

> Marga

[Guest guest]

:

Sounds like a lousy doctor. Maybe a talented surgeon, but a lousy

doctor, you know?

I think you should try to find a pain specialist. At least you'll

be dealing with someone who has a few thoughts besides " let's cut

you open and peek around. "

I doubt he knows much about prolotherapy. It seems like he has no

idea what's wrong with you and is grasping at straws. A good rule

of thumb for whether prolotherapy will work is, " if you can put your

finger on the pain, chances are good prolotherapy can fix it. "

Please don't get discouraged. There is someone out there who can

cure you. We just have to find out who that is and put you in touch

with him or her. It will be a long road, but eventually you'll

arrive at a cure.

Good luck,

Doug

> Well as fate would have it Doug pretty much had things

> nailed down.The doc comes in looks over the report and

> says " you have a tear in the meniscus " .I say " oh " to

> wich he replies " we could repair it with surgery

> arthroscopicly " .He then describes the procedure.I ask

> him if this will help the crepitus and discomfort in

> the kneecap and he says no.I then ask him where I

> would feel discomfort from this torn Meniscus he

> points to the inside of my knee.Thats all I needed to

> see because I dont have ANY PAIN whatsoever in that

> area He says well it's up to you if you want it

> repaired.Forget that nonsense.I tell him I am

> uncomfortable in the kneecap area.He suggests

> cortizone shot for the pain.I remember reading on this

> list to steer clear of that at all costs so that idea

> I shot down instantly.Prolotherapy? he says yea I have

> heard about it but " it wont work " (no doubt he has

> ever tried or investigated it to any degree)I tell him

> of this list and that some have found great benifit

> from it.He says everyone is different so what works

> for some will not for others.I then ask about Synvisc

> he tells me it may help but my insurance company will

> not cover it for treating CP.Then he adds if he did

> the procedure to the Meniscus and while he was in

> there I see cartilige wear under the kneecap I can go

> to the insurance and tell them there is visible wear

> that the MRI did not pick up and then they would cover

> the Synvisc injections.He says the stuff is expensive

> at 180 dollars a vile. I then ask then what about the

> other knee ,oh they wont cover that.I'm calling my

> insurance company on Monday to ask about it.He writes

> a script for PT and says to give it a try and he wants

> to see me in 4 weeks.I guess he can then tell me all

> this same crap over again.He added I should try

> Glucosamine.Seems as if this is the beginning of a

> long road to nowhere.

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Actually Synvisc is minimum $300 a shot plus the anesthetic! For me

the total for two knees, 3 injections was $3000! My insurance

convered it all minus my deductible for each visit! You may just need

to call and have it pre-certified, but if it is documented why you

need it, they should cover it! Good luck!

> Well as fate would have it Doug pretty much had things

> nailed down.The doc comes in looks over the report and

> says " you have a tear in the meniscus " .I say " oh " to

> wich he replies " we could repair it with surgery

> arthroscopicly " .He then describes the procedure.I ask

> him if this will help the crepitus and discomfort in

> the kneecap and he says no.I then ask him where I

> would feel discomfort from this torn Meniscus he

> points to the inside of my knee.Thats all I needed to

> see because I dont have ANY PAIN whatsoever in that

> area He says well it's up to you if you want it

> repaired.Forget that nonsense.I tell him I am

> uncomfortable in the kneecap area.He suggests

> cortizone shot for the pain.I remember reading on this

> list to steer clear of that at all costs so that idea

> I shot down instantly.Prolotherapy? he says yea I have

> heard about it but " it wont work " (no doubt he has

> ever tried or investigated it to any degree)I tell him

> of this list and that some have found great benifit

> from it.He says everyone is different so what works

> for some will not for others.I then ask about Synvisc

> he tells me it may help but my insurance company will

> not cover it for treating CP.Then he adds if he did

> the procedure to the Meniscus and while he was in

> there I see cartilige wear under the kneecap I can go

> to the insurance and tell them there is visible wear

> that the MRI did not pick up and then they would cover

> the Synvisc injections.He says the stuff is expensive

> at 180 dollars a vile. I then ask then what about the

> other knee ,oh they wont cover that.I'm calling my

> insurance company on Monday to ask about it.He writes

> a script for PT and says to give it a try and he wants

> to see me in 4 weeks.I guess he can then tell me all

> this same crap over again.He added I should try

> Glucosamine.Seems as if this is the beginning of a

> long road to nowhere.

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I think the dosage of GC is 500mg glucos./400mg chondr. per tab. I

beleive you are to start at 3 tabs a day until it builds up in your

system and then you can drop to 2 a day. Least, that is how I did it.

I take all mine at once. Don't know if I am supposed to do it that

way, but I always have.

I forget the dosage of celebrex. there are 2 strengths, 100mg and

300mg? I am not sure though. I would lay off the advil and try

celebrex or vioxx instead. good luck!

>

> > Then he prescribed PT (I have been in PT the whole

> > 2001) and more

> > celebrex and glucosamine !!! He must be nuts.

>

>

> How much Glucosamine are you guys taking per day,Celebrex??,Advil??

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

You are right...do NOT take Celebrex and advil together! They have

similiar actions. You'll give yourself an ulcer!

> > How much Glucosamine are you guys taking per

day,Celebrex??,Advil??

>

> I take 1500 mg per day (the product is prescribed and called

xicil).

> You are suppose to take it during 3 months and then stop for a

while.

>

> I try to stay away from advil myself and only take it when it

really

> hurts.

>

> I also try to stay away from Celebrex and never take it at the same

> time as advil (I think it is no good for you to mix). Celebrex is

> once a day pill. It is quite strong. I took it during a complete

> month last year, again once a day.

>

> I believe the best teraphy for CP is a good PT and lots of care !

>

> Have a good day, everyone!

>

> marga