Re: milk to grain ratio and heartburn

[Guest guest]

Purplesprout,

I love it when I am not the only one. I did just the opposit, I

heated a cup of milk, actually 2 as the dear lady sent me 2 large

batches of at least 2 Tbs. each. Any how heated milk to around 55° F,

added the grains, and placed them in my warm bedroom, 72°. I had

total eclipse of curds and whey, like oil and water. Repeated it all

with a qt of milk each and that lasted 12 hours. Super thick curds,

had to do both batches by finger feel to seperate. Then cold milk, on

cold kitchen counter and went 18 hours till it just started to

seperate and so much better. Like a new puppy, you have to adopt to

each other.

However, the lady did warn me not to take too much to start with or I

could have a really crappy experiance and just feel bad as it would

flush too much of bad stuff out too fast, and would cause problems.

That may have been your experiance. Recommendations were to start

with only an ounce a day with small increases each day. In 4 days i

was up to 8 oz. with no problem. Now I drink it like I used to drink

buttermilk, qt. and half a day. Love it.

>

> When I made my first batch of kefir, I mistakenly used 2 cups of

milk

> instead of one. At the end of the 24 hour period I drank the kefir

> and it was great. The next time, I followed the recipe and used

only

> 1 cup of milk. The following morning, I had my cup of kefir with

> breakfast and experienced heartburn. I blew it off, and made more

> kefir with one cup of milk. But the next day, the heartburn happened

> again! At first, I didn't make the connection with the kefir since

I

> had drank it the first day successfully. But then I realized that I

> had actually used a different ratio that first time. My question is

> this: If I increase the amount of milk in relation to the grains,

> will I still get the health benefits of the kefir, or will it not

have

> fermented properly? (P.S. I realize that as the grains grow I will

> need to use more milk, but my question is slightly different since I

> don't think they grew a massive amount after first time...)

>

> Thanks in advance for your responses,

> Purplesprout

>

[Guest guest]

What I would have done is given them two cups like you did. Since it was so

great the first first time then I'd increase to three cups the next time.

Then the next time four cups. You don't want it to taste strong. Prebiotics

(milk) are just as important as probiotics (kefir). Two strong of kefir

isn't so good for you as you know by experience.

Marilyn

On Dec 31, 2007 8:41 PM, purplesprout <purplesprout@...> wrote:

> When I made my first batch of kefir, I mistakenly used 2 cups of milk

> instead of one. At the end of the 24 hour period I drank the kefir

> and it was great. The next time, I followed the recipe and used only

> 1 cup of milk. The following morning, I had my cup of kefir with

> breakfast and experienced heartburn. I blew it off, and made more

> kefir with one cup of milk. But the next day, the heartburn happened

> again! At first, I didn't make the connection with the kefir since I

> had drank it the first day successfully. But then I realized that I

> had actually used a different ratio that first time. My question is

> this: If I increase the amount of milk in relation to the grains,

> will I still get the health benefits of the kefir, or will it not have

> fermented properly? (P.S. I realize that as the grains grow I will

> need to use more milk, but my question is slightly different since I

> don't think they grew a massive amount after first time...)

>

> Thanks in advance for your responses,

> Purplesprout

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think I might be like you, preferring it not to separate all that

much before I drink it. Though, for me, it was almost completely

separated after 24 hours. That second time I drank it I felt that it

was burning my esophagus on the way down. That can't be right....

Purplesprout

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for your reply. Initially I was worried that unless it

was superduper tart that it wasn't really kefir. I guess that's not

the case!!