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I wouldn't bother now. It may need thinning to get through the strainer. In

that case, I'd use milk.

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On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 6:40 PM, cg_lem <cathy@...> wrote:

> Thanks, Marilyn. I figured the heat most likely had something to do

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> Now, since I've separated the whey from this, should I combine this

> back together with the curds/kefir culture and then stir it all

> together and strain?

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You're very welcome. I'm thinking that when I collect enough whey to try this I

will add some milk to the whey to add a little fat and smoothness. I'm a little

worried about it burning so I think I'll boil it down to a light syrup

consistency and let the slow cooker take it from there.

Gjetost with apples on Ryecrisp! mmm!

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Pour some kefir into a coffee filter lined funnel. Whey will drip out.

Marilyn

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 2:43 PM, <daisy4357@...> wrote:

> OK, well all this discussion makes me wonder. I don't have any trouble

> getting whey when the grains are in, but after stirring and straining I

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> never get it to separate again. I over-ferment mine, of course, so I have

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> whey at the bottom but if I pour it off before straining, the grains are

> trapped in the thick curds and difficult to separate. Any ideas on that?

> Either getting whey after stirring and straining or getting grains out of

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> curds? Thanks

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>>>>Either getting whey after stirring and straining or getting grains out

>>>>of thick curds?>>>

Once I have strained the kefir grains out of my kefir, I strain the whey out

of the kefir by pouring it in a coffee filter. Actually I use my filter

coffee pot since I rarely make coffee anymore. Just pour the kefir into the

fillter lined basket and let the whey drip into the coffee pot.

If it wasnt for whey my coffee pot wouldnt be taking up space on the counter

anymore.

.....sharon

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But why take the whey out? We simplyput ours through the blender and recombine

it with the curds. It will reseparate somewhat, but a good shake before pouring

puts it all back together. I suppose you get a thicker product by taking the

whey off, but we found the whey accumulated and was often wasted. We get all the

whey we need when we make a batch of cheese every couple of weeks.

Ken

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>>>>Either getting whey after stirring and straining or getting grains out

>>>>of thick curds?>>>

Once I have strained the kefir grains out of my kefir, I strain the whey out

of the kefir by pouring it in a coffee filter. Actually I use my filter

coffee pot since I rarely make coffee anymore. Just pour the kefir into the

fillter lined basket and let the whey drip into the coffee pot.

If it wasnt for whey my coffee pot wouldnt be taking up space on the counter

anymore.

....sharon

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Hi you two!:-)

<<<But why take the whey out? >>>

I only strain my kefir when I want to make either ranch dressing or

cheesecake or use the whey for a lacto ferment. Mostly I just drink my kefir

just as it is in a smoothie. Unstrained.

Can you tell me about the cheese you make? How do you do it? What does it

taste like? texture?

thanks

....sharon

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I made the cheesecake mentioned a while back and it was really good. My husband

loved it and he refuses to drink kefir. I going to make it again for Memorial

Day with blueberries on top and I would like to try it sometime with drained

crushed pineapple added to it. I might have to increase the gelatin for that

though. This is a great deal for me because regular cheesecake gives me a couple

of days of terrible cramps and a bad case of the runs from all the lactose.?

Kefir cheese makes a good ice cream base. Something else I thought I wouldn't

get to have again. Hurray for kefir!!

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YUM! Kefir cream cheese. We use it on bagels and anything else you would use

cream cheese for.

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Something else. I think if drained kefir is sweetened and a little vanilla

added to it, it tastes like the cheese used to make tiramisu.

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Hi you two!:-)

<<<But why take the whey out? >>>

I only strain my kefir when I want to make either ranch dressing or

cheesecake or use the whey for a lacto ferment. Mostly I just drink my kefir

just as it is in a smoothie. Unstrained.

Can you tell me about the cheese you make? How do you do it? What does it

taste like? texture?

thanks

....sharon

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Hi :

>>>>>I would like to try it sometime with drained crushed pineapple added to

>>>>>it. I might have to increase the gelatin for that though. >>>

Something about the bromelian(I think it is) in pineapple will break down

gelatin. AS I understand it anyway. Although perhaps this is just with raw

pineapple.

>>>>Kefir cheese makes a good ice cream base.>>>>

Now this sounds wonderful. Wish I had an ice cream maker....might have to

get creative instead. Thanks for the idea.

.....sharon

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That is correct; it is fresh pineapple that can't be used in gelatin. The

canning process, though, breaks down the bromelain and there's no problem using

it (canned pineapple) in gelatin.

Rick

Sharon <swatts1@...> wrote: Hi :

>>>>>I would like to try it sometime with drained crushed pineapple added to

>>>>>it. I might have to increase the gelatin for that though. >>>

Something about the bromelian(I think it is) in pineapple will break down

gelatin. AS I understand it anyway. Although perhaps this is just with raw

pineapple.

>>>>Kefir cheese makes a good ice cream base.>>>>

Now this sounds wonderful. Wish I had an ice cream maker....might have to

get creative instead. Thanks for the idea.

.....sharon

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Too bad kefir (and kefir cheesecake, sour cream, etc) makes me FAT! Since I've

been using kefir (and associated by-products) I've been gaining weight.....which

wouldn't be so bad if I'd started out at 100 lbs or so. But at 5'8 " (or

thereabouts) I really don't need to weigh over 200 (which I do since using

kefir).

(And, please, no one use the " fat but fit " expression. That really is

oxymoronic.)

But....is it possible??? Could it be...that someone who has

a...tendency?...toward ....overweightitude?...really shouldn't be consuming 1000

calories a day of kefir on top of a normal diet? HMMM Should I consider just

scaling back a mite? To maybe just one quart? or one (shudder with dread...)

cup?

Rick

greyselchie@... wrote:

I made the cheesecake mentioned a while back and it was really good. My husband

loved it and he refuses to drink kefir. I going to make it again for Memorial

Day with blueberries on top and I would like to try it sometime with drained

crushed pineapple added to it. I might have to increase the gelatin for that

though. This is a great deal for me because regular cheesecake gives me a couple

of days of terrible cramps and a bad case of the runs from all the lactose.?

Kefir cheese makes a good ice cream base. Something else I thought I wouldn't

get to have again. Hurray for kefir!!

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YUM! Kefir cream cheese. We use it on bagels and anything else you would use

cream cheese for.

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, please let us not kid ourselves. Those of us who are overweight, active

or not, stand a greatly increased chance of heart problems, among other health

related problems. The statistics and all the studies show that. And our own

experience will most likely show it, also. How many people in their 80's and

90's do you know who are fat? I'm bettin' not a whole lot. And if not fat now

how many of them were fat when they were younger? Just doesn't happen (very

often, in any case). And it doesn't take an insurance company chart to tell if

you're overweight or not; just look! However, insurance company charts are

probably the best guide we presently have. After all, the insurance companies

bet their PROFITS on the charts being right. And they make big bucks when they

rely on those charts.

Please google " fat but fit " and read some of the latest studies that have been

done. Following is just one finding:

" Compared with normal-weight active women, the risk for developing heart disease

was 54 percent higher in overweight active women and 87 percent higher in obese

active women. By contrast, it was 88 percent higher in overweight inactive

women; and 2½ times greater in obese inactive women. " (Color emphasis mine.)

Rick

<penandpalette@...> wrote:

First off... I dispute the claim that " fit and fat " are oxymoronic

terms. Everything is relative and everyone is different. I'm

significantly overweight, yet my blood pressure without medication is

consistently below 120/80 and my blood sugar tests completely normal.

I could and will be a lot healthier with improved diet and more

exercise, but you get the idea. People don't have to conform to some

insurance company's outdated height/weight charts to be healthy.

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