moving

December 3, 2011

Exactly what Elissa says, some of the symptoms are due to infections. Healthy people do not have these problems. I denied it for many months until I saw a Lyme doctor and everything started to make sense. For a long time I thought it was just my environment.AaOn Dec 3, 2011, at 7:32 AM, Elissa wrote: I'm in U.S.We moved but still have small infestation. We opened dry cleaning by accident from other apartment and reinfested ourselves.If you move, be really careful not to bring anything with mites.We will be using the IGR in the next week or so for the first time. we don't have constant biting though.also, depending on how long you've been dealing with this, they might be attracted to you because of internal infections, mold, fungus, lyme, etc...treat those to gret rid of mites completely.On Dec 3, 2011 8:23 AM, "christine french" <karmakatmeow@...> wrote: Do the igregulators in flea sprays help Sprayed this flat with permethrin and an igregulator Bit better but obviously offending nests need taken care of Why do folk say permethrin not succesful Is it because mites arachnids not insects? Spiders died in here with the spray,they arachnids ThanksCOn Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:53 GMT Elissa wrote:>When you move, you have to prevent them from...

December 3, 2011

Thanks linda,will look into it re karma my cat

C

December 3, 2011

Hi kaz

Thanks

Sorry u n ur mum both going through this

Its awful

Thanks for tip re disinfectant

Will try

Were u able to get borax?

Where do u get sulphur soap?

So ur wee cat no afected?

Does frontline kill mites

Karma had reaction to that

As said previous post concerned givin her any more chemicals

She lump heart disease just since june n i distraught wi that then july mites n

fleas

What a horendous time

Feel for her as she nearin the end kaz n i adore her n hate how her ears hurtin

Pretty sure it mites

N she so sick n diareah for weeks after i aprayed both pesticide

Just me n her u see

Hate that cant take evil mites away

So u plan take nothing when u move

U mean nothing?

Turn up just what u wearing

Then go buy things?

Im confused what to do

Have little money

Wol throw out most furniture

But just got nee washin machin n hoover etc no throw out

But throw out bed,chest drawers fridge sofa chairs hi fi n computer as they

intricate tiny bits in them

I feel ill

Cany sleep

Head goin round n round

Good tips re wash clothes

But lying here few pinprick bites n crawling

Despair at get rid of all clothes n bedding

But csnnot go new place feel like this

N know take longtime immune system get better

I know al my socks tights shoes boots infested

Wear one pair n disinfectant helped but not enough

No point new shoes till move

Heartbrakin three new pair sheepskin boots got sales to last years

Have throw out

How will u cope moving wi nothing?

I wonder if i csn wash pladtic sheet cover n take?

Its like a horror story

Stil cant believe everyone going thru this torture really

:-(

C

On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 17:32 GMT Keogh wrote:

>Hi and everyone

>

>I'm really sorry to hear you're suffering with this problem.. I, and my mum,

who lives seperately, have been going through this for over a year now - we are

in England.

>

>We have tried lots of things including pest control treatments over the months

- the best thing we have found to keep their numbers down is dettol or savlon

disinfectant liquid, mixed with water and sprayed on walls, carpets, furniture

etc - also I put it in the washing machine and pre wash the clothes with it

before the full wash cycle - thats helped a lot. There is an ingrediant called

Benzalkonium Chloride in them that seems to kill the mites - Zoflora

disinfectant also contains this ingrediant. Ironing with lots of steam is also

very good for killing them, it makes a noticable difference.

>Sulphur soap is great too, I use it in the shower and leave it on - just dry

with a towel lightly so it doesnt come off of your body

>

>We learned so much from this site and everybody knows exactly what everyone

else is going through.

>

>I haven't posted on here for a while due being busy at work & exhausted - I

have been reading all the posts though and have decided to make an appointment

with the doctor to see if we can be tested for infections such as Lyme and

Bartonella.. It's starting to make sense that if its not gone in all this time

there may be another reason it's still here.. In us :0/

>

>I have a cat too, she's a baby still at 15 months - I use frontline on her and

she seems ok with that so far.

>

>I will be moving at the beginning of march, so I am also trying to prepare for

that as I don't want to take anything with me.. Just myself and the cat :0)

>

>Take care

>

>Kaz x

>

>________________________________

> From: christine french <karmakatmeow@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 4:47 PM

>Subject: Re: moving

>

>Good luck with that elissa!

>I dust karma already

>Ears still afected!

>What a life!

>C

>On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 16:25 GMT Elissa wrote:

>

>>Thank you.

>>

>>I think we will try Nylar.

>>

>>Others will probably have advice about your cat. Maybe dust with food

>>grade diatomaceius (sp.) Earth.

>>

>>On Dec 3, 2011 8:38 AM, " christine french " <karmakatmeow@...> wrote:

>>

>>**

>>

>>Dear ellisa

>>Glad its better in your new place though sorry u got small infestation

>>though much easier to deal with

>>Good luck with complete eradication which im sure you will manage!

>>Take it you have been through hell with this as well?

>>Which igregulator is it advisable to use for bird mites?

>>C

>>

>>On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 13:32 GMT Elissa wrote:

>>

>>>I'm in U.S.

>>>

>>>We moved but still have small i...

>>>**

>>

>>>

>>>Do the igregulators in flea sprays help

>>>Sprayed this flat with permethrin and an igregulator

>>...

>>

>

December 4, 2011

heat treating mold & pest removal On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 9:32 AM EST Keogh

wrote: >Hi > >Yes, would be great to chat on the phone. > > >I have

to go out shortly but will be back home about 5 o'clock - would you like to send

me your number and I can you then - you can send it privately to me if you wish.

> >Kaz x > > > >________________________________ > From: christine french

<karmakatmeow@...> >bird mites >Sent: Sunday,

December 4, 2011 1:03 PM >Subject: Re: moving > > > >Hi karen

>We both in uk would it be possible to talk to u by phone? >In same boat!:-( >No

matter if ud rather not >Still chat here >C > >On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 12:51 GMT

Keogh wrote: > >>Hi >> >> >>My mum really likes the dettol - she

very much notices a big reduction in crawlies after she's used it - I do too.

>> >> >>The sulphur soap I buy from ebay - it has 10% sulphur in it, costs about

£3.50 - it's not

the best smelling soap in the world, but it really calms the itching down. I

rub it all over me and dab with a towel so as not to rub it off or sometimes dry

with a hairdryer - I forgot to mention I also use head & shoulders shampoo for

my hair - that seems to help. >> >>I have used borax in the past and that was

helpful - a lot of people have had good results with borax. >> >>I really know

what your going through - when we first got this infestation, I felt absolutely

shocked and depressed - had never known anything like this - Did have cats in

the past who picked up fleas, but they were eradicated - this is something

completely different - and it is nothing to do with dirtiness - this can happen

to anyone. >> >>Have a look on the net to find out if there are natural remedies

for Karma, as they will be a lot easier on her - I don't know how she would take

to garlic in her food, but I've heard that can be good for repelling mites. >>

>>I am moving in

March, and yes hoping to move with nothing - it will be privately renting, and

may well have to be a fu

December 5, 2011

Hello ,If you have a nice GP, who is sympathetic, there is a good chance they probably won't really know how to tackle the problem. My mother was prescribed a permethrin cream & lotion (Lyclear I think it was), which she found helped & seemed to kill the mites for a day or two, but it did not stop the mites coming back; another cream was crotamiton cream (Eurax) which helped with the itching but did not seem to kill the mites. I was going to ask her GP to give her ivermectin, which is given under some circumstances, but it seemed that, at least in my mother's case, there are coinfections & is more to it than mites, thus taking ivermectin would not stop mites from the environment being attracted to her.

You may be asked to collect samples, that can be a catch 22 in itself. Unless you plainly know that the samples are, in fact, the bird mites, any sample submitted which is not a bird mite can look bad.

Unfortunately, many people have the indignity of being told they are delusional, which, in my opinion is very cruel & makes a person, already going through hell, feel even more alone.

My mother was so badly treated by her GP; I am still going through the NHS complaints procedure 8 months later.

As you have had problems with fungal infections, you may be able to persuade your GP to give you internal anti fungal tablets, such as Itraconazole especially if you have had fungal infections over a period of time.

Good luck & warm wishes,KrysOn 5 December 2011 05:01, christine french <karmakatmeow@...> wrote:

Thanks aggi

Going to use disinfectant vinegar n epsom salts in wash

N some disinfectant cleaning

Sulphur internally?

Need look into

Think need pest diagniosis officialy before doc prescribe

They want the proof

But everythin points to bird mites

Wonder if can get sulpur internaly in uk

Did u have to move?

I am moving

At some point ad had enough

But....

I will throw out al shoes socks tights

They are badly afected

Disinfectsnt boots help only a bit

Nylar didnt

But

Would buying a tumble drier help me salvage some clothing n bedding

And does dry cleaning kill bird mites?

Will throw out sofa bed etc

An hard goods wi intricate parts like old computer n fridge wi nooks n crannies

Washed virtualy everything in shower

Do i need to throw out ornaments n pictures on walls

Cud i not disinfect?

Thrown out so much already

N never wanted to move love it here

But too many holes in walls

Just cant bear to get rid o everything!!

Sorry u had years of hell

Did u get pest control diagnosis n did doc take seriously

Are u ok now?

Glad things helped you!

C

On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 23:33 GMT Aggi Assmann wrote:

>, using Dettol for cleaning, spraying, even bathing from time to time was a big turning point for me.

>Another very good remedy is using sulfur externally, but even more internally. Take max. 4000 mg of sulfur per day.

>My biggest turning point was when I started taking Itraconazole, an anti-fungal treatment. I am 99 percent better after

>2 1/2 years of living hell ! In my case these were the only things that really did work !

>

>________________________________

>Von: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

>An: bird mites

>Gesendet: 17:50 Samstag, 3.Dezember 2011

>Betreff: Re: moving

>

>Cecilia lives in Sweden and Aggi lives in Germany. They may know better what is available there as well as Kry's Mum who lives in England. I know certain chemicals here in the US are not available in stores. Possibly Nylar is available but I never tried it. I hired a company to do pest spraying and it did absolutely nothing, but now I don't know what chemicals they used. Most companies here in the US do not know what they are doing with mites. The one thing that seems successful is whole house fumigation with a giant tent, but who can afford that? Also if you live in an attached dwelling it is not possible to do. I am wondering if you could get MMS? Maybe a diluted activated spray of MMS might kill mites in your kitty's ears and on fur.

>

>________________________________

>From: " christine french " <karmakatmeow@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 8:40:22 AM

>Subject: Re: moving

>

>Thanks cecilia

>Can you purchase n spray itself without pest control involved?

>I wonder how safe it is around pets

>My cat already thru the wars with permethrin spray!:-(

>On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 16:16 GMT Cecilia Borg wrote:

>

>>Hi!

>>I think Nylar is a good choice for birdmites.

>>KR

>>Cecilia

>>

>>________________________________

>>From: christine french <karmakatmeow@...>

>>bird mites

>>Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 2:38 PM

>>Subject: Re: moving

>>

>>Dear ellisa

>>Glad its better in your new place though sorry u got small infestation though much easier to deal with

>>Good luck with complete eradication which im sure you will manage!

>>Take it you have been through hell with this as well?

>>Which igregulator is it advisable to use for bird mites?

>>C

>>On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 13:32 GMT Elissa wrote:

>>

>>>I'm in U.S.

>>>

>>>We moved but still have small infestation. We opened dry cleaning by

>>>accident from other apartment and reinfested ourselves.

>>>

>>>If you move, be really careful not to bring anything with mites.

>>>

>>>We will be using the IGR in the next week or so for the first time. we

>>>don't have constant biting though.

>>>

>>>also, depending on how long you've been dealing with this, they might be

>>>attracted to you because of internal infections, mold, fungus, lyme,

>>>etc...treat those to gret rid of mites completely.

>>>

>>>On Dec 3, 2011 8:23 AM, " christine french " <karmakatmeow@...> wrote:

>>>

>>>**

>>>

>>>Do the igregulators in flea sprays help

>>>Sprayed this flat with permethrin and an igregulator

>>>Bit better but obviously offending nests need taken care of

>>>Why do folk say permethrin not succesful

>>>Is it because mites arachnids not insects?

>>>Spiders died in here with the spray,they arachnids

>>>Thanks

>>>

>>>C

>>>On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:53 GMT Elissa wrote:

>>>

>>>>When you move, you have to prevent them from...

>>>

>>

>

>------------------------------------

>

December 5, 2011

Thanks krys

Yes pest control comin back to collect samples

Hope n pray find mites in them or landlord doc etc council might not take

seriously

Might have to declare myself homeless if cant get somewhere soon

As cant stay here them in roof!:-(

But these flats in no nice areas usualy n were i live now i love!:-(

Hows ur mum doing?

Startin wi dida n probiitics herb anti fungals

C

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 12:55 GMT Krys Brennand wrote:

>Hello ,

>If you have a nice GP, who is sympathetic, there is a good chance they

>probably won't really know how to tackle the problem.

>My mother was prescribed a permethrin cream & lotion (Lyclear I think it

>was), which she found helped & seemed to kill the mites for a day or two,

>but it did not stop the mites coming back; another cream was crotamiton

>cream (Eurax) which helped with the itching but did not seem to kill the

>mites. I was going to ask her GP to give her ivermectin, which is given

>under some circumstances, but it seemed that, at least in my mother's case,

>there are coinfections & is more to it than mites, thus taking ivermectin

>would not stop mites from the environment being attracted to her.

>

> You may be asked to collect samples, that can be a catch 22 in itself.

>Unless you plainly know that the samples are, in fact, the bird mites, any

>sample submitted which is not a bird mite can look bad. Unfortunately,

>many people have the indignity of being told they are delusional, which, in

>my opinion is very cruel & makes a person, already going through hell, feel

>even more alone.

>My mother was so badly treated by her GP; I am still going through the NHS

>complaints procedure 8 months later.

>

>As you have had problems with fungal infections, you may be able to

>persuade your GP to give you internal anti fungal tablets, such as

>Itraconazole especially if you have had fungal infections over a period of

>time.

>

>Good luck & warm wishes,

>Krys

>

>On 5 December 2011 05:01, christine french <karmakatmeow@...> wrote:

>

>>

>> Thanks aggi

>> Going to use disinfectant vinegar n epsom salts in wash

>> N some disinfectant cleaning

>> Sulphur internally?

>> Need look into

>> Think need pest diagniosis officialy before doc prescribe

>> They want the proof

>> But everythin points to bird mites

>> Wonder if can get sulpur internaly in uk

>> Did u have to move?

>> I am moving

>> At some point ad had enough

>> But....

>> I will throw out al shoes socks tights

>> They are badly afected

>> Disinfectsnt boots help only a bit

>> Nylar didnt

>> But

>> Would buying a tumble drier help me salvage some clothing n bedding

>> And does dry cleaning kill bird mites?

>> Will throw out sofa bed etc

>> An hard goods wi intricate parts like old computer n fridge wi nooks n

>> crannies

>> Washed virtualy everything in shower

>> Do i need to throw out ornaments n pictures on walls

>> Cud i not disinfect?

>> Thrown out so much already

>> N never wanted to move love it here

>> But too many holes in walls

>> Just cant bear to get rid o everything!!

>> Sorry u had years of hell

>> Did u get pest control diagnosis n did doc take seriously

>> Are u ok now?

>> Glad things helped you!

>> C

>>

>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 23:33 GMT Aggi Assmann wrote:

>>

>> >, using Dettol for cleaning, spraying, even bathing from time to

>> time was a big turning point for me.

>> >Another very good remedy is using sulfur externally, but even more

>> internally. Take max. 4000 mg of sulfur per day.

>> >My biggest turning point was when I started taking Itraconazole, an

>> anti-fungal treatment. I am 99 percent better after

>> >2 1/2 years of living hell ! In my case these were the only things that

>> really did work !

>> >

>> >________________________________

>>

>> >Von: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

>> >An: bird mites

>> >Gesendet: 17:50 Samstag, 3.Dezember 2011

>> >Betreff: Re: moving

>> >

>> >Cecilia lives in Sweden and Aggi lives in Germany. They may know better

>> what is available there as well as Kry's Mum who lives in England. I know

>> certain chemicals here in the US are not available in stores. Possibly

>> Nylar is available but I never tried it. I hired a company to do pest

>> spraying and it did absolutely nothing, but now I don't know what chemicals

>> they used. Most companies here in the US do not know what they are doing

>> with mites. The one thing that seems successful is whole house fumigation

>> with a giant tent, but who can afford that? Also if you live in an

>> attached dwelling it is not possible to do. I am wondering if you could

>> get MMS? Maybe a diluted activated spray of MMS might kill mites in your

>> kitty's ears and on fur.

>> >

>> >________________________________

>> >From: " christine french " <karmakatmeow@...>

>> >bird mites

>> >Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 8:40:22 AM

>> >Subject: Re: moving

>> >

>> >Thanks cecilia

>> >Can you purchase n spray itself without pest control involved?

>> >I wonder how safe it is around pets

>> >My cat already thru the wars with permethrin spray!:-(

>> >On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 16:16 GMT Cecilia Borg wrote:

>> >

>> >>Hi!

>> >>I think Nylar is a good choice for birdmites.

>> >>KR

>> >>Cecilia

>> >>

>> >>________________________________

>> >>From: christine french <karmakatmeow@...>

>> >>bird mites

>> >>Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 2:38 PM

>> >>Subject: Re: moving

>> >>

>> >>Dear ellisa

>> >>Glad its better in your new place though sorry u got small infestation

>> though much easier to deal with

>> >>Good luck with complete eradication which im sure you will manage!

>> >>Take it you have been through hell with this as well?

>> >>Which igregulator is it advisable to use for bird mites?

>> >>C

>> >>On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 13:32 GMT Elissa wrote:

>> >>

>> >>>I'm in U.S.

>> >>>

>> >>>We moved but still have small infestation. We opened dry cleaning by

>> >>>accident from other apartment and reinfested ourselves.

>> >>>

>> >>>If you move, be really careful not to bring anything with mites.

>> >>>

>> >>>We will be using the IGR in the next week or so for the first time. we

>> >>>don't have constant biting though.

>> >>>

>> >>>also, depending on how long you've been dealing with this, they might be

>> >>>attracted to you because of internal infections, mold, fungus, lyme,

>> >>>etc...treat those to gret rid of mites completely.

>> >>>

>> >>>On Dec 3, 2011 8:23 AM, " christine french " <karmakatmeow@...>

>> wrote:

>> >>>

>> >>>**

>> >>>

>> >>>Do the igregulators in flea sprays help

>> >>>Sprayed this flat with permethrin and an igregulator

>> >>>Bit better but obviously offending nests need taken care of

>> >>>Why do folk say permethrin not succesful

>> >>>Is it because mites arachnids not insects?

>> >>>Spiders died in here with the spray,they arachnids

>> >>>Thanks

>> >>>

>> >>>C

>> >>>On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:53 GMT Elissa wrote:

>> >>>

>> >>>>When you move, you have to prevent them from...

>> >>>

>> >>

>> >

>> >------------------------------------

>> >

December 5, 2011

You are welcome ,

Yes, sulphur capsules 1000 mg internally (pure sulphur with no additives, 2 caps

in the morning and 2 caps on the night) to make yourself untasty for the mites.

Mites do not like sulfur!

Got it online. Find the link if you are interested. Company called Kaja Health.

I did not move and kept all my belongings because I realised that I was the

source of the problems and must treat myself first and foremost as noone else

around got the mites of me.

Wasted 1 1/2 years trying to clean my environment only.

After having started the anti-fungus treatment, everything changed big time. Did

not even know that I had a fungus. Was in perfect healthy condition when the

mitemare started back in July 2009.

I do not have a tumble dryer. Washed everything hot with detergent plus Dettol

plus ironing as hot as possible.

Dry cleaning did not kill my mites !

Kept dirty clothes in a sealed container until washing.

Did not wash all my furniture, pics, decoration stuff, just did floors, walls

and ceilings with a Swifter mop.

Hoovered (bag-less Dyson!) couches and floors daily and sprayed the couch with

isopropyl alcohol 70% daily. Sprinkled DE on the mattress everytime I changed

sheets. Daily in the beginning, once a week now.

Been to 4 dermatologists, they only treated the bites, stating " we are no pest

controllers " . Had 4 different pest control companies working for me. They

fumigated the offices where it all started with bird's nest on the roof 4 times

using Permethrin. Did not do anything. Fumigated my car... no difference !! Did

not waste my money on them in my home after that. Kept reading this forum and

learnt everyday. These guys have saved my life !!

I am not completely mite-free, but am enjoying an almost normal life again. It

is possible ! Keep the faith and stay in touch with us.

We're all here to help with pleasure !

> >>>

> >>>>When you move, you have to prevent them from...

> >>>

> >>

> >

> >------------------------------------

> >

December 5, 2011

Aggi- Glad to hear you are enjoying life again. What are doing to treat internally besides the sulfur capsules?

From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 5:22 PMSubject: Re: moving

You are welcome , Yes, sulphur capsules 1000 mg internally (pure sulphur with no additives, 2 caps in the morning and 2 caps on the night) to make yourself untasty for the mites. Mites do not like sulfur!Got it online. Find the link if you are interested. Company called Kaja Health.I did not move and kept all my belongings because I realised that I was the source of the problems and must treat myself first and foremost as noone else around got the mites of me.Wasted 1 1/2 years trying to clean my environment only.After having started the anti-fungus treatment, everything changed big time. Did not even know that I had a fungus. Was in perfect healthy condition when the mitemare started back in July 2009.I do not have a tumble dryer. Washed everything hot with detergent plus Dettol plus ironing as hot as possible.Dry cleaning did not kill my mites ! Kept dirty clothes in a sealed container until washing.Did

not wash all my furniture, pics, decoration stuff, just did floors, walls and ceilings with a Swifter mop.Hoovered (bag-less Dyson!) couches and floors daily and sprayed the couch with isopropyl alcohol 70% daily. Sprinkled DE on the mattress everytime I changed sheets. Daily in the beginning, once a week now.Been to 4 dermatologists, they only treated the bites, stating "we are no pest controllers". Had 4 different pest control companies working for me. They fumigated the offices where it all started with bird's nest on the roof 4 times using Permethrin. Did not do anything. Fumigated my car... no difference !! Did not waste my money on them in my home after that. Kept reading this forum and learnt everyday. These guys have saved my life !!I am not completely mite-free, but am enjoying an almost normal life again. It is possible ! Keep the faith and stay in touch with us.We're all here to help with pleasure !> >>>>

>>>>When you move, you have to prevent them from...> >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> >------------------------------------> >> >

December 6, 2011

HI!, I donÂ´t know about UK, but in Sweden we couldnÂ´t buy it ourselves and the pestcontrol compandy only had it til december 2010, cause it was not allowed after that. Probably different in UK?Good luckCecilia From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...> bird mites Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011

5:50 PM Subject: Re: moving

Cecilia lives in Sweden and Aggi lives in Germany. They may know better what is available there as well as Kry's Mum who lives in England. I know certain chemicals here in the US are not available in stores. Possibly Nylar is available but I never tried it. I hired a company to do pest spraying and it did absolutely nothing, but now I don't know what chemicals they used. Most companies here in the US do not know what they are doing with mites. The one thing that seems successful is whole house fumigation with a giant tent, but who can afford that? Also if you live in an attached dwelling it is not possible to do. I am wondering if you could get MMS? Maybe a diluted activated spray of MMS might kill mites in your kitty's ears and on fur.From: "christine

french" <karmakatmeow@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 8:40:22 AMSubject: Re: movingThanks ceciliaCan you purchase n spray itself without pest control involved?I wonder how safe it is around petsMy cat already thru the wars with permethrin spray!:-(On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 16:16 GMT Cecilia Borg wrote:>Hi!>I think Nylar is a good choice for birdmites.>KR>Cecilia>>>________________________________>From: christine french <karmakatmeow@...>>bird mites >Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 2:38 PM>Subject: Re: moving>>> >Dear ellisa>Glad its better in your new place though sorry u got small infestation though much easier to deal with>Good luck with complete eradication

which im sure you will manage!>Take it you have been through hell with this as well?>Which igregulator is it advisable to use for bird mites?>C>On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 13:32 GMT Elissa wrote:>>>I'm in U.S.>>>>We moved but still have small infestation. We opened dry cleaning by>>accident from other apartment and reinfested ourselves.>>>>If you move, be really careful not to bring anything with mites.>>>>We will be using the IGR in the next week or so for the first time. we>>don't have constant biting though.>>>>also, depending on how long you've been dealing with this, they might be>>attracted to you because of internal infections, mold, fungus, lyme,>>etc...treat those to gret rid of mites completely.>>>>On Dec 3, 2011 8:23 AM, "christine french"

<karmakatmeow@...> wrote:>>>>**>>>>>>Do the igregulators in flea sprays help>>Sprayed this flat with permethrin and an igregulator>>Bit better but obviously offending nests need taken care of>>Why do folk say permethrin not succesful>>Is it because mites arachnids not insects?>>Spiders died in here with the spray,they arachnids>>Thanks>>>>>>C>>On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:53 GMT Elissa wrote:>>>>>When you move, you have to prevent them from...>> >>------------------------------------

December 6, 2011

Hi Linds, I am not even taking the sulfur caps any longer. The only med I am taking for 2 months now is the anti-fungal, called Itraconazole 100 mg caps. I take one cap in the morning and one on the night. The mites do get less and less interested in me since, I am making continious improvement, so for me I definitely have a fungus in my body. I will keep taking it until I feel completely mite-free.

Von: Linds J <lj_mom11@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 1:30 Dienstag, 6.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Re: moving

Aggi- Glad to hear you are enjoying life again. What are doing to treat internally besides the sulfur capsules?

From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 5:22 PMSubject: Re: moving

You are welcome , Yes, sulphur capsules 1000 mg internally (pure sulphur with no additives, 2 caps in the morning and 2 caps on the night) to make yourself untasty for the mites. Mites do not like sulfur!Got it online. Find the link if you are interested. Company called Kaja Health.I did not move and kept all my belongings because I realised that I was the source of the problems and must treat myself first and foremost as noone else around got the mites of me.Wasted 1 1/2 years trying to clean my environment only.After having started the anti-fungus treatment, everything changed big time. Did not even know that I had a fungus. Was in perfect healthy condition when the mitemare started back in July 2009.I do not have a tumble dryer. Washed everything hot with detergent plus Dettol plus ironing as hot as possible.Dry cleaning did not kill my mites ! Kept dirty clothes in a sealed container until washing.Did

not wash all my furniture, pics, decoration stuff, just did floors, walls and ceilings with a Swifter mop.Hoovered (bag-less Dyson!) couches and floors daily and sprayed the couch with isopropyl alcohol 70% daily. Sprinkled DE on the mattress everytime I changed sheets. Daily in the beginning, once a week now.Been to 4 dermatologists, they only treated the bites, stating "we are no pest controllers". Had 4 different pest control companies working for me. They fumigated the offices where it all started with bird's nest on the roof 4 times using Permethrin. Did not do anything. Fumigated my car... no difference !! Did not waste my money on them in my home after that. Kept reading this forum and learnt everyday. These guys have saved my life !!I am not completely mite-free, but am enjoying an almost normal life again. It is possible ! Keep the faith and stay in touch with us.We're all here to help with pleasure !> >>>>

>>>>When you move, you have to prevent them from...> >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> >------------------------------------> >> >

December 6, 2011

Forgot to mention that I also took antibiotics for 1 months in between the 2 Itraconazole treatments.

Von: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 22:01 Dienstag, 6.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Re: moving

Hi Linds, I am not even taking the sulfur caps any longer. The only med I am taking for 2 months now is the anti-fungal, called Itraconazole 100 mg caps. I take one cap in the morning and one on the night. The mites do get less and less interested in me since, I am making continious improvement, so for me I definitely have a fungus in my body. I will keep taking it until I feel completely mite-free.

Von: Linds J <lj_mom11@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 1:30 Dienstag, 6.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Re: moving

Aggi- Glad to hear you are enjoying life again. What are doing to treat internally besides the sulfur capsules?

From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 5:22 PMSubject: Re: moving

You are welcome , Yes, sulphur capsules 1000 mg internally (pure sulphur with no additives, 2 caps in the morning and 2 caps on the night) to make yourself untasty for the mites. Mites do not like sulfur!Got it online. Find the link if you are interested. Company called Kaja Health.I did not move and kept all my belongings because I realised that I was the source of the problems and must treat myself first and foremost as noone else around got the mites of me.Wasted 1 1/2 years trying to clean my environment only.After having started the anti-fungus treatment, everything changed big time. Did not even know that I had a fungus. Was in perfect healthy condition when the mitemare started back in July 2009.I do not have a tumble dryer. Washed everything hot with detergent plus Dettol plus ironing as hot as possible.Dry cleaning did not kill my mites ! Kept dirty clothes in a sealed container until washing.Did

not wash all my furniture, pics, decoration stuff, just did floors, walls and ceilings with a Swifter mop.Hoovered (bag-less Dyson!) couches and floors daily and sprayed the couch with isopropyl alcohol 70% daily. Sprinkled DE on the mattress everytime I changed sheets. Daily in the beginning, once a week now.Been to 4 dermatologists, they only treated the bites, stating "we are no pest controllers". Had 4 different pest control companies working for me. They fumigated the offices where it all started with bird's nest on the roof 4 times using Permethrin. Did not do anything. Fumigated my car... no difference !! Did not waste my money on them in my home after that. Kept reading this forum and learnt everyday. These guys have saved my life !!I am not completely mite-free, but am enjoying an almost normal life again. It is possible ! Keep the faith and stay in touch with us.We're all here to help with pleasure !> >>>>

>>>>When you move, you have to prevent them from...> >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> >------------------------------------> >> >

December 6, 2011

Aggi-Just so you know- Itraconazole also acts against certain bacterial infections- Lyme spirochetes being one of them. -per Dr. KlinghardtAaOn Dec 6, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Hi Linds, I am not even taking the sulfur caps any longer. The only med I am taking for 2 months now is the anti-fungal, called Itraconazole 100 mg caps. I take one cap in the morning and one on the night. The mites do get less and less interested in me since, I am making continious improvement, so for me I definitely have a fungus in my body. I will keep taking it until I feel completely mite-free.

Von: Linds J <lj_mom11@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 1:30 Dienstag, 6.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Re: moving

Aggi- Glad to hear you are enjoying life again. What are doing to treat internally besides the sulfur capsules?

From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 5:22 PMSubject: Re: moving

You are welcome , Yes, sulphur capsules 1000 mg internally (pure sulphur with no additives, 2 caps in the morning and 2 caps on the night) to make yourself untasty for the mites. Mites do not like sulfur!Got it online. Find the link if you are interested. Company called Kaja Health.I did not move and kept all my belongings because I realised that I was the source of the problems and must treat myself first and foremost as noone else around got the mites of me.Wasted 1 1/2 years trying to clean my environment only.After having started the anti-fungus treatment, everything changed big time. Did not even know that I had a fungus. Was in perfect healthy condition when the mitemare started back in July 2009.I do not have a tumble dryer. Washed everything hot with detergent plus Dettol plus ironing as hot as possible.Dry cleaning did not kill my mites ! Kept dirty clothes in a sealed container until washing.Did

not wash all my furniture, pics, decoration stuff, just did floors, walls and ceilings with a Swifter mop.Hoovered (bag-less Dyson!) couches and floors daily and sprayed the couch with isopropyl alcohol 70% daily. Sprinkled DE on the mattress everytime I changed sheets. Daily in the beginning, once a week now.Been to 4 dermatologists, they only treated the bites, stating "we are no pest controllers". Had 4 different pest control companies working for me. They fumigated the offices where it all started with bird's nest on the roof 4 times using Permethrin. Did not do anything. Fumigated my car... no difference !! Did not waste my money on them in my home after that. Kept reading this forum and learnt everyday. These guys have saved my life !!I am not completely mite-free, but am enjoying an almost normal life again. It is possible ! Keep the faith and stay in touch with us.We're all here to help with pleasure !> >>>>

>>>>When you move, you have to prevent them from...> >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> >------------------------------------> >> >

December 6, 2011

Aggi, I think I need to be on that one too. I've been on Candex, an over the counter fungal and I have noticed a decrease in any sensations. Itraconazole would probably do even better. However, my liver enzymes are getting higher and higher and I think my doctor wants me to go off all meds and maybe even supplemets for a while to let liver rest and recuperate. I wonder if Candex is available in GB for ? From: "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2011 1:01:30 PMSubject: Re: Re: moving

Hi Linds, I am not even taking the sulfur caps any longer. The only med I am taking for 2 months now is the anti-fungal, called Itraconazole 100 mg caps. I take one cap in the morning and one on the night. The mites do get less and less interested in me since, I am making continious improvement, so for me I definitely have a fungus in my body. I will keep taking it until I feel completely mite-free.

Von: Linds J <lj_mom11@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 1:30 Dienstag, 6.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Re: moving

Aggi- Glad to hear you are enjoying life again. What are doing to treat internally besides the sulfur capsules?

From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 5:22 PMSubject: Re: moving

You are welcome , Yes, sulphur capsules 1000 mg internally (pure sulphur with no additives, 2 caps in the morning and 2 caps on the night) to make yourself untasty for the mites. Mites do not like sulfur!Got it online. Find the link if you are interested. Company called Kaja Health.I did not move and kept all my belongings because I realised that I was the source of the problems and must treat myself first and foremost as noone else around got the mites of me.Wasted 1 1/2 years trying to clean my environment only.After having started the anti-fungus treatment, everything changed big time. Did not even know that I had a fungus. Was in perfect healthy condition when the mitemare started back in July 2009.I do not have a tumble dryer. Washed everything hot with detergent plus Dettol plus ironing as hot as possible.Dry cleaning did not kill my mites ! Kept dirty clothes in a sealed container until washing.Did

not wash all my furniture, pics, decoration stuff, just did floors, walls and ceilings with a Swifter mop.Hoovered (bag-less Dyson!) couches and floors daily and sprayed the couch with isopropyl alcohol 70% daily. Sprinkled DE on the mattress everytime I changed sheets. Daily in the beginning, once a week now.Been to 4 dermatologists, they only treated the bites, stating "we are no pest controllers". Had 4 different pest control companies working for me. They fumigated the offices where it all started with bird's nest on the roof 4 times using Permethrin. Did not do anything. Fumigated my car... no difference !! Did not waste my money on them in my home after that. Kept reading this forum and learnt everyday. These guys have saved my life !!I am not completely mite-free, but am enjoying an almost normal life again. It is possible ! Keep the faith and stay in touch with us.We're all here to help with pleasure !> >>>>

>>>>When you move, you have to prevent them from...> >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> >------------------------------------> >> >

December 6, 2011

-Many times Lyme itself will cause those fluctuations in liver enzymes, not necessarily the meds. AaOn Dec 6, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: