Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

[Guest guest]

The person, sitting in the office where I got attacked in the first place, never had any problems there at all.

I have asked the cleaning staff. Nevertheless, the mites in that office moved with me to my new one. Gradually, the new office got infested same as the previous one. They were in every file and stack of paper I brought with me. I am dreaming of a paper-less office now. It is not that I am being attacked by biting mites much. It is just that weird feeling in my hair and it usually starts in the afternoon. I just feel like shaking my hair non-stop.

Von: Aandraya <aandraya@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 4:07 Mittwoch, 23.November 2011Betreff: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

Very interesting. I'd like to return to my old apt and see if the next tenants have any issues. Still, I moved and they went with me and it got worse at my second apartment. Then I moved to my parents with no belongings and they wen with me.

Aandraya

On Nov 22, 2011, at 8:28 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Oh, interesting . So the man before you may have had birdmites too!

From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:25:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

Hello JK,

When they attack me, I take a large bath with a cup of Lysol Complete Clean. (Be sure and go under the water with a straw, snorkle, or turkey baster and comb hair thouroghly.) Kills anything on my body. Then I cover in olive oil from head to toe for the night. Get a garden sprayer and spray ceilings, and walls with 1 cup Lysol to the gallon. I even shampoo my rugs with the Lysol. At one time, I had something more than just mites getting in my hair. Bathes alone would do nothing. So I disolved a doxy pill in water and massaged into my scalp for 2 weeks and it stopped. The only time I feel crawling on my head is, like recently, some bugs came into my apartment. I take a Lysol bath and it stops. I'm on internals for fungus and bacteria. Once had about 200 lesions on my body. My body looks pretty good now, but I must still be dealing with it as these bugs still like

me. I think I need to move. These definately are coming from outside through my sunroom door. I can't see staying if it means I'll have to fight a new invasion every spring and fall. I should have known it was a red flag when my apartment manager told me the man who live in the apartment before me was breaking the lease and was weird. I've learned weird means birdmites.

Hope to hear you are doing better soon Jk .

Love and light,

I t

From: jk1776 <jk1776@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:32 AMSubject: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

I did see 1 on ceiling, but I know there must be hundreds. I left some pants and sweatshirt out one day. The next day, I wore them and i could feel so many of them crawling on me. I dont see them in my hair. I do not have anyone to check for me though. I feel them in my hair many times in the day. I don't think I have any internal infections. I WAS healthy, I worked out and everything was fine, until I started getting bit each night. I thought it was bed bugs, but realized that these creatures are worse! It has gotten worse each day since. > > > Hi All.> >> > I am just now realizing that I probably have bird mites. I do not > > have a wife or gf, or family close by. I noticed that many people > > posting do and it make a world of difference. I am desperate and > > moving towards full blown depression, and thought I would join this > > group for help. I guess I have basic questions which seem so > > obvious, and I hope not ridiculous.> >> > 1. I can not get them out of my hair? I have tried vinegar, tar > > shampoo, Rid, listerine, tee tree oil? Does any one have a proven > > way to get these out?> >> > 2. I

can't get my clothes clean? I am currently washing with > > ammonia, and borax, and hot dryer for 90 minutes?> >> > 3. Does anyone ever get rid of these things? I noticed some success > > stories, but it seems hit or miss? I recently renewed my lease, of > > course, and now I am stuck here until late 2012. I can not wait that > > long with this nightmare? I am thinking of moving temporarily.> >> > 4. Does any exterminator treatment work? I thought i had samples of > > red mites, but the exterminator said it was nothing. They are not > > experienced with mites, so i think they were wrong - seriously.> >> > Thank you for any responses? I am truly depressed by this nightmare?> >> > Help.> >> > Thank you> >>

>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Andraya,

Thing is, I don't get the streak marks or most of the symptoms I read about with Bartonella. Now, I do seem to match to Babesia somewhat better. My doctor did test for and find that the herpes 1 virus is extremely active and thus causing herpetic dermatitis. I started to take the acyclover last January and noticed immediate improvements., The Intraconazole brought me another 1/3 of the way, and finally, the Bactrim seems to be taking me to the home strech. Along with hertzing toxins, I still have a few very small areas, about the size of my thumb, here and yong on my body that is pushing out fungus mycileum with nodguals. I can tell the difference as the latter is always connected with a web like string between the balls. Get one ball and they all start coming up. Try to get them up before they root. On rare

occasions, I miss one and it roots. Litterly dig it out with my nails. Now this fungus is different from the black stuff that comes from my veins. When it surfaces, I roll the black stuff off. Any part of this sound familar to you?

Love and light,

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:02 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

-

If you had that many lesions for sure you have Bartonella. Plus you have the weird vein symptoms. Are you taking Bactrim? I don't remember. I just added Bactrim back into my abx cocktail and started herxing after the second dose. Doxy, Bactrim, and the Itraconazole is good. Also, take a good probiotic away from abxs at bedtime.

Aandraya

On Nov 22, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

Hello JK,

When they attack me, I take a large bath with a cup of Lysol Complete Clean. (Be sure and go under the water with a straw, snorkle, or turkey baster and comb hair thouroghly.) Kills anything on my body. Then I cover in olive oil from head to toe for the night. Get a garden sprayer and spray ceilings, and walls with 1 cup Lysol to the gallon. I even shampoo my rugs with the Lysol. At one time, I had something more than just mites getting in my hair. Bathes alone would do nothing. So I disolved a doxy pill in water and massaged into my scalp for 2 weeks and it stopped. The only time I feel crawling on my head is, like recently, some bugs came into my apartment. I take a Lysol bath and it stops. I'm on internals for fungus and bacteria. Once had about 200 lesions on my body. My body looks pretty good now, but I must still be dealing with it as these bugs still like

me. I think I need to move. These definately are coming from outside through my sunroom door. I can't see staying if it means I'll have to fight a new invasion every spring and fall. I should have known it was a red flag when my apartment manager told me the man who live in the apartment before me was breaking the lease and was weird. I've learned weird means birdmites.

Hope to hear you are doing better soon Jk .

Love and light,

I t

From: jk1776 <jk1776@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:32 AMSubject: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

I did see 1 on ceiling, but I know there must be hundreds. I left some pants and sweatshirt out one day. The next day, I wore them and i could feel so many of them crawling on me. I dont see them in my hair. I do not have anyone to check for me though. I feel them in my hair many times in the day. I don't think I have any internal infections. I WAS healthy, I worked out and everything was fine, until I started getting bit each night. I thought it was bed bugs, but realized that these creatures are worse! It has gotten worse each day since. > > > Hi All.> >> > I am just now realizing that I probably have bird mites. I do not > > have a wife or gf, or family close by. I noticed that many people > > posting do and it make a world of difference. I am desperate and > > moving towards full blown depression, and thought I would join this > > group for help. I guess I have basic questions which seem so > > obvious, and I hope not ridiculous.> >> > 1. I can not get them out of my hair? I have tried vinegar, tar > > shampoo,

Rid, listerine, tee tree oil? Does any one have a proven > > way to get these out?> >> > 2. I can't get my clothes clean? I am currently washing with > > ammonia, and borax, and hot dryer for 90 minutes?> >> > 3. Does anyone ever get rid of these things? I noticed some success > > stories, but it seems hit or miss? I recently renewed my lease, of > > course, and now I am stuck here until late 2012. I can not wait that > > long with this nightmare? I am thinking of moving temporarily.> >> > 4. Does any exterminator treatment work? I thought i had samples of > > red mites, but the exterminator said it was nothing. They are not > > experienced with mites, so i think they were wrong - seriously.> >> > Thank you for any responses? I am truly depressed by this nightmare?> >> > Help.>

>> > Thank you> >> >>

[Guest guest]

When the movement in my hair was that bad, I shaved my head. I could feel webbing all over it. It took me 3 hours to rub it all off. It was the fungsus

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:06 AMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

The person, sitting in the office where I got attacked in the first place, never had any problems there at all.

I have asked the cleaning staff. Nevertheless, the mites in that office moved with me to my new one. Gradually, the new office got infested same as the previous one. They were in every file and stack of paper I brought with me. I am dreaming of a paper-less office now. It is not that I am being attacked by biting mites much. It is just that weird feeling in my hair and it usually starts in the afternoon. I just feel like shaking my hair non-stop.

Von: Aandraya <aandraya@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 4:07 Mittwoch, 23.November 2011Betreff: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

Very interesting. I'd like to return to my old apt and see if the next tenants have any issues. Still, I moved and they went with me and it got worse at my second apartment. Then I moved to my parents with no belongings and they wen with me.

Aandraya

On Nov 22, 2011, at 8:28 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Oh, interesting . So the man before you may have had birdmites too!

From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:25:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

Hello JK,

When they attack me, I take a large bath with a cup of Lysol Complete Clean. (Be sure and go under the water with a straw, snorkle, or turkey baster and comb hair thouroghly.) Kills anything on my body. Then I cover in olive oil from head to toe for the night. Get a garden sprayer and spray ceilings, and walls with 1 cup Lysol to the gallon. I even shampoo my rugs with the Lysol. At one time, I had something more than just mites getting in my hair. Bathes alone would do nothing. So I disolved a doxy pill in water and massaged into my scalp for 2 weeks and it stopped. The only time I feel crawling on my head is, like recently, some bugs came into my apartment. I take a Lysol bath and it stops. I'm on internals for fungus and bacteria. Once had about 200 lesions on my body. My body looks pretty good now, but I must still be dealing with it as these bugs still like

me. I think I need to move. These definately are coming from outside through my sunroom door. I can't see staying if it means I'll have to fight a new invasion every spring and fall. I should have known it was a red flag when my apartment manager told me the man who live in the apartment before me was breaking the lease and was weird. I've learned weird means birdmites.

Hope to hear you are doing better soon Jk .

Love and light,

I t

From: jk1776 <jk1776@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:32 AMSubject: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

I did see 1 on ceiling, but I know there must be hundreds. I left some pants and sweatshirt out one day. The next day, I wore them and i could feel so many of them crawling on me. I dont see them in my hair. I do not have anyone to check for me though. I feel them in my hair many times in the day. I don't think I have any internal infections. I WAS healthy, I worked out and everything was fine, until I started getting bit each night. I thought it was bed bugs, but realized that these creatures are worse! It has gotten worse each day since. > > > Hi All.> >> > I am just now realizing that I probably have bird mites. I do not > > have a wife or gf, or family close by. I noticed that many people > > posting do and it make a world of difference. I am desperate and > > moving towards full blown depression, and thought I would join this > > group for help. I guess I have basic questions which seem so > > obvious, and I hope not ridiculous.> >> > 1. I can not get them out of my hair? I have tried vinegar, tar > > shampoo, Rid, listerine, tee tree oil? Does any one have a proven > > way to get these out?> >> > 2. I

can't get my clothes clean? I am currently washing with > > ammonia, and borax, and hot dryer for 90 minutes?> >> > 3. Does anyone ever get rid of these things? I noticed some success > > stories, but it seems hit or miss? I recently renewed my lease, of > > course, and now I am stuck here until late 2012. I can not wait that > > long with this nightmare? I am thinking of moving temporarily.> >> > 4. Does any exterminator treatment work? I thought i had samples of > > red mites, but the exterminator said it was nothing. They are not > > experienced with mites, so i think they were wrong - seriously.> >> > Thank you for any responses? I am truly depressed by this nightmare?> >> > Help.> >> > Thank you> >>

>>

[Guest guest]

Yeah, webbing seems the correct word to describe that feeling ! Don't think my employer would appreciate me turning up bold headed, neither would I ;-)

No other alternatives ?

Happy Thanksgiving ! It usually takes place on the last Thursday in November. Is that a German explaining to an all American girl ? :-))

Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 18:37 Mittwoch, 23.November 2011Betreff: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

When the movement in my hair was that bad, I shaved my head. I could feel webbing all over it. It took me 3 hours to rub it all off. It was the fungsus

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:06 AMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

The person, sitting in the office where I got attacked in the first place, never had any problems there at all.

I have asked the cleaning staff. Nevertheless, the mites in that office moved with me to my new one. Gradually, the new office got infested same as the previous one. They were in every file and stack of paper I brought with me. I am dreaming of a paper-less office now. It is not that I am being attacked by biting mites much. It is just that weird feeling in my hair and it usually starts in the afternoon. I just feel like shaking my hair non-stop.

Von: Aandraya <aandraya@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 4:07 Mittwoch, 23.November 2011Betreff: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

Very interesting. I'd like to return to my old apt and see if the next tenants have any issues. Still, I moved and they went with me and it got worse at my second apartment. Then I moved to my parents with no belongings and they wen with me.

Aandraya

On Nov 22, 2011, at 8:28 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Oh, interesting . So the man before you may have had birdmites too!

From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:25:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

Hello JK,

When they attack me, I take a large bath with a cup of Lysol Complete Clean. (Be sure and go under the water with a straw, snorkle, or turkey baster and comb hair thouroghly.) Kills anything on my body. Then I cover in olive oil from head to toe for the night. Get a garden sprayer and spray ceilings, and walls with 1 cup Lysol to the gallon. I even shampoo my rugs with the Lysol. At one time, I had something more than just mites getting in my hair. Bathes alone would do nothing. So I disolved a doxy pill in water and massaged into my scalp for 2 weeks and it stopped. The only time I feel crawling on my head is, like recently, some bugs came into my apartment. I take a Lysol bath and it stops. I'm on internals for fungus and bacteria. Once had about 200 lesions on my body. My body looks pretty good now, but I must still be dealing with it as these bugs still like

me. I think I need to move. These definately are coming from outside through my sunroom door. I can't see staying if it means I'll have to fight a new invasion every spring and fall. I should have known it was a red flag when my apartment manager told me the man who live in the apartment before me was breaking the lease and was weird. I've learned weird means birdmites.

Hope to hear you are doing better soon Jk .

Love and light,

I t

From: jk1776 <jk1776@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:32 AMSubject: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

I did see 1 on ceiling, but I know there must be hundreds. I left some pants and sweatshirt out one day. The next day, I wore them and i could feel so many of them crawling on me. I dont see them in my hair. I do not have anyone to check for me though. I feel them in my hair many times in the day. I don't think I have any internal infections. I WAS healthy, I worked out and everything was fine, until I started getting bit each night. I thought it was bed bugs, but realized that these creatures are worse! It has gotten worse each day since. > > > Hi All.> >> > I am just now realizing that I probably have bird mites. I do not > > have a wife or gf, or family close by. I noticed that many people > > posting do and it make a world of difference. I am desperate and > > moving towards full blown depression, and thought I would join this > > group for help. I guess I have basic questions which seem so > > obvious, and I hope not ridiculous.> >> > 1. I can not get them out of my hair? I have tried vinegar, tar > > shampoo, Rid, listerine, tee tree oil? Does any one have a proven > > way to get these out?> >> > 2. I

can't get my clothes clean? I am currently washing with > > ammonia, and borax, and hot dryer for 90 minutes?> >> > 3. Does anyone ever get rid of these things? I noticed some success > > stories, but it seems hit or miss? I recently renewed my lease, of > > course, and now I am stuck here until late 2012. I can not wait that > > long with this nightmare? I am thinking of moving temporarily.> >> > 4. Does any exterminator treatment work? I thought i had samples of > > red mites, but the exterminator said it was nothing. They are not > > experienced with mites, so i think they were wrong - seriously.> >> > Thank you for any responses? I am truly depressed by this nightmare?> >> > Help.> >> > Thank you> >>

>>

[Guest guest]

Yes, it is Aggi:) My best friend Britta is german. She'll tell you she must keep me up to date on the holidays as I don't observe any of them. They're too commercial for me.

Well, I still had it after I let my hair grow back. Didn't find out about the fungus until much later. The doxy stopped the (protozoa?) on my head. The bathes take care of the mites. I combed the fungus out under the water. Could be you just haven't been on the anti fungal long enough.

Love and light,

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:48 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

Yeah, webbing seems the correct word to describe that feeling ! Don't think my employer would appreciate me turning up bold headed, neither would I ;-)

No other alternatives ?

Happy Thanksgiving ! It usually takes place on the last Thursday in November. Is that a German explaining to an all American girl ? :-))

Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 18:37 Mittwoch, 23.November 2011Betreff: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

When the movement in my hair was that bad, I shaved my head. I could feel webbing all over it. It took me 3 hours to rub it all off. It was the fungsus

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:06 AMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

The person, sitting in the office where I got attacked in the first place, never had any problems there at all.

I have asked the cleaning staff. Nevertheless, the mites in that office moved with me to my new one. Gradually, the new office got infested same as the previous one. They were in every file and stack of paper I brought with me. I am dreaming of a paper-less office now. It is not that I am being attacked by biting mites much. It is just that weird feeling in my hair and it usually starts in the afternoon. I just feel like shaking my hair non-stop.

Von: Aandraya <aandraya@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 4:07 Mittwoch, 23.November 2011Betreff: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

Very interesting. I'd like to return to my old apt and see if the next tenants have any issues. Still, I moved and they went with me and it got worse at my second apartment. Then I moved to my parents with no belongings and they wen with me.

Aandraya

On Nov 22, 2011, at 8:28 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Oh, interesting . So the man before you may have had birdmites too!

From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:25:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

Hello JK,

When they attack me, I take a large bath with a cup of Lysol Complete Clean. (Be sure and go under the water with a straw, snorkle, or turkey baster and comb hair thouroghly.) Kills anything on my body. Then I cover in olive oil from head to toe for the night. Get a garden sprayer and spray ceilings, and walls with 1 cup Lysol to the gallon. I even shampoo my rugs with the Lysol. At one time, I had something more than just mites getting in my hair. Bathes alone would do nothing. So I disolved a doxy pill in water and massaged into my scalp for 2 weeks and it stopped. The only time I feel crawling on my head is, like recently, some bugs came into my apartment. I take a Lysol bath and it stops. I'm on internals for fungus and bacteria. Once had about 200 lesions on my body. My body looks pretty good now, but I must still be dealing with it as these bugs still like

me. I think I need to move. These definately are coming from outside through my sunroom door. I can't see staying if it means I'll have to fight a new invasion every spring and fall. I should have known it was a red flag when my apartment manager told me the man who live in the apartment before me was breaking the lease and was weird. I've learned weird means birdmites.

Hope to hear you are doing better soon Jk .

Love and light,

I t

From: jk1776 <jk1776@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:32 AMSubject: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

I did see 1 on ceiling, but I know there must be hundreds. I left some pants and sweatshirt out one day. The next day, I wore them and i could feel so many of them crawling on me. I dont see them in my hair. I do not have anyone to check for me though. I feel them in my hair many times in the day. I don't think I have any internal infections. I WAS healthy, I worked out and everything was fine, until I started getting bit each night. I thought it was bed bugs, but realized that these creatures are worse! It has gotten worse each day since. > > > Hi All.> >> > I am just now realizing that I probably have bird mites. I do not > > have a wife or gf, or family close by. I noticed that many people > > posting do and it make a world of difference. I am desperate and > > moving towards full blown depression, and thought I would join this > > group for help. I guess I have basic questions which seem so > > obvious, and I hope not ridiculous.> >> > 1. I can not get them out of my hair? I have tried vinegar, tar > > shampoo, Rid, listerine, tee tree oil? Does any one have a proven > > way to get these out?> >> > 2. I

can't get my clothes clean? I am currently washing with > > ammonia, and borax, and hot dryer for 90 minutes?> >> > 3. Does anyone ever get rid of these things? I noticed some success > > stories, but it seems hit or miss? I recently renewed my lease, of > > course, and now I am stuck here until late 2012. I can not wait that > > long with this nightmare? I am thinking of moving temporarily.> >> > 4. Does any exterminator treatment work? I thought i had samples of > > red mites, but the exterminator said it was nothing. They are not > > experienced with mites, so i think they were wrong - seriously.> >> > Thank you for any responses? I am truly depressed by this nightmare?> >> > Help.> >> > Thank you> >>

>>

[Guest guest]

-What kind of reaction did people have when you shaved your head?When I had this I noticed the texture of my hair was different. I suspected piedra blanca, a fungal infection of the hair shaft. I used antifungal shampoos and always blew my hair very dry. I don't know if the shampoos helped much though. Aandraya On Nov 23, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

Yes, it is Aggi:) My best friend Britta is german. She'll tell you she must keep me up to date on the holidays as I don't observe any of them. They're too commercial for me.

Well, I still had it after I let my hair grow back. Didn't find out about the fungus until much later. The doxy stopped the (protozoa?) on my head. The bathes take care of the mites. I combed the fungus out under the water. Could be you just haven't been on the anti fungal long enough.

Love and light,

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:48 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

Yeah, webbing seems the correct word to describe that feeling ! Don't think my employer would appreciate me turning up bold headed, neither would I ;-)

No other alternatives ?

Happy Thanksgiving ! It usually takes place on the last Thursday in November. Is that a German explaining to an all American girl ? :-))

Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 18:37 Mittwoch, 23.November 2011Betreff: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

When the movement in my hair was that bad, I shaved my head. I could feel webbing all over it. It took me 3 hours to rub it all off. It was the fungsus

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:06 AMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

The person, sitting in the office where I got attacked in the first place, never had any problems there at all.

I have asked the cleaning staff. Nevertheless, the mites in that office moved with me to my new one. Gradually, the new office got infested same as the previous one. They were in every file and stack of paper I brought with me. I am dreaming of a paper-less office now. It is not that I am being attacked by biting mites much. It is just that weird feeling in my hair and it usually starts in the afternoon. I just feel like shaking my hair non-stop.

Von: Aandraya <aandraya@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 4:07 Mittwoch, 23.November 2011Betreff: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

Very interesting. I'd like to return to my old apt and see if the next tenants have any issues. Still, I moved and they went with me and it got worse at my second apartment. Then I moved to my parents with no belongings and they wen with me.

Aandraya

On Nov 22, 2011, at 8:28 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Oh, interesting . So the man before you may have had birdmites too!

From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:25:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

Hello JK,

When they attack me, I take a large bath with a cup of Lysol Complete Clean. (Be sure and go under the water with a straw, snorkle, or turkey baster and comb hair thouroghly.) Kills anything on my body. Then I cover in olive oil from head to toe for the night. Get a garden sprayer and spray ceilings, and walls with 1 cup Lysol to the gallon. I even shampoo my rugs with the Lysol. At one time, I had something more than just mites getting in my hair. Bathes alone would do nothing. So I disolved a doxy pill in water and massaged into my scalp for 2 weeks and it stopped. The only time I feel crawling on my head is, like recently, some bugs came into my apartment. I take a Lysol bath and it stops. I'm on internals for fungus and bacteria. Once had about 200 lesions on my body. My body looks pretty good now, but I must still be dealing with it as these bugs still like

me. I think I need to move. These definately are coming from outside through my sunroom door. I can't see staying if it means I'll have to fight a new invasion every spring and fall. I should have known it was a red flag when my apartment manager told me the man who live in the apartment before me was breaking the lease and was weird. I've learned weird means birdmites.

Hope to hear you are doing better soon Jk .

Love and light,

I t

From: jk1776 <jk1776@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:32 AMSubject: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

I did see 1 on ceiling, but I know there must be hundreds. I left some pants and sweatshirt out one day. The next day, I wore them and i could feel so many of them crawling on me. I dont see them in my hair. I do not have anyone to check for me though. I feel them in my hair many times in the day. I don't think I have any internal infections. I WAS healthy, I worked out and everything was fine, until I started getting bit each night. I thought it was bed bugs, but realized that these creatures are worse! It has gotten worse each day since. > > > Hi All.> >> > I am just now realizing that I probably have bird mites. I do not > > have a wife or gf, or family close by. I noticed that many people > > posting do and it make a world of difference. I am desperate and > > moving towards full blown depression, and thought I would join this > > group for help. I guess I have basic questions which seem so > > obvious, and I hope not ridiculous.> >> > 1. I can not get them out of my hair? I have tried vinegar, tar > > shampoo, Rid, listerine, tee tree oil? Does any one have a proven > > way to get these out?> >> > 2. I

can't get my clothes clean? I am currently washing with > > ammonia, and borax, and hot dryer for 90 minutes?> >> > 3. Does anyone ever get rid of these things? I noticed some success > > stories, but it seems hit or miss? I recently renewed my lease, of > > course, and now I am stuck here until late 2012. I can not wait that > > long with this nightmare? I am thinking of moving temporarily.> >> > 4. Does any exterminator treatment work? I thought i had samples of > > red mites, but the exterminator said it was nothing. They are not > > experienced with mites, so i think they were wrong - seriously.> >> > Thank you for any responses? I am truly depressed by this nightmare?> >> > Help.> >> > Thank you> >>

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Great suggestions sidepull. From: "sidepull5150" <sidepull5150@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 7:42:30 AMSubject: Re: Help ... New to this nightmareWelcome.My heart goes out to you. May you be blessed with unending courage, strength and determination. Instead of having "I am desperate and moving towards full blown depression" running through you mind, begin creating your own affirmations like, "I have more than enough courage & strength to meet this challenge". Or ask your self questions like, "What can I do right now to help myself?", Questions like this get our subconscious mind working to help us and they get us thinking in a more proactive direction.I wash my clothing in, 1 cup Borax, 1 cup Hydrogen peroxide and warm water. Seems to work well. I also store my dirty laundry in a lidded plastic tub. I'd run like hell away from the ammonia, it's just adding toxic crap to your body.When my symptoms were their worst, I dropped bread, protien mix, Sun chips and something else from my diet about the same time and it helped lessen the severity of my sensations.I'd ask alot of questions about your physical health.Do you have candidias? Do you suffer from feminine itch or jock itch, have toe nail fungus, bad gas & intestinal gurgling, sinusitus, low energy, brain fog... How often have you had prescribed antibiotics? If you are getting city or town water in your home, get a shower filter to remove the chlorine from your shower water. How are your toe nails? Raised or normal?Are you taking care of your mouth, (Oil Pulling)? Have any wisdom teeth pulled? Have you had any dry sockets, root canals? May wanna read http://www.jonbarron.org/detox/nl110404/oil-pulling-strong-immunityA knowledgeable lady healinghope AKA "mfrreman", a member of this group, posted that MSM had helped her and it has helped me as well. I'll use 1\2 to 1 teaspoon 2X a day. Read this post for her information. bird mites/message/33997As for the depression. Are you drinking enough water, depression and dehydration go hand in hand. I'm 150lbs and I shoot for over 2 quarts (of water) a day. Coffee and soda don't count. Next time your depressed try drinking 16 ounces of H2O in like 5 minutes and see if that helps with the depression. May even wanna put some Cayenne in the water, this will help it get farther into your body, to that part of the brain that dry's out and gives us our depression. Also exercise helps me with depression, get that blood flowing.Do anything you can to foster peace and happiness, ie; Jeff Dunham on you-tube, your favorite music, I love looking at the stars and the sky. What ever to keep your spirits up. Talk to us when your really down. Were in this together, we can listen like no one else can...I have come to believe that we all have an incredible inner strength and most of us were never taught that it existed right inside each of us. It is our mind that may be our worst or best asset. Choose best asset with an affirmation like, "Right to the marrow of my bones I know I can".Dare to believe you can.Practice smiling. Thich Nhat Hahn talks about a little smile and the power of that smile. With regular practice, nice mindful breathing and that little smile can transform your mindset.Good luck.:)P.S. I lived in the same apartment threw 2 episodes of this, so for me moving would not have made a difference. I have taken this with me into 2 more living situations. It's a part of my body, so it goes where I go.------------------------------------

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Could be Andraya. I googled hair infection and found piedra black and white about a year ago. I remember reading that it is very hard to get rid of and one must shave their head to do it. I also read where some Islander women work to get the black piedra. They lay on the ground and cover their hair in soil to get the organism. They think it makes the hair beautiful. When I was 21, my blond hair suddenly started growing black hairs. It was over night it seems. After that, I experience alapecia. My hair is lighter now and the alapecia has not reared its head since 97. Who knows. Good guess though.

Love and light,

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

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What kind of reaction did people have when you shaved your head?When I had this I noticed the texture of my hair was different. I suspected piedra blanca, a fungal infection of the hair shaft. I used antifungal shampoos and always blew my hair very dry. I don't know if the shampoos helped much though.

Aandraya

On Nov 23, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

Yes, it is Aggi:) My best friend Britta is german. She'll tell you she must keep me up to date on the holidays as I don't observe any of them. They're too commercial for me.

Well, I still had it after I let my hair grow back. Didn't find out about the fungus until much later. The doxy stopped the (protozoa?) on my head. The bathes take care of the mites. I combed the fungus out under the water. Could be you just haven't been on the anti fungal long enough.

Love and light,

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:48 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this

nightmare

Yeah, webbing seems the correct word to describe that feeling ! Don't think my employer would appreciate me turning up bold headed, neither would I ;-)

No other alternatives ?

Happy Thanksgiving ! It usually takes place on the last Thursday in November. Is that a German explaining to an all American girl ? :-))

Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 18:37 Mittwoch, 23.November 2011Betreff: Re: Re: Help ... New to this

nightmare

When the movement in my hair was that bad, I shaved my head. I could feel webbing all over it. It took me 3 hours to rub it all off. It was the fungsus

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:06 AMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this

nightmare

The person, sitting in the office where I got attacked in the first place, never had any problems there at all.

I have asked the cleaning staff. Nevertheless, the mites in that office moved with me to my new one. Gradually, the new office got infested same as the previous one. They were in every file and stack of paper I brought with me. I am dreaming of a paper-less office now. It is not that I am being attacked by biting mites much. It is just that weird feeling in my hair and it usually starts in the afternoon. I just feel like shaking my hair non-stop.

Von: Aandraya <aandraya@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 4:07 Mittwoch, 23.November 2011Betreff: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

Very interesting. I'd like to return to my old apt and see if the next tenants have any issues. Still, I moved and they went with me and it got worse at my second apartment. Then I moved to my parents with no belongings and they wen with me.

Aandraya

On Nov 22, 2011, at 8:28 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Oh, interesting . So the man before you may have had birdmites too!

From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:25:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

Hello JK,

When they attack me, I take a large bath with a cup of Lysol Complete Clean. (Be sure and go under the water with a straw, snorkle, or turkey baster and comb hair thouroghly.) Kills anything on my body. Then I cover in olive oil from head to toe for the night. Get a garden sprayer and spray ceilings, and walls with 1 cup Lysol to the gallon. I even shampoo my rugs with the Lysol. At one time, I had something more than just mites getting in my hair. Bathes alone would do nothing. So I disolved a doxy pill in water and massaged into my scalp for 2 weeks and it stopped. The only time I feel crawling on my head is, like recently, some bugs came into my apartment. I take a Lysol bath and it stops. I'm on internals for fungus and bacteria. Once had about 200 lesions on my body. My body looks pretty good now, but I must still be dealing with it as these bugs still like

me. I think I need to move. These definately are coming from outside through my sunroom door. I can't see staying if it means I'll have to fight a new invasion every spring and fall. I should have known it was a red flag when my apartment manager told me the man who live in the apartment before me was breaking the lease and was weird. I've learned weird means birdmites.

Hope to hear you are doing better soon Jk .

Love and light,

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From: jk1776 <jk1776@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:32 AMSubject: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

I did see 1 on ceiling, but I know there must be hundreds. I left some pants and sweatshirt out one day. The next day, I wore them and i could feel so many of them crawling on me. I dont see them in my hair. I do not have anyone to check for me though. I feel them in my hair many times in the day. I don't think I have any internal infections. I WAS healthy, I worked out and everything was fine, until I started getting bit each night. I thought it was bed bugs, but realized that these creatures are worse! It has gotten worse each day since. > > > Hi All.> >> > I am just now realizing that I probably have bird mites. I do not > > have a wife or gf, or family close by. I noticed that many people > > posting do and it make a world of difference. I am desperate and > > moving towards full blown depression, and thought I would join this > > group for help. I guess I have basic questions which seem so > > obvious, and I hope not ridiculous.> >> > 1. I can not get them out of my hair? I have tried vinegar, tar > > shampoo,

Rid, listerine, tee tree oil? Does any one have a proven > > way to get these out?> >> > 2. I can't get my clothes clean? I am currently washing with > > ammonia, and borax, and hot dryer for 90 minutes?> >> > 3. Does anyone ever get rid of these things? I noticed some success > > stories, but it seems hit or miss? I recently renewed my lease, of > > course, and now I am stuck here until late 2012. I can not wait that > > long with this nightmare? I am thinking of moving temporarily.> >> > 4. Does any exterminator treatment work? I thought i had samples of > > red mites, but the exterminator said it was nothing. They are not > > experienced with mites, so i think they were wrong - seriously.> >> > Thank you for any responses? I am truly depressed by this nightmare?> >> > Help.>

>> > Thank you> >> >>

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I forgot to mention shaving my head. Being a teacher, it was noticed. I wore a hat, but rumors went around that I had cancer. Strangers would stop me when I was out and want to talk about chemo. Very weird time.

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

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What kind of reaction did people have when you shaved your head?When I had this I noticed the texture of my hair was different. I suspected piedra blanca, a fungal infection of the hair shaft. I used antifungal shampoos and always blew my hair very dry. I don't know if the shampoos helped much though.

Aandraya

On Nov 23, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

Yes, it is Aggi:) My best friend Britta is german. She'll tell you she must keep me up to date on the holidays as I don't observe any of them. They're too commercial for me.

Well, I still had it after I let my hair grow back. Didn't find out about the fungus until much later. The doxy stopped the (protozoa?) on my head. The bathes take care of the mites. I combed the fungus out under the water. Could be you just haven't been on the anti fungal long enough.

Love and light,

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:48 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this

nightmare

Yeah, webbing seems the correct word to describe that feeling ! Don't think my employer would appreciate me turning up bold headed, neither would I ;-)

No other alternatives ?

Happy Thanksgiving ! It usually takes place on the last Thursday in November. Is that a German explaining to an all American girl ? :-))

Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 18:37 Mittwoch, 23.November 2011Betreff: Re: Re: Help ... New to this

nightmare

When the movement in my hair was that bad, I shaved my head. I could feel webbing all over it. It took me 3 hours to rub it all off. It was the fungsus

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:06 AMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this

nightmare

The person, sitting in the office where I got attacked in the first place, never had any problems there at all.

I have asked the cleaning staff. Nevertheless, the mites in that office moved with me to my new one. Gradually, the new office got infested same as the previous one. They were in every file and stack of paper I brought with me. I am dreaming of a paper-less office now. It is not that I am being attacked by biting mites much. It is just that weird feeling in my hair and it usually starts in the afternoon. I just feel like shaking my hair non-stop.

Von: Aandraya <aandraya@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 4:07 Mittwoch, 23.November 2011Betreff: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

Very interesting. I'd like to return to my old apt and see if the next tenants have any issues. Still, I moved and they went with me and it got worse at my second apartment. Then I moved to my parents with no belongings and they wen with me.

Aandraya

On Nov 22, 2011, at 8:28 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Oh, interesting . So the man before you may have had birdmites too!

From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:25:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

Hello JK,

When they attack me, I take a large bath with a cup of Lysol Complete Clean. (Be sure and go under the water with a straw, snorkle, or turkey baster and comb hair thouroghly.) Kills anything on my body. Then I cover in olive oil from head to toe for the night. Get a garden sprayer and spray ceilings, and walls with 1 cup Lysol to the gallon. I even shampoo my rugs with the Lysol. At one time, I had something more than just mites getting in my hair. Bathes alone would do nothing. So I disolved a doxy pill in water and massaged into my scalp for 2 weeks and it stopped. The only time I feel crawling on my head is, like recently, some bugs came into my apartment. I take a Lysol bath and it stops. I'm on internals for fungus and bacteria. Once had about 200 lesions on my body. My body looks pretty good now, but I must still be dealing with it as these bugs still like

me. I think I need to move. These definately are coming from outside through my sunroom door. I can't see staying if it means I'll have to fight a new invasion every spring and fall. I should have known it was a red flag when my apartment manager told me the man who live in the apartment before me was breaking the lease and was weird. I've learned weird means birdmites.

Hope to hear you are doing better soon Jk .

Love and light,

I t

From: jk1776 <jk1776@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:32 AMSubject: Re: Help ... New to this nightmare

I did see 1 on ceiling, but I know there must be hundreds. I left some pants and sweatshirt out one day. The next day, I wore them and i could feel so many of them crawling on me. I dont see them in my hair. I do not have anyone to check for me though. I feel them in my hair many times in the day. I don't think I have any internal infections. I WAS healthy, I worked out and everything was fine, until I started getting bit each night. I thought it was bed bugs, but realized that these creatures are worse! It has gotten worse each day since. > > > Hi All.> >> > I am just now realizing that I probably have bird mites. I do not > > have a wife or gf, or family close by. I noticed that many people > > posting do and it make a world of difference. I am desperate and > > moving towards full blown depression, and thought I would join this > > group for help. I guess I have basic questions which seem so > > obvious, and I hope not ridiculous.> >> > 1. I can not get them out of my hair? I have tried vinegar, tar > > shampoo,

Rid, listerine, tee tree oil? Does any one have a proven > > way to get these out?> >> > 2. I can't get my clothes clean? I am currently washing with > > ammonia, and borax, and hot dryer for 90 minutes?> >> > 3. Does anyone ever get rid of these things? I noticed some success > > stories, but it seems hit or miss? I recently renewed my lease, of > > course, and now I am stuck here until late 2012. I can not wait that > > long with this nightmare? I am thinking of moving temporarily.> >> > 4. Does any exterminator treatment work? I thought i had samples of > > red mites, but the exterminator said it was nothing. They are not > > experienced with mites, so i think they were wrong - seriously.> >> > Thank you for any responses? I am truly depressed by this nightmare?> >> > Help.>

>> > Thank you> >> >>