Re: overwhelmed and terribly depressed

December 6, 2011

HI, C!Yes we absolutely brought NOTHING. But some people here has succeeded and still kept their things.If your cat is a carrier that is off course a big problem..Take care!Cecilia From: christine french <karmakatmeow@...> bird mites Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 5:45 PM Subject: Re: overwhelmed and terribly depressed

Thanks cecilla

You literally brought nothing?

Im so confused as to what to keep or not

Dont think can stay here anylonger

But worried cat a carrier

Had 18 years

She with me for life

C

On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 16:22 GMT Cecilia Borg wrote:

>Hi, !

>I am sorry to hear you have got the birdmites, itÂ´s such hell...

>We moved and brought ---Nothing, to get rid of them, but I know people here who has gotten rid of them without moving, so

>letÂ´s hope you can be one of them...

>KR

>Cecilia

>

>________________________________

>From: christine french <karmakatmeow@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 1:06 PM

>Subject: Re: overwhelmed and terribly depressed

>

>Thanks linda

>I live scotland

>Someone just said to me must be my fault that my house must be dirty to have had fleas then mites.

>I was v upset said this can hapen to anyone

>...yeah but why you?

>I said....fungal infections atract the mites

>...i got told im crazy n need a psychistrist!!!

>Some people are stupid ignorant v awful actually

>Unbelievable

>I got told it must be my fault!!!!!

>I was in tears naturaly!:-(

>Oh thanks for advice,shall need look up many things u mentioned

>Yes they worse at night

>Cats ears realy bothering her but thought it fleas even though she had flea sterilization tablets five months

>Put diatemeous earth on her ears every day

>Clean hibiscrub dilute n vinegar

>Do best i can with her poor soul

>An washed everythin 60 degree but stil no enough

>Will have to move as council will not put scafold up to demolish n get imto roof cavity

>Not enough blockin up holes

>But what is it safe to bring

>What if cat infects new place

>Think all shoes boots have to be thrown out

>They badly infested

>Is there a way to cure them?

>Scared to bring clothes bedding

>Incase infest

>Will i have to wash everything again before i take it in borax?

>But i dry hanging up in my flat

>So what point as get infested hangin up

>Would it be safe to bag n bring new property

>N wash one at a time?

>Also worried re sample

>If they dont id it landlord etc prob wont take me seriously

>Its just awful

>Glad to know others like you have recovered

>N understand

>Thanks

>C

>On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 00:38 GMT Goldstein@... wrote:

>

>>Where do you live ? I'm having an increase in carpal tunnel on right hand right now, so won't be able to type too much. Sounds very much like birdmites to me. Everything you describe I had. All of it. That was in 2008, April. If you can't find the source of the where the mites came in and if birds are still using that space, you will need to move. You have to remove the source of the infestation and if there are birds and/or nests there, they will continue to want to find another host (you). Whatever is nearest seems to get it, including your cat. I never found birdmites in our house, nor did pest control, but county pest control did find rodent droppings and we had been around birds quite a bit too. Something very weird is happening in nature right now that all of us are coming down with similar symptoms, usually gardening related or bird related, or sometimes related to some particular insect that bit us or came into our homes.

Remember bees

>going through colony collapse syndrome? I think it is being caused by something, may be mite, might be something else that is killing certain things off.

>>

>>All the products you mentioned I used. If you choose to stay where you are maybe you could buy a fogger and some Cedarcide but the place where the infestation must be dealt with, then start to do internals quickly. Don't wait. I would start with bathing in Borax and Arm and Hammer and if they are mites on the outside or the body, this seems to start to kill them, while dealing with the environmental infestation too. They go internal so start taking MSM and start to alkalinize your internal system by improving your diet, eliminating sugars, anything artificial, getting your internal system in tip top shape. MMS also is an option if you have little money and that should be used in a bath too, 40 activated drops in a tub of water and soak whole body, head, etc. This should be done daily. Start taking MMS one drop at a time, activated, 3x/day and increasing dose each day by one drop. This starts to kill fungus and other microbes in the body.

>>

>>Keep cleaning and hoovering, change bag frequently and keep hoover outside if possible. If you have a bagless hoover, flush out the part that holds the dirt with hot hot water frequently. Get diatomaceous earth and spread it wherever you can because they don't seem to move well in DE and it may kill them. We had less movement with DE. On clothing, do you have a steam iron and ironing board? Iron your clothing during this time. I was a proponent of purchasing a steam press (like used in dry cleaners, only much smaller)... we purchased one and I steamed everything for a year, even small towels. It helps more than you can imagine. If these are birdmites, they hide during the day and come out mainly at night. They are microscopic, but try to get an ID if possible. I believe they are birdmites from the description.

>>

>>This is not a quick process so you will have to work on coping skills a lot. It was one of the worst times in our lives here. We tossed over half of our belongings and many here on this site moved, some multiple times, but ultimately after things start to be more or less under control, most people discover they have to work on internal measures because for some reason you were picked as a host and internal bacterias, fungi, etc., attract these particular mites to us. So you have to work on internals. Some found medications helpful - some developed or had pre-existing Lyme Disease (I did and many others) and now are working on those issues almost solely.

>>

>>I'd say pray often... keep it up. If this takes you to a place of fear, ask God for help. Many of us felt suicidal at the beginning... I felt like burning my townhouse down, but didn't. We removed all carpeting, sprayed and sprayed and kept spraying, cleaning, removing fungus and molds... unfortunately it is expensive all the clean up. Keep sharing and others will help you sort routines out.

>>

>> overwhelmed and terribly depressed

>>

>>Dear all

>>Im new to the site ,hello and sorry we all have to be here!:-(

>>Though good theres a site to help each other!:-)

>>I need some help!

>>Live on my own with my wee old ill cat n have rented here three years n loved it until my problems started in july

>>My cat an indoor cat but caught fleas somehow in july

>>The flat got infested

>>

>>Spent six weeks exhaustin myself tryin enviromentaly safe ways to get rid fleas,as well as gve cat program to sterilize fleas

>>I was bitten,used salt,bicarb soda,steamer,enviromental friendly flea spray,diatemeous earth then two lots spray oct n nov of permethrin with igr in it

>>The spray help a bit fleas nearly away

>>But had said for months as well as what looked like fleas were tiny black dots

>>

>>All footwear infested

>>Crawlin sensation clothes

>>Permethrin shoes several times still bad bitten

>>Pinprick bites

>>Afectin my mental health now went on too long

>>Hooverin like mad lady

>>Washed all clothes 60 degree,have no dryer but still. Crawling

>>Pestcontrol say think bird mites

>>To give sample

>>But twice when spray permethrin i felt ill

>>N old cat sickness diareah for weeks

>>Pest people cant get to roof without scafolding but say can block holes in flat

>>And want to spray strong chemicals

>>My cat cannot be around anymore sprayin

>>I dont want it either

>>I have bad physical health

>>

>>Fireplace in bedroom

>>Gunk fell from roof

>>Disgusting black stuff n bread pieces

>>Pest folk think nest in roof

>>Holes in roof

>>Heard birds between bedroom n roof partician

>>And cats ears realy infected

>>And itchy

>>Not clearing up

>>Tiny black dots

>>Have they infected my wee darling?

>>I put on one pair shoes

>>Every toe bitten

>>Tiny things

>>I pulled off

>>More apeared

>>It went on n on

>>Horific

>>Avoiding people

>>Csnt wear suede jackets

>>All boots shoes

>>Wear one boot

>>Washed disinfectant vinegar hairdrier twenty mins

>>Help a bit

>>Put cup vinegar in with wash

>>Not enough

>>Woll have to wash everything again

>>I read borax vinegar epsom salts good ammonia

>>Please help regard exactly how to treat shoes n clothes

>>I realise i have to leave here before i go crazy

>>Will leave all my furniture throw out

>>A lot of is wood

>>I hear thats no good with mites

>>But what if my clothes still affected

>>N my cat

>>She old kidney heart disease a lump

>>She cant take much chemicals now

>>I ripped al covers off my books

>>Are they safe?

>>Im ill over this n most people around me dont know whats wrong

>>Hid it from them

>>Feel like a leper with it

>>When in shoes or clothes v scared give other folk

>>One friend knows n said she itchy for week or so

>>I very scared id given her it

>>Cant even go friends house or hug goodbye

>>Getting fat comfort eating

>>N doctor gave valium as im so stressed

>>Is it posible to move safely

>>While im here id get them to hole up holes

>>Then up to landlord if he want to chemical spray or not

>>Dreading telling landlord

>>This was my home

>>Best place i ever lived

>>Until this hapened

>>I didnt want to leave

>>But with all my stuff infested

>>Cant cope

>>Please help

>>Worried for cat

>>Talkin to vet now to check swab ears

>>Scratching legs as i write

>>Even if they dont find mites in the sample

>>I know they are there

>>Hurts to talk to doctor n she sugest psychological help n says had anyone seen them

>>As if makin it up!!!!

>>My friend saw lot fleas in summer

>>N i know what going through with these tiny things

>>Whats the best way to treat my shoes

>>Cat

>>Flat(without chemicals)

>>Sorry this is so long

>>I really need someone to understand what im going through n help me

>>Im alone in this( have no family apart from cat)

>>I was strong at first

>>But struggling hugely to cope now,retiring to bed,but often get bitten,even though plastic covers

>>And whole rigmarole everything bagged,cleanin tea tree,clean feet when touch floor

>>Bitten in night examining bed

>>Bugsocks pesticide n insrcticide in boots

>>Its a nightmare

>>Hell

>>I despair when i read what others cope with also

>>How do you not have breakdowns

>>Thanks so much for listening

>>Grateful for any help

>>And any friends

>>As we go through these difficulties

>>Best wishes

>>C

>>

>>------------------------------------

>>

December 6, 2011

Hi , I am living in Germany, but my boyfriend actually is from the north of the UK;-)

Your feet seem to be the mites' hot spot. Mine were mainly interested in the inside of my thighs.

I used to have round about 50 bites on each site in the first year and still have some scars... what a lovely souvenir ;-)

2 questions for you> Are your mites trying to get in your ears, eyes, mouth and elsewhere?

Do you get bitten in the shower or bathtub as well ?

Von: christine french <karmakatmeow@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 0:58 Dienstag, 6.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Re: overwhelmed and terribly depressed

Thanks aggiYes it really makes u feel the worst despairI hate bein in public n someone talk to me n they bitin my toes evrn tho pest bug socks permethrin n saltidin sprayed bootsN vinegar disenfectantWell one min im semi normal then bit then sink down inside so bad!Weve all been thereThen come home feet cleanin rigmaroleAn no matter what iv done 5 month me n cat still in this placeIt helps to talk!Much good adviceSo glad u gettin betterAre u in the uk?COn Mon, Dec 5, 2011 23:29 GMT Aggi wrote:>I know it feels like punishment, but we all just bumped accidentally into some horrible creatures. The isolation is terrible and I think we all here have been through that. Just try to be patient as this is not a short-term fix, but do not lose hope ! I have been suicidal for about 1 year and am now the happy person again I once was :-)>Start treating the internal issues. This is most

important !!!>>>> >> >Hi for Karma, >> >>> > Earmite are killed with 1 tsp borax & 1 cup of water . If it won't do it , antibiotic drops do it every time , the quick clinnic will prescribe them for humans.

, they cost 36.00. >> > Coconut oil slows them down tremendously ,borax kills the bug by digestive disorder to the bug , never bothered me ever. You get diareaha if you get it in your mouth thats all I know. >> >>> >This is the best post I ever saw most all the anssers to bug are in it . >> >>> >>> >Here it is: >> >>> >Mites and farmer tricks>> >link>> >bird mites/message/10634>> >>> >>> >I don't know where you people are from, whether it be city, or too far north to know this, but "mites" are nothing new, and there is nothing "foreign about them.>> >>> >I was raised, and still live in Louisiana, which is called,

"semi-tropical. " I was raised on a farm/ranch. There are so many different types of mites, that >> >>> >bite, that I will not begin to try to list many; I will give a few examples. Warm blooded animals get lice; plants get lice; they are not the same type of >> >>> >lice. the "lice" that infest your turnip green patch, will not bite you because it suddenly "got warmer" in the US. The mites and lice that infest your chicken >> >>> >house, will not be satisfied with sucking on turnip greens; but they will crawl all over a human and give you the "itch" for many days after you have gotten >> >>> >rid of the mites. There are "redbugs," picked up from walking through grass, brush, or sometimes dirt. They will burrow under your skin and make you want to>> >>> > take a wire brush and shed your won hide off. There are seed ticks that

will cover you from brushing against the wrong tree limb, or infest your living room>> >>> > when you buy that "real" tree at Christmas. The "Mange" in dogs, or as we humans dislike having to call it, "Scabies," that will infest you and all your >> >>> >pets. There are hog lice, chiken mites, Sarcopic mange, ring worm, ( & scores of other funguses from cattle and horses and dogs), that humans can get. There is >> >>> >the "creeping crud," a fungus, that sometimes does not show to the naked eye for months, but will make you claw until you bleed, usually starting at the >> >>> >ankles and working up; it lives in the soil. While we back woods, country people may call all these vermin and varmints funny names, and we may seem >> >>> >stupid to some, we know these critters you are talking about; they were here in the US long

before you went overseas. It is just as possible that you caught it >> >>> >from your Georgia tent mate when he returned from leave, as it is that you caught it in Iraq, or some other "hot" place.>> >>> >We have put a couple of cap fulls of pine oil or bleach in our bath water for years; we have cleaned our houses with pine oil for hundreds of years. We have >> >>> >dabbed pine oil, turpintine, and sometimes if desperate enough, coal oil, on redbugs, (and various other critters that attached themselves to us), to kill >> >>> >them for hundreds of years. We have coated ourselves in various kinds of fats, mud, and paste to keep them off, and to kill them when they decided to live on >> >>> >us anyway. We have bathed in baking soda, salt and epsoms salt to keep from itching; smeared paste from mustard, baking soda and tobacco to

help. We have >> >>> >taken the "skin" from egg shells and pit on bad bites, to draw the "itch" out. We have chewed on the sulphur ends of hard matches, and made a paste out >> >>> >of "flowers of sulfur;" which bugs hate the smell of, and it keeps the bites from getting infected. One of the bad things about itchy bites, it all that >> >scratching and hot, blooding flesh, attracts even more critters.>> >As for borax; you can buy "20 Mule Team"borax powder; it's been around longer than any of us. We wash with it, neutralize orors with it, remove stains with >> >>> >it, etc. Most of all, down here, we have been rubbing it on our meat in our smoke houses for ages; flies won't even light on it. we just wash it off when >> >>> >we take it out to eat. I heard in the eighties, that they were "blowing" recycled, chipped up, news

papers into the walls of old historical homes to >> >>> >insulate them. Guess what they were soaking the news paper in prior to drying and chopping it up? That's right...Borax. Not only does it kill bugs, repel >> >>> >bugs, repel rodents and prevent them from chewing and nesting in the paper insulation, but it makes the paper fire retardent. You can make your on roach >> >>> >and ant bait with it by mixing it with flour and sugar, or just corn syrup and Borax. You can use it like carpet fresh, and you can wash your walls and floors >> >>> >and counters with it; use it as a paste for scrubbing; just don't rinse it too well, and you will see a lessening of itchy critters. And for people that want >> >>> >their clothes clean, but do not like fragrance fumes, etc., it's the best for your laundry.>> >>>

>If the varmints are eating your ankles up, mix some borax with your lotion or vaseline; it will repel them and has antibiotic properties>> >>> >>> >Summary : >> >>> >Borax$3.99>> >Mustard 2.00>> >skin of egg $1.99 haven't tried that one yet >> >coaltar shampoo 5.99>> >pinesol $4.00>> >bleach .69 >> >sulphur $12.00 www.Americarx.com>> >baking soda $1.00>> >tobacco $4.00 >> >fats .01 off a steak >> >mud $.00 >> > and make s paste>> >>> >Pretty cheap ! And they work >> >>> >>> > if birds were in my attic , I would powder it like a snow storm with a respirator on. 1 box per 10X10 sq ft, bow it into the walls by rremoving the base molding & blowingg itup into the wall

cavitys between the studs , I woud repeat every 5 days. >> >>> > I had a close friend who had fleas in Florida & after 1 year of top spot , revolution , zodiac permith bombs , & de but fortuatly a vet told her of the snow storm technique with a box of borax per room in, on, & under everything , let sit for 5 days & vac up , then repeat in 14 days , she never had to repeat , but she did leave down a residue of the borax at the perimetrr of each room & she was free. . After 1 year of battling with top quality sprays & tonics , the cat way almost bald form all these fleas she could see easily. Well this isn't fleas you are battleing , but it is simliar , I just would not vac up , I would just add more borax, & sweep the tables & living areas clean wearing a respirator while sweeping. . Then spray Nylar growthe regulator on it to stop breading. This is a war , chsoe your battle . Moving is a war too .

But it might be a fun place your move too , I hope so. >> > After God made the earth He said is is good. I pray you are set free from this monster , I know it well. >> > Pray hard , God is good & he will hear you. You must keep His Commandments , they gaurd you , or He says He won't hear you , He gave us the commandments to gaurd us from evil >> >Love the Lord thys God with all thy heart >> > Love your nieghbor as thy self>> >Honor your father & mother>> >Thou shall not commit adultry.>> >Thou shalt not kill. .>> >>> >He says His commandments are not grevious>> >>> >>> >God bless you , >> >>> >>> >Bill>> >>>>>

December 6, 2011

Glad u succeded cecilia

I knoe re cat

Just cant let her go if she not ready!:-(

Oh butcif infects new place will be very ill!

C

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 08:29 GMT Cecilia Borg wrote:

>HI, C!

>Yes we absolutely brought NOTHING.

>But some people here has succeeded and still kept their things.

>If your cat is a carrier that is off course a big problem..

>Take care!

>Cecilia

>

>________________________________

> From: christine french <karmakatmeow@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 5:45 PM

>Subject: Re: overwhelmed and terribly depressed

>

>Thanks cecilla

>You literally brought nothing?

>Im so confused as to what to keep or not

>Dont think can stay here anylonger

>But worried cat a carrier

>Had 18 years

>She with me for life

>C

>On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 16:22 GMT Cecilia Borg wrote:

>

>>Hi, !

>>I am sorry to hear you have got the birdmites, it´s such hell...

>>We moved and brought ---Nothing, to get rid of them, but I know people here

who has gotten rid of them without moving, so

>>let´s hope you can be one of them...

>>KR

>>Cecilia

>>

>>________________________________

>>From: christine french <karmakatmeow@...>

>>bird mites

>>Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 1:06 PM

>>Subject: Re: overwhelmed and terribly depressed

>>

>>Thanks linda

>>I live scotland

>>Someone just said to me must be my fault that my house must be dirty to have

had fleas then mites.

>>I was v upset said this can hapen to anyone

>>...yeah but why you?

>>I said....fungal infections atract the mites

>>...i got told im crazy n need a psychistrist!!!

>>Some people are stupid ignorant v awful actually

>>Unbelievable

>>I got told it must be my fault!!!!!

>>I was in tears naturaly!:-(

>>Oh thanks for advice,shall need look up many things u mentioned

>>Yes they worse at night

>>Cats ears realy bothering her but thought it fleas even though she had flea

sterilization tablets five months

>>Put diatemeous earth on her ears every day

>>Clean hibiscrub dilute n vinegar

>>Do best i can with her poor soul

>>An washed everythin 60 degree but stil no enough

>>Will have to move as council will not put scafold up to demolish n get imto

roof cavity

>>Not enough blockin up holes

>>But what is it safe to bring

>>What if cat infects new place

>>Think all shoes boots have to be thrown out

>>They badly infested

>>Is there a way to cure them?

>>Scared to bring clothes bedding

>>Incase infest

>>Will i have to wash everything again before i take it in borax?

>>But i dry hanging up in my flat

>>So what point as get infested hangin up

>>Would it be safe to bag n bring new property

>>N wash one at a time?

>>Also worried re sample

>>If they dont id it landlord etc prob wont take me seriously

>>Its just awful

>>Glad to know others like you have recovered

>>N understand

>>Thanks

>>C

>>On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 00:38 GMT Goldstein@... wrote:

>>

>>>Where do you live ? I'm having an increase in carpal tunnel on right

hand right now, so won't be able to type too much. Sounds very much like

birdmites to me. Everything you describe I had. All of it. That was in 2008,

April. If you can't find the source of the where the mites came in and if birds

are still using that space, you will need to move. You have to remove the source

of the infestation and if there are birds and/or nests there, they will continue

to want to find another host (you). Whatever is nearest seems to get it,

including your cat. I never found birdmites in our house, nor did pest control,

but county pest control did find rodent droppings and we had been around birds

quite a bit too. Something very weird is happening in nature right now that all

of us are coming down with similar symptoms, usually gardening related or bird

related, or sometimes related to some particular insect that bit us or came into

our homes. Remember

bees

>>going through colony collapse syndrome? I think it is being caused by

something, may be mite, might be something else that is killing certain things

off.

>>>

>>>All the products you mentioned I used. If you choose to stay where you are

maybe you could buy a fogger and some Cedarcide but the place where the

infestation must be dealt with, then start to do internals quickly. Don't wait.

I would start with bathing in Borax and Arm and Hammer and if they are mites on

the outside or the body, this seems to start to kill them, while dealing with

the environmental infestation too. They go internal so start taking MSM and

start to alkalinize your internal system by improving your diet, eliminating

sugars, anything artificial, getting your internal system in tip top shape. MMS

also is an option if you have little money and that should be used in a bath

too, 40 activated drops in a tub of water and soak whole body, head, etc. This

should be done daily. Start taking MMS one drop at a time, activated, 3x/day and

increasing dose each day by one drop. This starts to kill fungus and other

microbes in the body.

>>>

>>>Keep cleaning and hoovering, change bag frequently and keep hoover outside if

possible. If you have a bagless hoover, flush out the part that holds the dirt

with hot hot water frequently. Get diatomaceous earth and spread it wherever you

can because they don't seem to move well in DE and it may kill them. We had less

movement with DE. On clothing, do you have a steam iron and ironing board? Iron

your clothing during this time. I was a proponent of purchasing a steam press

(like used in dry cleaners, only much smaller)... we purchased one and I steamed

everything for a year, even small towels. It helps more than you can imagine. If

these are birdmites, they hide during the day and come out mainly at night. They

are microscopic, but try to get an ID if possible. I believe they are birdmites

from the description.

>>>

>>>This is not a quick process so you will have to work on coping skills a lot.

It was one of the worst times in our lives here. We tossed over half of our

belongings and many here on this site moved, some multiple times, but ultimately

after things start to be more or less under control, most people discover they

have to work on internal measures because for some reason you were picked as a

host and internal bacterias, fungi, etc., attract these particular mites to us.

So you have to work on internals. Some found medications helpful - some

developed or had pre-existing Lyme Disease (I did and many others) and now are

working on those issues almost solely.

>>>

>>>I'd say pray often... keep it up. If this takes you to a place of fear, ask

God for help. Many of us felt suicidal at the beginning... I felt like burning

my townhouse down, but didn't. We removed all carpeting, sprayed and sprayed and

kept spraying, cleaning, removing fungus and molds... unfortunately it is

expensive all the clean up. Keep sharing and others will help you sort routines

out.

>>>

>>> overwhelmed and terribly depressed

>>>

>>>Dear all

>>>Im new to the site ,hello and sorry we all have to be here!:-(

>>>Though good theres a site to help each other!:-)

>>>I need some help!

>>>Live on my own with my wee old ill cat n have rented here three years n loved

it until my problems started in july

>>>My cat an indoor cat but caught fleas somehow in july

>>>The flat got infested

>>>

>>>Spent six weeks exhaustin myself tryin enviromentaly safe ways to get rid

fleas,as well as gve cat program to sterilize fleas

>>>I was bitten,used salt,bicarb soda,steamer,enviromental friendly flea

spray,diatemeous earth then two lots spray oct n nov of permethrin with igr in

it

>>>The spray help a bit fleas nearly away

>>>But had said for months as well as what looked like fleas were tiny black

dots

>>>

>>>All footwear infested

>>>Crawlin sensation clothes

>>>Permethrin shoes several times still bad bitten

>>>Pinprick bites

>>>Afectin my mental health now went on too long

>>>Hooverin like mad lady

>>>Washed all clothes 60 degree,have no dryer but still. Crawling

>>>Pestcontrol say think bird mites

>>>To give sample

>>>But twice when spray permethrin i felt ill

>>>N old cat sickness diareah for weeks

>>>Pest people cant get to roof without scafolding but say can block holes in

flat

>>>And want to spray strong chemicals

>>>My cat cannot be around anymore sprayin

>>>I dont want it either

>>>I have bad physical health

>>>

>>>Fireplace in bedroom

>>>Gunk fell from roof

>>>Disgusting black stuff n bread pieces

>>>Pest folk think nest in roof

>>>Holes in roof

>>>Heard birds between bedroom n roof partician

>>>And cats ears realy infected

>>>And itchy

>>>Not clearing up

>>>Tiny black dots

>>>Have they infected my wee darling?

>>>I put on one pair shoes

>>>Every toe bitten

>>>Tiny things

>>>I pulled off

>>>More apeared

>>>It went on n on

>>>Horific

>>>Avoiding people

>>>Csnt wear suede jackets

>>>All boots shoes

>>>Wear one boot

>>>Washed disinfectant vinegar hairdrier twenty mins

>>>Help a bit

>>>Put cup vinegar in with wash

>>>Not enough

>>>Woll have to wash everything again

>>>I read borax vinegar epsom salts good ammonia

>>>Please help regard exactly how to treat shoes n clothes

>>>I realise i have to leave here before i go crazy

>>>Will leave all my furniture throw out

>>>A lot of is wood

>>>I hear thats no good with mites

>>>But what if my clothes still affected

>>>N my cat

>>>She old kidney heart disease a lump

>>>She cant take much chemicals now

>>>I ripped al covers off my books

>>>Are they safe?

>>>Im ill over this n most people around me dont know whats wrong

>>>Hid it from them

>>>Feel like a leper with it

>>>When in shoes or clothes v scared give other folk

>>>One friend knows n said she itchy for week or so

>>>I very scared id given her it

>>>Cant even go friends house or hug goodbye

>>>Getting fat comfort eating

>>>N doctor gave valium as im so stressed

>>>Is it posible to move safely

>>>While im here id get them to hole up holes

>>>Then up to landlord if he want to chemical spray or not

>>>Dreading telling landlord

>>>This was my home

>>>Best place i ever lived

>>>Until this hapened

>>>I didnt want to leave

>>>But with all my stuff infested

>>>Cant cope

>>>Please help

>>>Worried for cat

>>>Talkin to vet now to check swab ears

>>>Scratching legs as i write

>>>Even if they dont find mites in the sample

>>>I know they are there

>>>Hurts to talk to doctor n she sugest psychological help n says had anyone

seen them

>>>As if makin it up!!!!

>>>My friend saw lot fleas in summer

>>>N i know what going through with these tiny things

>>>Whats the best way to treat my shoes

>>>Cat

>>>Flat(without chemicals)

>>>Sorry this is so long

>>>I really need someone to understand what im going through n help me

>>>Im alone in this( have no family apart from cat)

>>>I was strong at first

>>>But struggling hugely to cope now,retiring to bed,but often get bitten,even

though plastic covers

>>>And whole rigmarole everything bagged,cleanin tea tree,clean feet when touch

floor

>>>Bitten in night examining bed

>>>Bugsocks pesticide n insrcticide in boots

>>>Its a nightmare

>>>Hell

>>>I despair when i read what others cope with also

>>>How do you not have breakdowns

>>>Thanks so much for listening

>>>Grateful for any help

>>>And any friends

>>>As we go through these difficulties

>>>Best wishes

>>>C

>>>

>>>------------------------------------

>>>

December 6, 2011

Hi aggi

My friend lived in munich she liked it !:-)

Yes my bloody toes

Its distressing painful

Are u free from them now?

Poor thighs!

This is just horrible!

Yes they in nose ears private parts everywhere else

Horid!

So exhausted really!

C

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 21:55 GMT Aggi Assmann wrote:

>Hi , I am living in Germany, but my boyfriend actually is from the

north of the UK;-)

>Your feet seem to be the mites' hot spot. Mine were mainly interested in the

inside of my thighs.

>I used to have round about 50 bites on each site in the first year and still

have some scars... what a lovely souvenir ;-)

>2 questions for you> Are your mites trying to get in your ears, eyes, mouth and

elsewhere?

>Do you get bitten in the shower or bathtub as well ?

>

>________________________________

>Von: christine french <karmakatmeow@...>

>An: bird mites

>Gesendet: 0:58 Dienstag, 6.Dezember 2011

>Betreff: Re: Re: overwhelmed and terribly depressed

>

>Thanks aggi

>Yes it really makes u feel the worst despair

>I hate bein in public n someone talk to me n they bitin my toes evrn tho pest

bug socks permethrin n saltidin sprayed boots

>N vinegar disenfectant

>Well one min im semi normal then bit then sink down inside so bad!

>Weve all been there

>Then come home feet cleanin rigmarole

>An no matter what iv done 5 month me n cat still in this place

>It helps to talk!

>Much good advice

>So glad u gettin better

>Are u in the uk?

>C

>On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 23:29 GMT Aggi wrote:

>

>>I know it feels like punishment, but we all just bumped accidentally into some

horrible creatures. The isolation is terrible and I think we all here have been

through that. Just try to be patient as this is not a short-term fix, but do not

lose hope ! I have been suicidal for about 1 year and am now the happy person

again I once was :-)

>>Start treating the internal issues. This is most important !!!

>>

>>>

>>> >Hi for Karma,

>>> >

>>> > Earmite are killed with 1 tsp borax & 1 cup of water . If it won't do it ,

antibiotic drops do it every time , the quick clinnic will prescribe them for

humans. , they cost 36.00.

>>> > Coconut oil slows them down tremendously ,borax kills the bug by digestive

disorder to the bug , never bothered me ever. You get diareaha if you get it in

your mouth thats all I know.

>>> >

>>> >This is the best post I ever saw most all the anssers to bug are in it .

>>> >

>>> >Here it is:

>>> >

>>> >Mites and farmer tricks

>>> >link

>>> >bird mites/message/10634

>>> >

>>> >I don't know where you people are from, whether it be city, or too far

north to know this, but " mites " are nothing new, and there is nothing " foreign

about them.

>>> >

>>> >I was raised, and still live in Louisiana, which is called, " semi-tropical.

" I was raised on a farm/ranch. There are so many different types of mites, that

>>> >

>>> >bite, that I will not begin to try to list many; I will give a few

examples. Warm blooded animals get lice; plants get lice; they are not the same

type of

>>> >

>>> >lice. the " lice " that infest your turnip green patch, will not bite you

because it suddenly " got warmer " in the US. The mites and lice that infest your

chicken

>>> >

>>> >house, will not be satisfied with sucking on turnip greens; but they will

crawl all over a human and give you the " itch " for many days after you have

gotten

>>> >

>>> >rid of the mites. There are " redbugs, " picked up from walking through

grass, brush, or sometimes dirt. They will burrow under your skin and make you

want to

>>> >

>>> > take a wire brush and shed your won hide off. There are seed ticks that

will cover you from brushing against the wrong tree limb, or infest your living

room

>>> >

>>> > when you buy that " real " tree at Christmas. The " Mange " in dogs, or as we

humans dislike having to call it, " Scabies, " that will infest you and all your

>>> >

>>> >pets. There are hog lice, chiken mites, Sarcopic mange, ring worm, ( &

scores of other funguses from cattle and horses and dogs), that humans can get.

There is

>>> >

>>> >the " creeping crud, " a fungus, that sometimes does not show to the naked

eye for months, but will make you claw until you bleed, usually starting at the

>>> >

>>> >ankles and working up; it lives in the soil. While we back woods, country

people may call all these vermin and varmints funny names, and we may seem

>>> >

>>> >stupid to some, we know these critters you are talking about; they were

here in the US long before you went overseas. It is just as possible that you

caught it

>>> >

>>> >from your Georgia tent mate when he returned from leave, as it is that you

caught it in Iraq, or some other " hot " place.

>>> >

>>> >We have put a couple of cap fulls of pine oil or bleach in our bath water

for years; we have cleaned our houses with pine oil for hundreds of years. We

have

>>> >

>>> >dabbed pine oil, turpintine, and sometimes if desperate enough, coal oil,

on redbugs, (and various other critters that attached themselves to us), to kill

>>> >

>>> >them for hundreds of years. We have coated ourselves in various kinds of

fats, mud, and paste to keep them off, and to kill them when they decided to

live on

>>> >

>>> >us anyway. We have bathed in baking soda, salt and epsoms salt to keep from

itching; smeared paste from mustard, baking soda and tobacco to help. We have

>>> >

>>> >taken the " skin " from egg shells and pit on bad bites, to draw the " itch "

out. We have chewed on the sulphur ends of hard matches, and made a paste out

>>> >

>>> >of " flowers of sulfur; " which bugs hate the smell of, and it keeps the

bites from getting infected. One of the bad things about itchy bites, it all

that

>>> >scratching and hot, blooding flesh, attracts even more critters.

>>> >As for borax; you can buy " 20 Mule Team " borax powder; it's been around

longer than any of us. We wash with it, neutralize orors with it, remove stains

with

>>> >

>>> >it, etc. Most of all, down here, we have been rubbing it on our meat in our

smoke houses for ages; flies won't even light on it. we just wash it off when

>>> >

>>> >we take it out to eat. I heard in the eighties, that they were " blowing "

recycled, chipped up, news papers into the walls of old historical homes to

>>> >

>>> >insulate them. Guess what they were soaking the news paper in prior to

drying and chopping it up? That's right...Borax. Not only does it kill bugs,

repel

>>> >

>>> >bugs, repel rodents and prevent them from chewing and nesting in the paper

insulation, but it makes the paper fire retardent. You can make your on roach

>>> >

>>> >and ant bait with it by mixing it with flour and sugar, or just corn syrup

and Borax. You can use it like carpet fresh, and you can wash your walls and

floors

>>> >

>>> >and counters with it; use it as a paste for scrubbing; just don't rinse it

too well, and you will see a lessening of itchy critters. And for people that

want

>>> >

>>> >their clothes clean, but do not like fragrance fumes, etc., it's the best

for your laundry.

>>> >

>>> >If the varmints are eating your ankles up, mix some borax with your lotion

or vaseline; it will repel them and has antibiotic properties

>>> >

>>> >Summary :

>>> >

>>> >Borax$3.99

>>> >Mustard 2.00

>>> >skin of egg $1.99 haven't tried that one yet

>>> >coaltar shampoo 5.99

>>> >pinesol $4.00

>>> >bleach .69

>>> >sulphur $12.00 www.Americarx.com

>>> >baking soda $1.00

>>> >tobacco $4.00

>>> >fats .01 off a steak

>>> >mud $.00

>>> > and make s paste

>>> >

>>> >Pretty cheap ! And they work

>>> >

>>> > if birds were in my attic , I would powder it like a snow storm

with a respirator on. 1 box per 10X10 sq ft, bow it into the walls by rremoving

the base molding & blowingg itup into the wall cavitys between the studs , I

woud repeat every 5 days.

>>> >

>>> > I had a close friend who had fleas in Florida & after 1 year of top spot ,

revolution , zodiac permith bombs , & de but fortuatly a vet told her of the snow

storm technique with a box of borax per room in, on, & under everything , let

sit for 5 days & vac up , then repeat in 14 days , she never had to repeat , but

she did leave down a residue of the borax at the perimetrr of each room & she

was free. . After 1 year of battling with top quality sprays & tonics , the cat

way almost bald form all these fleas she could see easily. Well this isn't fleas

you are battleing , but it is simliar , I just would not vac up , I would just

add more borax, & sweep the tables & living areas clean wearing a respirator

while sweeping. . Then spray Nylar growthe regulator on it to stop breading.

This is a war , chsoe your battle . Moving is a war too . But it might be a fun

place your move too , I hope so.

>>> > After God made the earth He said is is good. I pray you are set free from

this monster , I know it well.

>>> > Pray hard , God is good & he will hear you. You must keep His Commandments

, they gaurd you , or He says He won't hear you , He gave us the commandments to

gaurd us from evil

>>> >Love the Lord thys God with all thy heart

>>> > Love your nieghbor as thy self

>>> >Honor your father & mother

>>> >Thou shall not commit adultry.

>>> >Thou shalt not kill. .

>>> >

>>> >He says His commandments are not grevious

>>> >

>>> >God bless you ,

>>> >

>>> >Bill

>>> >

>>>

>>

>

December 6, 2011

Hi Christene

I remeber when had it on my eyes bad & on the brows. One day after 3 years of

it I put betadine $17.00 at all pharmacies ( providone iodine s its generic

name ) I put it on my brow with the eyes closed & left it like the directions

used to say for 5-10 mins , then rinse well , it killed them dead in one

application . I was so happy , it killed even the one burrowing into my cornea.

I guess betadine soaks into thin skinned areas . I repeated also the next time I

picked up some from the environment . I kileed them ahain , I was free for

months & it was painless , it stings like soap if it gets into the eye , but I

never get it in the eye ball cause iodine is not good in the eyeball.

It also has the same effect on privates , same procedure & no pain , I wet

first the apply 1/2 teasp..

For the nose 1 teasp borax in a cup of warm water & them finger it up the nose

for 10-15 mins killed them there for me . Another poster said gargaling with

listerine gold kills them in the throat .

For the terrible terrible itch on the thighs I used to have for years.

then a poster posted this borax/peroxide/water mix & it stops the itch in 3

mins & clears up skin in a week or 2 , especially if I took Arm & Hammer

Powdered Laundry Detergent baths 1 cup per bath , it to helps eyes to says SKF

the poster who posted the a & h soap baths 2.5 years ago or so . Ge oped here eyes

under water , it is painless I have done it many time .

The borax/peroxide/water mix for the skins is this:

http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html

The mix:

2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster

16 oz peroxide (3%)

32 oz water.

mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide, it is painless & the is no fizz

or bruning from this mix & it is cheap

For ears it works too ,after 1 week , if not , antibiotic drops from the quick

clinic cures all ear infection bugs $36.00 . My ears were the worse, I had to go

to the Dr. 3-4 times in 4 years for the drops .@t had been 2 years now since I

felt them there at all . If I even deel a nible I use the borax/peroxide/water

mix with in 1 second , I keep a small hand sanitizer bottle of it in my pocket &

a shampoo bottle of it in the car , desk ,truck , bathroom , bed , kitchen etc ,

oh brother what a life ... ! .

But It kill anything & cures lesions .

One poster didn't get results from it named rita* , she used bezyol peroxide &

it cured her imediataly .

God bless you ,

Bill

*ps here is an old post form Rita , she had it very very bad for 5 years ,

pierciers , lesions etc..

OLD POST REPASTED HERE:

Hi Elissa

I saw your stress and procedures , I had the same thing . I can feel for you .

It is bad.

Pray very gard to God He is wonderful & a very present help in times of

trouble. ..

Here is what one poster named Rita found helped her quickly

Benzyl peroxide : buy from

http://www.danielkern.com/category-s/22.htm

She used it on her skin & it worked fast , here a couple of her posts re-

pasted here

By the way Elissa

soaking will remove bugs out of the skin ., it takes time though Powdered

Laundry Detergent 1 cup per bath tub & soak for 30 mins works wonders , it is

painless & kills all the bug , . Seems the benzol peroxide worked fast for Rita

, Rita now uses coconut oil, I use it too I put 2 tbls in the bathtub of water

then dip in & under for 5-10 mins . Since I used coconut oil in the bathwater

it has been almost 2 years since I felt crawling. Praise God ! ( Borax 1 gup per

3 gallons of water on a towell applied for 30 mins 2 time per day will draw out

& kill anything ,eventually . The face can only stan 1.5 tbls per gallon of

water on a cloth, the face is to sensitive for any more of a concentration of

borax .

OK here are:

THE RE-PASTED POSTS FRON RITA :

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Re: Re: I'm clear..? Well.. for a few days

From: Rush Tessman

bird mites

Date: Mon Jul 06 13:25:02 2009

Rita,

I just ordered som more of the BP, I had a doctors appointment this am, and

also it is raining--so far I have felt really good with it on, I hope it

stays--oh god please let it!! Oh, and mine is lotion--do they make a gel??

From: Rita and Mike Carlson <m.r.carlson@ comcast.net> bird mites@

groups. com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 11:16:13 AM Subject: Re:

Re: I'm clear..? Well.. for a few days

Hi ....... ..I have tried many products on my skin over that last...well

going on 4 years now. The very best product that we have used is the Benzoyl

Peroxide. This gel has workedso very fast, clearedour skin within days and has

left me dumb founded. I have wished for so long now that I had known about this

gel when I first came in contact with this skin mess.. I'm afraid to report that

the Boric Acid and the BP doesn't seem to work as fast for people who are seeing

those little " flying " things around them and in their home. I have never seen

anything flying so as with everything, give it a try for a few months and if you

notice that the things are getting fewer and fewer in numbers than you might be

on the right track. Trial and error seems to be the norm with this and I hope

and pray that you will see eradication like we have. The BP will make your skin

worse off in the first few weeks. It's hard to get

through those weeks because of the flaking. We had to use Vaseline to go out in

public but just like the site says in the videos our skin stopped flaking after

a couple of weeks and looks totally clear and smooth. Every where I had the

" things " on my skin the flaking was extremely bad. Seemed the kill was instant

with the BP. I hope you see success with these new treatments. Keep in touch and

I will do the same. Wishing to loads and loads of luck. Rita

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Re: Benzoyl Peroxide seems to kill mites on the skin

From: buggeredbymites

bird mites

Date: Fri May 01 19:59:32 2009

The rational makes sense: Open the pores, then blast the buggers out with a

deadly dessicant like BP. this is similar to the principal of sulfur combined

with oils which drive them out for air, where they then meet their demise via

the hands of an effective drying agent. I like the speedy, one-two punch

approach these topicals afford. No point in dragging this crap out any longer

than necessary.

>Can't believe how long

it's been since I've had time to reply..taking care>of my son and all of these

rituals to keep the mites from biting leave me>with no spare second!>>Thanks

again for your replies.>>I started washing everything in Arm & hammer powdered

free & clear>detergent...i have baking soda sprinkled around the floor around

the bed>and under the legs of the bed frame. I have to keep the bed against

the>wall since my son sleeps in my bed. This whole thing started when he

was>only 10 months; the bites, living in a hotel and then with my in-laws for>2

months w/o my husband. Once we moved back, he gets hysterical when his>dad

leaves for work...it was such a traumatic experience. I don't have the>heart to

move him to a crib.>>Baking soda is also sprinkled around the floor where the

wall meets it in>the bedroom. I spray the walls and mattress/pillowcases down

with lysol>and slightly diluted

alcohol everyday. I have mattress and pillow bed bug>covers on...>>It seems

the bites I get from the environment happen when I wake in the>night to give my

son a bottle or change his diaper. Like they are waiting>on the floor for

me...>>I wash linens and clothes after one use and vacuum/ mop with lysol and

pine>sol about 3-4 days a week.>>We shower twice a day. Bathe my son once

everyday. We scrub our bodies we>epsoms and selsun blue menthol.>>So...i

finally got into my dermatologist and he told me that the mites are>in my skin.

I must be re-infecting everything from my body? He have me>permethrin

cream(sp)...i am going to try it with my husband tonight. What>if my son has

mites in his skin? The dr. said it is not necessary to use>on him. Will he

re-infect us?>>Has permethrin worked for anyone?>>I finally saw them crawl out

of my skin, too!!!!! I used selsun menthol>and left it on in the shower for a

while...when I got out I sprayed myself>with

alcohol and saw them crawl out! And then crawl back in >>My husband then

came in and poured oil on after I sprayed my skin and>killed some...he is a

scientist and it blew his mind!!7>>I definitely think I have lyme and bart...i

can now make sense of symptoms>from 12 + years ago. I was referred to a

neurologist for leg numbness that>started 2+years ago. Just had the testing

done last week.>>Also saw a functional med dr. who did some bloodwork and put me

on a liver>detox and 10 supplements. I.also went to a lyme seminar from a

local>herbalist. He has lyme ( so does his wife) and sees many other

lyme>patients. I think he can probably help.>>I will ask my dr. for a lyme test

at my next visit.>>Help!! How do I get these suckers out of me??????>>Thanks for

reading this rant!>>E>>>>>> Hi Elissa>>>> And welcome to this forum. I did buy

a dehumidifier and it helped to>some degree.....>>>> From: " Elissa "

<elissarachel@...>>> To:

bird mites >> Sent: Thursday...>>>>

END OF REPASTED POST ,

bye ,

Bill

(Let me know how t work & any other tips you learn, .... please )

December 6, 2011

Thanks bill

Thats very helpful!

I feel for u it going on 3 years!

Yes,what a life!

C

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 04:15 GMT Doe wrote:

>Hi Christene

>

> I remeber when had it on my eyes bad & on the brows. One day after 3 years of