Guest guest Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Hi Bugs are bugs , kill thenthey will die , they have been popping around here at my house too , I powder them & take an Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent bath 1 cup for 30 mins . Then as Shan says http://www.shanspirations.org/?p=112 Home About Me Our Story Shanspirations Blessed to Be a Homekeeper: My Everyday Education, My Everyday Delights. Help! I m Being Bit By Something I Can t See! What do I do? After nearly three months of dealing with some sort of invisible biting bug I d like to take a moment to detail what we would do if we knew at the start what we know now. If you find this post and you have just started experiencing this problem, this is a best practices snapshot of our current knowledge and experience. This is a guideline for getting rid of the bites . I suspect that this guide could be shortened and that other very effective products could be mentioned, but I don t know about them and can t shorten it with my current knowledge. I wish and I could have found a step-by-step guide, even if flawed, three months ago when we first got this problem—so I offer this one to help anyone it can. Step 1 - Place Internet Orders for Long Term Relief It will take you about a week to receive all of the products you need to fight the bugs, so your first step should be to order the products. We have tried many options recommended by others and ones we thought of on our own. These are the products that have produced the best results, most of which are not commonly available and need to be ordered. I have broken these products down into two categories - products to fix the problem in your house / car / workplace, and products to help the problem on your skin. Products to Clean Your Environment - You should order ALL of these products, they are all important, so don t skip any of them just because they seem unfamiliar right now. Feel free to shop around to get the best price. Diatomaceous Earth - DE is the fossilized remains of single cell diatoms. Diatoms look like a knife blade under the microscope, and they act like crushed glass to insects causing rapid dehydration. There are two kinds, amorphous (food grade) and crystalline. The crystalline type is made by subjecting the DE to heat, which changes the structure of the amorphous silica into crystalline silica. Crystalline DE is useful for filtering applications (pools, labs, etc) however it can cause silicosis if inhaled, and is ineffective against insects. You will want the amorphous silica food grade DE, which you will almost certainly need to order.Prices for food-grade DE vary dramatically. If you buy it in gel-caps as a supplement it will cost you $200/lb, however if you buy it in bulk you can get it for less then $1/lb. We bought a 50 lb bag for under $50 from Wolf Creek Ranch, however you can get smaller quantities for a reasonable price from Yardiac Garden Center.You will need about 1 lb to dust a 1500 sq ft house and 2-3 lbs for personal use (in shoes, on your bed, etc). This will get you about 1-2 weeks of treatment. We have used about 15 lbs since we got the stuff. We found out about this product from an out-of-town exterminator friend. Pyrethrum Powder - If you read much about this problem you will hear repeatedly that pyrethroids are ineffective against these mites. This is partially true in that a pyrethroid alone will almost certainly not work, however we had good success using it in combination with DE. I think that these insects quickly become immune to pyrethroids, so you will want to use the powder the right way so that you get rid of them the first time.I tried a synthetic pyrethroid (cypermethrin) in our cars (with a fogger) and it made a big difference the first time (not a total fix, but it helped a lot), however within a week they were back stronger then ever and additional uses of the fogger didn t seem to do anything at all.The option I would use if I did it over again would be to purchase pyrethrum powder (shop around, this is just an example). What we did use was a dog flea powder (0.5% permethrin) that we bought locally for a very expensive price ($5 / 4 oz).Mix the (cont) .... or , my favorite the farmers tips 1 tbls Borax disolved in 3 oz of hot water & added to 12 oz any hand creme , (healthy type is best like cheap 365 brand from whole foods ) Farmes tips repasted .... Bye bye bug : Mites and farmer tricks link bird mites/message/10634 I don't know where you people are from, whether it be city, or too far north to know this, but " mites " are nothing new, and there is nothing " foreign about them. I was raised, and still live in Louisiana, which is called, " semi-tropical. " I was raised on a farm/ranch. There are so many different types of mites, that bite, that I will not begin to try to list many; I will give a few examples. Warm blooded animals get lice; plants get lice; they are not the same type of lice. the " lice " that infest your turnip green patch, will not bite you because it suddenly " got warmer " in the US. The mites and lice that infest your chicken house, will not be satisfied with sucking on turnip greens; but they will crawl all over a human and give you the " itch " for many days after you have gotten rid of the mites. There are " redbugs, " picked up from walking through grass, brush, or sometimes dirt. They will burrow under your skin and make you want to take a wire brush and shed your won hide off. There are seed ticks that will cover you from brushing against the wrong tree limb, or infest your living room when you buy that " real " tree at Christmas. The " Mange " in dogs, or as we humans dislike having to call it, " Scabies, " that will infest you and all your pets. There are hog lice, chiken mites, Sarcopic mange, ring worm, ( & scores of other funguses from cattle and horses and dogs), that humans can get. There is the " creeping crud, " a fungus, that sometimes does not show to the naked eye for months, but will make you claw until you bleed, usually starting at the ankles and working up; it lives in the soil. While we back woods, country people may call all these vermin and varmints funny names, and we may seem stupid to some, we know these critters you are talking about; they were here in the US long before you went overseas. It is just as possible that you caught it from your Georgia tent mate when he returned from leave, as it is that you caught it in Iraq, or some other " hot " place. We have put a couple of cap fulls of pine oil or bleach in our bath water for years; we have cleaned our houses with pine oil for hundreds of years. We have dabbed pine oil, turpintine, and sometimes if desperate enough, coal oil, on redbugs, (and various other critters that attached themselves to us), to kill them for hundreds of years. We have coated ourselves in various kinds of fats, mud, and paste to keep them off, and to kill them when they decided to live on us anyway. We have bathed in baking soda, salt and epsoms salt to keep from itching; smeared paste from mustard, baking soda and tobacco to help. We have taken the " skin " from egg shells and pit on bad bites, to draw the " itch " out. We have chewed on the sulphur ends of hard matches, and made a paste out of " flowers of sulfur; " which bugs hate the smell of, and it keeps the bites from getting infected. One of the bad things about itchy bites, it all that scratching and hot, blooding flesh, attracts even more critters. As for borax; you can buy " 20 Mule Team " borax powder; it's been around longer than any of us. We wash with it, neutralize orors with it, remove stains with it, etc. Most of all, down here, we have been rubbing it on our meat in our smoke houses for ages; flies won't even light on it. we just wash it off when we take it out to eat. I heard in the eighties, that they were " blowing " recycled, chipped up, news papers into the walls of old historical homes to insulate them. Guess what they were soaking the news paper in prior to drying and chopping it up? That's right...Borax. Not only does it kill bugs, repel bugs, repel rodents and prevent them from chewing and nesting in the paper insulation, but it makes the paper fire retardent. You can make your on roach and ant bait with it by mixing it with flour and sugar, or just corn syrup and Borax. You can use it like carpet fresh, and you can wash your walls and floors and counters with it; use it as a paste for scrubbing; just don't rinse it too well, and you will see a lessening of itchy critters. And for people that want their clothes clean, but do not like fragrance fumes, etc., it's the best for your laundry. If the varmints are eating your ankles up, mix some borax with your lotion or vaseline; it will repel them and has antibiotic properties Summary : Borax$3.99 Mustard 2.00 skin of egg $1.99 haven't tried that one yet coaltar shampoo 5.99 pinesol $4.00 bleach .69 sulphur $12.00 www.Americarx.com baking soda $1.00 tobacco $4.00 fats .01 off a steak mud $.00 and make s paste Pretty cheap ! And they work God bless you , Bill ps menthol will make any bug fle for it dear life , right thru the powders & kill it . It airs out in 15 mins & smells awesome after ) I lever the house for 1 hr while doing it , it make the HIDING MEAN ONES COME OUT & run thru the borax , DE or Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent , thus dead bugs ... On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 9:29 AM EST Benton wrote:>This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes.>Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.>Love and light,>>>Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> >Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network>May 17, 2010 " Contribute content like this. Start Here. " >• More: >• Septicemia >• Algae >• >• tweet0>• Print>Flag >AdChoices>>>> >If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. >Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. >The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spread throughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. >There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. >Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Very interesting. I have concerns about algae and fungus. Using algae, man made for fuel is insane yet they continue. Grow hemp for bio-fuel makes much better sense. > > This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes. > Could be another piece of the puzzle for some. > Love and light, > > > Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals > > Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network > May 17, 2010 " Contribute content like this. Start Here. " > • More: > • Septicemia > • Algae > • > • tweet0 > • Print > Flag > AdChoices > > > > > If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. > Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. > The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spread throughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. > There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. > Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 , This is very good information. I had never heard of this before... I wonder if it is man-made? It almost sounds like that could cause Morgellons. Maybe some of the symptoms do not sound like Morgellons but the oozing sores do sound like it. Or am I just reading into this? Also concerns me that cows might be infected with it.From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 8:57:31 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Very interesting. I have concerns about algae and fungus. Using algae, man made for fuel is insane yet they continue. Grow hemp for bio-fuel makes much better sense.>> This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes.> Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.> Love and light,> > > Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> > Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network> May 17, 2010 "Contribute content like this. Start Here." > • More: > • Septicemia > • Algae > • > • tweet0> • Print> Flag > AdChoices> > > > > If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. > Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. > The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spread throughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. > There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. > Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality.>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Sol-gel derived silica and titania have a specific interaction with many biological molecules, microbes, algae, cells and living tissue. The specific interactions mean that they differ from common reactions between non-viable materials and biomolecules or living tissues and the interactions are mostly beneficial from the viewpoint of biotechnical applications. Pepetides and proteins may preserve their activity and bacteria, algae and cells may preserve their viability and viruses their infectivity as encapsulated in sol-gel derived silica. Silica and titania are known to form a direct bond with living tissue which can be utilized in the biomaterial applications. Other application areas of silica and titania are in biosensing, tissue engineering, gene therapy, controlled delivery of therapeutic agents and environmental protection. http://resources.metapress.com/pdf-preview.axd?code=n07705w0h6w47736 & size=larges\ t > > > > This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes. > > Could be another piece of the puzzle for some. > > Love and light, > > > > > > Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals > > > > Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network > > May 17, 2010 " Contribute content like this. Start Here. " > > • More: > > • Septicemia > > • Algae > > • > > • tweet0 > > • Print > > Flag > > AdChoices > > > > > > > > > > If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. > > Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. > > The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spread throughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. > > There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. > > Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Thanks Bill:) You are a dear! I've resumed my soda bathes, which kill them, and the olive leaf which help remove any webbing and eggs still on the body along with dead skin. For the first time, I tried olive oil on the body, head, and in the ears. I read a woman who got rid of them in four months doing it. Not only is it working, but it seems to be pulling mold or fungus from my viens. I don't have vericos viens, but when that stuff surfaces in the vessels, I have dark ones on my ankle. A jump in my soda bath always pulls it out. I thought I'd do the coconut oil in the day and the olive oil at night. I've been through this so many times, I know I can beat it. I am doing so much better but feel impatient to finally reach the end when I am no longer threatened by whichever bug is available at the time. Thus is the walk we all have to make: two steps forward and one step back. Love and light, From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:56 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Hi Bugs are bugs , kill thenthey will die , they have been popping around here at my house too , I powder them & take an Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent bath 1 cup for 30 mins . Then as Shan sayshttp://www.shanspirations.org/?p=112HomeAbout MeOur StoryShanspirationsBlessed to Be a Homekeeper: My Everyday Education, My Everyday Delights.Help! I m Being Bit By Something I Can t See! What do I do?After nearly three months of dealing with some sort of invisible biting bug I d like to take a moment to detail what we would do if we knew at the start what we know now. If you find this post and you have just started experiencing this problem, this is a best practices snapshot of our current knowledge and experience.This is a guideline for getting rid of the bites . I suspect that this guide could be shortened and that other very effective products could be mentioned, but I don t know about them and can t shorten it with my current knowledge. I wish and I could have found a step-by-step guide, even if flawed, three months ago when we first got this problem—so I offer this one to help anyone it can.Step 1 - Place Internet Orders for Long Term ReliefIt will take you about a week to receive all of the products you need to fight the bugs, so your first step should be to order the products. We have tried many options recommended by others and ones we thought of on our own. These are the products that have produced the best results, most of which are not commonly available and need to be ordered. I have broken these products down into two categories - products to fix the problem in your house / car / workplace, and products to help the problem on your skin.Products to Clean Your Environment - You should order ALL of these products, they are all important, so don t skip any of them just because they seem unfamiliar right now. Feel free to shop around to get the best price.Diatomaceous Earth - DE is the fossilized remains of single cell diatoms. Diatoms look like a knife blade under the microscope, and they act like crushed glass to insects causing rapid dehydration. There are two kinds, amorphous (food grade) and crystalline. The crystalline type is made by subjecting the DE to heat, which changes the structure of the amorphous silica into crystalline silica. Crystalline DE is useful for filtering applications (pools, labs, etc) however it can cause silicosis if inhaled, and is ineffective against insects. You will want the amorphous silica food grade DE, which you will almost certainly need to order.Prices for food-grade DE vary dramatically. If you buy it in gel-caps as a supplement it will cost you $200/lb, however if you buy it in bulk you can get it for less then $1/lb. We bought a 50 lb bag for under $50 from Wolf Creek Ranch, however you can get smaller quantities for a reasonable price from Yardiac GardenCenter.You will need about 1 lb to dust a 1500 sq ft house and 2-3 lbs for personal use (in shoes, on your bed, etc). This will get you about 1-2 weeks of treatment. We have used about 15 lbs since we got the stuff. We found out about this product from an out-of-town exterminator friend.Pyrethrum Powder - If you read much about this problem you will hear repeatedly that pyrethroids are ineffective against these mites. This is partially true in that a pyrethroid alone will almost certainly not work, however we had good success using it in combination with DE. I think that these insects quickly become immune to pyrethroids, so you will want to use the powder the right way so that you get rid of them the first time.I tried a synthetic pyrethroid (cypermethrin) in our cars (with a fogger) and it made a big difference the first time (not a total fix, but it helped a lot), however within a week they were back stronger then ever and additional uses of the fogger didn t seem to do anything at all.The option I would use if I did it over again would be to purchase pyrethrum powder (shop around, this is just an example). What we did use was a dog flea powder (0.5% permethrin) that we bought locally for a very expensive price ($5 / 4 oz).Mix the (cont) .... or , my favorite the farmers tips 1 tbls Borax disolved in 3 oz of hot water & added to 12 oz any hand creme , (healthy type is best like cheap 365 brand from whole foods )Farmes tips repasted .... Bye bye bug : Mites and farmer trickslinkbird mites/message/10634I don't know where you people are from, whether it be city, or too far north to know this, but "mites" are nothing new, and there is nothing "foreign about them.I was raised, and still live in Louisiana, which is called, "semi-tropical. " I was raised on a farm/ranch. There are so many different types of mites, that bite, that I will not begin to try to list many; I will give a few examples. Warm blooded animals get lice; plants get lice; they are not the same type of lice. the "lice" that infest your turnip green patch, will not bite you because it suddenly "got warmer" in the US. The mites and lice that infest your chicken house, will not be satisfied with sucking on turnip greens; but they will crawl all over a human and give you the "itch" for many days after you have gotten rid of the mites. There are "redbugs," picked up from walking through grass, brush, or sometimes dirt. They will burrow under your skin and make you want totake a wire brush and shed your won hide off. There are seed ticks that will cover you from brushing against the wrong tree limb, or infest your living roomwhen you buy that "real" tree at Christmas. The "Mange" in dogs, or as we humans dislike having to call it, "Scabies," that will infest you and all your pets. There are hog lice, chiken mites, Sarcopic mange, ring worm, ( & scores of other funguses from cattle and horses and dogs), that humans can get. There is the "creeping crud," a fungus, that sometimes does not show to the naked eye for months, but will make you claw until you bleed, usually starting at the ankles and working up; it lives in the soil. While we back woods, country people may call all these vermin and varmints funny names, and we may seem stupid to some, we know these critters you are talking about; they were here in the US long before you went overseas. It is just as possible that you caught it from your Georgia tent mate when he returned from leave, as it is that you caught it in Iraq, or some other "hot" place.We have put a couple of cap fulls of pine oil or bleach in our bath water for years; we have cleaned our houses with pine oil for hundreds of years. We have dabbed pine oil, turpintine, and sometimes if desperate enough, coal oil, on redbugs, (and various other critters that attached themselves to us), to kill them for hundreds of years. We have coated ourselves in various kinds of fats, mud, and paste to keep them off, and to kill them when they decided to live on us anyway. We have bathed in baking soda, salt and epsoms salt to keep from itching; smeared paste from mustard, baking soda and tobacco to help. We have taken the "skin" from egg shells and pit on bad bites, to draw the "itch" out. We have chewed on the sulphur ends of hard matches, and made a paste out of "flowers of sulfur;" which bugs hate the smell of, and it keeps the bites from getting infected. One of the bad things about itchy bites, it all that scratching and hot, blooding flesh, attracts even more critters.As for borax; you can buy "20 Mule Team"borax powder; it's been around longer than any of us. We wash with it, neutralize orors with it, remove stains with it, etc. Most of all, down here, we have been rubbing it on our meat in our smoke houses for ages; flies won't even light on it. we just wash it off when we take it out to eat. I heard in the eighties, that they were "blowing" recycled, chipped up, news papers into the walls of old historical homes to insulate them. Guess what they were soaking the news paper in prior to drying and chopping it up? That's right...Borax. Not only does it kill bugs, repel bugs, repel rodents and prevent them from chewing and nesting in the paper insulation, but it makes the paper fire retardent. You can make your on roach and ant bait with it by mixing it with flour and sugar, or just corn syrup and Borax. You can use it like carpet fresh, and you can wash your walls and floors and counters with it; use it as a paste for scrubbing; just don't rinse it too well, and you will see a lessening of itchy critters. And for people that want their clothes clean, but do not like fragrance fumes, etc., it's the best for your laundry.If the varmints are eating your ankles up, mix some borax with your lotion or vaseline; it will repel them and has antibiotic propertiesSummary : Borax$3.99Mustard 2.00skin of egg $1.99 haven't tried that one yet coaltar shampoo 5.99pinesol $4.00bleach .69 sulphur $12.00 www.Americarx.combaking soda $1.00tobacco $4.00 fats .01 off a steak mud $.00 and make s pastePretty cheap ! And they work God bless you , Billps menthol will make any bug fle for it dear life , right thru the powders & kill it .. It airs out in 15 mins & smells awesome after ) I lever the house for 1 hr while doing it , it make the HIDING MEAN ONES COME OUT & run thru the borax , DE or Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent , thus dead bugs ...On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 9:29 AM EST Benton wrote:>This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes.>Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.>Love and light,>>>Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> >Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network>May 17, 2010 "Contribute content likethis. Start Here." >• More: >• Septicemia >• Algae >• >• tweet0>• Print>Flag >AdChoices>>>> >If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. >Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. >The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spreadthroughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. >There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. >Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Gosh , as you hadn't been through enough... so sorry you have to deal with the next bunch of critters, unbelievable. You seem to be a magnet for whatever is out there. I know you are an expert and am sure you will beat this, wishing you the best of luck for a quick recovery. Were the old issues under control, or are you dealing with multiples now? Healing hugs, Aggi Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >Gesendet: 23:41 Sonntag, 13.November 2011 Betreff: Re: Mites are bothering me again Thanks Bill:) You are a dear! I've resumed my soda bathes, which kill them, and the olive leaf which help remove any webbing and eggs still on the body along with dead skin. For the first time, I tried olive oil on the body, head, and in the ears. I read a woman who got rid of them in four months doing it. Not only is it working, but it seems to be pulling mold or fungus from my viens. I don't have vericos viens, but when that stuff surfaces in the vessels, I have dark ones on my ankle. A jump in my soda bath always pulls it out. I thought I'd do the coconut oil in the day and the olive oil at night. I've been through this so many times, I know I can beat it. I am doing so much better but feel impatient to finally reach the end when I am no longer threatened by whichever bug is available at the time. Thus is the walk we all have to make: two steps forward and one step back. Love and light, From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:56 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Hi Bugs are bugs , kill thenthey will die , they have been popping around here at my house too , I powder them & take an Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent bath 1 cup for 30 mins . Then as Shan sayshttp://www.shanspirations.org/?p=112HomeAbout MeOur StoryShanspirationsBlessed to Be a Homekeeper: My Everyday Education, My Everyday Delights.Help! I m Being Bit By Something I Can t See! What do I do?After nearly three months of dealing with some sort of invisible biting bug I d like to take a moment to detail what we would do if we knew at the start what we know now. If you find this post and you have just started experiencing this problem, this is a best practices snapshot of our current knowledge and experience.This is a guideline for getting rid of the bites . I suspect that this guide could be shortened and that other very effective products could be mentioned, but I don t know about them and can t shorten it with my current knowledge. I wish and I could have found a step-by-step guide, even if flawed, three months ago when we first got this problem—so I offer this one to help anyone it can.Step 1 - Place Internet Orders for Long Term ReliefIt will take you about a week to receive all of the products you need to fight the bugs, so your first step should be to order the products. We have tried many options recommended by others and ones we thought of on our own. These are the products that have produced the best results, most of which are not commonly available and need to be ordered. I have broken these products down into two categories - products to fix the problem in your house / car / workplace, and products to help the problem on your skin.Products to Clean Your Environment - You should order ALL of these products, they are all important, so don t skip any of them just because they seem unfamiliar right now. Feel free to shop around to get the best price.Diatomaceous Earth - DE is the fossilized remains of single cell diatoms. Diatoms look like a knife blade under the microscope, and they act like crushed glass to insects causing rapid dehydration. There are two kinds, amorphous (food grade) and crystalline. The crystalline type is made by subjecting the DE to heat, which changes the structure of the amorphous silica into crystalline silica. Crystalline DE is useful for filtering applications (pools, labs, etc) however it can cause silicosis if inhaled, and is ineffective against insects. You will want the amorphous silica food grade DE, which you will almost certainly need to order.Prices for food-grade DE vary dramatically. If you buy it in gel-caps as a supplement it will cost you $200/lb, however if you buy it in bulk you can get it for less then $1/lb. We bought a 50 lb bag for under $50 from Wolf Creek Ranch, however you can get smaller quantities for a reasonable price from Yardiac GardenCenter.You will need about 1 lb to dust a 1500 sq ft house and 2-3 lbs for personal use (in shoes, on your bed, etc). This will get you about 1-2 weeks of treatment. We have used about 15 lbs since we got the stuff. We found out about this product from an out-of-town exterminator friend.Pyrethrum Powder - If you read much about this problem you will hear repeatedly that pyrethroids are ineffective against these mites. This is partially true in that a pyrethroid alone will almost certainly not work, however we had good success using it in combination with DE. I think that these insects quickly become immune to pyrethroids, so you will want to use the powder the right way so that you get rid of them the first time.I tried a synthetic pyrethroid (cypermethrin) in our cars (with a fogger) and it made a big difference the first time (not a total fix, but it helped a lot), however within a week they were back stronger then ever and additional uses of the fogger didn t seem to do anything at all.The option I would use if I did it over again would be to purchase pyrethrum powder (shop around, this is just an example). What we did use was a dog flea powder (0.5% permethrin) that we bought locally for a very expensive price ($5 / 4 oz).Mix the (cont) .... or , my favorite the farmers tips 1 tbls Borax disolved in 3 oz of hot water & added to 12 oz any hand creme , (healthy type is best like cheap 365 brand from whole foods )Farmes tips repasted .... Bye bye bug : Mites and farmer trickslinkbird mites/message/10634I don't know where you people are from, whether it be city, or too far north to know this, but "mites" are nothing new, and there is nothing "foreign about them.I was raised, and still live in Louisiana, which is called, "semi-tropical. " I was raised on a farm/ranch. There are so many different types of mites, that bite, that I will not begin to try to list many; I will give a few examples. Warm blooded animals get lice; plants get lice; they are not the same type of lice. the "lice" that infest your turnip green patch, will not bite you because it suddenly "got warmer" in the US. The mites and lice that infest your chicken house, will not be satisfied with sucking on turnip greens; but they will crawl all over a human and give you the "itch" for many days after you have gotten rid of the mites. There are "redbugs," picked up from walking through grass, brush, or sometimes dirt. They will burrow under your skin and make you want totake a wire brush and shed your won hide off. There are seed ticks that will cover you from brushing against the wrong tree limb, or infest your living roomwhen you buy that "real" tree at Christmas. The "Mange" in dogs, or as we humans dislike having to call it, "Scabies," that will infest you and all your pets. There are hog lice, chiken mites, Sarcopic mange, ring worm, ( & scores of other funguses from cattle and horses and dogs), that humans can get. There is the "creeping crud," a fungus, that sometimes does not show to the naked eye for months, but will make you claw until you bleed, usually starting at the ankles and working up; it lives in the soil. While we back woods, country people may call all these vermin and varmints funny names, and we may seem stupid to some, we know these critters you are talking about; they were here in the US long before you went overseas. It is just as possible that you caught it from your Georgia tent mate when he returned from leave, as it is that you caught it in Iraq, or some other "hot" place.We have put a couple of cap fulls of pine oil or bleach in our bath water for years; we have cleaned our houses with pine oil for hundreds of years. We have dabbed pine oil, turpintine, and sometimes if desperate enough, coal oil, on redbugs, (and various other critters that attached themselves to us), to kill them for hundreds of years. We have coated ourselves in various kinds of fats, mud, and paste to keep them off, and to kill them when they decided to live on us anyway. We have bathed in baking soda, salt and epsoms salt to keep from itching; smeared paste from mustard, baking soda and tobacco to help. We have taken the "skin" from egg shells and pit on bad bites, to draw the "itch" out. We have chewed on the sulphur ends of hard matches, and made a paste out of "flowers of sulfur;" which bugs hate the smell of, and it keeps the bites from getting infected. One of the bad things about itchy bites, it all that scratching and hot, blooding flesh, attracts even more critters.As for borax; you can buy "20 Mule Team"borax powder; it's been around longer than any of us. We wash with it, neutralize orors with it, remove stains with it, etc. Most of all, down here, we have been rubbing it on our meat in our smoke houses for ages; flies won't even light on it. we just wash it off when we take it out to eat. I heard in the eighties, that they were "blowing" recycled, chipped up, news papers into the walls of old historical homes to insulate them. Guess what they were soaking the news paper in prior to drying and chopping it up? That's right...Borax. Not only does it kill bugs, repel bugs, repel rodents and prevent them from chewing and nesting in the paper insulation, but it makes the paper fire retardent. You can make your on roach and ant bait with it by mixing it with flour and sugar, or just corn syrup and Borax. You can use it like carpet fresh, and you can wash your walls and floors and counters with it; use it as a paste for scrubbing; just don't rinse it too well, and you will see a lessening of itchy critters. And for people that want their clothes clean, but do not like fragrance fumes, etc., it's the best for your laundry.If the varmints are eating your ankles up, mix some borax with your lotion or vaseline; it will repel them and has antibiotic propertiesSummary : Borax$3.99Mustard 2.00skin of egg $1.99 haven't tried that one yet coaltar shampoo 5.99pinesol $4.00bleach .69 sulphur $12.00 www.Americarx.combaking soda $1.00tobacco $4.00 fats .01 off a steak mud $.00 and make s pastePretty cheap ! And they work God bless you , Billps menthol will make any bug fle for it dear life , right thru the powders & kill it . It airs out in 15 mins & smells awesome after ) I lever the house for 1 hr while doing it , it make the HIDING MEAN ONES COME OUT & run thru the borax , DE or Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent , thus dead bugs ...On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 9:29 AM EST Benton wrote:>This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes.>Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.>Love and light,>>>Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> >Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network>May 17, 2010 "Contribute content likethis. Start Here." >• More: >• Septicemia >• Algae >• >• tweet0>• Print>Flag >AdChoices>>>> >If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. >Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. >The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spreadthroughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. >There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. >Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Thanks Aggi. No more lesions and hardly any plastic things coming from my body. If it weren't for the mite attack, I'd think I was better. I do notice I am hertzing lots of black mold or fungus from my skin and I guess it is ringing the dinner bell. The same areas that are hertzing are getting smaller and smaller as they can be visibly identified, so maybe I just must continue and cross my fingers until its finally done. I'm also aware that my apartment is the only one in the building with an attic door. Could be I need to move again as this may be a seasonal attack due to location. Sounds like you have an exciting trip ahead of you. Have you been to Egypt before? My holiday break is coming and I'lll be on more then. Always a lesson plan to write otherwise. Enjoy! Love and light, From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 5:55 PMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Gosh , as you hadn't been through enough... so sorry you have to deal with the next bunch of critters, unbelievable. You seem to be a magnet for whatever is out there. I know you are an expert and am sure you will beat this, wishing you the best of luck for a quick recovery. Were the old issues under control, or are you dealing with multiples now? Healing hugs, Aggi Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >Gesendet: 23:41 Sonntag, 13.November 2011 Betreff: Re: Mites are bothering me again Thanks Bill:) You are a dear! I've resumed my soda bathes, which kill them, and the olive leaf which help remove any webbing and eggs still on the body along with dead skin. For the first time, I tried olive oil on the body, head, and in the ears. I read a woman who got rid of them in four months doing it. Not only is it working, but it seems to be pulling mold or fungus from my viens. I don't have vericos viens, but when that stuff surfaces in the vessels, I have dark ones on my ankle. A jump in my soda bath always pulls it out. I thought I'd do the coconut oil in the day and the olive oil at night. I've been through this so many times, I know I can beat it. I am doing so much better but feel impatient to finally reach the end when I am no longer threatened by whichever bug is available at the time. Thus is the walk we all have to make: two steps forward and one step back. Love and light, From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:56 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Hi Bugs are bugs , kill thenthey will die , they have been popping around here at my house too , I powder them & take an Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent bath 1 cup for 30 mins . Then as Shan sayshttp://www.shanspirations.org/?p=112HomeAbout MeOur StoryShanspirationsBlessed to Be a Homekeeper: My Everyday Education, My Everyday Delights.Help! I m Being Bit By Something I Can t See! What do I do?After nearly three months of dealing with some sort of invisible biting bug I d like to take a moment to detail what we would do if we knew at the start what we know now. If you find this post and you have just started experiencing this problem, this is a best practices snapshot of our current knowledge and experience.This is a guideline for getting rid of the bites . I suspect that this guide could be shortened and that other very effective products could be mentioned, but I don t know about them and can t shorten it with my current knowledge. I wish and I could have found a step-by-step guide, even if flawed, three months ago when we first got this problem—so I offer this one to help anyone it can.Step 1 - Place Internet Orders for Long Term ReliefIt will take you about a week to receive all of the products you need to fight the bugs, so your first step should be to order the products. We have tried many options recommended by others and ones we thought of on our own. These are the products that have produced the best results, most of which are not commonly available and need to be ordered. I have broken these products down into two categories - products to fix the problem in your house / car / workplace, and products to help the problem on your skin.Products to Clean Your Environment - You should order ALL of these products, they are all important, so don t skip any of them just because they seem unfamiliar right now. Feel free to shop around to get the best price.Diatomaceous Earth - DE is the fossilized remains of single cell diatoms. Diatoms look like a knife blade under the microscope, and they act like crushed glass to insects causing rapid dehydration. There are two kinds, amorphous (food grade) and crystalline. The crystalline type is made by subjecting the DE to heat, which changes the structure of the amorphous silica into crystalline silica. Crystalline DE is useful for filtering applications (pools, labs, etc) however it can cause silicosis if inhaled, and is ineffective against insects. You will want the amorphous silica food grade DE, which you will almost certainly need to order.Prices for food-grade DE vary dramatically. If you buy it in gel-caps as a supplement it will cost you $200/lb, however if you buy it in bulk you can get it for less then $1/lb. We bought a 50 lb bag for under $50 from Wolf Creek Ranch, however you can get smaller quantities for a reasonable price from Yardiac GardenCenter.You will need about 1 lb to dust a 1500 sq ft house and 2-3 lbs for personal use (in shoes, on your bed, etc). This will get you about 1-2 weeks of treatment. We have used about 15 lbs since we got the stuff. We found out about this product from an out-of-town exterminator friend.Pyrethrum Powder - If you read much about this problem you will hear repeatedly that pyrethroids are ineffective against these mites. This is partially true in that a pyrethroid alone will almost certainly not work, however we had good success using it in combination with DE. I think that these insects quickly become immune to pyrethroids, so you will want to use the powder the right way so that you get rid of them the first time.I tried a synthetic pyrethroid (cypermethrin) in our cars (with a fogger) and it made a big difference the first time (not a total fix, but it helped a lot), however within a week they were back stronger then ever and additional uses of the fogger didn t seem to do anything at all.The option I would use if I did it over again would be to purchase pyrethrum powder (shop around, this is just an example). What we did use was a dog flea powder (0.5% permethrin) that we bought locally for a very expensive price ($5 / 4 oz).Mix the (cont) .... or , my favorite the farmers tips 1 tbls Borax disolved in 3 oz of hot water & added to 12 oz any hand creme , (healthy type is best like cheap 365 brand from whole foods )Farmes tips repasted .... Bye bye bug : Mites and farmer trickslinkbird mites/message/10634I don't know where you people are from, whether it be city, or too far north to know this, but "mites" are nothing new, and there is nothing "foreign about them.I was raised, and still live in Louisiana, which is called, "semi-tropical. " I was raised on a farm/ranch. There are so many different types of mites, that bite, that I will not begin to try to list many; I will give a few examples. Warm blooded animals get lice; plants get lice; they are not the same type of lice. the "lice" that infest your turnip green patch, will not bite you because it suddenly "got warmer" in the US. The mites and lice that infest your chicken house, will not be satisfied with sucking on turnip greens; but they will crawl all over a human and give you the "itch" for many days after you have gotten rid of the mites. There are "redbugs," picked up from walking through grass, brush, or sometimes dirt. They will burrow under your skin and make you want totake a wire brush and shed your won hide off. There are seed ticks that will cover you from brushing against the wrong tree limb, or infest your living roomwhen you buy that "real" tree at Christmas. The "Mange" in dogs, or as we humans dislike having to call it, "Scabies," that will infest you and all your pets. There are hog lice, chiken mites, Sarcopic mange, ring worm, ( & scores of other funguses from cattle and horses and dogs), that humans can get. There is the "creeping crud," a fungus, that sometimes does not show to the naked eye for months, but will make you claw until you bleed, usually starting at the ankles and working up; it lives in the soil. While we back woods, country people may call all these vermin and varmints funny names, and we may seem stupid to some, we know these critters you are talking about; they were here in the US long before you went overseas. It is just as possible that you caught it from your Georgia tent mate when he returned from leave, as it is that you caught it in Iraq, or some other "hot" place.We have put a couple of cap fulls of pine oil or bleach in our bath water for years; we have cleaned our houses with pine oil for hundreds of years. We have dabbed pine oil, turpintine, and sometimes if desperate enough, coal oil, on redbugs, (and various other critters that attached themselves to us), to kill them for hundreds of years. We have coated ourselves in various kinds of fats, mud, and paste to keep them off, and to kill them when they decided to live on us anyway. We have bathed in baking soda, salt and epsoms salt to keep from itching; smeared paste from mustard, baking soda and tobacco to help. We have taken the "skin" from egg shells and pit on bad bites, to draw the "itch" out. We have chewed on the sulphur ends of hard matches, and made a paste out of "flowers of sulfur;" which bugs hate the smell of, and it keeps the bites from getting infected. One of the bad things about itchy bites, it all that scratching and hot, blooding flesh, attracts even more critters.As for borax; you can buy "20 Mule Team"borax powder; it's been around longer than any of us. We wash with it, neutralize orors with it, remove stains with it, etc. Most of all, down here, we have been rubbing it on our meat in our smoke houses for ages; flies won't even light on it. we just wash it off when we take it out to eat. I heard in the eighties, that they were "blowing" recycled, chipped up, news papers into the walls of old historical homes to insulate them. Guess what they were soaking the news paper in prior to drying and chopping it up? That's right...Borax. Not only does it kill bugs, repel bugs, repel rodents and prevent them from chewing and nesting in the paper insulation, but it makes the paper fire retardent. You can make your on roach and ant bait with it by mixing it with flour and sugar, or just corn syrup and Borax. You can use it like carpet fresh, and you can wash your walls and floors and counters with it; use it as a paste for scrubbing; just don't rinse it too well, and you will see a lessening of itchy critters. And for people that want their clothes clean, but do not like fragrance fumes, etc., it's the best for your laundry.If the varmints are eating your ankles up, mix some borax with your lotion or vaseline; it will repel them and has antibiotic propertiesSummary : Borax$3.99Mustard 2.00skin of egg $1.99 haven't tried that one yet coaltar shampoo 5.99pinesol $4.00bleach .69 sulphur $12.00 www.Americarx.combaking soda $1.00tobacco $4.00 fats .01 off a steak mud $.00 and make s pastePretty cheap ! And they work God bless you , Billps menthol will make any bug fle for it dear life , right thru the powders & kill it . It airs out in 15 mins & smells awesome after ) I lever the house for 1 hr while doing it , it make the HIDING MEAN ONES COME OUT & run thru the borax , DE or Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent , thus dead bugs ...On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 9:29 AM EST Benton wrote:>This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes.>Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.>Love and light,>>>Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> >Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network>May 17, 2010 "Contribute content likethis. Start Here." >• More: >• Septicemia >• Algae >• >• tweet0>• Print>Flag >AdChoices>>>> >If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. >Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. >The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spreadthroughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. >There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. >Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 I don't know . But the more information we collect, the better armed we are. So far, it's the only explanation I can think of. Have we heard about Krye's mother lately? He's been off the air for awhile. Love and light, From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:14 PMSubject: Re: Re: Mites are bothering me again , This is very good information. I had never heard of this before... I wonder if it is man-made? It almost sounds like that could cause Morgellons. Maybe some of the symptoms do not sound like Morgellons but the oozing sores do sound like it. Or am I just reading into this? Also concerns me that cows might be infected with it. From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 8:57:31 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Very interesting. I have concerns about algae and fungus. Using algae, man made for fuel is insane yet they continue. Grow hemp for bio-fuel makes much better sense.>> This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes.> Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.> Love and light,> > > Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> > Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network> May 17, 2010 "Contribute content like this. Start Here." > • More: > • Septicemia > • Algae > • > • tweet0> • Print> Flag > AdChoices> > > > > If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. > Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. > The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spread throughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. > There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. > Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality.>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 I love the way we all do care for each other !! Krys has got his daughter over. She is keeping him busy lately :-) Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >Gesendet: 0:52 Montag, 14.November 2011 Betreff: Re: Re: Mites are bothering me again I don't know . But the more information we collect, the better armed we are. So far, it's the only explanation I can think of. Have we heard about Krye's mother lately? He's been off the air for awhile. Love and light, From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:14 PMSubject: Re: Re: Mites are bothering me again , This is very good information. I had never heard of this before... I wonder if it is man-made? It almost sounds like that could cause Morgellons. Maybe some of the symptoms do not sound like Morgellons but the oozing sores do sound like it. Or am I just reading into this? Also concerns me that cows might be infected with it. From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 8:57:31 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Very interesting. I have concerns about algae and fungus. Using algae, man made for fuel is insane yet they continue. Grow hemp for bio-fuel makes much better sense.>> This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes.> Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.> Love and light,> > > Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> > Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network> May 17, 2010 "Contribute content like this. Start Here." > • More: > • Septicemia > • Algae > • > • tweet0> • Print> Flag > AdChoices> > > > > If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. > Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. > The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spread throughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. > There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. > Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality.>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 The last I remember Krys's mum was going to send family pictures to him and he was not sure where to store them at his house. His daughter had gone to visit his mum and I'm thinking she is home by now from her visit. I don't know how mum is doing though. Mum paid for her granddaughter to stay at a hotel away from the house... she sounds like a sweetheart like Krys.From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 3:52:47 PMSubject: Re: Re: Mites are bothering me again I don't know . But the more information we collect, the better armed we are. So far, it's the only explanation I can think of. Have we heard about Krye's mother lately? He's been off the air for awhile. Love and light, From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:14 PMSubject: Re: Re: Mites are bothering me again , This is very good information. I had never heard of this before... I wonder if it is man-made? It almost sounds like that could cause Morgellons. Maybe some of the symptoms do not sound like Morgellons but the oozing sores do sound like it. Or am I just reading into this? Also concerns me that cows might be infected with it. From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 8:57:31 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Very interesting. I have concerns about algae and fungus. Using algae, man made for fuel is insane yet they continue. Grow hemp for bio-fuel makes much better sense.>> This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes.> Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.> Love and light,> > > Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> > Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network> May 17, 2010 "Contribute content like this. Start Here." > • More: > • Septicemia > • Algae > • > • tweet0> • Print> Flag > AdChoices> > > > > If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. > Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. > The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spread throughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. > There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. > Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality.>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 I don't always comment on a post, but I read everyone of them. I notice when someone is not posting for awhile. Thanks From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:56 AMSubject: Re: Re: Mites are bothering me again The last I remember Krys's mum was going to send family pictures to him and he was not sure where to store them at his house. His daughter had gone to visit his mum and I'm thinking she is home by now from her visit. I don't know how mum is doing though. Mum paid for her granddaughter to stay at a hotel away from the house... she sounds like a sweetheart like Krys. From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 3:52:47 PMSubject: Re: Re: Mites are bothering me again I don't know . But the more information we collect, the better armed we are. So far, it's the only explanation I can think of. Have we heard about Krye's mother lately? He's been off the air for awhile. Love and light, From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:14 PMSubject: Re: Re: Mites are bothering me again , This is very good information. I had never heard of this before... I wonder if it is man-made? It almost sounds like that could cause Morgellons. Maybe some of the symptoms do not sound like Morgellons but the oozing sores do sound like it. Or am I just reading into this? Also concerns me that cows might be infected with it. From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 8:57:31 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Very interesting. I have concerns about algae and fungus. Using algae, man made for fuel is insane yet they continue. Grow hemp for bio-fuel makes much better sense.>> This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes.> Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.> Love and light,> > > Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> > Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network> May 17, 2010 "Contribute content like this. Start Here." > • More: > • Septicemia > • Algae > • > • tweet0> • Print> Flag > AdChoices> > > > > If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. > Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. > The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spread throughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. > There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. > Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality.>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Hi, ! I am so sorry to hear that you are attacked again by another bug. When will it all end. I keep my fingers crossed for you. Cecilia From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 11:41 PMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Thanks Bill:) You are a dear! I've resumed my soda bathes, which kill them, and the olive leaf which help remove any webbing and eggs still on the body along with dead skin. For the first time, I tried olive oil on the body, head, and in the ears. I read a woman who got rid of them in four months doing it. Not only is it working, but it seems to be pulling mold or fungus from my viens. I don't have vericos viens, but when that stuff surfaces in the vessels, I have dark ones on my ankle. A jump in my soda bath always pulls it out. I thought I'd do the coconut oil in the day and the olive oil at night. I've been through this so many times, I know I can beat it. I am doing so much better but feel impatient to finally reach the end when I am no longer threatened by whichever bug is available at the time. Thus is the walk we all have to make: two steps forward and one step back. Love and light, From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:56 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Hi Bugs are bugs , kill thenthey will die , they have been popping around here at my house too , I powder them & take an Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent bath 1 cup for 30 mins . Then as Shan sayshttp://www.shanspirations.org/?p=112HomeAbout MeOur StoryShanspirationsBlessed to Be a Homekeeper: My Everyday Education, My Everyday Delights.Help! I m Being Bit By Something I Can t See! What do I do?After nearly three months of dealing with some sort of invisible biting bug I d like to take a moment to detail what we would do if we knew at the start what we know now. If you find this post and you have just started experiencing this problem, this is a best practices snapshot of our current knowledge and experience.This is a guideline for getting rid of the bites . I suspect that this guide could be shortened and that other very effective products could be mentioned, but I don t know about them and can t shorten it with my current knowledge. I wish and I could have found a step-by-step guide, even if flawed, three months ago when we first got this problem—so I offer this one to help anyone it can.Step 1 - Place Internet Orders for Long Term ReliefIt will take you about a week to receive all of the products you need to fight the bugs, so your first step should be to order the products. We have tried many options recommended by others and ones we thought of on our own. These are the products that have produced the best results, most of which are not commonly available and need to be ordered. I have broken these products down into two categories - products to fix the problem in your house / car / workplace, and products to help the problem on your skin.Products to Clean Your Environment - You should order ALL of these products, they are all important, so don t skip any of them just because they seem unfamiliar right now. Feel free to shop around to get the best price.Diatomaceous Earth - DE is the fossilized remains of single cell diatoms. Diatoms look like a knife blade under the microscope, and they act like crushed glass to insects causing rapid dehydration. There are two kinds, amorphous (food grade) and crystalline. The crystalline type is made by subjecting the DE to heat, which changes the structure of the amorphous silica into crystalline silica. Crystalline DE is useful for filtering applications (pools, labs, etc) however it can cause silicosis if inhaled, and is ineffective against insects. You will want the amorphous silica food grade DE, which you will almost certainly need to order.Prices for food-grade DE vary dramatically. If you buy it in gel-caps as a supplement it will cost you $200/lb, however if you buy it in bulk you can get it for less then $1/lb. We bought a 50 lb bag for under $50 from Wolf Creek Ranch, however you can get smaller quantities for a reasonable price from Yardiac GardenCenter.You will need about 1 lb to dust a 1500 sq ft house and 2-3 lbs for personal use (in shoes, on your bed, etc). This will get you about 1-2 weeks of treatment. We have used about 15 lbs since we got the stuff. We found out about this product from an out-of-town exterminator friend.Pyrethrum Powder - If you read much about this problem you will hear repeatedly that pyrethroids are ineffective against these mites. This is partially true in that a pyrethroid alone will almost certainly not work, however we had good success using it in combination with DE. I think that these insects quickly become immune to pyrethroids, so you will want to use the powder the right way so that you get rid of them the first time.I tried a synthetic pyrethroid (cypermethrin) in our cars (with a fogger) and it made a big difference the first time (not a total fix, but it helped a lot), however within a week they were back stronger then ever and additional uses of the fogger didn t seem to do anything at all.The option I would use if I did it over again would be to purchase pyrethrum powder (shop around, this is just an example). What we did use was a dog flea powder (0.5% permethrin) that we bought locally for a very expensive price ($5 / 4 oz).Mix the (cont) .... or , my favorite the farmers tips 1 tbls Borax disolved in 3 oz of hot water & added to 12 oz any hand creme , (healthy type is best like cheap 365 brand from whole foods )Farmes tips repasted .... Bye bye bug : Mites and farmer trickslinkbird mites/message/10634I don't know where you people are from, whether it be city, or too far north to know this, but "mites" are nothing new, and there is nothing "foreign about them.I was raised, and still live in Louisiana, which is called, "semi-tropical. " I was raised on a farm/ranch. There are so many different types of mites, that bite, that I will not begin to try to list many; I will give a few examples. Warm blooded animals get lice; plants get lice; they are not the same type of lice. the "lice" that infest your turnip green patch, will not bite you because it suddenly "got warmer" in the US. The mites and lice that infest your chicken house, will not be satisfied with sucking on turnip greens; but they will crawl all over a human and give you the "itch" for many days after you have gotten rid of the mites. There are "redbugs," picked up from walking through grass, brush, or sometimes dirt. They will burrow under your skin and make you want totake a wire brush and shed your won hide off. There are seed ticks that will cover you from brushing against the wrong tree limb, or infest your living roomwhen you buy that "real" tree at Christmas. The "Mange" in dogs, or as we humans dislike having to call it, "Scabies," that will infest you and all your pets. There are hog lice, chiken mites, Sarcopic mange, ring worm, ( & scores of other funguses from cattle and horses and dogs), that humans can get. There is the "creeping crud," a fungus, that sometimes does not show to the naked eye for months, but will make you claw until you bleed, usually starting at the ankles and working up; it lives in the soil. While we back woods, country people may call all these vermin and varmints funny names, and we may seem stupid to some, we know these critters you are talking about; they were here in the US long before you went overseas. It is just as possible that you caught it from your Georgia tent mate when he returned from leave, as it is that you caught it in Iraq, or some other "hot" place.We have put a couple of cap fulls of pine oil or bleach in our bath water for years; we have cleaned our houses with pine oil for hundreds of years. We have dabbed pine oil, turpintine, and sometimes if desperate enough, coal oil, on redbugs, (and various other critters that attached themselves to us), to kill them for hundreds of years. We have coated ourselves in various kinds of fats, mud, and paste to keep them off, and to kill them when they decided to live on us anyway. We have bathed in baking soda, salt and epsoms salt to keep from itching; smeared paste from mustard, baking soda and tobacco to help. We have taken the "skin" from egg shells and pit on bad bites, to draw the "itch" out. We have chewed on the sulphur ends of hard matches, and made a paste out of "flowers of sulfur;" which bugs hate the smell of, and it keeps the bites from getting infected. One of the bad things about itchy bites, it all that scratching and hot, blooding flesh, attracts even more critters.As for borax; you can buy "20 Mule Team"borax powder; it's been around longer than any of us. We wash with it, neutralize orors with it, remove stains with it, etc. Most of all, down here, we have been rubbing it on our meat in our smoke houses for ages; flies won't even light on it. we just wash it off when we take it out to eat. I heard in the eighties, that they were "blowing" recycled, chipped up, news papers into the walls of old historical homes to insulate them. Guess what they were soaking the news paper in prior to drying and chopping it up? That's right...Borax. Not only does it kill bugs, repel bugs, repel rodents and prevent them from chewing and nesting in the paper insulation, but it makes the paper fire retardent. You can make your on roach and ant bait with it by mixing it with flour and sugar, or just corn syrup and Borax. You can use it like carpet fresh, and you can wash your walls and floors and counters with it; use it as a paste for scrubbing; just don't rinse it too well, and you will see a lessening of itchy critters. And for people that want their clothes clean, but do not like fragrance fumes, etc., it's the best for your laundry.If the varmints are eating your ankles up, mix some borax with your lotion or vaseline; it will repel them and has antibiotic propertiesSummary : Borax$3.99Mustard 2.00skin of egg $1.99 haven't tried that one yet coaltar shampoo 5.99pinesol $4.00bleach .69 sulphur $12.00 www.Americarx.combaking soda $1.00tobacco $4.00 fats .01 off a steak mud $.00 and make s pastePretty cheap ! And they work God bless you , Billps menthol will make any bug fle for it dear life , right thru the powders & kill it . It airs out in 15 mins & smells awesome after ) I lever the house for 1 hr while doing it , it make the HIDING MEAN ONES COME OUT & run thru the borax , DE or Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent , thus dead bugs ...On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 9:29 AM EST Benton wrote:>This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes.>Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.>Love and light,>>>Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> >Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network>May 17, 2010 "Contribute content likethis. Start Here." >• More: >• Septicemia >• Algae >• >• tweet0>• Print>Flag >AdChoices>>>> >If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. >Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. >The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spreadthroughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. >There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. >Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Thanks Cecilia. I haven't been bothered since I covered myself in olive oil. I seemed to think they were hatching out of my skin. The olive oil seemed to pull them and lots of sand out. I'll know in time if all is well again. I've been wondering about what you said. You said one child had bumps with clear fluid filled blisters in the middle. That sounds like Shingles. Have the doctors seen this? Love and light, From: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:10 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Hi, ! I am so sorry to hear that you are attacked again by another bug. When will it all end. I keep my fingers crossed for you. Cecilia From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 11:41 PMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Thanks Bill:) You are a dear! I've resumed my soda bathes, which kill them, and the olive leaf which help remove any webbing and eggs still on the body along with dead skin. For the first time, I tried olive oil on the body, head, and in the ears. I read a woman who got rid of them in four months doing it. Not only is it working, but it seems to be pulling mold or fungus from my viens. I don't have vericos viens, but when that stuff surfaces in the vessels, I have dark ones on my ankle. A jump in my soda bath always pulls it out. I thought I'd do the coconut oil in the day and the olive oil at night. I've been through this so many times, I know I can beat it. I am doing so much better but feel impatient to finally reach the end when I am no longer threatened by whichever bug is available at the time. Thus is the walk we all have to make: two steps forward and one step back. Love and light, From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:56 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Hi Bugs are bugs , kill thenthey will die , they have been popping around here at my house too , I powder them & take an Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent bath 1 cup for 30 mins . Then as Shan sayshttp://www.shanspirations.org/?p=112HomeAbout MeOur StoryShanspirationsBlessed to Be a Homekeeper: My Everyday Education, My Everyday Delights.Help! I m Being Bit By Something I Can t See! What do I do?After nearly three months of dealing with some sort of invisible biting bug I d like to take a moment to detail what we would do if we knew at the start what we know now. If you find this post and you have just started experiencing this problem, this is a best practices snapshot of our current knowledge and experience.This is a guideline for getting rid of the bites . I suspect that this guide could be shortened and that other very effective products could be mentioned, but I don t know about them and can t shorten it with my current knowledge. I wish and I could have found a step-by-step guide, even if flawed, three months ago when we first got this problem—so I offer this one to help anyone it can.Step 1 - Place Internet Orders for Long Term ReliefIt will take you about a week to receive all of the products you need to fight the bugs, so your first step should be to order the products. We have tried many options recommended by others and ones we thought of on our own. These are the products that have produced the best results, most of which are not commonly available and need to be ordered. I have broken these products down into two categories - products to fix the problem in your house / car / workplace, and products to help the problem on your skin.Products to Clean Your Environment - You should order ALL of these products, they are all important, so don t skip any of them just because they seem unfamiliar right now. Feel free to shop around to get the best price.Diatomaceous Earth - DE is the fossilized remains of single cell diatoms. Diatoms look like a knife blade under the microscope, and they act like crushed glass to insects causing rapid dehydration. There are two kinds, amorphous (food grade) and crystalline. The crystalline type is made by subjecting the DE to heat, which changes the structure of the amorphous silica into crystalline silica. Crystalline DE is useful for filtering applications (pools, labs, etc) however it can cause silicosis if inhaled, and is ineffective against insects. You will want the amorphous silica food grade DE, which you will almost certainly need to order.Prices for food-grade DE vary dramatically. If you buy it in gel-caps as a supplement it will cost you $200/lb, however if you buy it in bulk you can get it for less then $1/lb. We bought a 50 lb bag for under $50 from Wolf Creek Ranch, however you can get smaller quantities for a reasonable price from Yardiac GardenCenter.You will need about 1 lb to dust a 1500 sq ft house and 2-3 lbs for personal use (in shoes, on your bed, etc). This will get you about 1-2 weeks of treatment. We have used about 15 lbs since we got the stuff. We found out about this product from an out-of-town exterminator friend.Pyrethrum Powder - If you read much about this problem you will hear repeatedly that pyrethroids are ineffective against these mites. This is partially true in that a pyrethroid alone will almost certainly not work, however we had good success using it in combination with DE. I think that these insects quickly become immune to pyrethroids, so you will want to use the powder the right way so that you get rid of them the first time.I tried a synthetic pyrethroid (cypermethrin) in our cars (with a fogger) and it made a big difference the first time (not a total fix, but it helped a lot), however within a week they were back stronger then ever and additional uses of the fogger didn t seem to do anything at all.The option I would use if I did it over again would be to purchase pyrethrum powder (shop around, this is just an example). What we did use was a dog flea powder (0.5% permethrin) that we bought locally for a very expensive price ($5 / 4 oz).Mix the (cont) .... or , my favorite the farmers tips 1 tbls Borax disolved in 3 oz of hot water & added to 12 oz any hand creme , (healthy type is best like cheap 365 brand from whole foods )Farmes tips repasted .... Bye bye bug : Mites and farmer trickslinkbird mites/message/10634I don't know where you people are from, whether it be city, or too far north to know this, but "mites" are nothing new, and there is nothing "foreign about them.I was raised, and still live in Louisiana, which is called, "semi-tropical. " I was raised on a farm/ranch. There are so many different types of mites, that bite, that I will not begin to try to list many; I will give a few examples. Warm blooded animals get lice; plants get lice; they are not the same type of lice. the "lice" that infest your turnip green patch, will not bite you because it suddenly "got warmer" in the US. The mites and lice that infest your chicken house, will not be satisfied with sucking on turnip greens; but they will crawl all over a human and give you the "itch" for many days after you have gotten rid of the mites. There are "redbugs," picked up from walking through grass, brush, or sometimes dirt. They will burrow under your skin and make you want totake a wire brush and shed your won hide off. There are seed ticks that will cover you from brushing against the wrong tree limb, or infest your living roomwhen you buy that "real" tree at Christmas. The "Mange" in dogs, or as we humans dislike having to call it, "Scabies," that will infest you and all your pets. There are hog lice, chiken mites, Sarcopic mange, ring worm, ( & scores of other funguses from cattle and horses and dogs), that humans can get. There is the "creeping crud," a fungus, that sometimes does not show to the naked eye for months, but will make you claw until you bleed, usually starting at the ankles and working up; it lives in the soil. While we back woods, country people may call all these vermin and varmints funny names, and we may seem stupid to some, we know these critters you are talking about; they were here in the US long before you went overseas. It is just as possible that you caught it from your Georgia tent mate when he returned from leave, as it is that you caught it in Iraq, or some other "hot" place.We have put a couple of cap fulls of pine oil or bleach in our bath water for years; we have cleaned our houses with pine oil for hundreds of years. We have dabbed pine oil, turpintine, and sometimes if desperate enough, coal oil, on redbugs, (and various other critters that attached themselves to us), to kill them for hundreds of years. We have coated ourselves in various kinds of fats, mud, and paste to keep them off, and to kill them when they decided to live on us anyway. We have bathed in baking soda, salt and epsoms salt to keep from itching; smeared paste from mustard, baking soda and tobacco to help. We have taken the "skin" from egg shells and pit on bad bites, to draw the "itch" out. We have chewed on the sulphur ends of hard matches, and made a paste out of "flowers of sulfur;" which bugs hate the smell of, and it keeps the bites from getting infected. One of the bad things about itchy bites, it all that scratching and hot, blooding flesh, attracts even more critters.As for borax; you can buy "20 Mule Team"borax powder; it's been around longer than any of us. We wash with it, neutralize orors with it, remove stains with it, etc. Most of all, down here, we have been rubbing it on our meat in our smoke houses for ages; flies won't even light on it. we just wash it off when we take it out to eat. I heard in the eighties, that they were "blowing" recycled, chipped up, news papers into the walls of old historical homes to insulate them. Guess what they were soaking the news paper in prior to drying and chopping it up? That's right...Borax. Not only does it kill bugs, repel bugs, repel rodents and prevent them from chewing and nesting in the paper insulation, but it makes the paper fire retardent. You can make your on roach and ant bait with it by mixing it with flour and sugar, or just corn syrup and Borax. You can use it like carpet fresh, and you can wash your walls and floors and counters with it; use it as a paste for scrubbing; just don't rinse it too well, and you will see a lessening of itchy critters. And for people that want their clothes clean, but do not like fragrance fumes, etc., it's the best for your laundry.If the varmints are eating your ankles up, mix some borax with your lotion or vaseline; it will repel them and has antibiotic propertiesSummary : Borax$3.99Mustard 2.00skin of egg $1.99 haven't tried that one yet coaltar shampoo 5.99pinesol $4.00bleach .69 sulphur $12.00 www.Americarx.combaking soda $1.00tobacco $4.00 fats .01 off a steak mud $.00 and make s pastePretty cheap ! And they work God bless you , Billps menthol will make any bug fle for it dear life , right thru the powders & kill it . It airs out in 15 mins & smells awesome after ) I lever the house for 1 hr while doing it , it make the HIDING MEAN ONES COME OUT & run thru the borax , DE or Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent , thus dead bugs ...On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 9:29 AM EST Benton wrote:>This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes.>Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.>Love and light,>>>Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> >Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network>May 17, 2010 "Contribute content likethis. Start Here." >• More: >• Septicemia >• Algae >• >• tweet0>• Print>Flag >AdChoices>>>> >If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. >Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. >The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spreadthroughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. >There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. >Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 HI, !I´m glad to hear that you´re better! The doctors have seen it and can´t tell what it is. She has had varicella zoster (the child desease) and the bumps are only a few and pops up at different places and go away again within a week. Still think it could be shingles? Take care! Cecilia From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:35 PMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Thanks Cecilia. I haven't been bothered since I covered myself in olive oil. I seemed to think they were hatching out of my skin. The olive oil seemed to pull them and lots of sand out. I'll know in time if all is well again. I've been wondering about what you said. You said one child had bumps with clear fluid filled blisters in the middle. That sounds like Shingles. Have the doctors seen this? Love and light, From: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:10 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Hi, ! I am so sorry to hear that you are attacked again by another bug. When will it all end. I keep my fingers crossed for you. Cecilia From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 11:41 PMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Thanks Bill:) You are a dear! I've resumed my soda bathes, which kill them, and the olive leaf which help remove any webbing and eggs still on the body along with dead skin. For the first time, I tried olive oil on the body, head, and in the ears. I read a woman who got rid of them in four months doing it. Not only is it working, but it seems to be pulling mold or fungus from my viens. I don't have vericos viens, but when that stuff surfaces in the vessels, I have dark ones on my ankle. A jump in my soda bath always pulls it out. I thought I'd do the coconut oil in the day and the olive oil at night. I've been through this so many times, I know I can beat it. I am doing so much better but feel impatient to finally reach the end when I am no longer threatened by whichever bug is available at the time. Thus is the walk we all have to make: two steps forward and one step back. Love and light, From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:56 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Hi Bugs are bugs , kill thenthey will die , they have been popping around here at my house too , I powder them & take an Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent bath 1 cup for 30 mins . Then as Shan sayshttp://www.shanspirations.org/?p=112HomeAbout MeOur StoryShanspirationsBlessed to Be a Homekeeper: My Everyday Education, My Everyday Delights.Help! I m Being Bit By Something I Can t See! What do I do?After nearly three months of dealing with some sort of invisible biting bug I d like to take a moment to detail what we would do if we knew at the start what we know now. If you find this post and you have just started experiencing this problem, this is a best practices snapshot of our current knowledge and experience.This is a guideline for getting rid of the bites . I suspect that this guide could be shortened and that other very effective products could be mentioned, but I don t know about them and can t shorten it with my current knowledge. I wish and I could have found a step-by-step guide, even if flawed, three months ago when we first got this problem—so I offer this one to help anyone it can.Step 1 - Place Internet Orders for Long Term ReliefIt will take you about a week to receive all of the products you need to fight the bugs, so your first step should be to order the products. We have tried many options recommended by others and ones we thought of on our own. These are the products that have produced the best results, most of which are not commonly available and need to be ordered. I have broken these products down into two categories - products to fix the problem in your house / car / workplace, and products to help the problem on your skin.Products to Clean Your Environment - You should order ALL of these products, they are all important, so don t skip any of them just because they seem unfamiliar right now. Feel free to shop around to get the best price.Diatomaceous Earth - DE is the fossilized remains of single cell diatoms. Diatoms look like a knife blade under the microscope, and they act like crushed glass to insects causing rapid dehydration. There are two kinds, amorphous (food grade) and crystalline. The crystalline type is made by subjecting the DE to heat, which changes the structure of the amorphous silica into crystalline silica. Crystalline DE is useful for filtering applications (pools, labs, etc) however it can cause silicosis if inhaled, and is ineffective against insects. You will want the amorphous silica food grade DE, which you will almost certainly need to order.Prices for food-grade DE vary dramatically. If you buy it in gel-caps as a supplement it will cost you $200/lb, however if you buy it in bulk you can get it for less then $1/lb. We bought a 50 lb bag for under $50 from Wolf Creek Ranch, however you can get smaller quantities for a reasonable price from Yardiac GardenCenter.You will need about 1 lb to dust a 1500 sq ft house and 2-3 lbs for personal use (in shoes, on your bed, etc). This will get you about 1-2 weeks of treatment. We have used about 15 lbs since we got the stuff. We found out about this product from an out-of-town exterminator friend.Pyrethrum Powder - If you read much about this problem you will hear repeatedly that pyrethroids are ineffective against these mites. This is partially true in that a pyrethroid alone will almost certainly not work, however we had good success using it in combination with DE. I think that these insects quickly become immune to pyrethroids, so you will want to use the powder the right way so that you get rid of them the first time.I tried a synthetic pyrethroid (cypermethrin) in our cars (with a fogger) and it made a big difference the first time (not a total fix, but it helped a lot), however within a week they were back stronger then ever and additional uses of the fogger didn t seem to do anything at all.The option I would use if I did it over again would be to purchase pyrethrum powder (shop around, this is just an example). What we did use was a dog flea powder (0.5% permethrin) that we bought locally for a very expensive price ($5 / 4 oz).Mix the (cont) .... or , my favorite the farmers tips 1 tbls Borax disolved in 3 oz of hot water & added to 12 oz any hand creme , (healthy type is best like cheap 365 brand from whole foods )Farmes tips repasted .... Bye bye bug : Mites and farmer trickslinkbird mites/message/10634I don't know where you people are from, whether it be city, or too far north to know this, but "mites" are nothing new, and there is nothing "foreign about them.I was raised, and still live in Louisiana, which is called, "semi-tropical. " I was raised on a farm/ranch. There are so many different types of mites, that bite, that I will not begin to try to list many; I will give a few examples. Warm blooded animals get lice; plants get lice; they are not the same type of lice. the "lice" that infest your turnip green patch, will not bite you because it suddenly "got warmer" in the US. The mites and lice that infest your chicken house, will not be satisfied with sucking on turnip greens; but they will crawl all over a human and give you the "itch" for many days after you have gotten rid of the mites. There are "redbugs," picked up from walking through grass, brush, or sometimes dirt. They will burrow under your skin and make you want totake a wire brush and shed your won hide off. There are seed ticks that will cover you from brushing against the wrong tree limb, or infest your living roomwhen you buy that "real" tree at Christmas. The "Mange" in dogs, or as we humans dislike having to call it, "Scabies," that will infest you and all your pets. There are hog lice, chiken mites, Sarcopic mange, ring worm, ( & scores of other funguses from cattle and horses and dogs), that humans can get. There is the "creeping crud," a fungus, that sometimes does not show to the naked eye for months, but will make you claw until you bleed, usually starting at the ankles and working up; it lives in the soil. While we back woods, country people may call all these vermin and varmints funny names, and we may seem stupid to some, we know these critters you are talking about; they were here in the US long before you went overseas. It is just as possible that you caught it from your Georgia tent mate when he returned from leave, as it is that you caught it in Iraq, or some other "hot" place.We have put a couple of cap fulls of pine oil or bleach in our bath water for years; we have cleaned our houses with pine oil for hundreds of years. We have dabbed pine oil, turpintine, and sometimes if desperate enough, coal oil, on redbugs, (and various other critters that attached themselves to us), to kill them for hundreds of years. We have coated ourselves in various kinds of fats, mud, and paste to keep them off, and to kill them when they decided to live on us anyway. We have bathed in baking soda, salt and epsoms salt to keep from itching; smeared paste from mustard, baking soda and tobacco to help. We have taken the "skin" from egg shells and pit on bad bites, to draw the "itch" out. We have chewed on the sulphur ends of hard matches, and made a paste out of "flowers of sulfur;" which bugs hate the smell of, and it keeps the bites from getting infected. One of the bad things about itchy bites, it all that scratching and hot, blooding flesh, attracts even more critters.As for borax; you can buy "20 Mule Team"borax powder; it's been around longer than any of us. We wash with it, neutralize orors with it, remove stains with it, etc. Most of all, down here, we have been rubbing it on our meat in our smoke houses for ages; flies won't even light on it. we just wash it off when we take it out to eat. I heard in the eighties, that they were "blowing" recycled, chipped up, news papers into the walls of old historical homes to insulate them. Guess what they were soaking the news paper in prior to drying and chopping it up? That's right...Borax. Not only does it kill bugs, repel bugs, repel rodents and prevent them from chewing and nesting in the paper insulation, but it makes the paper fire retardent. You can make your on roach and ant bait with it by mixing it with flour and sugar, or just corn syrup and Borax. You can use it like carpet fresh, and you can wash your walls and floors and counters with it; use it as a paste for scrubbing; just don't rinse it too well, and you will see a lessening of itchy critters. And for people that want their clothes clean, but do not like fragrance fumes, etc., it's the best for your laundry.If the varmints are eating your ankles up, mix some borax with your lotion or vaseline; it will repel them and has antibiotic propertiesSummary : Borax$3.99Mustard 2.00skin of egg $1.99 haven't tried that one yet coaltar shampoo 5.99pinesol $4.00bleach .69 sulphur $12.00 www.Americarx.combaking soda $1.00tobacco $4.00 fats .01 off a steak mud $.00 and make s pastePretty cheap ! And they work God bless you , Billps menthol will make any bug fle for it dear life , right thru the powders & kill it . It airs out in 15 mins & smells awesome after ) I lever the house for 1 hr while doing it , it make the HIDING MEAN ONES COME OUT & run thru the borax , DE or Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent , thus dead bugs ...On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 9:29 AM EST Benton wrote:>This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes.>Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.>Love and light,>>>Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> >Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network>May 17, 2010 "Contribute content likethis. Start Here." >• More: >• Septicemia >• Algae >• >• tweet0>• Print>Flag >AdChoices>>>> >If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. >Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. >The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spreadthroughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. >There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. >Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Thanks for asking; as Aggi & said, my daughter is over & I seem to have a lot of things that need my attention & cannot, currently, keep track of all the emails. , I really hope you are soon rid of your current mite attack. What a drag when things were going so well. Thanks for asking after my mother. She feels she is doing well & does not get many bites these days. She is also aware that the days are drawing in & the weather is getting colder so the mite activity will be declining. I am, & shall remain as supportive as I can. I know what Id do were it me, but it is, sometimes, a bit difficult to get her to try some of the things people here suggest that I think would be well worth trying. She seems to be completely in clean & spray mode. I keep trying to get her to get medicine to treat fungal infections internally; she agrees with me & then doesn't go to the doctor which would be the first place to start (as her doctor is sympathetic). I also sent her some ayurvedic medicine so we'll see how that goes. All the best, On 13 November 2011 17:52, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote: I don't know . But the more information we collect, the better armed we are. So far, it's the only explanation I can think of. Have we heard about Krye's mother lately? He's been off the air for awhile. Love and light, From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...> bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:14 PM Subject: Re: Re: Mites are bothering me again , This is very good information. I had never heard of this before... I wonder if it is man-made? It almost sounds like that could cause Morgellons. Maybe some of the symptoms do not sound like Morgellons but the oozing sores do sound like it. Or am I just reading into this? Also concerns me that cows might be infected with it. From: " healinghope " <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 8:57:31 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Very interesting. I have concerns about algae and fungus. Using algae, man made for fuel is insane yet they continue. Grow hemp for bio-fuel makes much better sense. >> This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes. > Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.> Love and light,> > > Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> > Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network > May 17, 2010 " Contribute content like this. Start Here. " > • More: > • Septicemia > • Algae > • > • tweet0> • Print> Flag > AdChoices> > > > > If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. > Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. > The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spread throughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. > There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. > Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality. >------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Thanks Krys for the update. I bet you are having a wonderful time with your daughter. Good to hear Mum is doing better at least. Isn't it hard to convince family members of anything? And here you are working with birdmites yourself and research!From: "Krys Brennand" <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 1:45:57 PMSubject: Re: Re: Mites are bothering me again Thanks for asking; as Aggi & said, my daughter is over & I seem to have a lot of things that need my attention & cannot, currently, keep track of all the emails. , I really hope you are soon rid of your current mite attack. What a drag when things were going so well. Thanks for asking after my mother. She feels she is doing well & does not get many bites these days. She is also aware that the days are drawing in & the weather is getting colder so the mite activity will be declining. I am, & shall remain as supportive as I can. I know what Id do were it me, but it is, sometimes, a bit difficult to get her to try some of the things people here suggest that I think would be well worth trying. She seems to be completely in clean & spray mode. I keep trying to get her to get medicine to treat fungal infections internally; she agrees with me & then doesn't go to the doctor which would be the first place to start (as her doctor is sympathetic). I also sent her some ayurvedic medicine so we'll see how that goes. All the best, On 13 November 2011 17:52, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote: I don't know . But the more information we collect, the better armed we are. So far, it's the only explanation I can think of. Have we heard about Krye's mother lately? He's been off the air for awhile. Love and light, From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...> bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:14 PM Subject: Re: Re: Mites are bothering me again , This is very good information. I had never heard of this before... I wonder if it is man-made? It almost sounds like that could cause Morgellons. Maybe some of the symptoms do not sound like Morgellons but the oozing sores do sound like it. Or am I just reading into this? Also concerns me that cows might be infected with it. From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 8:57:31 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Very interesting. I have concerns about algae and fungus. Using algae, man made for fuel is insane yet they continue. Grow hemp for bio-fuel makes much better sense. >> This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes. > Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.> Love and light,> > > Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> > Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network > May 17, 2010 "Contribute content like this. Start Here." > • More: > • Septicemia > • Algae > • > • tweet0> • Print> Flag > AdChoices> > > > > If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. > Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. > The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spread throughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. > There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. > Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality. >------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Hi Krys!I am glad to hear your mum seems to be much better. have a nice time with your daughter! Cecilia From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:45 PMSubject: Re: Re: Mites are bothering me again Thanks for asking; as Aggi & said, my daughter is over & I seem to have a lot of things that need my attention & cannot, currently, keep track of all the emails. , I really hope you are soon rid of your current mite attack. What a drag when things were going so well. Thanks for asking after my mother. She feels she is doing well & does not get many bites these days. She is also aware that the days are drawing in & the weather is getting colder so the mite activity will be declining. I am, & shall remain as supportive as I can. I know what Id do were it me, but it is, sometimes, a bit difficult to get her to try some of the things people here suggest that I think would be well worth trying. She seems to be completely in clean & spray mode. I keep trying to get her to get medicine to treat fungal infections internally; she agrees with me & then doesn't go to the doctor which would be the first place to start (as her doctor is sympathetic). I also sent her some ayurvedic medicine so we'll see how that goes. All the best, On 13 November 2011 17:52, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote: I don't know . But the more information we collect, the better armed we are. So far, it's the only explanation I can think of. Have we heard about Krye's mother lately? He's been off the air for awhile. Love and light, From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:14 PMSubject: Re: Re: Mites are bothering me again , This is very good information. I had never heard of this before... I wonder if it is man-made? It almost sounds like that could cause Morgellons. Maybe some of the symptoms do not sound like Morgellons but the oozing sores do sound like it. Or am I just reading into this? Also concerns me that cows might be infected with it. From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 8:57:31 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Very interesting. I have concerns about algae and fungus. Using algae, man made for fuel is insane yet they continue. Grow hemp for bio-fuel makes much better sense.>> This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes.> Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.> Love and light,> > > Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> > Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network> May 17, 2010 "Contribute content like this. Start Here." > • More: > • Septicemia > • Algae > • > • tweet0> • Print> Flag > AdChoices> > > > > If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. > Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. > The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spread throughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. > There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. > Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality.>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 -The dark vein stuff surfacing- I had that, a lot. It's bartonella, it will get temporarily worse when you start Bactrim. How long have you been on it now?AandrayaOn Nov 13, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote: Thanks Bill:) You are a dear! I've resumed my soda bathes, which kill them, and the olive leaf which help remove any webbing and eggs still on the body along with dead skin. For the first time, I tried olive oil on the body, head, and in the ears. I read a woman who got rid of them in four months doing it. Not only is it working, but it seems to be pulling mold or fungus from my viens. I don't have vericos viens, but when that stuff surfaces in the vessels, I have dark ones on my ankle. A jump in my soda bath always pulls it out. I thought I'd do the coconut oil in the day and the olive oil at night. I've been through this so many times, I know I can beat it. I am doing so much better but feel impatient to finally reach the end when I am no longer threatened by whichever bug is available at the time. Thus is the walk we all have to make: two steps forward and one step back. Love and light, From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:56 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Hi Bugs are bugs , kill thenthey will die , they have been popping around here at my house too , I powder them & take an Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent bath 1 cup for 30 mins . Then as Shan sayshttp://www.shanspirations.org/?p=112HomeAbout MeOur StoryShanspirationsBlessed to Be a Homekeeper: My Everyday Education, My Everyday Delights.Help! I m Being Bit By Something I Can t See! What do I do?After nearly three months of dealing with some sort of invisible biting bug I d like to take a moment to detail what we would do if we knew at the start what we know now. If you find this post and you have just started experiencing this problem, this is a best practices snapshot of our current knowledge and experience.This is a guideline for getting rid of the bites . I suspect that this guide could be shortened and that other very effective products could be mentioned, but I don t know about them and can t shorten it with my current knowledge. I wish and I could have found a step-by-step guide, even if flawed, three months ago when we first got this problem—so I offer this one to help anyone it can.Step 1 - Place Internet Orders for Long Term ReliefIt will take you about a week to receive all of the products you need to fight the bugs, so your first step should be to order the products. We have tried many options recommended by others and ones we thought of on our own. These are the products that have produced the best results, most of which are not commonly available and need to be ordered. I have broken these products down into two categories - products to fix the problem in your house / car / workplace, and products to help the problem on your skin.Products to Clean Your Environment - You should order ALL of these products, they are all important, so don t skip any of them just because they seem unfamiliar right now. Feel free to shop around to get the best price.Diatomaceous Earth - DE is the fossilized remains of single cell diatoms. Diatoms look like a knife blade under the microscope, and they act like crushed glass to insects causing rapid dehydration. There are two kinds, amorphous (food grade) and crystalline. The crystalline type is made by subjecting the DE to heat, which changes the structure of the amorphous silica into crystalline silica. Crystalline DE is useful for filtering applications (pools, labs, etc) however it can cause silicosis if inhaled, and is ineffective against insects. You will want the amorphous silica food grade DE, which you will almost certainly need to order.Prices for food-grade DE vary dramatically. If you buy it in gel-caps as a supplement it will cost you $200/lb, however if you buy it in bulk you can get it for less then $1/lb. We bought a 50 lb bag for under $50 from Wolf Creek Ranch, however you can get smaller quantities for a reasonable price from Yardiac GardenCenter.You will need about 1 lb to dust a 1500 sq ft house and 2-3 lbs for personal use (in shoes, on your bed, etc). This will get you about 1-2 weeks of treatment. We have used about 15 lbs since we got the stuff. We found out about this product from an out-of-town exterminator friend.Pyrethrum Powder - If you read much about this problem you will hear repeatedly that pyrethroids are ineffective against these mites. This is partially true in that a pyrethroid alone will almost certainly not work, however we had good success using it in combination with DE. I think that these insects quickly become immune to pyrethroids, so you will want to use the powder the right way so that you get rid of them the first time.I tried a synthetic pyrethroid (cypermethrin) in our cars (with a fogger) and it made a big difference the first time (not a total fix, but it helped a lot), however within a week they were back stronger then ever and additional uses of the fogger didn t seem to do anything at all.The option I would use if I did it over again would be to purchase pyrethrum powder (shop around, this is just an example). What we did use was a dog flea powder (0.5% permethrin) that we bought locally for a very expensive price ($5 / 4 oz).Mix the (cont) .... or , my favorite the farmers tips 1 tbls Borax disolved in 3 oz of hot water & added to 12 oz any hand creme , (healthy type is best like cheap 365 brand from whole foods )Farmes tips repasted .... Bye bye bug : Mites and farmer trickslinkbird mites/message/10634I don't know where you people are from, whether it be city, or too far north to know this, but "mites" are nothing new, and there is nothing "foreign about them.I was raised, and still live in Louisiana, which is called, "semi-tropical. " I was raised on a farm/ranch. There are so many different types of mites, that bite, that I will not begin to try to list many; I will give a few examples. Warm blooded animals get lice; plants get lice; they are not the same type of lice. the "lice" that infest your turnip green patch, will not bite you because it suddenly "got warmer" in the US. The mites and lice that infest your chicken house, will not be satisfied with sucking on turnip greens; but they will crawl all over a human and give you the "itch" for many days after you have gotten rid of the mites. There are "redbugs," picked up from walking through grass, brush, or sometimes dirt. They will burrow under your skin and make you want totake a wire brush and shed your won hide off. There are seed ticks that will cover you from brushing against the wrong tree limb, or infest your living roomwhen you buy that "real" tree at Christmas. The "Mange" in dogs, or as we humans dislike having to call it, "Scabies," that will infest you and all your pets. There are hog lice, chiken mites, Sarcopic mange, ring worm, ( & scores of other funguses from cattle and horses and dogs), that humans can get. There is the "creeping crud," a fungus, that sometimes does not show to the naked eye for months, but will make you claw until you bleed, usually starting at the ankles and working up; it lives in the soil. While we back woods, country people may call all these vermin and varmints funny names, and we may seem stupid to some, we know these critters you are talking about; they were here in the US long before you went overseas. It is just as possible that you caught it from your Georgia tent mate when he returned from leave, as it is that you caught it in Iraq, or some other "hot" place.We have put a couple of cap fulls of pine oil or bleach in our bath water for years; we have cleaned our houses with pine oil for hundreds of years. We have dabbed pine oil, turpintine, and sometimes if desperate enough, coal oil, on redbugs, (and various other critters that attached themselves to us), to kill them for hundreds of years. We have coated ourselves in various kinds of fats, mud, and paste to keep them off, and to kill them when they decided to live on us anyway. We have bathed in baking soda, salt and epsoms salt to keep from itching; smeared paste from mustard, baking soda and tobacco to help. We have taken the "skin" from egg shells and pit on bad bites, to draw the "itch" out. We have chewed on the sulphur ends of hard matches, and made a paste out of "flowers of sulfur;" which bugs hate the smell of, and it keeps the bites from getting infected. One of the bad things about itchy bites, it all that scratching and hot, blooding flesh, attracts even more critters.As for borax; you can buy "20 Mule Team"borax powder; it's been around longer than any of us. We wash with it, neutralize orors with it, remove stains with it, etc. Most of all, down here, we have been rubbing it on our meat in our smoke houses for ages; flies won't even light on it. we just wash it off when we take it out to eat. I heard in the eighties, that they were "blowing" recycled, chipped up, news papers into the walls of old historical homes to insulate them. Guess what they were soaking the news paper in prior to drying and chopping it up? That's right...Borax. Not only does it kill bugs, repel bugs, repel rodents and prevent them from chewing and nesting in the paper insulation, but it makes the paper fire retardent. You can make your on roach and ant bait with it by mixing it with flour and sugar, or just corn syrup and Borax. You can use it like carpet fresh, and you can wash your walls and floors and counters with it; use it as a paste for scrubbing; just don't rinse it too well, and you will see a lessening of itchy critters. And for people that want their clothes clean, but do not like fragrance fumes, etc., it's the best for your laundry.If the varmints are eating your ankles up, mix some borax with your lotion or vaseline; it will repel them and has antibiotic propertiesSummary : Borax$3.99Mustard 2.00skin of egg $1.99 haven't tried that one yet coaltar shampoo 5.99pinesol $4.00bleach .69 sulphur $12.00 www.Americarx.combaking soda $1.00tobacco $4.00 fats .01 off a steak mud $.00 and make s pastePretty cheap ! And they work God bless you , Billps menthol will make any bug fle for it dear life , right thru the powders & kill it .. It airs out in 15 mins & smells awesome after ) I lever the house for 1 hr while doing it , it make the HIDING MEAN ONES COME OUT & run thru the borax , DE or Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent , thus dead bugs ...On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 9:29 AM EST Benton wrote:>This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes.>Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.>Love and light,>>>Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> >Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network>May 17, 2010 "Contribute content likethis. Start Here." >• More: >• Septicemia >• Algae >• >• tweet0>• Print>Flag >AdChoices>>>> >If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. >Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. >The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spreadthroughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. >There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. >Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Hi Aandraya, I think I'm coming along on it quite well. I've been on it about a month now. The black stuff from the viens kept coming out during this latest episod. Strange. I had that mite attack and my skin seemed to shed all of these bugs and then, about a week ago, it all stopped. I really think that a periodic hertzing occurs even as one gets better. I still hold that until I have no more set backs for 6 months, I can't honestly believe it's all over. But I will say I am always so much better when I come out on the other side. At one time, I could rub stuff off of my skin no matter where I touched on my body. Then I just had areas I could keep doing this in. Now, I am hard pressed to find an area that needs rubbing off. Must be a good sign. Perhaps the Bactrim is sending something out of my skin. I still can't explain the thousand of little sand particles that kept covering my feet top and bottom as this occured. I wonder if seeds of infection where being pushed out of the skin pores there. Love and light, From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 3:46 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again - The dark vein stuff surfacing- I had that, a lot. It's bartonella, it will get temporarily worse when you start Bactrim. How long have you been on it now? Aandraya On Nov 13, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote: Thanks Bill:) You are a dear! I've resumed my soda bathes, which kill them, and the olive leaf which help remove any webbing and eggs still on the body along with dead skin. For the first time, I tried olive oil on the body, head, and in the ears. I read a woman who got rid of them in four months doing it. Not only is it working, but it seems to be pulling mold or fungus from my viens. I don't have vericos viens, but when that stuff surfaces in the vessels, I have dark ones on my ankle. A jump in my soda bath always pulls it out. I thought I'd do the coconut oil in the day and the olive oil at night. I've been through this so many times, I know I can beat it. I am doing so much better but feel impatient to finally reach the end when I am no longer threatened by whichever bug is available at the time. Thus is the walk we all have to make: two steps forward and one step back. Love and light, From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:56 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Hi Bugs are bugs , kill thenthey will die , they have been popping around here at my house too , I powder them & take an Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent bath 1 cup for 30 mins . Then as Shan sayshttp://www.shanspirations.org/?p=112HomeAbout MeOur StoryShanspirationsBlessed to Be a Homekeeper: My Everyday Education, My Everyday Delights.Help! I m Being Bit By Something I Can t See! What do I do?After nearly three months of dealing with some sort of invisible biting bug I d like to take a moment to detail what we would do if we knew at the start what we know now. If you find this post and you have just started experiencing this problem, this is a best practices snapshot of our current knowledge and experience.This is a guideline for getting rid of the bites . I suspect that this guide could be shortened and that other very effective products could be mentioned, but I don t know about them and can t shorten it with my current knowledge. I wish and I could have found a step-by-step guide, even if flawed, three months ago when we first got this problem—so I offer this one to help anyone it can.Step 1 - Place Internet Orders for Long Term ReliefIt will take you about a week to receive all of the products you need to fight the bugs, so your first step should be to order the products. We have tried many options recommended by others and ones we thought of on our own. These are the products that have produced the best results, most of which are not commonly available and need to be ordered. I have broken these products down into two categories - products to fix the problem in your house / car / workplace, and products to help the problem on your skin.Products to Clean Your Environment - You should order ALL of these products, they are all important, so don t skip any of them just because they seem unfamiliar right now. Feel free to shop around to get the best price.Diatomaceous Earth - DE is the fossilized remains of single cell diatoms. Diatoms look like a knife blade under the microscope, and they act like crushed glass to insects causing rapid dehydration. There are two kinds, amorphous (food grade) and crystalline. The crystalline type is made by subjecting the DE to heat, which changes the structure of the amorphous silica into crystalline silica. Crystalline DE is useful for filtering applications (pools, labs, etc) however it can cause silicosis if inhaled, and is ineffective against insects. You will want the amorphous silica food grade DE, which you will almost certainly need to order.Prices for food-grade DE vary dramatically. If you buy it in gel-caps as a supplement it will cost you $200/lb, however if you buy it in bulk you can get it for less then $1/lb. We bought a 50 lb bag for under $50 from Wolf Creek Ranch, however you can get smaller quantities for a reasonable price from Yardiac GardenCenter.You will need about 1 lb to dust a 1500 sq ft house and 2-3 lbs for personal use (in shoes, on your bed, etc). This will get you about 1-2 weeks of treatment. We have used about 15 lbs since we got the stuff. We found out about this product from an out-of-town exterminator friend.Pyrethrum Powder - If you read much about this problem you will hear repeatedly that pyrethroids are ineffective against these mites. This is partially true in that a pyrethroid alone will almost certainly not work, however we had good success using it in combination with DE. I think that these insects quickly become immune to pyrethroids, so you will want to use the powder the right way so that you get rid of them the first time.I tried a synthetic pyrethroid (cypermethrin) in our cars (with a fogger) and it made a big difference the first time (not a total fix, but it helped a lot), however within a week they were back stronger then ever and additional uses of the fogger didn t seem to do anything at all.The option I would use if I did it over again would be to purchase pyrethrum powder (shop around, this is just an example). What we did use was a dog flea powder (0.5% permethrin) that we bought locally for a very expensive price ($5 / 4 oz).Mix the (cont) .... or , my favorite the farmers tips 1 tbls Borax disolved in 3 oz of hot water & added to 12 oz any hand creme , (healthy type is best like cheap 365 brand from whole foods )Farmes tips repasted .... Bye bye bug : Mites and farmer trickslinkbird mites/message/10634I don't know where you people are from, whether it be city, or too far north to know this, but "mites" are nothing new, and there is nothing "foreign about them.I was raised, and still live in Louisiana, which is called, "semi-tropical. " I was raised on a farm/ranch. There are so many different types of mites, that bite, that I will not begin to try to list many; I will give a few examples. Warm blooded animals get lice; plants get lice; they are not the same type of lice. the "lice" that infest your turnip green patch, will not bite you because it suddenly "got warmer" in the US. The mites and lice that infest your chicken house, will not be satisfied with sucking on turnip greens; but they will crawl all over a human and give you the "itch" for many days after you have gotten rid of the mites. There are "redbugs," picked up from walking through grass, brush, or sometimes dirt. They will burrow under your skin and make you want totake a wire brush and shed your won hide off. There are seed ticks that will cover you from brushing against the wrong tree limb, or infest your living roomwhen you buy that "real" tree at Christmas. The "Mange" in dogs, or as we humans dislike having to call it, "Scabies," that will infest you and all your pets. There are hog lice, chiken mites, Sarcopic mange, ring worm, ( & scores of other funguses from cattle and horses and dogs), that humans can get. There is the "creeping crud," a fungus, that sometimes does not show to the naked eye for months, but will make you claw until you bleed, usually starting at the ankles and working up; it lives in the soil. While we back woods, country people may call all these vermin and varmints funny names, and we may seem stupid to some, we know these critters you are talking about; they were here in the US long before you went overseas. It is just as possible that you caught it from your Georgia tent mate when he returned from leave, as it is that you caught it in Iraq, or some other "hot" place.We have put a couple of cap fulls of pine oil or bleach in our bath water for years; we have cleaned our houses with pine oil for hundreds of years. We have dabbed pine oil, turpintine, and sometimes if desperate enough, coal oil, on redbugs, (and various other critters that attached themselves to us), to kill them for hundreds of years. We have coated ourselves in various kinds of fats, mud, and paste to keep them off, and to kill them when they decided to live on us anyway. We have bathed in baking soda, salt and epsoms salt to keep from itching; smeared paste from mustard, baking soda and tobacco to help. We have taken the "skin" from egg shells and pit on bad bites, to draw the "itch" out. We have chewed on the sulphur ends of hard matches, and made a paste out of "flowers of sulfur;" which bugs hate the smell of, and it keeps the bites from getting infected. One of the bad things about itchy bites, it all that scratching and hot, blooding flesh, attracts even more critters.As for borax; you can buy "20 Mule Team"borax powder; it's been around longer than any of us. We wash with it, neutralize orors with it, remove stains with it, etc. Most of all, down here, we have been rubbing it on our meat in our smoke houses for ages; flies won't even light on it. we just wash it off when we take it out to eat. I heard in the eighties, that they were "blowing" recycled, chipped up, news papers into the walls of old historical homes to insulate them. Guess what they were soaking the news paper in prior to drying and chopping it up? That's right...Borax. Not only does it kill bugs, repel bugs, repel rodents and prevent them from chewing and nesting in the paper insulation, but it makes the paper fire retardent. You can make your on roach and ant bait with it by mixing it with flour and sugar, or just corn syrup and Borax. You can use it like carpet fresh, and you can wash your walls and floors and counters with it; use it as a paste for scrubbing; just don't rinse it too well, and you will see a lessening of itchy critters. And for people that want their clothes clean, but do not like fragrance fumes, etc., it's the best for your laundry.If the varmints are eating your ankles up, mix some borax with your lotion or vaseline; it will repel them and has antibiotic propertiesSummary : Borax$3.99Mustard 2.00skin of egg $1.99 haven't tried that one yet coaltar shampoo 5.99pinesol $4.00bleach .69 sulphur $12.00 www.Americarx.combaking soda $1.00tobacco $4.00 fats .01 off a steak mud $.00 and make s pastePretty cheap ! And they work God bless you , Billps menthol will make any bug fle for it dear life , right thru the powders & kill it . It airs out in 15 mins & smells awesome after ) I lever the house for 1 hr while doing it , it make the HIDING MEAN ONES COME OUT & run thru the borax , DE or Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent , thus dead bugs ...On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 9:29 AM EST Benton wrote:>This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes.>Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.>Love and light,>>>Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> >Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network>May 17, 2010 "Contribute content likethis. Start Here." >• More: >• Septicemia >• Algae >• >• tweet0>• Print>Flag >AdChoices>>>> >If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. >Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. >The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spreadthroughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. >There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. >Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 The sandy grit is toxins, the Bactrim must be hitting the bartonella. The dark vein stuff is typical of Bart skin symptoms. I had that a lot for months and Bactrim will definitely stir things up. Aandraya On Nov 18, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote: Hi Aandraya, I think I'm coming along on it quite well. I've been on it about a month now. The black stuff from the viens kept coming out during this latest episod. Strange. I had that mite attack and my skin seemed to shed all of these bugs and then, about a week ago, it all stopped. I really think that a periodic hertzing occurs even as one gets better. I still hold that until I have no more set backs for 6 months, I can't honestly believe it's all over. But I will say I am always so much better when I come out on the other side. At one time, I could rub stuff off of my skin no matter where I touched on my body. Then I just had areas I could keep doing this in. Now, I am hard pressed to find an area that needs rubbing off. Must be a good sign. Perhaps the Bactrim is sending something out of my skin. I still can't explain the thousand of little sand particles that kept covering my feet top and bottom as this occured. I wonder if seeds of infection where being pushed out of the skin pores there. Love and light, From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 3:46 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again - The dark vein stuff surfacing- I had that, a lot. It's bartonella, it will get temporarily worse when you start Bactrim. How long have you been on it now? Aandraya On Nov 13, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote: Thanks Bill:) You are a dear! I've resumed my soda bathes, which kill them, and the olive leaf which help remove any webbing and eggs still on the body along with dead skin. For the first time, I tried olive oil on the body, head, and in the ears. I read a woman who got rid of them in four months doing it. Not only is it working, but it seems to be pulling mold or fungus from my viens. I don't have vericos viens, but when that stuff surfaces in the vessels, I have dark ones on my ankle. A jump in my soda bath always pulls it out. I thought I'd do the coconut oil in the day and the olive oil at night. I've been through this so many times, I know I can beat it. I am doing so much better but feel impatient to finally reach the end when I am no longer threatened by whichever bug is available at the time. Thus is the walk we all have to make: two steps forward and one step back. Love and light, From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:56 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Hi Bugs are bugs , kill thenthey will die , they have been popping around here at my house too , I powder them & take an Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent bath 1 cup for 30 mins . Then as Shan sayshttp://www.shanspirations.org/?p=112HomeAbout MeOur StoryShanspirationsBlessed to Be a Homekeeper: My Everyday Education, My Everyday Delights.Help! I m Being Bit By Something I Can t See! What do I do?After nearly three months of dealing with some sort of invisible biting bug I d like to take a moment to detail what we would do if we knew at the start what we know now. If you find this post and you have just started experiencing this problem, this is a best practices snapshot of our current knowledge and experience.This is a guideline for getting rid of the bites . I suspect that this guide could be shortened and that other very effective products could be mentioned, but I don t know about them and can t shorten it with my current knowledge. I wish and I could have found a step-by-step guide, even if flawed, three months ago when we first got this problem—so I offer this one to help anyone it can.Step 1 - Place Internet Orders for Long Term ReliefIt will take you about a week to receive all of the products you need to fight the bugs, so your first step should be to order the products. We have tried many options recommended by others and ones we thought of on our own. These are the products that have produced the best results, most of which are not commonly available and need to be ordered. I have broken these products down into two categories - products to fix the problem in your house / car / workplace, and products to help the problem on your skin.Products to Clean Your Environment - You should order ALL of these products, they are all important, so don t skip any of them just because they seem unfamiliar right now. Feel free to shop around to get the best price.Diatomaceous Earth - DE is the fossilized remains of single cell diatoms. Diatoms look like a knife blade under the microscope, and they act like crushed glass to insects causing rapid dehydration. There are two kinds, amorphous (food grade) and crystalline. The crystalline type is made by subjecting the DE to heat, which changes the structure of the amorphous silica into crystalline silica. Crystalline DE is useful for filtering applications (pools, labs, etc) however it can cause silicosis if inhaled, and is ineffective against insects. You will want the amorphous silica food grade DE, which you will almost certainly need to order.Prices for food-grade DE vary dramatically. If you buy it in gel-caps as a supplement it will cost you $200/lb, however if you buy it in bulk you can get it for less then $1/lb. We bought a 50 lb bag for under $50 from Wolf Creek Ranch, however you can get smaller quantities for a reasonable price from Yardiac GardenCenter.You will need about 1 lb to dust a 1500 sq ft house and 2-3 lbs for personal use (in shoes, on your bed, etc). This will get you about 1-2 weeks of treatment. We have used about 15 lbs since we got the stuff. We found out about this product from an out-of-town exterminator friend.Pyrethrum Powder - If you read much about this problem you will hear repeatedly that pyrethroids are ineffective against these mites. This is partially true in that a pyrethroid alone will almost certainly not work, however we had good success using it in combination with DE. I think that these insects quickly become immune to pyrethroids, so you will want to use the powder the right way so that you get rid of them the first time.I tried a synthetic pyrethroid (cypermethrin) in our cars (with a fogger) and it made a big difference the first time (not a total fix, but it helped a lot), however within a week they were back stronger then ever and additional uses of the fogger didn t seem to do anything at all.The option I would use if I did it over again would be to purchase pyrethrum powder (shop around, this is just an example). What we did use was a dog flea powder (0.5% permethrin) that we bought locally for a very expensive price ($5 / 4 oz).Mix the (cont) .... or , my favorite the farmers tips 1 tbls Borax disolved in 3 oz of hot water & added to 12 oz any hand creme , (healthy type is best like cheap 365 brand from whole foods )Farmes tips repasted .... Bye bye bug : Mites and farmer trickslinkbird mites/message/10634I don't know where you people are from, whether it be city, or too far north to know this, but "mites" are nothing new, and there is nothing "foreign about them.I was raised, and still live in Louisiana, which is called, "semi-tropical. " I was raised on a farm/ranch. There are so many different types of mites, that bite, that I will not begin to try to list many; I will give a few examples. Warm blooded animals get lice; plants get lice; they are not the same type of lice. the "lice" that infest your turnip green patch, will not bite you because it suddenly "got warmer" in the US. The mites and lice that infest your chicken house, will not be satisfied with sucking on turnip greens; but they will crawl all over a human and give you the "itch" for many days after you have gotten rid of the mites. There are "redbugs," picked up from walking through grass, brush, or sometimes dirt. They will burrow under your skin and make you want totake a wire brush and shed your won hide off. There are seed ticks that will cover you from brushing against the wrong tree limb, or infest your living roomwhen you buy that "real" tree at Christmas. The "Mange" in dogs, or as we humans dislike having to call it, "Scabies," that will infest you and all your pets. There are hog lice, chiken mites, Sarcopic mange, ring worm, ( & scores of other funguses from cattle and horses and dogs), that humans can get. There is the "creeping crud," a fungus, that sometimes does not show to the naked eye for months, but will make you claw until you bleed, usually starting at the ankles and working up; it lives in the soil. While we back woods, country people may call all these vermin and varmints funny names, and we may seem stupid to some, we know these critters you are talking about; they were here in the US long before you went overseas. It is just as possible that you caught it from your Georgia tent mate when he returned from leave, as it is that you caught it in Iraq, or some other "hot" place.We have put a couple of cap fulls of pine oil or bleach in our bath water for years; we have cleaned our houses with pine oil for hundreds of years. We have dabbed pine oil, turpintine, and sometimes if desperate enough, coal oil, on redbugs, (and various other critters that attached themselves to us), to kill them for hundreds of years. We have coated ourselves in various kinds of fats, mud, and paste to keep them off, and to kill them when they decided to live on us anyway. We have bathed in baking soda, salt and epsoms salt to keep from itching; smeared paste from mustard, baking soda and tobacco to help. We have taken the "skin" from egg shells and pit on bad bites, to draw the "itch" out. We have chewed on the sulphur ends of hard matches, and made a paste out of "flowers of sulfur;" which bugs hate the smell of, and it keeps the bites from getting infected. One of the bad things about itchy bites, it all that scratching and hot, blooding flesh, attracts even more critters.As for borax; you can buy "20 Mule Team"borax powder; it's been around longer than any of us. We wash with it, neutralize orors with it, remove stains with it, etc. Most of all, down here, we have been rubbing it on our meat in our smoke houses for ages; flies won't even light on it. we just wash it off when we take it out to eat. I heard in the eighties, that they were "blowing" recycled, chipped up, news papers into the walls of old historical homes to insulate them. Guess what they were soaking the news paper in prior to drying and chopping it up? That's right...Borax. Not only does it kill bugs, repel bugs, repel rodents and prevent them from chewing and nesting in the paper insulation, but it makes the paper fire retardent. You can make your on roach and ant bait with it by mixing it with flour and sugar, or just corn syrup and Borax. You can use it like carpet fresh, and you can wash your walls and floors and counters with it; use it as a paste for scrubbing; just don't rinse it too well, and you will see a lessening of itchy critters. And for people that want their clothes clean, but do not like fragrance fumes, etc., it's the best for your laundry.If the varmints are eating your ankles up, mix some borax with your lotion or vaseline; it will repel them and has antibiotic propertiesSummary : Borax$3.99Mustard 2.00skin of egg $1.99 haven't tried that one yet coaltar shampoo 5.99pinesol $4.00bleach .69 sulphur $12.00 www.Americarx.combaking soda $1.00tobacco $4.00 fats .01 off a steak mud $.00 and make s pastePretty cheap ! And they work God bless you , Billps menthol will make any bug fle for it dear life , right thru the powders & kill it . It airs out in 15 mins & smells awesome after ) I lever the house for 1 hr while doing it , it make the HIDING MEAN ONES COME OUT & run thru the borax , DE or Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent , thus dead bugs ...On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 9:29 AM EST Benton wrote:>This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes.>Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.>Love and light,>>>Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> >Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network>May 17, 2010 "Contribute content likethis. Start Here." >• More: >• Septicemia >• Algae >• >• tweet0>• Print>Flag >AdChoices>>>> >If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. >Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. >The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spreadthroughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. >There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. >Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Hi Aandraya, That sounds right. I'd like to order more, as I have a few months left of it, but my cards will not let me order from freedom pharmacy anymore. My sister and daughter are having the same problems. I don't think the banks have a right to determine who we shop with. Another freedom taken away. Love and light, From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 6:25 PMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again The sandy grit is toxins, the Bactrim must be hitting the bartonella. The dark vein stuff is typical of Bart skin symptoms. I had that a lot for months and Bactrim will definitely stir things up. Aandraya On Nov 18, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote: Hi Aandraya, I think I'm coming along on it quite well. I've been on it about a month now. The black stuff from the viens kept coming out during this latest episod. Strange. I had that mite attack and my skin seemed to shed all of these bugs and then, about a week ago, it all stopped. I really think that a periodic hertzing occurs even as one gets better. I still hold that until I have no more set backs for 6 months, I can't honestly believe it's all over. But I will say I am always so much better when I come out on the other side. At one time, I could rub stuff off of my skin no matter where I touched on my body. Then I just had areas I could keep doing this in. Now, I am hard pressed to find an area that needs rubbing off. Must be a good sign. Perhaps the Bactrim is sending something out of my skin. I still can't explain the thousand of little sand particles that kept covering my feet top and bottom as this occured. I wonder if seeds of infection where being pushed out of the skin pores there. Love and light, From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 3:46 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again - The dark vein stuff surfacing- I had that, a lot. It's bartonella, it will get temporarily worse when you start Bactrim. How long have you been on it now? Aandraya On Nov 13, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote: Thanks Bill:) You are a dear! I've resumed my soda bathes, which kill them, and the olive leaf which help remove any webbing and eggs still on the body along with dead skin. For the first time, I tried olive oil on the body, head, and in the ears. I read a woman who got rid of them in four months doing it. Not only is it working, but it seems to be pulling mold or fungus from my viens. I don't have vericos viens, but when that stuff surfaces in the vessels, I have dark ones on my ankle. A jump in my soda bath always pulls it out. I thought I'd do the coconut oil in the day and the olive oil at night. I've been through this so many times, I know I can beat it. I am doing so much better but feel impatient to finally reach the end when I am no longer threatened by whichever bug is available at the time. Thus is the walk we all have to make: two steps forward and one step back. Love and light, From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:56 AMSubject: Re: Mites are bothering me again Hi Bugs are bugs , kill thenthey will die , they have been popping around here at my house too , I powder them & take an Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent bath 1 cup for 30 mins . Then as Shan sayshttp://www.shanspirations.org/?p=112HomeAbout MeOur StoryShanspirationsBlessed to Be a Homekeeper: My Everyday Education, My Everyday Delights.Help! I m Being Bit By Something I Can t See! What do I do?After nearly three months of dealing with some sort of invisible biting bug I d like to take a moment to detail what we would do if we knew at the start what we know now. If you find this post and you have just started experiencing this problem, this is a best practices snapshot of our current knowledge and experience.This is a guideline for getting rid of the bites . I suspect that this guide could be shortened and that other very effective products could be mentioned, but I don t know about them and can t shorten it with my current knowledge. I wish and I could have found a step-by-step guide, even if flawed, three months ago when we first got this problem—so I offer this one to help anyone it can.Step 1 - Place Internet Orders for Long Term ReliefIt will take you about a week to receive all of the products you need to fight the bugs, so your first step should be to order the products. We have tried many options recommended by others and ones we thought of on our own. These are the products that have produced the best results, most of which are not commonly available and need to be ordered. I have broken these products down into two categories - products to fix the problem in your house / car / workplace, and products to help the problem on your skin.Products to Clean Your Environment - You should order ALL of these products, they are all important, so don t skip any of them just because they seem unfamiliar right now. Feel free to shop around to get the best price.Diatomaceous Earth - DE is the fossilized remains of single cell diatoms. Diatoms look like a knife blade under the microscope, and they act like crushed glass to insects causing rapid dehydration. There are two kinds, amorphous (food grade) and crystalline. The crystalline type is made by subjecting the DE to heat, which changes the structure of the amorphous silica into crystalline silica. Crystalline DE is useful for filtering applications (pools, labs, etc) however it can cause silicosis if inhaled, and is ineffective against insects. You will want the amorphous silica food grade DE, which you will almost certainly need to order.Prices for food-grade DE vary dramatically. If you buy it in gel-caps as a supplement it will cost you $200/lb, however if you buy it in bulk you can get it for less then $1/lb. We bought a 50 lb bag for under $50 from Wolf Creek Ranch, however you can get smaller quantities for a reasonable price from Yardiac GardenCenter.You will need about 1 lb to dust a 1500 sq ft house and 2-3 lbs for personal use (in shoes, on your bed, etc). This will get you about 1-2 weeks of treatment. We have used about 15 lbs since we got the stuff. We found out about this product from an out-of-town exterminator friend.Pyrethrum Powder - If you read much about this problem you will hear repeatedly that pyrethroids are ineffective against these mites. This is partially true in that a pyrethroid alone will almost certainly not work, however we had good success using it in combination with DE. I think that these insects quickly become immune to pyrethroids, so you will want to use the powder the right way so that you get rid of them the first time.I tried a synthetic pyrethroid (cypermethrin) in our cars (with a fogger) and it made a big difference the first time (not a total fix, but it helped a lot), however within a week they were back stronger then ever and additional uses of the fogger didn t seem to do anything at all.The option I would use if I did it over again would be to purchase pyrethrum powder (shop around, this is just an example). What we did use was a dog flea powder (0.5% permethrin) that we bought locally for a very expensive price ($5 / 4 oz).Mix the (cont) .... or , my favorite the farmers tips 1 tbls Borax disolved in 3 oz of hot water & added to 12 oz any hand creme , (healthy type is best like cheap 365 brand from whole foods )Farmes tips repasted .... Bye bye bug : Mites and farmer trickslinkbird mites/message/10634I don't know where you people are from, whether it be city, or too far north to know this, but "mites" are nothing new, and there is nothing "foreign about them.I was raised, and still live in Louisiana, which is called, "semi-tropical. " I was raised on a farm/ranch. There are so many different types of mites, that bite, that I will not begin to try to list many; I will give a few examples. Warm blooded animals get lice; plants get lice; they are not the same type of lice. the "lice" that infest your turnip green patch, will not bite you because it suddenly "got warmer" in the US. The mites and lice that infest your chicken house, will not be satisfied with sucking on turnip greens; but they will crawl all over a human and give you the "itch" for many days after you have gotten rid of the mites. There are "redbugs," picked up from walking through grass, brush, or sometimes dirt. They will burrow under your skin and make you want totake a wire brush and shed your won hide off. There are seed ticks that will cover you from brushing against the wrong tree limb, or infest your living roomwhen you buy that "real" tree at Christmas. The "Mange" in dogs, or as we humans dislike having to call it, "Scabies," that will infest you and all your pets. There are hog lice, chiken mites, Sarcopic mange, ring worm, ( & scores of other funguses from cattle and horses and dogs), that humans can get. There is the "creeping crud," a fungus, that sometimes does not show to the naked eye for months, but will make you claw until you bleed, usually starting at the ankles and working up; it lives in the soil. While we back woods, country people may call all these vermin and varmints funny names, and we may seem stupid to some, we know these critters you are talking about; they were here in the US long before you went overseas. It is just as possible that you caught it from your Georgia tent mate when he returned from leave, as it is that you caught it in Iraq, or some other "hot" place.We have put a couple of cap fulls of pine oil or bleach in our bath water for years; we have cleaned our houses with pine oil for hundreds of years. We have dabbed pine oil, turpintine, and sometimes if desperate enough, coal oil, on redbugs, (and various other critters that attached themselves to us), to kill them for hundreds of years. We have coated ourselves in various kinds of fats, mud, and paste to keep them off, and to kill them when they decided to live on us anyway. We have bathed in baking soda, salt and epsoms salt to keep from itching; smeared paste from mustard, baking soda and tobacco to help. We have taken the "skin" from egg shells and pit on bad bites, to draw the "itch" out. We have chewed on the sulphur ends of hard matches, and made a paste out of "flowers of sulfur;" which bugs hate the smell of, and it keeps the bites from getting infected. One of the bad things about itchy bites, it all that scratching and hot, blooding flesh, attracts even more critters.As for borax; you can buy "20 Mule Team"borax powder; it's been around longer than any of us. We wash with it, neutralize orors with it, remove stains with it, etc. Most of all, down here, we have been rubbing it on our meat in our smoke houses for ages; flies won't even light on it. we just wash it off when we take it out to eat. I heard in the eighties, that they were "blowing" recycled, chipped up, news papers into the walls of old historical homes to insulate them. Guess what they were soaking the news paper in prior to drying and chopping it up? That's right...Borax. Not only does it kill bugs, repel bugs, repel rodents and prevent them from chewing and nesting in the paper insulation, but it makes the paper fire retardent. You can make your on roach and ant bait with it by mixing it with flour and sugar, or just corn syrup and Borax. You can use it like carpet fresh, and you can wash your walls and floors and counters with it; use it as a paste for scrubbing; just don't rinse it too well, and you will see a lessening of itchy critters. And for people that want their clothes clean, but do not like fragrance fumes, etc., it's the best for your laundry.If the varmints are eating your ankles up, mix some borax with your lotion or vaseline; it will repel them and has antibiotic propertiesSummary : Borax$3.99Mustard 2.00skin of egg $1.99 haven't tried that one yet coaltar shampoo 5.99pinesol $4.00bleach .69 sulphur $12.00 www.Americarx.combaking soda $1.00tobacco $4.00 fats .01 off a steak mud $.00 and make s pastePretty cheap ! And they work God bless you , Billps menthol will make any bug fle for it dear life , right thru the powders & kill it . It airs out in 15 mins & smells awesome after ) I lever the house for 1 hr while doing it , it make the HIDING MEAN ONES COME OUT & run thru the borax , DE or Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent , thus dead bugs ...On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 9:29 AM EST Benton wrote:>This time, I think they are mites. Seems different bugs at different seasons or depending on what is hertzing as one progresses. I swear I have the spider mite. I have always held that whatever mite was bothering me spun a web. Interesting that they live on leaves and suck the juices out of a plant. So why would they be attracted to humans? All I could conclude was an algae infection,so I searched. I found this article on an algae infecting humans. When you think of the manuer added to pre packaged garden soil, It makes me wonder. I had just started a deck garden before this happened. Please read the attached. They don't know how to treat it and are opting for antifungals in hopes.>Could be another piece of the puzzle for some.>Love and light,>>>Rare Toxic Algae Causing Infections in Humans and Animals> >Lara Kistenmacher, Contributor Network>May 17, 2010 "Contribute content likethis. Start Here." >• More: >• Septicemia >• Algae >• >• tweet0>• Print>Flag >AdChoices>>>> >If algae blooms that can destroy ecosystems weren't enough to worry about now there is a newly identified species discovered by Teikyo University in Tokyo, a microalgae called prototheca cutis. It is closely related to prototheca wickerhamii, microalgae that does not photosynthesize and can cause infected nodules on the skin. >Prototheca cutis is similar in that it does not photosynthesize. This species of algae live in sewage water and soil where there is decomposing plant material. If you are someone with a compromised immune system and have an open sore and work near sewage or soil contaminated with sewage you may be susceptible. >The type of infection that occurs by these microalgae is a skin ulcer that discharges. There may be more than one ulcer in the same area as well. Serious systemic infections can also occur and it can spreadthroughout the entire body being very difficult to diagnose by symptoms alone. Infections like septicemia, spiking fevers, chills, rapid breathing, and rapid heart rate, and meningitis, swelling and irritation of the membranes covering the brain and spinal cord, can also occur. In animals and humans that have ingested these algae gastrointestinal disorders are common. >There is no treatment protocol because these types of infections are relatively new to the medical world. At the present time doctors are treating the infections with antifungal drugs but they do not always work. >Another problem with these microalgae that live on sewage is it may come in contact with cattle. If this happens the algae can enter through the cow udder causing bovine mastitis, an inflammatory disease of the udder. If you are a farm producing milk this would be very undesirable because this type of infection can decrease milk output and quality. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.