Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Biofilm is an issue for anyone with Lyme. Rifampin treats brain symptoms of Bart, Levquin treats from the neck down. Strange skin sensations is classic Bart.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I decided to use the Rifampin up since I had it already, so will report back if it seems to be helping... one of my main issues is biofilm, very little strange skin sensations in the last few months, occasional biting sensation on feet, but very rare. Also have had extreme fatigue for awhile. This is 300 mg Rifampin 2x/day. Dr. gives lots of refills if I want them. TYG for LLDs.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 3:51:58 PMSubject: Re: Moving Rifampin was somewhat effective for me, I really wasn't on it long enough. But from what I hear Levaquin is the topline treatment for Bart, it has been for me. Make sure you're on magnesium a couple weeks before taking it 800-1000 mg Mag glycinate, and stay on it throughout treatment- take 3 hrs away from Levaquin. The herxes are much more tolerable and less likely to have tendon issues that some get on Levaquin. The herx for me was brutal, but I'm not working. Start at 500 mg a day an hour away from food, after several months 500mg 2x a day. When I doubled the dose the herx was not as bad as when I first started on Levaquin. Hope this helps. Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000474/Info about Prazequantil... maybe I should have bit the bullet and just tried it.From: Goldstein@...To: bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:56:01 PMSubject: Re: Moving Aandraya,My doctor prescribed Rifampin for Bartonella and I still have not taken the prescription, because I did not want to do Doxy with the Rifampin, but have the prescription since June. Do you know of anyone who has had luck with that or should I just ask her for Levaquin script? For Morgellons she prescribed Prazequantil, 600 Tid and Metronidazole, 250 mg Tid. I went to fill the script for Prazequantil and it would have cost me over $1,000 for one script. I said "no thanks."From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:36:16 PMSubject: Re: Moving It's 8-12 months to treat, depending on how virulent the strain is, other coinfections, and of course immune system status. Levaquin has been nothing short of a miracle for my Bart. Going on 4 months.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I probably most likely still have Bartonella, but the main symptoms are decreased and foot sensations are mostly gone. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote: I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote: I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue. Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote: I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote: Hi whatstheuse2, We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service. From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I did order that book on Lyme disease you recommended. From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 4:57:22 PMSubject: Re: Moving Biofilm is an issue for anyone with Lyme. Rifampin treats brain symptoms of Bart, Levquin treats from the neck down. Strange skin sensations is classic Bart.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I decided to use the Rifampin up since I had it already, so will report back if it seems to be helping... one of my main issues is biofilm, very little strange skin sensations in the last few months, occasional biting sensation on feet, but very rare. Also have had extreme fatigue for awhile. This is 300 mg Rifampin 2x/day. Dr. gives lots of refills if I want them. TYG for LLDs.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 3:51:58 PMSubject: Re: Moving Rifampin was somewhat effective for me, I really wasn't on it long enough. But from what I hear Levaquin is the topline treatment for Bart, it has been for me. Make sure you're on magnesium a couple weeks before taking it 800-1000 mg Mag glycinate, and stay on it throughout treatment- take 3 hrs away from Levaquin. The herxes are much more tolerable and less likely to have tendon issues that some get on Levaquin. The herx for me was brutal, but I'm not working. Start at 500 mg a day an hour away from food, after several months 500mg 2x a day. When I doubled the dose the herx was not as bad as when I first started on Levaquin. Hope this helps. Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000474/Info about Prazequantil... maybe I should have bit the bullet and just tried it.From: Goldstein@...To: bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:56:01 PMSubject: Re: Moving Aandraya,My doctor prescribed Rifampin for Bartonella and I still have not taken the prescription, because I did not want to do Doxy with the Rifampin, but have the prescription since June. Do you know of anyone who has had luck with that or should I just ask her for Levaquin script? For Morgellons she prescribed Prazequantil, 600 Tid and Metronidazole, 250 mg Tid. I went to fill the script for Prazequantil and it would have cost me over $1,000 for one script. I said "no thanks."From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:36:16 PMSubject: Re: Moving It's 8-12 months to treat, depending on how virulent the strain is, other coinfections, and of course immune system status. Levaquin has been nothing short of a miracle for my Bart. Going on 4 months.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I probably most likely still have Bartonella, but the main symptoms are decreased and foot sensations are mostly gone. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote: I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote: I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue. Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote: I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote: Hi whatstheuse2, We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service. From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Hi!THanks for your e-mail, J david!We brought nothing and first put some things in storage but decided to get rid of that also. We only kept papers that we need to have for tax questions and we keep them in bankvault. Will take them out as late as possible and not at home.We succeeded in getting rid of the mites I think by the moving. We moved in may and I haven´t had a bite since then. (hardly dare to say it)But my smallest daughter developed eczema and my 8 year old staphylococcus as a left over from the mites. We might also have other coinfections (like lym eor bartonella/babesia) but that is nothing we are sure of. I had mites on me but when we left home we went to my work and showered in sulfur and went to the sauna.We also left the cars at the same time.Some people here has succeeded without moving but for me and Doris it was essential.I understand that you can feel depressed with the mites- they make you crazy!good luck and take care!Cecilia From: jdavid7476 <jdavid7476@...> bird mites Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 6:49 PM Subject: Re: moving Hi Cecilia, I am new to this nightmare. I am planning on moving as an option and it sounds like you were 100% successful in getting rid of these bugs by moving? Did you throw everything out? Did you put some possessions in storage? If so, are you going to retrieve them? How long are you going to wait? Also, the scariest part of me moving is not losing my possessions, it is having these bugs stay with me on my body. I am having problems getting them off my body. I am resolved to shave my head to get them out of my hair, but worried that they will hide on me other places. Did you have them on your body and how did you get rid of them. Just a note, they are on me, but they don't burrow into my skin, at least from what i can see? I am sorry for emailing you, but didnt know how to reply to just this comment? Maybe i will start a new thread with this email? Thank you for any information. I am desperate and a very depressed. > > Yes! > I have asked a vet researcher (who specializes in research oon birdmites) who told me he is sure that they can reproduce also on human blood. Even if they haven´t been 100% successful in proving it yet. > KR > Cecilia >  > > > ________________________________ > From: Elissa <elissarachel@...> > bird mites > Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 1:51 PM > Subject: Re: moving > > >  > In my experience, they reproduced on me and they don't need a bird host. > We moved and threw out a lot and put everything else in storage. Bought new...only necessities. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Does Karma have the black dots too?From: "christine french" <karmakatmeow@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 10:28:13 PMSubject: Re: movingOnly have visible bites if wear my shoes too longThen they really attack my toesVery painful if goes onAnd distressingTiny black dots:-(COn Sun, Dec 4, 2011 02:53 GMT Aandraya Da Silva wrote:>You need to catch and identify them. Do you have visible bites? I never saw mites, I saw collembola(springtails) though under the magnifying glass. And I saw them jump, plus stange things floating in the air. I do not know if I had mites as well as I never saw them. But whatever I had was in my house, on my body, and in my car. You need to treat your body or you will probably not be free of them.>>Aandraya>>On Dec 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, christine french wrote:>>> Do the igregulators in flea sprays help>> Sprayed this flat with permethrin and an igregulator>> Bit better but obviously offending nests need taken care of>> Why do folk say permethrin not succesful>> Is it because mites arachnids not insects?>> Spiders died in here with the spray,they arachnids>> Thanks>> C>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 12:53 GMT Elissa wrote:>> >> >When you move, you have to prevent them from reproducing. You can use an>> >insect growth regulator. So...once you kill them, there are no more eggs>> >or mites hiding in cracks.>> >>> >On Dec 3, 2011 7:41 AM, "christine french" <karmakatmeow@...> wrote:>> >>> >**>> >>> >>> >Hi>> >When people have moved n bugs come with them do they eventually die out as>> >no bird host.>> >Im confused>> >Do they need birds to breed>> >Do they breed happily on us n animals?>> >Conflicting things said on the web>> >Need to move as cannot get to source of problem here>> >But so scared to bring with me>> >What do people sugest its safe to bring?>> >Going to throw out my furniture for a start:-(>> >Thanks>> >Also how to get rid of them on old cat who cant take harsh chemicals?>> >Thanks>> >C>> >>> >>> >> >------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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