Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

[Guest guest]

Sandy-You have stretch mark looking lines on your abdomen? Lyme and Bartonella. The stuff coming out of your skin I believe is fungal infections. I had all the symptoms you listed below. All of them. You need to see a Lyme literate practitioner asap and start treatment. I would go to Dr. Cameron in New York if I lived in the SE area. Lyme treatment clears the "Morgellons"/fungal issues.Aandray On Oct 26, 2011, at 5:38 PM, sandy e <ellis.sandy1@...> wrote:

I can't post much I am hurting so much.

I started using this a few days ago and have hurt ever since.

I am also having things come out my skin when we use these convection propane heaters.

Chiro DX as Morgellons. I don't know if I belive him with just a kinesology test and I am the first person he has seen.

I have a appt with the Dr that works for Dr Kolb in Atlanta on Fri.

I hurt so m uch I am not sure I can make it.

I am seeing very small white things in my skin all over it was mostly where I have hair but now all over and I think these clump together and make a larger white balls.

I got the same thing with epsom salt bath with added borax and sea salt.

This was on Dr Kolb web site.

I see these white t hings all over the house.

I am thinking about putting some of this soap in the tri jet fogger.

I have two and one has been dropped and only one opening works.

Could this be springtails?

I can't take much more of this. I have had to get up and take a arm and hammer bath and added some permytherin.

I had a brain storm and desolved some enzymes that were slightly outdated and put them on the back of my neck the worse place.

It sure did make thingsk roll upo like dried skin but it was not skin.

I do see more red dots I never saw in the past one reason Drs didn't think I had mites. My stomach has small lines like very small stretch markes you get when you are pregenant.

Please someone let me hear I would go to the emegency room but I know what that would be.

Also I have heard from one very nice person there experience at Dr Kolb's and it was not the best but said I should go.

If I don't I don't know any other Dr and I hope that any morgellons dr would look at a possible mite issue and reconize it.

I don't see nearly as many black specks since we started useing these heaters.

We are haiving to do one room at a time and not as hot as 170.

It is killing things and also drying out the house more.

We have already melted somethings and even the lights in out masterbath jumped out of the wall at 125 degrees.

We just keep going back to the same rooms and can just keep doing that.

Please advise on this soap and the pain and white things.

Sandy

[Guest guest]

How can you diagnose morgellons with kinesiology when they don't even know what the morgellons pathology is? At this point it's a long list of symptoms that overlap with many other infectious diseases. Those that get the Morgellons symptoms have Lyme and coinfections plus secondary/opportunistic infections. Get on Itraconazole, Doxycycline, and later treat Babesia and use other abx cocktails- natural or Rx. Treating your environment is a small piece of the puzzle.AandrayaOn Oct 26, 2011, at 5:38 PM, sandy e <ellis.sandy1@...> wrote:

I can't post much I am hurting so much.

I started using this a few days ago and have hurt ever since.

I am also having things come out my skin when we use these convection propane heaters.

Chiro DX as Morgellons. I don't know if I belive him with just a kinesology test and I am the first person he has seen.

I have a appt with the Dr that works for Dr Kolb in Atlanta on Fri.

I hurt so m uch I am not sure I can make it.

I am seeing very small white things in my skin all over it was mostly where I have hair but now all over and I think these clump together and make a larger white balls.

I got the same thing with epsom salt bath with added borax and sea salt.

This was on Dr Kolb web site.

I see these white t hings all over the house.

I am thinking about putting some of this soap in the tri jet fogger.

I have two and one has been dropped and only one opening works.

Could this be springtails?

I can't take much more of this. I have had to get up and take a arm and hammer bath and added some permytherin.

I had a brain storm and desolved some enzymes that were slightly outdated and put them on the back of my neck the worse place.

It sure did make thingsk roll upo like dried skin but it was not skin.

I do see more red dots I never saw in the past one reason Drs didn't think I had mites. My stomach has small lines like very small stretch markes you get when you are pregenant.

Please someone let me hear I would go to the emegency room but I know what that would be.

Also I have heard from one very nice person there experience at Dr Kolb's and it was not the best but said I should go.

If I don't I don't know any other Dr and I hope that any morgellons dr would look at a possible mite issue and reconize it.

I don't see nearly as many black specks since we started useing these heaters.

We are haiving to do one room at a time and not as hot as 170.

It is killing things and also drying out the house more.

We have already melted somethings and even the lights in out masterbath jumped out of the wall at 125 degrees.

We just keep going back to the same rooms and can just keep doing that.

Please advise on this soap and the pain and white things.

Sandy

[Guest guest]

Sandy-The sretchmarks are Bartonella which means you also have Lyme. Yes, you could have springtails, I did have them at home and I saw them on my skin.AandrayaOn Oct 26, 2011, at 5:38 PM, sandy e <ellis.sandy1@...> wrote:

I can't post much I am hurting so much.

I started using this a few days ago and have hurt ever since.

I am also having things come out my skin when we use these convection propane heaters.

Chiro DX as Morgellons. I don't know if I belive him with just a kinesology test and I am the first person he has seen.

I have a appt with the Dr that works for Dr Kolb in Atlanta on Fri.

I hurt so m uch I am not sure I can make it.

I am seeing very small white things in my skin all over it was mostly where I have hair but now all over and I think these clump together and make a larger white balls.

I got the same thing with epsom salt bath with added borax and sea salt.

This was on Dr Kolb web site.

I see these white t hings all over the house.

I am thinking about putting some of this soap in the tri jet fogger.

I have two and one has been dropped and only one opening works.

Could this be springtails?

I can't take much more of this. I have had to get up and take a arm and hammer bath and added some permytherin.

I had a brain storm and desolved some enzymes that were slightly outdated and put them on the back of my neck the worse place.

It sure did make thingsk roll upo like dried skin but it was not skin.

I do see more red dots I never saw in the past one reason Drs didn't think I had mites. My stomach has small lines like very small stretch markes you get when you are pregenant.

Please someone let me hear I would go to the emegency room but I know what that would be.

Also I have heard from one very nice person there experience at Dr Kolb's and it was not the best but said I should go.

If I don't I don't know any other Dr and I hope that any morgellons dr would look at a possible mite issue and reconize it.

I don't see nearly as many black specks since we started useing these heaters.

We are haiving to do one room at a time and not as hot as 170.

It is killing things and also drying out the house more.

We have already melted somethings and even the lights in out masterbath jumped out of the wall at 125 degrees.

We just keep going back to the same rooms and can just keep doing that.

Please advise on this soap and the pain and white things.

Sandy

[Guest guest]

Sandy,I went to a large Lyme support group last week. Almost everyone there was talking about the stretch markings and dots... those do seem to be pretty typical of Lyme Disease and Bartonella. I didn't have the lines, but I have the dots too, hundreds of them. I also heard people talking about Lyme symptoms in the eyes. This is common in more advanced Lyme Disease. (I have it too). It can cause blindness if you do not attend to it with antibiotics. My sister who lives in Oregon is having Lyme symptoms in the eyes. She has decided not to go see a lyme literate doctor - (I found 2 trained by ILADS for her to choose from), and that is her choice. But I think you are much more open minded than she. I know you have an appointment on Friday, and I pray that something really good comes of that.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:59:35 PMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

How can you diagnose morgellons with kinesiology when they don't even know what the morgellons pathology is? At this point it's a long list of symptoms that overlap with many other infectious diseases. Those that get the Morgellons symptoms have Lyme and coinfections plus secondary/opportunistic infections. Get on Itraconazole, Doxycycline, and later treat Babesia and use other abx cocktails- natural or Rx. Treating your environment is a small piece of the puzzle.AandrayaOn Oct 26, 2011, at 5:38 PM, sandy e <ellis.sandy1@...> wrote:

I can't post much I am hurting so much.

I started using this a few days ago and have hurt ever since.

I am also having things come out my skin when we use these convection propane heaters.

Chiro DX as Morgellons. I don't know if I belive him with just a kinesology test and I am the first person he has seen.

I have a appt with the Dr that works for Dr Kolb in Atlanta on Fri.

I hurt so m uch I am not sure I can make it.

I am seeing very small white things in my skin all over it was mostly where I have hair but now all over and I think these clump together and make a larger white balls.

I got the same thing with epsom salt bath with added borax and sea salt.

This was on Dr Kolb web site.

I see these white t hings all over the house.

I am thinking about putting some of this soap in the tri jet fogger.

I have two and one has been dropped and only one opening works.

Could this be springtails?

I can't take much more of this. I have had to get up and take a arm and hammer bath and added some permytherin.

I had a brain storm and desolved some enzymes that were slightly outdated and put them on the back of my neck the worse place.

It sure did make thingsk roll upo like dried skin but it was not skin.

I do see more red dots I never saw in the past one reason Drs didn't think I had mites. My stomach has small lines like very small stretch markes you get when you are pregenant.

Please someone let me hear I would go to the emegency room but I know what that would be.

Also I have heard from one very nice person there experience at Dr Kolb's and it was not the best but said I should go.

If I don't I don't know any other Dr and I hope that any morgellons dr would look at a possible mite issue and reconize it.

I don't see nearly as many black specks since we started useing these heaters.

We are haiving to do one room at a time and not as hot as 170.

It is killing things and also drying out the house more.

We have already melted somethings and even the lights in out masterbath jumped out of the wall at 125 degrees.

We just keep going back to the same rooms and can just keep doing that.

Please advise on this soap and the pain and white things.

Sandy

[Guest guest]

Who knows, maybe springtails are carrying Lyme and Bartonella now.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:02:21 PMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

Sandy-The sretchmarks are Bartonella which means you also have Lyme. Yes, you could have springtails, I did have them at home and I saw them on my skin.AandrayaOn Oct 26, 2011, at 5:38 PM, sandy e <ellis.sandy1@...> wrote:

I can't post much I am hurting so much.

I started using this a few days ago and have hurt ever since.

I am also having things come out my skin when we use these convection propane heaters.

Chiro DX as Morgellons. I don't know if I belive him with just a kinesology test and I am the first person he has seen.

I have a appt with the Dr that works for Dr Kolb in Atlanta on Fri.

I hurt so m uch I am not sure I can make it.

I am seeing very small white things in my skin all over it was mostly where I have hair but now all over and I think these clump together and make a larger white balls.

I got the same thing with epsom salt bath with added borax and sea salt.

This was on Dr Kolb web site.

I see these white t hings all over the house.

I am thinking about putting some of this soap in the tri jet fogger.

I have two and one has been dropped and only one opening works.

Could this be springtails?

I can't take much more of this. I have had to get up and take a arm and hammer bath and added some permytherin.

I had a brain storm and desolved some enzymes that were slightly outdated and put them on the back of my neck the worse place.

It sure did make thingsk roll upo like dried skin but it was not skin.

I do see more red dots I never saw in the past one reason Drs didn't think I had mites. My stomach has small lines like very small stretch markes you get when you are pregenant.

Please someone let me hear I would go to the emegency room but I know what that would be.

Also I have heard from one very nice person there experience at Dr Kolb's and it was not the best but said I should go.

If I don't I don't know any other Dr and I hope that any morgellons dr would look at a possible mite issue and reconize it.

I don't see nearly as many black specks since we started useing these heaters.

We are haiving to do one room at a time and not as hot as 170.

It is killing things and also drying out the house more.

We have already melted somethings and even the lights in out masterbath jumped out of the wall at 125 degrees.

We just keep going back to the same rooms and can just keep doing that.

Please advise on this soap and the pain and white things.

Sandy

[Guest guest]

Tell me about the dots, please, ? I had them at the intersection of the diamonds you see in skin texture under a microscope. From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday,

October 26, 2011 7:46 PMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

Sandy,I went to a large Lyme support group last week. Almost everyone there was talking about the stretch markings and dots... those do seem to be pretty typical of Lyme Disease and Bartonella. I didn't have the lines, but I have the dots too, hundreds of them. I also heard people talking about Lyme symptoms in the eyes. This is common in more advanced Lyme Disease. (I have it too). It can cause blindness if you do not attend to it with antibiotics. My sister who lives in Oregon is having Lyme symptoms in the eyes. She has decided not to go see a lyme literate doctor - (I found 2 trained by ILADS for her to choose from), and that is her choice. But I think you are much more open minded than she. I know you have an appointment on Friday, and I pray that something really good comes of

that.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:59:35 PMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

How can you diagnose morgellons with kinesiology when they don't even know what the morgellons pathology is? At this point it's a long list of symptoms that overlap with many other infectious diseases. Those that get the Morgellons symptoms have Lyme and coinfections plus secondary/opportunistic infections. Get on Itraconazole, Doxycycline, and later treat Babesia and use other abx cocktails- natural or Rx. Treating your environment is a small piece of the puzzle.AandrayaOn Oct 26, 2011, at 5:38 PM, sandy e <ellis.sandy1@...> wrote:

I can't post much I am hurting so much.

I started using this a few days ago and have hurt ever since.

I am also having things come out my skin when we use these convection propane heaters.

Chiro DX as Morgellons. I don't know if I belive him with just a kinesology test and I am the first person he has seen.

I have a appt with the Dr that works for Dr Kolb in Atlanta on Fri.

I hurt so m uch I am not sure I can make it.

I am seeing very small white things in my skin all over it was mostly where I have hair but now all over and I think these clump together and make a larger white balls.

I got the same thing with epsom salt bath with added borax and sea salt.

This was on Dr Kolb web site.

I see these white t hings all over the house.

I am thinking about putting some of this soap in the tri jet fogger.

I have two and one has been dropped and only one opening works.

Could this be springtails?

I can't take much more of this. I have had to get up and take a arm and hammer bath and added some permytherin.

I had a brain storm and desolved some enzymes that were slightly outdated and put them on the back of my neck the worse place.

It sure did make thingsk roll upo like dried skin but it was not skin.

I do see more red dots I never saw in the past one reason Drs didn't think I had mites. My stomach has small lines like very small stretch markes you get when you are pregenant.

Please someone let me hear I would go to the emegency room but I know what that would be.

Also I have heard from one very nice person there experience at Dr Kolb's and it was not the best but said I should go.

If I don't I don't know any other Dr and I hope that any morgellons dr would look at a possible mite issue and reconize it.

I don't see nearly as many black specks since we started useing these heaters.

We are haiving to do one room at a time and not as hot as 170.

It is killing things and also drying out the house more.

We have already melted somethings and even the lights in out masterbath jumped out of the wall at 125 degrees.

We just keep going back to the same rooms and can just keep doing that.

Please advise on this soap and the pain and white things.

Sandy

[Guest guest]

All I know is what I see and what I've read and heard from people, but these are always caused as a result of bartonella. Bart almost always comes with Lyme, although I wonder if the bart can be with us alone. I just don't know, but I do know I have Lyme and Bart. If you have the red dots (I also had black dots under microscope) that is bart. Bart manifests on the skin but is in all the cells.From: "Kajay109" <kajay109@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 9:03:26 PMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

Tell me about the dots, please, ? I had them at the intersection of the diamonds you see in skin texture under a microscope. From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday,

October 26, 2011 7:46 PMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

Sandy,I went to a large Lyme support group last week. Almost everyone there was talking about the stretch markings and dots... those do seem to be pretty typical of Lyme Disease and Bartonella. I didn't have the lines, but I have the dots too, hundreds of them. I also heard people talking about Lyme symptoms in the eyes. This is common in more advanced Lyme Disease. (I have it too). It can cause blindness if you do not attend to it with antibiotics. My sister who lives in Oregon is having Lyme symptoms in the eyes. She has decided not to go see a lyme literate doctor - (I found 2 trained by ILADS for her to choose from), and that is her choice. But I think you are much more open minded than she. I know you have an appointment on Friday, and I pray that something really good comes of

that.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:59:35 PMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

How can you diagnose morgellons with kinesiology when they don't even know what the morgellons pathology is? At this point it's a long list of symptoms that overlap with many other infectious diseases. Those that get the Morgellons symptoms have Lyme and coinfections plus secondary/opportunistic infections. Get on Itraconazole, Doxycycline, and later treat Babesia and use other abx cocktails- natural or Rx. Treating your environment is a small piece of the puzzle.AandrayaOn Oct 26, 2011, at 5:38 PM, sandy e <ellis.sandy1@...> wrote:

I can't post much I am hurting so much.

I started using this a few days ago and have hurt ever since.

I am also having things come out my skin when we use these convection propane heaters.

Chiro DX as Morgellons. I don't know if I belive him with just a kinesology test and I am the first person he has seen.

I have a appt with the Dr that works for Dr Kolb in Atlanta on Fri.

I hurt so m uch I am not sure I can make it.

I am seeing very small white things in my skin all over it was mostly where I have hair but now all over and I think these clump together and make a larger white balls.

I got the same thing with epsom salt bath with added borax and sea salt.

This was on Dr Kolb web site.

I see these white t hings all over the house.

I am thinking about putting some of this soap in the tri jet fogger.

I have two and one has been dropped and only one opening works.

Could this be springtails?

I can't take much more of this. I have had to get up and take a arm and hammer bath and added some permytherin.

I had a brain storm and desolved some enzymes that were slightly outdated and put them on the back of my neck the worse place.

It sure did make thingsk roll upo like dried skin but it was not skin.

I do see more red dots I never saw in the past one reason Drs didn't think I had mites. My stomach has small lines like very small stretch markes you get when you are pregenant.

Please someone let me hear I would go to the emegency room but I know what that would be.

Also I have heard from one very nice person there experience at Dr Kolb's and it was not the best but said I should go.

If I don't I don't know any other Dr and I hope that any morgellons dr would look at a possible mite issue and reconize it.

I don't see nearly as many black specks since we started useing these heaters.

We are haiving to do one room at a time and not as hot as 170.

It is killing things and also drying out the house more.

We have already melted somethings and even the lights in out masterbath jumped out of the wall at 125 degrees.

We just keep going back to the same rooms and can just keep doing that.

Please advise on this soap and the pain and white things.

Sandy

[Guest guest]

Hi, !The dots you talk about is it like small blisters, or just red or like small lesions?

KR

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:27 AMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

All I know is what I see and what I've read and heard from people, but these are always caused as a result of bartonella. Bart almost always comes with Lyme, although I wonder if the bart can be with us alone. I just don't know, but I do know I have Lyme and Bart. If you have the red dots (I also had black dots under microscope) that is bart. Bart manifests on the skin but is in all the cells.

From: "Kajay109" <kajay109@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 9:03:26 PMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

Tell me about the dots, please, ? I had them at the intersection of the diamonds you see in skin texture under a microscope.

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 7:46 PMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

Sandy,

I went to a large Lyme support group last week. Almost everyone there was talking about the stretch markings and dots... those do seem to be pretty typical of Lyme Disease and Bartonella. I didn't have the lines, but I have the dots too, hundreds of them. I also heard people talking about Lyme symptoms in the eyes. This is common in more advanced Lyme Disease. (I have it too). It can cause blindness if you do not attend to it with antibiotics. My sister who lives in Oregon is having Lyme symptoms in the eyes. She has decided not to go see a lyme literate doctor - (I found 2 trained by ILADS for her to choose from), and that is her choice. But I think you are much more open minded than she. I know you have an appointment on Friday, and I pray that something really good comes of that.

From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:59:35 PMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

How can you diagnose morgellons with kinesiology when they don't even know what the morgellons pathology is? At this point it's a long list of symptoms that overlap with many other infectious diseases. Those that get the Morgellons symptoms have Lyme and coinfections plus secondary/opportunistic infections. Get on Itraconazole, Doxycycline, and later treat Babesia and use other abx cocktails- natural or Rx. Treating your environment is a small piece of the puzzle.

Aandraya

On Oct 26, 2011, at 5:38 PM, sandy e <ellis.sandy1@...> wrote:

I can't post much I am hurting so much.I started using this a few days ago and have hurt ever since.I am also having things come out my skin when we use these convection propane heaters.Chiro DX as Morgellons. I don't know if I belive him with just a kinesology test and I am the first person he has seen.I have a appt with the Dr that works for Dr Kolb in Atlanta on Fri.I hurt so m uch I am not sure I can make it.I am seeing very small white things in my skin all over it was mostly where I have hair but now all over and I think these clump together and make a larger white balls. I got the same thing with epsom salt bath with added borax and sea salt.This was on Dr Kolb web site.I see these white t hings all over the house.I am thinking about putting some of this soap in the tri jet fogger.I have two and one has been dropped and only one opening works.Could this be

springtails?I can't take much more of this. I have had to get up and take a arm and hammer bath and added some permytherin.I had a brain storm and desolved some enzymes that were slightly outdated and put them on the back of my neck the worse place.It sure did make thingsk roll upo like dried skin but it was not skin.I do see more red dots I never saw in the past one reason Drs didn't think I had mites. My stomach has small lines like very small stretch markes you get when you are pregenant.Please someone let me hear I would go to the emegency room but I know what that would be.Also I have heard from one very nice person there experience at Dr Kolb's and it was not the best but said I should go.If I don't I don't know any other Dr and I hope that any morgellons dr would look at a possible mite issue and reconize it.I don't see nearly as many black specks since we started useing these

heaters.We are haiving to do one room at a time and not as hot as 170.It is killing things and also drying out the house more.We have already melted somethings and even the lights in out masterbath jumped out of the wall at 125 degrees.We just keep going back to the same rooms and can just keep doing that.Please advise on this soap and the pain and white things.Sandy

[Guest guest]

Hi Cecilia,I have both the red dots which on my arms by the hundreds and the small blisters on my face... do either of your daughters have 1) the small red dots or 2) the small blisters that come and go along with a greasiness? Love ya! From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 4:40:56 AMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

Hi, !The dots you talk about is it like small blisters, or just red or like small lesions?

KR

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:27 AMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

All I know is what I see and what I've read and heard from people, but these are always caused as a result of bartonella. Bart almost always comes with Lyme, although I wonder if the bart can be with us alone. I just don't know, but I do know I have Lyme and Bart. If you have the red dots (I also had black dots under microscope) that is bart. Bart manifests on the skin but is in all the cells.

From: "Kajay109" <kajay109@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 9:03:26 PMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

Tell me about the dots, please, ? I had them at the intersection of the diamonds you see in skin texture under a microscope.

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 7:46 PMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

Sandy,

I went to a large Lyme support group last week. Almost everyone there was talking about the stretch markings and dots... those do seem to be pretty typical of Lyme Disease and Bartonella. I didn't have the lines, but I have the dots too, hundreds of them. I also heard people talking about Lyme symptoms in the eyes. This is common in more advanced Lyme Disease. (I have it too). It can cause blindness if you do not attend to it with antibiotics. My sister who lives in Oregon is having Lyme symptoms in the eyes. She has decided not to go see a lyme literate doctor - (I found 2 trained by ILADS for her to choose from), and that is her choice. But I think you are much more open minded than she. I know you have an appointment on Friday, and I pray that something really good comes of that.

From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:59:35 PMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

How can you diagnose morgellons with kinesiology when they don't even know what the morgellons pathology is? At this point it's a long list of symptoms that overlap with many other infectious diseases. Those that get the Morgellons symptoms have Lyme and coinfections plus secondary/opportunistic infections. Get on Itraconazole, Doxycycline, and later treat Babesia and use other abx cocktails- natural or Rx. Treating your environment is a small piece of the puzzle.

Aandraya

On Oct 26, 2011, at 5:38 PM, sandy e <ellis.sandy1@...> wrote:

I can't post much I am hurting so much.I started using this a few days ago and have hurt ever since.I am also having things come out my skin when we use these convection propane heaters.Chiro DX as Morgellons. I don't know if I belive him with just a kinesology test and I am the first person he has seen.I have a appt with the Dr that works for Dr Kolb in Atlanta on Fri.I hurt so m uch I am not sure I can make it.I am seeing very small white things in my skin all over it was mostly where I have hair but now all over and I think these clump together and make a larger white balls. I got the same thing with epsom salt bath with added borax and sea salt.This was on Dr Kolb web site.I see these white t hings all over the house.I am thinking about putting some of this soap in the tri jet fogger.I have two and one has been dropped and only one opening works.Could this be

springtails?I can't take much more of this. I have had to get up and take a arm and hammer bath and added some permytherin.I had a brain storm and desolved some enzymes that were slightly outdated and put them on the back of my neck the worse place.It sure did make thingsk roll upo like dried skin but it was not skin.I do see more red dots I never saw in the past one reason Drs didn't think I had mites. My stomach has small lines like very small stretch markes you get when you are pregenant.Please someone let me hear I would go to the emegency room but I know what that would be.Also I have heard from one very nice person there experience at Dr Kolb's and it was not the best but said I should go.If I don't I don't know any other Dr and I hope that any morgellons dr would look at a possible mite issue and reconize it.I don't see nearly as many black specks since we started useing these

heaters.We are haiving to do one room at a time and not as hot as 170.It is killing things and also drying out the house more.We have already melted somethings and even the lights in out masterbath jumped out of the wall at 125 degrees.We just keep going back to the same rooms and can just keep doing that.Please advise on this soap and the pain and white things.Sandy

[Guest guest]

Hi, !They don´t seem to have that. THey more have blisters on the body and nothing on the face (so far).But I had some blisters on my face before moving and was told it was perioral dermatitis and with doxy for 6 weeks it was gone.Only time I had no problems with getting antibiotics (got it from a private derm).I hope you are doing as good as you can and am sending many warm thoughts to you .Hope your phone "conference" will be great. Let me know what you all talked about.Lova ya too!CeciliaFrom: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:19 PMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

Hi Cecilia,I have both the red dots which on my arms by the hundreds and the small blisters on my face... do either of your daughters have 1) the small red dots or 2) the small blisters that come and go along with a greasiness? Love ya! From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 4:40:56 AMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

Hi, !The dots you talk about is it like small blisters, or just red or like small lesions?

KR

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:27 AMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

All I know is what I see and what I've read and heard from people, but these are always caused as a result of bartonella. Bart almost always comes with Lyme, although I wonder if the bart can be with us alone. I just don't know, but I do know I have Lyme and Bart. If you have the red dots (I also had black dots under microscope) that is bart. Bart manifests on the skin but is in all the cells.

From: "Kajay109" <kajay109@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 9:03:26 PMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

Tell me about the dots, please, ? I had them at the intersection of the diamonds you see in skin texture under a microscope.

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 7:46 PMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

Sandy,

I went to a large Lyme support group last week. Almost everyone there was talking about the stretch markings and dots... those do seem to be pretty typical of Lyme Disease and Bartonella. I didn't have the lines, but I have the dots too, hundreds of them. I also heard people talking about Lyme symptoms in the eyes. This is common in more advanced Lyme Disease. (I have it too). It can cause blindness if you do not attend to it with antibiotics. My sister who lives in Oregon is having Lyme symptoms in the eyes. She has decided not to go see a lyme literate doctor - (I found 2 trained by ILADS for her to choose from), and that is her choice. But I think you are much more open minded than she. I know you have an appointment on Friday, and I pray that something really good comes of that.

From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:59:35 PMSubject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

How can you diagnose morgellons with kinesiology when they don't even know what the morgellons pathology is? At this point it's a long list of symptoms that overlap with many other infectious diseases. Those that get the Morgellons symptoms have Lyme and coinfections plus secondary/opportunistic infections. Get on Itraconazole, Doxycycline, and later treat Babesia and use other abx cocktails- natural or Rx. Treating your environment is a small piece of the puzzle.

Aandraya

On Oct 26, 2011, at 5:38 PM, sandy e <ellis.sandy1@...> wrote:

I can't post much I am hurting so much.I started using this a few days ago and have hurt ever since.I am also having things come out my skin when we use these convection propane heaters.Chiro DX as Morgellons. I don't know if I belive him with just a kinesology test and I am the first person he has seen.I have a appt with the Dr that works for Dr Kolb in Atlanta on Fri.I hurt so m uch I am not sure I can make it.I am seeing very small white things in my skin all over it was mostly where I have hair but now all over and I think these clump together and make a larger white balls. I got the same thing with epsom salt bath with added borax and sea salt.This was on Dr Kolb web site.I see these white t hings all over the house.I am thinking about putting some of this soap in the tri jet fogger.I have two and one has been dropped and only one opening works.Could this be

springtails?I can't take much more of this. I have had to get up and take a arm and hammer bath and added some permytherin.I had a brain storm and desolved some enzymes that were slightly outdated and put them on the back of my neck the worse place.It sure did make thingsk roll upo like dried skin but it was not skin.I do see more red dots I never saw in the past one reason Drs didn't think I had mites. My stomach has small lines like very small stretch markes you get when you are pregenant.Please someone let me hear I would go to the emegency room but I know what that would be.Also I have heard from one very nice person there experience at Dr Kolb's and it was not the best but said I should go.If I don't I don't know any other Dr and I hope that any morgellons dr would look at a possible mite issue and reconize it.I don't see nearly as many black specks since we started useing these

heaters.We are haiving to do one room at a time and not as hot as 170.It is killing things and also drying out the house more.We have already melted somethings and even the lights in out masterbath jumped out of the wall at 125 degrees.We just keep going back to the same rooms and can just keep doing that.Please advise on this soap and the pain and white things.Sandy

[Guest guest]

They are probably already being very careful not to touch their face after

touching any infected area without first and sanitizing their hands. O use cheap

lightly powdered vinyl gloves so I am not constantly having to scrub my hands

...best price I've found are made by Noble. I use size small for more precise

activities like computer and medium all other times as it is a speck easier io

fey the larger size on and off quickly. I think I pay under $4peryour 100glive

box but shipping offsets that a little. Even factoring in shipping, I think they

still come out cheapest. Source: webstaurantstore.com

Let me know if you have an even cheaper source.

Kajay

On Fri Oct 28th, 2011 1:21 AM EDT Cecilia Borg wrote:

>Hi, !

>They don´t seem to have that. THey more have blisters on the body and nothing

on the face (so far).

>But I had some blisters on my face before moving and was told it was perioral

dermatitis and with doxy for 6 weeks it was gone.

>Only time I had no problems with getting antibiotics (got it from a private

derm).

>I hope you are doing as good as you can and am sending many warm thoughts to

you .

>Hope your phone " conference " will be great. Let me know what you all talked

about.

>Lova ya too!

>Cecilia

>

>

>________________________________

>From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:19 PM

>Subject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

>

>

> 

>Hi Cecilia,

>

>I have both the red dots which on my arms by the hundreds and the small

blisters on my face... do either of your daughters have 1) the small red dots or

2) the small blisters that come and go along with a greasiness?  

>

>Love ya!  

>

>________________________________

>From: " Cecilia Borg " <ceciliaborg@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 4:40:56 AM

>Subject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap:   Hurting BAD

>

> 

>Hi, !

>The dots you talk about is it like small blisters, or just red or like small

lesions?

>KR

>Cecilia

>

>From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:27 AM

>Subject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

>

>

> 

>All I know is what I see and what I've read and heard from people, but these

are always caused as a result of bartonella.  Bart almost always comes with

Lyme, although I wonder if the bart can be with us alone.  I just don't know,

but I do know I have Lyme and Bart.  If you have the red dots (I also had black

dots under microscope) that is bart.  Bart manifests on the skin but is in all

the cells.

>

>

>

>From: " Kajay109 " <kajay109@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 9:03:26 PM

>Subject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap:   Hurting BAD

>

> 

>Tell me about the dots, please, ? I had them at the intersection of the

diamonds you see in skin texture under a microscope.

>

>From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 7:46 PM

>Subject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

>

>

> 

>Sandy,

>

>I went to a large Lyme support group last week.  Almost everyone there was

talking about the stretch markings and dots... those do seem to be pretty

typical of Lyme Disease and Bartonella.  I didn't have the lines, but I have the

dots too, hundreds of them.  I also heard people talking about Lyme symptoms in

the eyes. This is common in more advanced Lyme Disease.  (I have it too).  It

can cause blindness if you do not attend to it with antibiotics.  My sister who

lives in Oregon is having Lyme symptoms in the eyes.  She has decided not to go

see a lyme literate doctor - (I found 2 trained by ILADS for her to choose

from), and that is her choice.  But I think you are much more open minded than

she.  I know you have an appointment on Friday, and I pray that something really

good comes of that.

>

>

>

>From: " Aandraya " <aandraya@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:59:35 PM

>Subject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap:   Hurting BAD

>

> 

>How can you diagnose morgellons with kinesiology when they don't even know what

the morgellons pathology is?  At this point it's a long list of symptoms that

overlap with many other infectious diseases. Those that get the Morgellons

symptoms have Lyme and coinfections plus secondary/opportunistic infections.

 Get on Itraconazole, Doxycycline, and later treat Babesia and use other abx

cocktails- natural or Rx.  Treating your environment is a small piece of the

puzzle.

>Aandraya

>

>

>

>

>On Oct 26, 2011, at 5:38 PM, sandy e <ellis.sandy1@...> wrote:

>

>

> 

>>I can't post much I am hurting so much.

>>I started using this a few days ago and have hurt ever since.

>>

>>I am also having things come out my skin when we use these convection propane

heaters.

>>

>>Chiro DX as Morgellons. I don't know if I belive him with just a kinesology

test and I am the first person he has seen.

>>

>>I have a appt with the Dr that works for Dr Kolb in Atlanta on Fri.

>>I hurt so m uch I am not sure I can make it.

>>

>>I am seeing very small white things in my skin all over it was mostly where I

have hair but now all over and I think these clump together and make a larger

white balls.

>>I got the same thing with epsom salt bath with added borax and sea salt.

>>This was on Dr Kolb web site.

>>I see these white t hings all over the house.

>>I am thinking about putting some of this soap in the tri jet fogger.

>>I have two and one has been dropped and only one opening works.

>>

>>Could this be

> springtails?

>>

>>I can't take much more of this. I have had to get up and take a arm and hammer

bath and added some permytherin.

>>I had a brain storm and desolved some enzymes that were slightly outdated and

put them on the back of my neck the worse place.

>>

>>It sure did make thingsk roll upo like dried skin but it was not skin.

>>

>>I do see more red dots I never saw in the past one reason Drs didn't think I

had mites. My stomach has small lines like very small stretch markes you get

when you are pregenant.

>>

>>Please someone let me hear I would go to the emegency room but I know what

that would be.

>>

>>Also I have heard from one very nice person there experience at Dr Kolb's and

it was not the best but said I should go.

>>

>>If I don't I don't know any other Dr and I hope that any morgellons dr would

look at a possible mite issue and reconize it.

>>

>>I don't see nearly as many black specks since we started useing these

> heaters.

>>We are haiving to do one room at a time and not as hot as 170.

>>It is killing things and also drying out the house more.

>>

>>We have already melted somethings and even the lights in out masterbath jumped

out of the wall at 125 degrees.

>>

>>We just keep going back to the same rooms and can just keep doing that.

>>

>>Please advise on this soap and the pain and white things.

>>

>>Sandy

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Could y'all tell what I was trying to say below despite the funky

word-recognition software on my phone, lol?

Kajay

On Fri Oct 28th, 2011 2:48 PM EDT Kajay109 wrote:

>They are probably already being very careful not to touch their face after

touching any infected area without first and sanitizing their hands. O use cheap

lightly powdered vinyl gloves so I am not constantly having to scrub my hands

...best price I've found are made by Noble. I use size small for more precise

activities like computer and medium all other times as it is a speck easier io

fey the larger size on and off quickly. I think I pay under $4peryour 100glive

box but shipping offsets that a little. Even factoring in shipping, I think they

still come out cheapest. Source: webstaurantstore.com

>

>Let me know if you have an even cheaper source.

>

>Kajay

>

>

>On Fri Oct 28th, 2011 1:21 AM EDT Cecilia Borg wrote:

>

>>Hi, !

>>They don´t seem to have that. THey more have blisters on the body and nothing

on the face (so far).

>>But I had some blisters on my face before moving and was told it was perioral

dermatitis and with doxy for 6 weeks it was gone.

>>Only time I had no problems with getting antibiotics (got it from a private

derm).

>>I hope you are doing as good as you can and am sending many warm thoughts to

you .

>>Hope your phone " conference " will be great. Let me know what you all talked

about.

>>Lova ya too!

>>Cecilia

>>

>>

>>________________________________

>>From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

>>bird mites

>>Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:19 PM

>>Subject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

>>

>>

>> 

>>Hi Cecilia,

>>

>>I have both the red dots which on my arms by the hundreds and the small

blisters on my face... do either of your daughters have 1) the small red dots or

2) the small blisters that come and go along with a greasiness?  

>>

>>Love ya!  

>>

>>________________________________

>>From: " Cecilia Borg " <ceciliaborg@...>

>>bird mites

>>Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 4:40:56 AM

>>Subject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap:   Hurting BAD

>>

>> 

>>Hi, !

>>The dots you talk about is it like small blisters, or just red or like small

lesions?

>>KR

>>Cecilia

>>

>>From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

>>bird mites

>>Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:27 AM

>>Subject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

>>

>>

>> 

>>All I know is what I see and what I've read and heard from people, but these

are always caused as a result of bartonella.  Bart almost always comes with

Lyme, although I wonder if the bart can be with us alone.  I just don't know,

but I do know I have Lyme and Bart.  If you have the red dots (I also had black

dots under microscope) that is bart.  Bart manifests on the skin but is in all

the cells.

>>

>>

>>

>>From: " Kajay109 " <kajay109@...>

>>bird mites

>>Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 9:03:26 PM

>>Subject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap:   Hurting BAD

>>

>> 

>>Tell me about the dots, please, ? I had them at the intersection of the

diamonds you see in skin texture under a microscope.

>>

>>From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

>>bird mites

>>Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 7:46 PM

>>Subject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap: Hurting BAD

>>

>>

>> 

>>Sandy,

>>

>>I went to a large Lyme support group last week.  Almost everyone there was

talking about the stretch markings and dots... those do seem to be pretty

typical of Lyme Disease and Bartonella.  I didn't have the lines, but I have the

dots too, hundreds of them.  I also heard people talking about Lyme symptoms in

the eyes. This is common in more advanced Lyme Disease.  (I have it too).  It

can cause blindness if you do not attend to it with antibiotics.  My sister who

lives in Oregon is having Lyme symptoms in the eyes.  She has decided not to go

see a lyme literate doctor - (I found 2 trained by ILADS for her to choose

from), and that is her choice.  But I think you are much more open minded than

she.  I know you have an appointment on Friday, and I pray that something really

good comes of that.

>>

>>

>>

>>From: " Aandraya " <aandraya@...>

>>bird mites

>>Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:59:35 PM

>>Subject: Re: Miracle Mineral Soap:   Hurting BAD

>>

>> 

>>How can you diagnose morgellons with kinesiology when they don't even know

what the morgellons pathology is?  At this point it's a long list of symptoms

that overlap with many other infectious diseases. Those that get the Morgellons

symptoms have Lyme and coinfections plus secondary/opportunistic infections.

 Get on Itraconazole, Doxycycline, and later treat Babesia and use other abx

cocktails- natural or Rx.  Treating your environment is a small piece of the

puzzle.

>>Aandraya

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>On Oct 26, 2011, at 5:38 PM, sandy e <ellis.sandy1@...> wrote:

>>

>>

>> 

>>>I can't post much I am hurting so much.

>>>I started using this a few days ago and have hurt ever since.

>>>

>>>I am also having things come out my skin when we use these convection propane

heaters.

>>>

>>>Chiro DX as Morgellons. I don't know if I belive him with just a kinesology

test and I am the first person he has seen.

>>>

>>>I have a appt with the Dr that works for Dr Kolb in Atlanta on Fri.

>>>I hurt so m uch I am not sure I can make it.

>>>

>>>I am seeing very small white things in my skin all over it was mostly where I

have hair but now all over and I think these clump together and make a larger

white balls.

>>>I got the same thing with epsom salt bath with added borax and sea salt.

>>>This was on Dr Kolb web site.

>>>I see these white t hings all over the house.

>>>I am thinking about putting some of this soap in the tri jet fogger.

>>>I have two and one has been dropped and only one opening works.

>>>

>>>Could this be

>> springtails?

>>>

>>>I can't take much more of this. I have had to get up and take a arm and

hammer bath and added some permytherin.

>>>I had a brain storm and desolved some enzymes that were slightly outdated and

put them on the back of my neck the worse place.

>>>

>>>It sure did make thingsk roll upo like dried skin but it was not skin.

>>>

>>>I do see more red dots I never saw in the past one reason Drs didn't think I

had mites. My stomach has small lines like very small stretch markes you get

when you are pregenant.

>>>

>>>Please someone let me hear I would go to the emegency room but I know what

that would be.

>>>

>>>Also I have heard from one very nice person there experience at Dr Kolb's and

it was not the best but said I should go.

>>>

>>>If I don't I don't know any other Dr and I hope that any morgellons dr would

look at a possible mite issue and reconize it.

>>>

>>>I don't see nearly as many black specks since we started useing these

>> heaters.

>>>We are haiving to do one room at a time and not as hot as 170.

>>>It is killing things and also drying out the house more.

>>>

>>>We have already melted somethings and even the lights in out masterbath

jumped out of the wall at 125 degrees.

>>>

>>>We just keep going back to the same rooms and can just keep doing that.

>>>

>>>Please advise on this soap and the pain and white things.

>>>

>>>Sandy

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>