Re: Lint Bugs!

[Guest guest]

Lyme disease runs in cycles? Have you considered lyme? I will not buy anything

100% cotton anymore.

http://members.shaw.ca/rolfwitzsche/canada/morgellons_fibre_disease.html

http://birdmites.org/forum.html

>

> I want to share a most alarming experience. When I was in Lakeland, Florida,

I went shopping at the local Walmart and bought 6 warm shirts. Two were waffle

shirts, two were polo shirts, and two were sweat shirts that I did not realize

had a fleese lining. I put all of them in the washer with Lysol and was very

surprised when I opened the washer when finished. About 2 cups of lint covered

everything! I suspected the fleese lined sweatshirts, so I took them out and

put them in the dryer to see if the lint would come off while I rewashed the

others. When dry, I put them in a trash bag, as they were still covered, and

dried the other shirts. I took one out at the end of the cycle and took a lint

roller to it. I was seeing what I had seen almost two years ago when this all

started.....towers of lint in white but looking gray when removed by the lint

roller. Those 1/2 inch size gray/blue with some other colored fibers lint bugs

that Aandraya or Kajay identified kept falling to the floor from the clothing as

I inspected them. The lint was tenacious as it seemed to cling strongly to the

material. I turned everything inside out after rolling and was aghaust to see

the inside covered as badly. I threw everything in the garbage. I took the

lint trap, which was covered in gray towers, and set it in the bathroom sink and

rinsed. Nothing came off. I sprayed it with Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and

left to start cleaning the grid that leads to the lint tray one hole at a time.

Lots came out. I returned to the bathroom after about 15 minutes and not a bit

of lint in sight! Not even in the sink! That tells me this is a fugus or mold

of somekind. I rinsed the tray and sprayed it again and went back to finish the

vent. Then I washed the entire drum and door of the dryer with vinegar and put

an old cotton shirt in to dry so that it might collect anything I missed. I

cleaned it again this morning and am washing again. Note: Is this what

happened in the beginning? Did I purchase something that infected my dryer.

Yes, the 5 bird's nest were in the outtake vent, but what if the introduction of

this mold/fungus coxed the mites etc, to enter into the dryer and thus me?

> Another observation.........

> Remember I said there seemed to be a 3 month rhythm? Well, I can't tell if it

is 10 weeks or 14 weeks, somewhere in there stuff surfaces and then tries to set

up a lesion on my skin. Hard to tell the exact time as once it hits the

surface, a lump could take weeks to open and then weeks before healing starts.

Never the less, 3 months is about average for panic activity to occur. I looked

up how long it takes the dermas to reach the surface.

> It takes 48 days for a dermas cell to become an epidermas cell. That is

roughly 7 weeks. I now realize how these encapsulated fungus balls get to the

surface. Like popcorn, the rising cells randomly push the capsuls. I had been

on the Intraconazole for 10 weeks when a new crop of capsules hit the surface.

Difference is, they are tiny now, don't cause lesions, and heal away in about a

week or two. I feel less and less of them under my skin, so I expect the

medicine is stopping the production as the remaining offenders are still exiting

my skin. I can tell you exactly where a small slit is going to appear in the

future as the offender exits. This being the case, the very long time one must

be on internals is explained. Fungus/mold encased is protected from medication

until hitting the surface. Then surface remedys help in the fight. What do you

folks think?

> Love and light,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,

My Dr. is a LLD and he doesn't think I match the symptoms for Lyme. He has me on Acyclovir and Intraconazole, and I put myself on Bactrim. I've been coming along beautifully since he started to treat me. I was glad to read your post that Bactrim also works for some funguses. I did put the idea of Lyme to him, so I know he is watching for such things. How are you doing Marie?

Love and light,

From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:58 AMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

Lyme disease runs in cycles? Have you considered lyme? I will not buy anything 100% cotton anymore. http://members.shaw.ca/rolfwitzsche/canada/morgellons_fibre_disease.htmlhttp://birdmites.org/forum.html--- In bird mites , " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:>> I want to share a most alarming experience. When I was in Lakeland, Florida, I went shopping at the local Walmart and bought 6 warm shirts. Two were waffle shirts, two were polo shirts, and two were sweat shirts that I did not realize had a fleese lining. I put all of them in the washer with Lysol and was very surprised when I opened the washer when finished. About 2 cups of lint covered everything! I suspected the fleese lined sweatshirts, so I took them out and put them in the dryer to see if the lint would

come off while I rewashed the others. When dry, I put them in a trash bag, as they were still covered, and dried the other shirts. I took one out at the end of the cycle and took a lint roller to it. I was seeing what I had seen almost two years ago when this all started.....towers of lint in white but looking gray when removed by the lint roller. Those 1/2 inch size gray/blue with some other colored fibers lint bugs that Aandraya or Kajay identified kept falling to the floor from the clothing as I inspected them. The lint was tenacious as it seemed to cling strongly to the material. I turned everything inside out after rolling and was aghaust to see the inside covered as badly. I threw everything in the garbage. I took the lint trap, which was covered in gray towers, and set it in the bathroom sink and rinsed. Nothing came off. I sprayed it with Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and left to start cleaning the grid that leads to the lint tray one hole at a

time. Lots came out. I returned to the bathroom after about 15 minutes and not a bit of lint in sight! Not even in the sink! That tells me this is a fugus or mold of somekind. I rinsed the tray and sprayed it again and went back to finish the vent. Then I washed the entire drum and door of the dryer with vinegar and put an old cotton shirt in to dry so that it might collect anything I missed. I cleaned it again this morning and am washing again. Note: Is this what happened in the beginning? Did I purchase something that infected my dryer. Yes, the 5 bird's nest were in the outtake vent, but what if the introduction of this mold/fungus coxed the mites etc, to enter into the dryer and thus me? > Another observation.........> Remember I said there seemed to be a 3 month rhythm? Well, I can't tell if it is 10 weeks or 14 weeks, somewhere in there stuff surfaces and then tries to set up a lesion on my skin. Hard to tell the exact time as once

it hits the surface, a lump could take weeks to open and then weeks before healing starts. Never the less, 3 months is about average for panic activity to occur. I looked up how long it takes the dermas to reach the surface.> It takes 48 days for a dermas cell to become an epidermas cell. That is roughly 7 weeks. I now realize how these encapsulated fungus balls get to the surface. Like popcorn, the rising cells randomly push the capsuls. I had been on the Intraconazole for 10 weeks when a new crop of capsules hit the surface. Difference is, they are tiny now, don't cause lesions, and heal away in about a week or two. I feel less and less of them under my skin, so I expect the medicine is stopping the production as the remaining offenders are still exiting my skin. I can tell you exactly where a small slit is going to appear in the future as the offender exits. This being the case, the very long time one must be on internals is explained.

Fungus/mold encased is protected from medication until hitting the surface. Then surface remedys help in the fight. What do you folks think?> Love and light,> >

[Guest guest]

It sounds like you have a lot to deal with. I'm glad to hear that you are pushing through in a positive manner though. Someday, when the world understands, excepts, and treats the conditions we here have experienced, retirement will not be the only path which supports healing. These exhausted and sick people will be allowed to heal at home until well enough to return to work. In the meantime, you are in a good position to do this. Hope all stays well for you.

Love and light,

From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 12:26 PMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

I have beaten the bugs, and lyme. Dealing with systemic issues, arthritis, myofascial pain ect. Also diagnosed with TOS, thoriac outlet syndrome, very painful. On the PC very little now. I have stopped work, given up my horses, and slowed down. At the age to retire anyway. Enjoying my farm, and pets. This infestation, and lyme has changed my life, but still in the running finals:)> >> > I want to share a most alarming experience. When I was in Lakeland, Florida, I went shopping at the local Walmart and bought 6 warm shirts. Two were waffle shirts, two were polo shirts, and two were sweat shirts that I did not realize had a fleese lining. I put all of them in the washer with Lysol and was very surprised when I opened the washer when finished. About 2 cups of lint covered everything! I suspected the fleese lined sweatshirts, so I took them out and put them in the dryer to see if the lint would come off while I rewashed the others. When dry, I put them in a trash bag, as they were still covered, and dried the other shirts. I took one out at the end of the cycle and took a lint roller to it. I was seeing what I had seen almost two years ago when this all started.....towers of lint in white

but looking gray when removed by the lint roller. Those 1/2 inch size gray/blue with some other colored fibers lint bugs that Aandraya or Kajay> identified kept falling to the floor from the clothing as I inspected them. The lint was tenacious as it seemed to cling strongly to the material. I turned everything inside out after rolling and was aghaust to see the inside covered as badly. I threw everything in the garbage. I took the lint trap, which was covered in gray towers, and set it in the bathroom sink and rinsed. Nothing came off. I sprayed it with Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and left to start cleaning the grid that leads to the lint tray one hole at a time. Lots came out. I returned to the bathroom after about 15 minutes and not a bit of lint in sight! Not even in the sink! That tells me this is a fugus or mold of somekind. I rinsed the tray and sprayed it again and went back to finish the vent. Then I washed the entire drum and door of

the dryer with vinegar and put an old cotton shirt in to dry so that it might collect anything I missed. I cleaned it again this morning and am washing> again. Note: Is this what happened in the beginning? Did I purchase something that infected my dryer. Yes, the 5 bird's nest were in the outtake vent, but what if the introduction of this mold/fungus coxed the mites etc, to enter into the dryer and thus me? > > Another observation.........> > Remember I said there seemed to be a 3 month rhythm? Well, I can't tell if it is 10 weeks or 14 weeks, somewhere in there stuff surfaces and then tries to set up a lesion on my skin. Hard to tell the exact time as once it hits the surface, a lump could take weeks to open and then weeks before healing starts. Never the less, 3 months is about average for panic activity to occur. I looked up how long it takes the dermas to reach the surface.> > It takes 48 days for a dermas cell

to become an epidermas cell. That is roughly 7 weeks. I now realize how these encapsulated fungus balls get to the surface. Like popcorn, the rising cells randomly push the capsuls. I had been on the Intraconazole for 10 weeks when a new crop of capsules hit the surface. Difference is, they are tiny now, don't cause lesions, and heal away in about a week or two. I feel less and less of them under my skin, so I expect the medicine is stopping the production as the remaining offenders are still exiting my skin. I can tell you exactly where a small slit is going to appear in the future as the offender exits. This being the case, the very long time one must be on internals is explained. Fungus/mold encased is protected from medication until hitting the surface. Then surface remedys help in the fight. What do you folks think?> > Love and light,> > > >>

[Guest guest]

-That is my worst nightmare, to have something reinfect my washer/dryer clothes or wherever from which the live lint balls first appeared. Sounds like you got it though, I would have panicked. So you think it is fungus? Not tiny bugs that were in the shirts you bought? Because they seemed to be alive...they attach tightly to anything. I'm in a fog right now and need to reread your post later, I'm confused as to the life cycle of these organisms. I've used the Super Soda wash twice now in my bath and you're right, it does pull stuff out of the skin. Glad you suggested that. I'm going to start using it daily. How much Itraconazole are you taking? Consider adding Doxycycline and Levaquin to your protocol. Keep your hypothesis coming as to what we are dealing with, I'd like to get a discussion going around these infectionsAandraya On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

I want to share a most alarming experience. When I was in Lakeland, Florida, I went shopping at the local Walmart and bought 6 warm shirts. Two were waffle shirts, two were polo shirts, and two were sweat shirts that I did not realize had a fleese lining. I put all of them in the washer with Lysol and was very surprised when I opened the washer when finished. About 2 cups of lint covered everything! I suspected the fleese lined sweatshirts, so I took them out and put them in the dryer to see if the lint would come off while I rewashed the others. When dry, I put them in a trash bag, as they were still covered, and dried the other shirts. I took one out at the end of the cycle and took a lint roller to it. I was seeing what I had seen almost two years ago when this all started.....towers of lint in white but looking gray when removed by the lint roller. Those 1/2 inch size gray/blue with some other colored fibers lint bugs that Aandraya or Kajay identified kept

falling to the floor from the clothing as I inspected them. The lint was tenacious as it seemed to cling strongly to the material. I turned everything inside out after rolling and was aghaust to see the inside covered as badly. I threw everything in the garbage. I took the lint trap, which was covered in gray towers, and set it in the bathroom sink and rinsed. Nothing came off. I sprayed it with Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and left to start cleaning the grid that leads to the lint tray one hole at a time. Lots came out. I returned to the bathroom after about 15 minutes and not a bit of lint in sight! Not even in the sink! That tells me this is a fugus or mold of somekind. I rinsed the tray and sprayed it again and went back to finish the vent. Then I washed the entire drum and door of the dryer with vinegar and put an old cotton shirt in to dry so that it might collect anything I missed. I cleaned it again this morning and am washing again. Note: Is this what

happened in the beginning? Did I purchase something that infected my dryer. Yes, the 5 bird's nest were in the outtake vent, but what if the introduction of this mold/fungus coxed the mites etc, to enter into the dryer and thus me?

Another observation.........

Remember I said there seemed to be a 3 month rhythm? Well, I can't tell if it is 10 weeks or 14 weeks, somewhere in there stuff surfaces and then tries to set up a lesion on my skin. Hard to tell the exact time as once it hits the surface, a lump could take weeks to open and then weeks before healing starts. Never the less, 3 months is about average for panic activity to occur. I looked up how long it takes the dermas to reach the surface.

It takes 48 days for a dermas cell to become an epidermas cell. That is roughly 7 weeks. I now realize how these encapsulated fungus balls get to the surface. Like popcorn, the rising cells randomly push the capsuls. I had been on the Intraconazole for 10 weeks when a new crop of capsules hit the surface. Difference is, they are tiny now, don't cause lesions, and heal away in about a week or two. I feel less and less of them under my skin, so I expect the medicine is stopping the production as the remaining offenders are still exiting my skin. I can tell you exactly where a small slit is going to appear in the future as the offender exits. This being the case, the very long time one must be on internals is explained. Fungus/mold encased is protected from medication until hitting the surface. Then surface remedys help in the fight. What do you folks think?

Love and light,

[Guest guest]

-

I'd like to set up a conference call with you, , Aggi and whoever

else try and answer some questions we all have around this stuff. You

have a lot documented. Would you be interested in doing that?

Aandraya

On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

-On what basis did he say that? Did you get the Igenix test?AandrayaOn Oct 23, 2011, at 11:22 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

Hi Marie,

My Dr. is a LLD and he doesn't think I match the symptoms for Lyme. He has me on Acyclovir and Intraconazole, and I put myself on Bactrim. I've been coming along beautifully since he started to treat me. I was glad to read your post that Bactrim also works for some funguses. I did put the idea of Lyme to him, so I know he is watching for such things. How are you doing Marie?

Love and light,

From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:58 AMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

Lyme disease runs in cycles? Have you considered lyme? I will not buy anything 100% cotton anymore. http://members.shaw.ca/rolfwitzsche/canada/morgellons_fibre_disease.htmlhttp://birdmites.org/forum.html--- In bird mites , " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:>> I want to share a most alarming experience. When I was in Lakeland, Florida, I went shopping at the local Walmart and bought 6 warm shirts. Two were waffle shirts, two were polo shirts, and two were sweat shirts that I did not realize had a fleese lining. I put all of them in the washer with Lysol and was very surprised when I opened the washer when finished. About 2 cups of lint covered everything! I suspected the fleese lined sweatshirts, so I took them out and put them in the dryer to see if the lint would

come off while I rewashed the others. When dry, I put them in a trash bag, as they were still covered, and dried the other shirts. I took one out at the end of the cycle and took a lint roller to it. I was seeing what I had seen almost two years ago when this all started.....towers of lint in white but looking gray when removed by the lint roller. Those 1/2 inch size gray/blue with some other colored fibers lint bugs that Aandraya or Kajay identified kept falling to the floor from the clothing as I inspected them. The lint was tenacious as it seemed to cling strongly to the material. I turned everything inside out after rolling and was aghaust to see the inside covered as badly. I threw everything in the garbage. I took the lint trap, which was covered in gray towers, and set it in the bathroom sink and rinsed. Nothing came off. I sprayed it with Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and left to start cleaning the grid that leads to the lint tray one hole at a

time. Lots came out. I returned to the bathroom after about 15 minutes and not a bit of lint in sight! Not even in the sink! That tells me this is a fugus or mold of somekind. I rinsed the tray and sprayed it again and went back to finish the vent. Then I washed the entire drum and door of the dryer with vinegar and put an old cotton shirt in to dry so that it might collect anything I missed. I cleaned it again this morning and am washing again. Note: Is this what happened in the beginning? Did I purchase something that infected my dryer. Yes, the 5 bird's nest were in the outtake vent, but what if the introduction of this mold/fungus coxed the mites etc, to enter into the dryer and thus me? > Another observation.........> Remember I said there seemed to be a 3 month rhythm? Well, I can't tell if it is 10 weeks or 14 weeks, somewhere in there stuff surfaces and then tries to set up a lesion on my skin. Hard to tell the exact time as once

it hits the surface, a lump could take weeks to open and then weeks before healing starts. Never the less, 3 months is about average for panic activity to occur. I looked up how long it takes the dermas to reach the surface.> It takes 48 days for a dermas cell to become an epidermas cell. That is roughly 7 weeks. I now realize how these encapsulated fungus balls get to the surface. Like popcorn, the rising cells randomly push the capsuls. I had been on the Intraconazole for 10 weeks when a new crop of capsules hit the surface. Difference is, they are tiny now, don't cause lesions, and heal away in about a week or two. I feel less and less of them under my skin, so I expect the medicine is stopping the production as the remaining offenders are still exiting my skin. I can tell you exactly where a small slit is going to appear in the future as the offender exits. This being the case, the very long time one must be on internals is explained.

Fungus/mold encased is protected from medication until hitting the surface. Then surface remedys help in the fight. What do you folks think?> Love and light,> >

[Guest guest]

You say you were treated for Lyme, for how long? You still have symptoms and treatment should not have stopped.AandrayaOn Oct 23, 2011, at 11:26 AM, healinghope <mfrreman@...> wrote:

I have beaten the bugs, and lyme. Dealing with systemic issues, arthritis, myofascial pain ect. Also diagnosed with TOS, thoriac outlet syndrome, very painful. On the PC very little now. I have stopped work, given up my horses, and slowed down. At the age to retire anyway. Enjoying my farm, and pets. This infestation, and lyme has changed my life, but still in the running finals:)

> >

> > I want to share a most alarming experience. When I was in Lakeland, Florida, I went shopping at the local Walmart and bought 6 warm shirts. Two were waffle shirts, two were polo shirts, and two were sweat shirts that I did not realize had a fleese lining. I put all of them in the washer with Lysol and was very surprised when I opened the washer when finished. About 2 cups of lint covered everything! I suspected the fleese lined sweatshirts, so I took them out and put them in the dryer to see if the lint would come off while I rewashed the others. When dry, I put them in a trash bag, as they were still covered, and dried the other shirts. I took one out at the end of the cycle and took a lint roller to it. I was seeing what I had seen almost two years ago when this all started.....towers of lint in white but looking gray when removed by the lint roller. Those 1/2 inch size gray/blue with some other colored fibers lint bugs that Aandraya or Kajay

> identified kept falling to the floor from the clothing as I inspected them. The lint was tenacious as it seemed to cling strongly to the material. I turned everything inside out after rolling and was aghaust to see the inside covered as badly. I threw everything in the garbage. I took the lint trap, which was covered in gray towers, and set it in the bathroom sink and rinsed. Nothing came off. I sprayed it with Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and left to start cleaning the grid that leads to the lint tray one hole at a time. Lots came out. I returned to the bathroom after about 15 minutes and not a bit of lint in sight! Not even in the sink! That tells me this is a fugus or mold of somekind. I rinsed the tray and sprayed it again and went back to finish the vent. Then I washed the entire drum and door of the dryer with vinegar and put an old cotton shirt in to dry so that it might collect anything I missed. I cleaned it again this morning and am washing

> again. Note: Is this what happened in the beginning? Did I purchase something that infected my dryer. Yes, the 5 bird's nest were in the outtake vent, but what if the introduction of this mold/fungus coxed the mites etc, to enter into the dryer and thus me?

> > Another observation.........

> > Remember I said there seemed to be a 3 month rhythm? Well, I can't tell if it is 10 weeks or 14 weeks, somewhere in there stuff surfaces and then tries to set up a lesion on my skin. Hard to tell the exact time as once it hits the surface, a lump could take weeks to open and then weeks before healing starts. Never the less, 3 months is about average for panic activity to occur. I looked up how long it takes the dermas to reach the surface.

> > It takes 48 days for a dermas cell to become an epidermas cell. That is roughly 7 weeks. I now realize how these encapsulated fungus balls get to the surface. Like popcorn, the rising cells randomly push the capsuls. I had been on the Intraconazole for 10 weeks when a new crop of capsules hit the surface. Difference is, they are tiny now, don't cause lesions, and heal away in about a week or two. I feel less and less of them under my skin, so I expect the medicine is stopping the production as the remaining offenders are still exiting my skin. I can tell you exactly where a small slit is going to appear in the future as the offender exits. This being the case, the very long time one must be on internals is explained. Fungus/mold encased is protected from medication until hitting the surface. Then surface remedys help in the fight. What do you folks think?

> > Love and light,

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I would be interested Aandraya! How do we do it?Sent from my iPodOn Oct 23, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

-

I'd like to set up a conference call with you, , Aggi and whoever

else try and answer some questions we all have around this stuff. You

have a lot documented. Would you be interested in doing that?

Aandraya

On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

-We get a number we all call into, set a time for the call, they give you an access code. When would be a good time for you?On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:52 PM, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

I would be interested Aandraya! How do we do it?Sent from my iPodOn Oct 23, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

-

I'd like to set up a conference call with you, , Aggi and whoever

else try and answer some questions we all have around this stuff. You

have a lot documented. Would you be interested in doing that?

Aandraya

On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

Aandraya,Tuesday through Wednesday and Friday of this week are good for me, any time during those days. Have you set one of these up before? Is it something we pay for? Hours for me would be 9-6 pm Pacific time, but I could do it in the evenings too after dinner, say 7 - 9 pm too if that works. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:38:13 PMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

-We get a number we all call into, set a time for the call, they give you an access code. When would be a good time for you?On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:52 PM, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

I would be interested Aandraya! How do we do it?Sent from my iPodOn Oct 23, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

-

I'd like to set up a conference call with you, , Aggi and whoever

else try and answer some questions we all have around this stuff. You

have a lot documented. Would you be interested in doing that?

Aandraya

On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

There are two things that our critters have that we can identify positively to distinguish them from lint:

They BITE. Lint does not bite. It might sting due if it causes an allergic or chemical reaction in the skin, but it does not - EVER - leave bloody holes in our skin.

I can, under a 60X microscope (all I use) SEE their little black legs amongst the beigey-grayish fibers, quite often identify at least one PAIR of legs. Lint has no legs. Also, those legs often clearly end in insect feet, and I can often also see what are clearly cilia on the legs.

kajay

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:20 AMSubject: Lint Bugs!

I want to share a most alarming experience. When I was in Lakeland, Florida, I went shopping at the local Walmart and bought 6 warm shirts. Two were waffle shirts, two were polo shirts, and two were sweat shirts that I did not realize had a fleese lining. I put all of them in the washer with Lysol and was very surprised when I opened the washer when finished. About 2 cups of lint covered everything! I suspected the fleese lined sweatshirts, so I took them out and put them in the dryer to see if the lint would come off while I rewashed the others. When dry, I put them in a trash bag, as they were still covered, and dried the other shirts. I took one out at the end of the cycle and took a lint roller to it. I was seeing what I had seen almost two years ago when this all started.....towers of lint in white but looking gray when removed by the lint roller. Those 1/2 inch size gray/blue with some other colored fibers lint bugs that Aandraya or Kajay

identified kept falling to the floor from the clothing as I inspected them. The lint was tenacious as it seemed to cling strongly to the material. I turned everything inside out after rolling and was aghaust to see the inside covered as badly. I threw everything in the garbage. I took the lint trap, which was covered in gray towers, and set it in the bathroom sink and rinsed. Nothing came off. I sprayed it with Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and left to start cleaning the grid that leads to the lint tray one hole at a time. Lots came out. I returned to the bathroom after about 15 minutes and not a bit of lint in sight! Not even in the sink! That tells me this is a fugus or mold of somekind. I rinsed the tray and sprayed it again and went back to finish the vent. Then I washed the entire drum and door of the dryer with vinegar and put an old cotton shirt in to dry so that it might collect anything I missed. I cleaned it again this morning and am washing

again. Note: Is this what happened in the beginning? Did I purchase something that infected my dryer. Yes, the 5 bird's nest were in the outtake vent, but what if the introduction of this mold/fungus coxed the mites etc, to enter into the dryer and thus me? Another observation.........Remember I said there seemed to be a 3 month rhythm? Well, I can't tell if it is 10 weeks or 14 weeks, somewhere in there stuff surfaces and then tries to set up a lesion on my skin. Hard to tell the exact time as once it hits the surface, a lump could take weeks to open and then weeks before healing starts. Never the less, 3 months is about average for panic activity to occur. I looked up how long it takes the dermas to reach the surface.It takes 48 days for a dermas cell to become an epidermas cell. That is roughly 7 weeks. I now realize how these encapsulated fungus balls get to the surface. Like popcorn, the rising cells randomly push the capsuls. I had

been on the Intraconazole for 10 weeks when a new crop of capsules hit the surface. Difference is, they are tiny now, don't cause lesions, and heal away in about a week or two. I feel less and less of them under my skin, so I expect the medicine is stopping the production as the remaining offenders are still exiting my skin. I can tell you exactly where a small slit is going to appear in the future as the offender exits. This being the case, the very long time one must be on internals is explained. Fungus/mold encased is protected from medication until hitting the surface. Then surface remedys help in the fight. What do you folks think?Love and light,

[Guest guest]

- conference calls are free. Anyone else interested in doing a group call?Wow, that Arm and Hammer Super Soda Wash in the bath is a powerful detoxifier!Aandraya On Oct 24, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Aandraya,Tuesday through Wednesday and Friday of this week are good for me, any time during those days. Have you set one of these up before? Is it something we pay for? Hours for me would be 9-6 pm Pacific time, but I could do it in the evenings too after dinner, say 7 - 9 pm too if that works. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:38:13 PMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

-We get a number we all call into, set a time for the call, they give you an access code. When would be a good time for you?On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:52 PM, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

I would be interested Aandraya! How do we do it?Sent from my iPodOn Oct 23, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

-

I'd like to set up a conference call with you, , Aggi and whoever

else try and answer some questions we all have around this stuff. You

have a lot documented. Would you be interested in doing that?

Aandraya

On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

How about Friday for a group call? Anyone interested and if so have a preferred time? I'm central time, is pacific.AandrayaOn Oct 24, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Aandraya,Tuesday through Wednesday and Friday of this week are good for me, any time during those days. Have you set one of these up before? Is it something we pay for? Hours for me would be 9-6 pm Pacific time, but I could do it in the evenings too after dinner, say 7 - 9 pm too if that works. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:38:13 PMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

-We get a number we all call into, set a time for the call, they give you an access code. When would be a good time for you?On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:52 PM, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

I would be interested Aandraya! How do we do it?Sent from my iPodOn Oct 23, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

-

I'd like to set up a conference call with you, , Aggi and whoever

else try and answer some questions we all have around this stuff. You

have a lot documented. Would you be interested in doing that?

Aandraya

On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

Sounds good to me Aandraya. Any time on Friday is good here. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:02:52 PMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

How about Friday for a group call? Anyone interested and if so have a preferred time? I'm central time, is pacific.AandrayaOn Oct 24, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Aandraya,Tuesday through Wednesday and Friday of this week are good for me, any time during those days. Have you set one of these up before? Is it something we pay for? Hours for me would be 9-6 pm Pacific time, but I could do it in the evenings too after dinner, say 7 - 9 pm too if that works. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:38:13 PMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

-We get a number we all call into, set a time for the call, they give you an access code. When would be a good time for you?On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:52 PM, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

I would be interested Aandraya! How do we do it?Sent from my iPodOn Oct 23, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

-

I'd like to set up a conference call with you, , Aggi and whoever

else try and answer some questions we all have around this stuff. You

have a lot documented. Would you be interested in doing that?

Aandraya

On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Andraya,

Yes. I think it was a mold or fungus because how else would the lint towers on the lint trap disappear? I tried to rinse it away and nothing happened. I sprayed it with the Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and it decinerates into nothing? Not even evidence of it in the sink? Blimy, that scared me!

I'm taking 100 mg of Intraconazole a day. My doctor wants me to stay on it 2 more months and then stop to see if it is gone. Not looking forward to that.

Can't beat those Super Soda Bathes:)

Love and light,

M

<aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:24 PMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

-

That is my worst nightmare, to have something reinfect my washer/dryer clothes or wherever from which the live lint balls first appeared. Sounds like you got it though, I would have panicked. So you think it is fungus? Not tiny bugs that were in the shirts you bought? Because they seemed to be alive...they attach tightly to anything. I'm in a fog right now and need to reread your post later, I'm confused as to the life cycle of these organisms. I've used the Super Soda wash twice now in my bath and you're right, it does pull stuff out of the skin. Glad you suggested that. I'm going to start using it daily. How much Itraconazole are you taking? Consider adding Doxycycline and Levaquin to your protocol.

Keep your hypothesis coming as to what we are dealing with, I'd like to get a discussion going around these infections

Aandraya

On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

I want to share a most alarming experience. When I was in Lakeland, Florida, I went shopping at the local Walmart and bought 6 warm shirts. Two were waffle shirts, two were polo shirts, and two were sweat shirts that I did not realize had a fleese lining. I put all of them in the washer with Lysol and was very surprised when I opened the washer when finished. About 2 cups of lint covered everything! I suspected the fleese lined sweatshirts, so I took them out and put them in the dryer to see if the lint would come off while I rewashed the others. When dry, I put them in a trash bag, as they were still covered, and dried the other shirts. I took one out at the end of the cycle and took a lint roller to it. I was seeing what I had seen almost two years ago when this all started.....towers of lint in white but looking gray when removed by the lint roller. Those 1/2 inch size gray/blue with some other colored fibers lint bugs that Aandraya or Kajay

identified kept falling to the floor from the clothing as I inspected them. The lint was tenacious as it seemed to cling strongly to the material. I turned everything inside out after rolling and was aghaust to see the inside covered as badly. I threw everything in the garbage. I took the lint trap, which was covered in gray towers, and set it in the bathroom sink and rinsed. Nothing came off. I sprayed it with Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and left to start cleaning the grid that leads to the lint tray one hole at a time. Lots came out. I returned to the bathroom after about 15 minutes and not a bit of lint in sight! Not even in the sink! That tells me this is a fugus or mold of somekind. I rinsed the tray and sprayed it again and went back to finish the vent. Then I washed the entire drum and door of the dryer with vinegar and put an old cotton shirt in to dry so that it might collect anything I missed. I cleaned it again this morning and am washing

again. Note: Is this what happened in the beginning? Did I purchase something that infected my dryer. Yes, the 5 bird's nest were in the outtake vent, but what if the introduction of this mold/fungus coxed the mites etc, to enter into the dryer and thus me? Another observation.........Remember I said there seemed to be a 3 month rhythm? Well, I can't tell if it is 10 weeks or 14 weeks, somewhere in there stuff surfaces and then tries to set up a lesion on my skin. Hard to tell the exact time as once it hits the surface, a lump could take weeks to open and then weeks before healing starts. Never the less, 3 months is about average for panic activity to occur. I looked up how long it takes the dermas to reach the surface.It takes 48 days for a dermas cell to become an epidermas cell. That is roughly 7 weeks. I now realize how these encapsulated fungus balls get to the surface. Like popcorn, the rising cells randomly push the capsuls. I had

been on the Intraconazole for 10 weeks when a new crop of capsules hit the surface. Difference is, they are tiny now, don't cause lesions, and heal away in about a week or two. I feel less and less of them under my skin, so I expect the medicine is stopping the production as the remaining offenders are still exiting my skin. I can tell you exactly where a small slit is going to appear in the future as the offender exits. This being the case, the very long time one must be on internals is explained. Fungus/mold encased is protected from medication until hitting the surface. Then surface remedys help in the fight. What do you folks think?Love and light,

[Guest guest]

A conference call sounds great!

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:38 PMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

-I'd like to set up a conference call with you, , Aggi and whoever else try and answer some questions we all have around this stuff. You have a lot documented. Would you be interested in doing that?AandrayaOn Oct 23, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:>

[Guest guest]

No, Andraya, I did not get a test. I do know, however, that he will move the Lyme route if I continue to have any trouble cause he takes great pride in his treatments and getting people well. The fact that I mentioned it I feel is enough of a seed to get his thinking to slide in that direction if need be. Any other doctor would have taken offense, but my doctor is always listening carefully and his mind keeps turning these things over.

Love and light,

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Lint Bugs!

-

On what basis did he say that? Did you get the Igenix test?

Aandraya

On Oct 23, 2011, at 11:22 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

Hi Marie,

My Dr. is a LLD and he doesn't think I match the symptoms for Lyme. He has me on Acyclovir and Intraconazole, and I put myself on Bactrim. I've been coming along beautifully since he started to treat me. I was glad to read your post that Bactrim also works for some funguses. I did put the idea of Lyme to him, so I know he is watching for such things. How are you doing Marie?

Love and light,

From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:58 AMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

Lyme disease runs in cycles? Have you considered lyme? I will not buy anything 100% cotton anymore. http://members.shaw.ca/rolfwitzsche/canada/morgellons_fibre_disease.htmlhttp://birdmites.org/forum.html--- In bird mites , " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:>> I want to share a most alarming experience. When I was in Lakeland, Florida, I went shopping at the local Walmart and bought 6 warm shirts. Two were waffle shirts, two were polo shirts, and two were sweat shirts that I did not realize had a fleese lining. I put all of them in the washer with Lysol and was very surprised when I opened the washer when finished. About 2 cups of lint covered everything! I suspected the fleese lined sweatshirts, so I took them out and put them in the dryer to see if the lint would

come off while I rewashed the others. When dry, I put them in a trash bag, as they were still covered, and dried the other shirts. I took one out at the end of the cycle and took a lint roller to it. I was seeing what I had seen almost two years ago when this all started.....towers of lint in white but looking gray when removed by the lint roller. Those 1/2 inch size gray/blue with some other colored fibers lint bugs that Aandraya or Kajay identified kept falling to the floor from the clothing as I inspected them. The lint was tenacious as it seemed to cling strongly to the material. I turned everything inside out after rolling and was aghaust to see the inside covered as badly. I threw everything in the garbage. I took the lint trap, which was covered in gray towers, and set it in the bathroom sink and rinsed. Nothing came off. I sprayed it with Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and left to start cleaning the grid that leads to the lint tray one hole at a

time. Lots came out. I returned to the bathroom after about 15 minutes and not a bit of lint in sight! Not even in the sink! That tells me this is a fugus or mold of somekind. I rinsed the tray and sprayed it again and went back to finish the vent. Then I washed the entire drum and door of the dryer with vinegar and put an old cotton shirt in to dry so that it might collect anything I missed. I cleaned it again this morning and am washing again. Note: Is this what happened in the beginning? Did I purchase something that infected my dryer. Yes, the 5 bird's nest were in the outtake vent, but what if the introduction of this mold/fungus coxed the mites etc, to enter into the dryer and thus me? > Another observation.........> Remember I said there seemed to be a 3 month rhythm? Well, I can't tell if it is 10 weeks or 14 weeks, somewhere in there stuff surfaces and then tries to set up a lesion on my skin. Hard to tell the exact time as once

it hits the surface, a lump could take weeks to open and then weeks before healing starts. Never the less, 3 months is about average for panic activity to occur. I looked up how long it takes the dermas to reach the surface.> It takes 48 days for a dermas cell to become an epidermas cell. That is roughly 7 weeks. I now realize how these encapsulated fungus balls get to the surface. Like popcorn, the rising cells randomly push the capsuls. I had been on the Intraconazole for 10 weeks when a new crop of capsules hit the surface. Difference is, they are tiny now, don't cause lesions, and heal away in about a week or two. I feel less and less of them under my skin, so I expect the medicine is stopping the production as the remaining offenders are still exiting my skin. I can tell you exactly where a small slit is going to appear in the future as the offender exits. This being the case, the very long time one must be on internals is explained.

Fungus/mold encased is protected from medication until hitting the surface. Then surface remedys help in the fight. What do you folks think?> Love and light,> >

[Guest guest]

Kajay,

I guess about 8 lint bugs fell to the floor. I assume they were dead from the Lysol soak. I wasn't thrilled at seeing them again. So important to wash new clothing first. Wow. Take me back to Kansus, Toto.

Love and light,

From: Kajay109 <kajay109@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:50 AMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

There are two things that our critters have that we can identify positively to distinguish them from lint:

They BITE. Lint does not bite. It might sting due if it causes an allergic or chemical reaction in the skin, but it does not - EVER - leave bloody holes in our skin.

I can, under a 60X microscope (all I use) SEE their little black legs amongst the beigey-grayish fibers, quite often identify at least one PAIR of legs. Lint has no legs. Also, those legs often clearly end in insect feet, and I can often also see what are clearly cilia on the legs.

kajay

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:20 AMSubject: Lint Bugs!

I want to share a most alarming experience. When I was in Lakeland, Florida, I went shopping at the local Walmart and bought 6 warm shirts. Two were waffle shirts, two were polo shirts, and two were sweat shirts that I did not realize had a fleese lining. I put all of them in the washer with Lysol and was very surprised when I opened the washer when finished. About 2 cups of lint covered everything! I suspected the fleese lined sweatshirts, so I took them out and put them in the dryer to see if the lint would come off while I rewashed the others. When dry, I put them in a trash bag, as they were still covered, and dried the other shirts. I took one out at the end of the cycle and took a lint roller to it. I was seeing what I had seen almost two years ago when this all started.....towers of lint in white but looking gray when removed by the lint roller. Those 1/2 inch size gray/blue with some other colored fibers lint bugs that Aandraya or Kajay

identified kept falling to the floor from the clothing as I inspected them. The lint was tenacious as it seemed to cling strongly to the material. I turned everything inside out after rolling and was aghaust to see the inside covered as badly. I threw everything in the garbage. I took the lint trap, which was covered in gray towers, and set it in the bathroom sink and rinsed. Nothing came off. I sprayed it with Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and left to start cleaning the grid that leads to the lint tray one hole at a time. Lots came out. I returned to the bathroom after about 15 minutes and not a bit of lint in sight! Not even in the sink! That tells me this is a fugus or mold of somekind. I rinsed the tray and sprayed it again and went back to finish the vent. Then I washed the entire drum and door of the dryer with vinegar and put an old cotton shirt in to dry so that it might collect anything I missed. I cleaned it again this morning and am washing

again. Note: Is this what happened in the beginning? Did I purchase something that infected my dryer. Yes, the 5 bird's nest were in the outtake vent, but what if the introduction of this mold/fungus coxed the mites etc, to enter into the dryer and thus me? Another observation.........Remember I said there seemed to be a 3 month rhythm? Well, I can't tell if it is 10 weeks or 14 weeks, somewhere in there stuff surfaces and then tries to set up a lesion on my skin. Hard to tell the exact time as once it hits the surface, a lump could take weeks to open and then weeks before healing starts. Never the less, 3 months is about average for panic activity to occur. I looked up how long it takes the dermas to reach the surface.It takes 48 days for a dermas cell to become an epidermas cell. That is roughly 7 weeks. I now realize how these encapsulated fungus balls get to the surface. Like popcorn, the rising cells randomly push the capsuls. I had

been on the Intraconazole for 10 weeks when a new crop of capsules hit the surface. Difference is, they are tiny now, don't cause lesions, and heal away in about a week or two. I feel less and less of them under my skin, so I expect the medicine is stopping the production as the remaining offenders are still exiting my skin. I can tell you exactly where a small slit is going to appear in the future as the offender exits. This being the case, the very long time one must be on internals is explained. Fungus/mold encased is protected from medication until hitting the surface. Then surface remedys help in the fight. What do you folks think?Love and light,

[Guest guest]

We all live in different time zones, so a Friday night call would be good, only whose time? I can stay up late on that night. I'm on Eastern standard time.

Love and light,

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 5:00 PMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

- conference calls are free.

Anyone else interested in doing a group call?

Wow, that Arm and Hammer Super Soda Wash in the bath is a powerful detoxifier!

Aandraya

On Oct 24, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Aandraya,

Tuesday through Wednesday and Friday of this week are good for me, any time during those days. Have you set one of these up before? Is it something we pay for? Hours for me would be 9-6 pm Pacific time, but I could do it in the evenings too after dinner, say 7 - 9 pm too if that works.

From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:38:13 PMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

-

We get a number we all call into, set a time for the call, they give you an access code. When would be a good time for you?

On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:52 PM, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

I would be interested Aandraya! How do we do it?

Sent from my iPod

On Oct 23, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

-I'd like to set up a conference call with you, , Aggi and whoever else try and answer some questions we all have around this stuff. You have a lot documented. Would you be interested in doing that?AandrayaOn Oct 23, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:>

[Guest guest]

Maybe if you do buy from Walmart (I still do) maybe ironing everything with a hot iron with steam first? Just a thought. Might kill most everything with heat.From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:39:56 PMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

Kajay,

I guess about 8 lint bugs fell to the floor. I assume they were dead from the Lysol soak. I wasn't thrilled at seeing them again. So important to wash new clothing first. Wow. Take me back to Kansus, Toto.

Love and light,

From: Kajay109 <kajay109@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:50 AMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

There are two things that our critters have that we can identify positively to distinguish them from lint:

They BITE. Lint does not bite. It might sting due if it causes an allergic or chemical reaction in the skin, but it does not - EVER - leave bloody holes in our skin.

I can, under a 60X microscope (all I use) SEE their little black legs amongst the beigey-grayish fibers, quite often identify at least one PAIR of legs. Lint has no legs. Also, those legs often clearly end in insect feet, and I can often also see what are clearly cilia on the legs.

kajay

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:20 AMSubject: Lint Bugs!

I want to share a most alarming experience. When I was in Lakeland, Florida, I went shopping at the local Walmart and bought 6 warm shirts. Two were waffle shirts, two were polo shirts, and two were sweat shirts that I did not realize had a fleese lining. I put all of them in the washer with Lysol and was very surprised when I opened the washer when finished. About 2 cups of lint covered everything! I suspected the fleese lined sweatshirts, so I took them out and put them in the dryer to see if the lint would come off while I rewashed the others. When dry, I put them in a trash bag, as they were still covered, and dried the other shirts. I took one out at the end of the cycle and took a lint roller to it. I was seeing what I had seen almost two years ago when this all started.....towers of lint in white but looking gray when removed by the lint roller. Those 1/2 inch size gray/blue with some other colored fibers lint bugs that Aandraya or Kajay

identified kept falling to the floor from the clothing as I inspected them. The lint was tenacious as it seemed to cling strongly to the material. I turned everything inside out after rolling and was aghaust to see the inside covered as badly. I threw everything in the garbage. I took the lint trap, which was covered in gray towers, and set it in the bathroom sink and rinsed. Nothing came off. I sprayed it with Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and left to start cleaning the grid that leads to the lint tray one hole at a time. Lots came out. I returned to the bathroom after about 15 minutes and not a bit of lint in sight! Not even in the sink! That tells me this is a fugus or mold of somekind. I rinsed the tray and sprayed it again and went back to finish the vent. Then I washed the entire drum and door of the dryer with vinegar and put an old cotton shirt in to dry so that it might collect anything I missed. I cleaned it again this morning and am washing

again. Note: Is this what happened in the beginning? Did I purchase something that infected my dryer. Yes, the 5 bird's nest were in the outtake vent, but what if the introduction of this mold/fungus coxed the mites etc, to enter into the dryer and thus me? Another observation.........Remember I said there seemed to be a 3 month rhythm? Well, I can't tell if it is 10 weeks or 14 weeks, somewhere in there stuff surfaces and then tries to set up a lesion on my skin. Hard to tell the exact time as once it hits the surface, a lump could take weeks to open and then weeks before healing starts. Never the less, 3 months is about average for panic activity to occur. I looked up how long it takes the dermas to reach the surface.It takes 48 days for a dermas cell to become an epidermas cell. That is roughly 7 weeks. I now realize how these encapsulated fungus balls get to the surface. Like popcorn, the rising cells randomly push the capsuls. I had

been on the Intraconazole for 10 weeks when a new crop of capsules hit the surface. Difference is, they are tiny now, don't cause lesions, and heal away in about a week or two. I feel less and less of them under my skin, so I expect the medicine is stopping the production as the remaining offenders are still exiting my skin. I can tell you exactly where a small slit is going to appear in the future as the offender exits. This being the case, the very long time one must be on internals is explained. Fungus/mold encased is protected from medication until hitting the surface. Then surface remedys help in the fight. What do you folks think?Love and light,

[Guest guest]

For some chronic fungal infections the med insert said 200 mg once a day sometimes it was for over a year-can't remember how many months. I did 4 months and switched to Voriconazole, not sure yet if it's more or less effective or the same. In my mom's dryer lint trap they got stuck too, she forced them out with a pin but it was hard. Some are still there. AandrayaOn Oct 24, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

Hi Andraya,

Yes. I think it was a mold or fungus because how else would the lint towers on the lint trap disappear? I tried to rinse it away and nothing happened. I sprayed it with the Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and it decinerates into nothing? Not even evidence of it in the sink? Blimy, that scared me!

I'm taking 100 mg of Intraconazole a day. My doctor wants me to stay on it 2 more months and then stop to see if it is gone. Not looking forward to that.

Can't beat those Super Soda Bathes:)

Love and light,

M

<aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:24 PMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

-

That is my worst nightmare, to have something reinfect my washer/dryer clothes or wherever from which the live lint balls first appeared. Sounds like you got it though, I would have panicked. So you think it is fungus? Not tiny bugs that were in the shirts you bought? Because they seemed to be alive...they attach tightly to anything. I'm in a fog right now and need to reread your post later, I'm confused as to the life cycle of these organisms. I've used the Super Soda wash twice now in my bath and you're right, it does pull stuff out of the skin. Glad you suggested that. I'm going to start using it daily. How much Itraconazole are you taking? Consider adding Doxycycline and Levaquin to your protocol.

Keep your hypothesis coming as to what we are dealing with, I'd like to get a discussion going around these infections

Aandraya

On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

I want to share a most alarming experience. When I was in Lakeland, Florida, I went shopping at the local Walmart and bought 6 warm shirts. Two were waffle shirts, two were polo shirts, and two were sweat shirts that I did not realize had a fleese lining. I put all of them in the washer with Lysol and was very surprised when I opened the washer when finished. About 2 cups of lint covered everything! I suspected the fleese lined sweatshirts, so I took them out and put them in the dryer to see if the lint would come off while I rewashed the others. When dry, I put them in a trash bag, as they were still covered, and dried the other shirts. I took one out at the end of the cycle and took a lint roller to it. I was seeing what I had seen almost two years ago when this all started.....towers of lint in white but looking gray when removed by the lint roller. Those 1/2 inch size gray/blue with some other colored fibers lint bugs that Aandraya or Kajay

identified kept falling to the floor from the clothing as I inspected them. The lint was tenacious as it seemed to cling strongly to the material. I turned everything inside out after rolling and was aghaust to see the inside covered as badly. I threw everything in the garbage. I took the lint trap, which was covered in gray towers, and set it in the bathroom sink and rinsed. Nothing came off. I sprayed it with Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and left to start cleaning the grid that leads to the lint tray one hole at a time. Lots came out. I returned to the bathroom after about 15 minutes and not a bit of lint in sight! Not even in the sink! That tells me this is a fugus or mold of somekind. I rinsed the tray and sprayed it again and went back to finish the vent. Then I washed the entire drum and door of the dryer with vinegar and put an old cotton shirt in to dry so that it might collect anything I missed. I cleaned it again this morning and am washing

again. Note: Is this what happened in the beginning? Did I purchase something that infected my dryer. Yes, the 5 bird's nest were in the outtake vent, but what if the introduction of this mold/fungus coxed the mites etc, to enter into the dryer and thus me? Another observation.........Remember I said there seemed to be a 3 month rhythm? Well, I can't tell if it is 10 weeks or 14 weeks, somewhere in there stuff surfaces and then tries to set up a lesion on my skin. Hard to tell the exact time as once it hits the surface, a lump could take weeks to open and then weeks before healing starts. Never the less, 3 months is about average for panic activity to occur. I looked up how long it takes the dermas to reach the surface.It takes 48 days for a dermas cell to become an epidermas cell. That is roughly 7 weeks. I now realize how these encapsulated fungus balls get to the surface. Like popcorn, the rising cells randomly push the capsuls. I had

been on the Intraconazole for 10 weeks when a new crop of capsules hit the surface. Difference is, they are tiny now, don't cause lesions, and heal away in about a week or two. I feel less and less of them under my skin, so I expect the medicine is stopping the production as the remaining offenders are still exiting my skin. I can tell you exactly where a small slit is going to appear in the future as the offender exits. This being the case, the very long time one must be on internals is explained. Fungus/mold encased is protected from medication until hitting the surface. Then surface remedys help in the fight. What do you folks think?Love and light,

[Guest guest]

That's great to find a doctor like that, and rare. Aandraya On Oct 24, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

No, Andraya, I did not get a test. I do know, however, that he will move the Lyme route if I continue to have any trouble cause he takes great pride in his treatments and getting people well. The fact that I mentioned it I feel is enough of a seed to get his thinking to slide in that direction if need be. Any other doctor would have taken offense, but my doctor is always listening carefully and his mind keeps turning these things over.

Love and light,

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Lint Bugs!

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On what basis did he say that? Did you get the Igenix test?

Aandraya

On Oct 23, 2011, at 11:22 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

Hi Marie,

My Dr. is a LLD and he doesn't think I match the symptoms for Lyme. He has me on Acyclovir and Intraconazole, and I put myself on Bactrim. I've been coming along beautifully since he started to treat me. I was glad to read your post that Bactrim also works for some funguses. I did put the idea of Lyme to him, so I know he is watching for such things. How are you doing Marie?

Love and light,

From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:58 AMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

Lyme disease runs in cycles? Have you considered lyme? I will not buy anything 100% cotton anymore. http://members.shaw.ca/rolfwitzsche/canada/morgellons_fibre_disease.htmlhttp://birdmites.org/forum.html--- In bird mites , " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:>> I want to share a most alarming experience. When I was in Lakeland, Florida, I went shopping at the local Walmart and bought 6 warm shirts. Two were waffle shirts, two were polo shirts, and two were sweat shirts that I did not realize had a fleese lining. I put all of them in the washer with Lysol and was very surprised when I opened the washer when finished. About 2 cups of lint covered everything! I suspected the fleese lined sweatshirts, so I took them out and put them in the dryer to see if the lint would

come off while I rewashed the others. When dry, I put them in a trash bag, as they were still covered, and dried the other shirts. I took one out at the end of the cycle and took a lint roller to it. I was seeing what I had seen almost two years ago when this all started.....towers of lint in white but looking gray when removed by the lint roller. Those 1/2 inch size gray/blue with some other colored fibers lint bugs that Aandraya or Kajay identified kept falling to the floor from the clothing as I inspected them. The lint was tenacious as it seemed to cling strongly to the material. I turned everything inside out after rolling and was aghaust to see the inside covered as badly. I threw everything in the garbage. I took the lint trap, which was covered in gray towers, and set it in the bathroom sink and rinsed. Nothing came off. I sprayed it with Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and left to start cleaning the grid that leads to the lint tray one hole at a

time. Lots came out. I returned to the bathroom after about 15 minutes and not a bit of lint in sight! Not even in the sink! That tells me this is a fugus or mold of somekind. I rinsed the tray and sprayed it again and went back to finish the vent. Then I washed the entire drum and door of the dryer with vinegar and put an old cotton shirt in to dry so that it might collect anything I missed. I cleaned it again this morning and am washing again. Note: Is this what happened in the beginning? Did I purchase something that infected my dryer. Yes, the 5 bird's nest were in the outtake vent, but what if the introduction of this mold/fungus coxed the mites etc, to enter into the dryer and thus me? > Another observation.........> Remember I said there seemed to be a 3 month rhythm? Well, I can't tell if it is 10 weeks or 14 weeks, somewhere in there stuff surfaces and then tries to set up a lesion on my skin. Hard to tell the exact time as once

it hits the surface, a lump could take weeks to open and then weeks before healing starts. Never the less, 3 months is about average for panic activity to occur. I looked up how long it takes the dermas to reach the surface.> It takes 48 days for a dermas cell to become an epidermas cell. That is roughly 7 weeks. I now realize how these encapsulated fungus balls get to the surface. Like popcorn, the rising cells randomly push the capsuls. I had been on the Intraconazole for 10 weeks when a new crop of capsules hit the surface. Difference is, they are tiny now, don't cause lesions, and heal away in about a week or two. I feel less and less of them under my skin, so I expect the medicine is stopping the production as the remaining offenders are still exiting my skin. I can tell you exactly where a small slit is going to appear in the future as the offender exits. This being the case, the very long time one must be on internals is explained.

Fungus/mold encased is protected from medication until hitting the surface. Then surface remedys help in the fight. What do you folks think?> Love and light,> >

[Guest guest]

Hi, Aandraya!It would have been great joining, but I can´t afford the phone call over to the USA.

Hope you have a great time!Cecilia

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 11:00 PMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

- conference calls are free.

Anyone else interested in doing a group call?

Wow, that Arm and Hammer Super Soda Wash in the bath is a powerful detoxifier!

Aandraya

On Oct 24, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Aandraya,

Tuesday through Wednesday and Friday of this week are good for me, any time during those days. Have you set one of these up before? Is it something we pay for? Hours for me would be 9-6 pm Pacific time, but I could do it in the evenings too after dinner, say 7 - 9 pm too if that works.

From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:38:13 PMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

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We get a number we all call into, set a time for the call, they give you an access code. When would be a good time for you?

On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:52 PM, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

I would be interested Aandraya! How do we do it?

Sent from my iPod

On Oct 23, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

-I'd like to set up a conference call with you, , Aggi and whoever else try and answer some questions we all have around this stuff. You have a lot documented. Would you be interested in doing that?AandrayaOn Oct 23, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:>

[Guest guest]

Well, we can relay anyideas and breakthroughs we have in the conversation here on the board.AandrayaOn Oct 25, 2011, at 3:07 AM, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Aandraya!It would have been great joining, but I can´t afford the phone call over to the USA.

Hope you have a great time!Cecilia

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 11:00 PMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

- conference calls are free.

Anyone else interested in doing a group call?

Wow, that Arm and Hammer Super Soda Wash in the bath is a powerful detoxifier!

Aandraya

On Oct 24, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Aandraya,

Tuesday through Wednesday and Friday of this week are good for me, any time during those days. Have you set one of these up before? Is it something we pay for? Hours for me would be 9-6 pm Pacific time, but I could do it in the evenings too after dinner, say 7 - 9 pm too if that works.

From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:38:13 PMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

-

We get a number we all call into, set a time for the call, they give you an access code. When would be a good time for you?

On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:52 PM, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

I would be interested Aandraya! How do we do it?

Sent from my iPod

On Oct 23, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

-I'd like to set up a conference call with you, , Aggi and whoever else try and answer some questions we all have around this stuff. You have a lot documented. Would you be interested in doing that?AandrayaOn Oct 23, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:>

[Guest guest]

Aandraya,

I can tell if I still have the fungus by so many signs. If I feel I still have it, I'll not stop with or without the doctor. I will listen to my inner voice on the matter. It has helped me discover so much to date.

Spray that lint trap with Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and see what happens.

Love and light,

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:44 PMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

For some chronic fungal infections the med insert said 200 mg once a day sometimes it was for over a year-can't remember how many months. I did 4 months and switched to Voriconazole, not sure yet if it's more or less effective or the same.

In my mom's dryer lint trap they got stuck too, she forced them out with a pin but it was hard. Some are still there.

Aandraya

On Oct 24, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

Hi Andraya,

Yes. I think it was a mold or fungus because how else would the lint towers on the lint trap disappear? I tried to rinse it away and nothing happened. I sprayed it with the Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and it decinerates into nothing? Not even evidence of it in the sink? Blimy, that scared me!

I'm taking 100 mg of Intraconazole a day. My doctor wants me to stay on it 2 more months and then stop to see if it is gone. Not looking forward to that.

Can't beat those Super Soda Bathes:)

Love and light,

M

<aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:24 PMSubject: Re: Lint Bugs!

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That is my worst nightmare, to have something reinfect my washer/dryer clothes or wherever from which the live lint balls first appeared. Sounds like you got it though, I would have panicked. So you think it is fungus? Not tiny bugs that were in the shirts you bought? Because they seemed to be alive...they attach tightly to anything. I'm in a fog right now and need to reread your post later, I'm confused as to the life cycle of these organisms. I've used the Super Soda wash twice now in my bath and you're right, it does pull stuff out of the skin. Glad you suggested that. I'm going to start using it daily. How much Itraconazole are you taking? Consider adding Doxycycline and Levaquin to your protocol.

Keep your hypothesis coming as to what we are dealing with, I'd like to get a discussion going around these infections

Aandraya

On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

I want to share a most alarming experience. When I was in Lakeland, Florida, I went shopping at the local Walmart and bought 6 warm shirts. Two were waffle shirts, two were polo shirts, and two were sweat shirts that I did not realize had a fleese lining. I put all of them in the washer with Lysol and was very surprised when I opened the washer when finished. About 2 cups of lint covered everything! I suspected the fleese lined sweatshirts, so I took them out and put them in the dryer to see if the lint would come off while I rewashed the others. When dry, I put them in a trash bag, as they were still covered, and dried the other shirts. I took one out at the end of the cycle and took a lint roller to it. I was seeing what I had seen almost two years ago when this all started.....towers of lint in white but looking gray when removed by the lint roller. Those 1/2 inch size gray/blue with some other colored fibers lint bugs that Aandraya or Kajay

identified kept falling to the floor from the clothing as I inspected them. The lint was tenacious as it seemed to cling strongly to the material. I turned everything inside out after rolling and was aghaust to see the inside covered as badly. I threw everything in the garbage. I took the lint trap, which was covered in gray towers, and set it in the bathroom sink and rinsed. Nothing came off. I sprayed it with Tilex Mold and Mildew cleaner and left to start cleaning the grid that leads to the lint tray one hole at a time. Lots came out. I returned to the bathroom after about 15 minutes and not a bit of lint in sight! Not even in the sink! That tells me this is a fugus or mold of somekind. I rinsed the tray and sprayed it again and went back to finish the vent. Then I washed the entire drum and door of the dryer with vinegar and put an old cotton shirt in to dry so that it might collect anything I missed. I cleaned it again this morning and am washing

again. Note: Is this what happened in the beginning? Did I purchase something that infected my dryer. Yes, the 5 bird's nest were in the outtake vent, but what if the introduction of this mold/fungus coxed the mites etc, to enter into the dryer and thus me? Another observation.........Remember I said there seemed to be a 3 month rhythm? Well, I can't tell if it is 10 weeks or 14 weeks, somewhere in there stuff surfaces and then tries to set up a lesion on my skin. Hard to tell the exact time as once it hits the surface, a lump could take weeks to open and then weeks before healing starts. Never the less, 3 months is about average for panic activity to occur. I looked up how long it takes the dermas to reach the surface.It takes 48 days for a dermas cell to become an epidermas cell. That is roughly 7 weeks. I now realize how these encapsulated fungus balls get to the surface. Like popcorn, the rising cells randomly push the capsuls. I had

been on the Intraconazole for 10 weeks when a new crop of capsules hit the surface. Difference is, they are tiny now, don't cause lesions, and heal away in about a week or two. I feel less and less of them under my skin, so I expect the medicine is stopping the production as the remaining offenders are still exiting my skin. I can tell you exactly where a small slit is going to appear in the future as the offender exits. This being the case, the very long time one must be on internals is explained. Fungus/mold encased is protected from medication until hitting the surface. Then surface remedys help in the fight. What do you folks think?Love and light,