Re: Aggi

October 13, 2011

Hi Aggi,I'm so glad to hear things are going so well for you. Does your doctor prescribe the Iltraconozole or do you buy it online? I am trying to get my mother to go on an anti-fungal diet. Did you find the anti fungal diet, which you used, online?

All the best,Krys

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> " bird mites " <bird mites >

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys! Hi Guys, Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your " magic bullet " , keep crossing my fingers !! My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

October 13, 2011

Hello Krys,

I ordered the Itraconazole online (just being sick of incompetent doctor's). It is quite expensive, but worth every single penny !

The diet was recommended by . She just looked it all up on the I-net and I followed. It did help to some extend, but starting the Itraconazole was a complete different story again ! I am only taking 1 cap of 100mg per day. I am not taking any other supplements or medicines at this point.

Good luck to your mum !

Von: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 15:19 Donnerstag, 13.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: Aggi

Hi Aggi,

I'm so glad to hear things are going so well for you. Does your doctor prescribe the Iltraconozole or do you buy it online? I am trying to get my mother to go on an anti-fungal diet. Did you find the anti fungal diet, which you used, online?

All the best,

Krys

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!Hi Guys,Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some

occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard

Kipling

October 13, 2011

Thanks Aggi,While my mother's new doctors are nice, I doubt they'll give her anti fungal drugs just because I say so & proving it would be a heck of a fuss, (Oh, how I miss my Welsh doctors & vets who were happy to discuss medicines & treatment).

Do you have a link to the site where you purchase the Itraconozole? I think have managed to persuade my mother that she needs to do more than constantly spray & clean. If it's a tad expensive it will be worth it if it helps.

Hope things remain on the up & up for you Aggi; please keep us posted.Take care,KrysOn 13 October 2011 11:33, Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Hello Krys,

I ordered the Itraconazole online (just being sick of incompetent doctor's). It is quite expensive, but worth every single penny !

The diet was recommended by . She just looked it all up on the I-net and I followed. It did help to some extend, but starting the Itraconazole was a complete different story again ! I am only taking 1 cap of 100mg per day. I am not taking any other supplements or medicines at this point.

Good luck to your mum !

Von: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>An: bird mites

Gesendet: 15:19 Donnerstag, 13.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: Aggi

Hi Aggi,

I'm so glad to hear things are going so well for you. Does your doctor prescribe the Iltraconozole or do you buy it online? I am trying to get my mother to go on an anti-fungal diet. Did you find the anti fungal diet, which you used, online?

All the best,

Krys

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> " bird mites " <bird mites >

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!Hi Guys,Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some

occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your " magic bullet " , keep crossing my fingers !!My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard

Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

October 13, 2011

Give it a try with the doctors prescribing itraconazole. Sometimes I am shocked and pleasantly surprised how helpful some can be. AandrayaOn Oct 13, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Krys Brennand wrote: Thanks Aggi,While my mother's new doctors are nice, I doubt they'll give her anti fungal drugs just because I say so & proving it would be a heck of a fuss, (Oh, how I miss my Welsh doctors & vets who were happy to discuss medicines & treatment). Do you have a link to the site where you purchase the Itraconozole? I think have managed to persuade my mother that she needs to do more than constantly spray & clean. If it's a tad expensive it will be worth it if it helps. Hope things remain on the up & up for you Aggi; please keep us posted.Take care,KrysOn 13 October 2011 11:33, Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> wrote: Hello Krys, I ordered the Itraconazole online (just being sick of incompetent doctor's). It is quite expensive, but worth every single penny ! The diet was recommended by . She just looked it all up on the I-net and I followed. It did help to some extend, but starting the Itraconazole was a complete different story again ! I am only taking 1 cap of 100mg per day. I am not taking any other supplements or medicines at this point. Good luck to your mum ! Von: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 15:19 Donnerstag, 13.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: Aggi Hi Aggi, I'm so glad to hear things are going so well for you. Does your doctor prescribe the Iltraconozole or do you buy it online? I am trying to get my mother to go on an anti-fungal diet. Did you find the anti fungal diet, which you used, online? All the best, Krys From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!Hi Guys,Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals. I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best. P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who. Rudyard Kipling -- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who. Rudyard Kipling

October 13, 2011

FreedomPharmacy.com Kryes. They run sales from time to time, but I've found that only present customers can get the discount.

Love and light,

Hello Krys,

I ordered the Itraconazole online (just being sick of incompetent doctor's). It is quite expensive, but worth every single penny !

The diet was recommended by . She just looked it all up on the I-net and I followed. It did help to some extend, but starting the Itraconazole was a complete different story again ! I am only taking 1 cap of 100mg per day. I am not taking any other supplements or medicines at this point.

Good luck to your mum !

Von: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 15:19 Donnerstag, 13.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: Aggi

Hi Aggi,

I'm so glad to hear things are going so well for you. Does your doctor prescribe the Iltraconozole or do you buy it online? I am trying to get my mother to go on an anti-fungal diet. Did you find the anti fungal diet, which you used, online?

All the best,

Krys

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!Hi Guys,Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep

taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their

names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

October 13, 2011

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

October 14, 2011

No, we didnÂ´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking. Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

October 14, 2011

Absolutely it could be. I'd get them tested.AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 3:04 AM, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

No, we didnÂ´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking. Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

October 14, 2011

I just wish I knew the answer to that Cecilia. I think this stuff on your daughter is not just external, but internal as well, but I don't know the source of it. I pray that she and your family do not have Lyme... just wondering myself. There was a study recently that said that even some dust mites can carry Bartonella, but I had Lyme Disease pre-existing birdmites. It may be that when we got the infestation that we got the Bartonella later because my symptoms changed after exposure to the mites. (I am just speculating here)... so it is possible to have just Bartonella without the Lyme. Cats carry Bartonella, but I've also heard that some "bacteria and fungi" are jumping species. Maybe Krys can answer why they are jumping species, or maybe they have always done that to some extent.From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:04:47 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

No, we didnÂ´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking. Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

October 14, 2011

If you do decide to get them tested it should be a Western Blot, not test. You would need to find out what kind of test the doctor does... the are not sensitive enough to really tell the whole picture. If they do both Western Blot and that is fine.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 4:36:02 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Absolutely it could be. I'd get them tested.AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 3:04 AM, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

No, we didnÂ´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking. Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

October 14, 2011

Good speculation, . Cecilia- I would get tested for Lyme and have a Lyme literate doctor interpret the results and get a copy of the results to share with others who know what the different bands mean.AandrayOn Oct 14, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I just wish I knew the answer to that Cecilia. I think this stuff on your daughter is not just external, but internal as well, but I don't know the source of it. I pray that she and your family do not have Lyme... just wondering myself. There was a study recently that said that even some dust mites can carry Bartonella, but I had Lyme Disease pre-existing birdmites. It may be that when we got the infestation that we got the Bartonella later because my symptoms changed after exposure to the mites. (I am just speculating here)... so it is possible to have just Bartonella without the Lyme. Cats carry Bartonella, but I've also heard that some "bacteria and fungi" are jumping species. Maybe Krys can answer why they are jumping species, or maybe they have always done that to some extent.From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:04:47 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

No, we didnÂ´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking. Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

October 14, 2011

Agreed. is worthless, and different labs do different versions of the Western Blot. There are labs in Germany that know what they're doing. Sweden- not so much. By the way my great-grandparents are from Sweden!AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

If you do decide to get them tested it should be a Western Blot, not test. You would need to find out what kind of test the doctor does... the are not sensitive enough to really tell the whole picture. If they do both Western Blot and that is fine.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 4:36:02 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Absolutely it could be. I'd get them tested.AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 3:04 AM, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

No, we didnÂ´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking. Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

October 14, 2011

I think I would get tested Cecilia... I know, who do you go to and how much money would it be to get your daughter and you tested... problems again!!. Esp. since you lost so much financially with your move. Grrrrrrrr..... but in my experience this Lyme does not go away, maybe it does if the immune system is really healthy, I don't know. I think my older sister got bit when she was about 17 years old. She/We worked in the fields during the summers, picking beans, or fruit to help our mom financially. We were really poor. Sister Lillian got sick initially when 17 years old and she has for the last 20 years severe Fibro and CFS now. I suspect Lyme however and her life is reduced to being an almost completely in her bed and sick all the time, in pain, terrible pain. I think the Lyme can go into a remission during certain periods of our life, but later when other things are attacking our system, it activates. So now I'm trying to get her some treatment in Oregon where they have such terrible trouble with getting treatment because of politics. I spoke to her yesterday and she may be able to go to a naturopath in Oregon who does the right testing because the physicians (MD's) are tormented by the government and threatened with loss of license if they treat Lyme patients. For a progressive state, they are very unprogressive in terms of health. It is fairly typical in so many places, including Canada I understand. I don't know about Sweden. Anyway, it is something to consider sister (we're all related here you know)... once we've been through this, we're all part of the same family.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:45:48 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Good speculation, . Cecilia- I would get tested for Lyme and have a Lyme literate doctor interpret the results and get a copy of the results to share with others who know what the different bands mean.AandrayOn Oct 14, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I just wish I knew the answer to that Cecilia. I think this stuff on your daughter is not just external, but internal as well, but I don't know the source of it. I pray that she and your family do not have Lyme... just wondering myself. There was a study recently that said that even some dust mites can carry Bartonella, but I had Lyme Disease pre-existing birdmites. It may be that when we got the infestation that we got the Bartonella later because my symptoms changed after exposure to the mites. (I am just speculating here)... so it is possible to have just Bartonella without the Lyme. Cats carry Bartonella, but I've also heard that some "bacteria and fungi" are jumping species. Maybe Krys can answer why they are jumping species, or maybe they have always done that to some extent.From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:04:47 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

No, we didnÂ´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking. Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

October 14, 2011

-Glad she found a doctor! It does sound like she has Lyme and can be treated. Especially since you know so much and are dealing with it... Dr. Klinghardt is in Seattle, also the NP- nna Rainenille who worked with him is supposed to be excellent.AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I think I would get tested Cecilia... I know, who do you go to and how much money would it be to get your daughter and you tested... problems again!!. Esp. since you lost so much financially with your move. Grrrrrrrr..... but in my experience this Lyme does not go away, maybe it does if the immune system is really healthy, I don't know. I think my older sister got bit when she was about 17 years old. She/We worked in the fields during the summers, picking beans, or fruit to help our mom financially. We were really poor. Sister Lillian got sick initially when 17 years old and she has for the last 20 years severe Fibro and CFS now. I suspect Lyme however and her life is reduced to being an almost completely in her bed and sick all the time, in pain, terrible pain. I think the Lyme can go into a remission during certain periods of our life, but later when other things are attacking our system, it activates. So now I'm trying to get her some treatment in Oregon where they have such terrible trouble with getting treatment because of politics. I spoke to her yesterday and she may be able to go to a naturopath in Oregon who does the right testing because the physicians (MD's) are tormented by the government and threatened with loss of license if they treat Lyme patients. For a progressive state, they are very unprogressive in terms of health. It is fairly typical in so many places, including Canada I understand. I don't know about Sweden. Anyway, it is something to consider sister (we're all related here you know)... once we've been through this, we're all part of the same family.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:45:48 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Good speculation, . Cecilia- I would get tested for Lyme and have a Lyme literate doctor interpret the results and get a copy of the results to share with others who know what the different bands mean.AandrayOn Oct 14, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I just wish I knew the answer to that Cecilia. I think this stuff on your daughter is not just external, but internal as well, but I don't know the source of it. I pray that she and your family do not have Lyme... just wondering myself. There was a study recently that said that even some dust mites can carry Bartonella, but I had Lyme Disease pre-existing birdmites. It may be that when we got the infestation that we got the Bartonella later because my symptoms changed after exposure to the mites. (I am just speculating here)... so it is possible to have just Bartonella without the Lyme. Cats carry Bartonella, but I've also heard that some "bacteria and fungi" are jumping species. Maybe Krys can answer why they are jumping species, or maybe they have always done that to some extent.From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:04:47 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

No, we didnÂ´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking. Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

October 14, 2011

My sister is so sick and can hardly drive at 73 years old and has macular degeneration too. Her husband is blind in one eye and can't drive. My niece who lives nearby had a car accident a few years ago and will not drive on the highways anymore. Also, sister's husband is so cheap... he controls the money they have. He has always done that and she has been too ill almost all of her adult life to fight him. We visited them this summer in Oregon and believe me, he is cheap! He won't let her have a debit card. He gives her cash to buy groceries. She does not have access to a checkbook either. They live modestly and she has never over spent. There are so many hurdles, but I am sending her information packet in the mail today so she can make up her own mind, sending her Mapquest directions to get to 2 different doctors (naturopaths) who are ILADS trained and a 35 page article by Dr. Burrascano called Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease; Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and other Tick Borne Illnesses. There are only 2 naturopaths in Oregon that treat Lyme Disease. I spoke to one doctor yesterday. Because my sister has MediCare Igenex will not allow her to be tested with their kit without going through a MD. There is no MD in Oregon that would give approval for her to be tested by Igenex. Dr. Burrascano's article is available on the internet Cecilia if you are interested in it.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:16:42 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

-Glad she found a doctor! It does sound like she has Lyme and can be treated. Especially since you know so much and are dealing with it... Dr. Klinghardt is in Seattle, also the NP- nna Rainenille who worked with him is supposed to be excellent.AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I think I would get tested Cecilia... I know, who do you go to and how much money would it be to get your daughter and you tested... problems again!!. Esp. since you lost so much financially with your move. Grrrrrrrr..... but in my experience this Lyme does not go away, maybe it does if the immune system is really healthy, I don't know. I think my older sister got bit when she was about 17 years old. She/We worked in the fields during the summers, picking beans, or fruit to help our mom financially. We were really poor. Sister Lillian got sick initially when 17 years old and she has for the last 20 years severe Fibro and CFS now. I suspect Lyme however and her life is reduced to being an almost completely in her bed and sick all the time, in pain, terrible pain. I think the Lyme can go into a remission during certain periods of our life, but later when other things are attacking our system, it activates. So now I'm trying to get her some treatment in Oregon where they have such terrible trouble with getting treatment because of politics. I spoke to her yesterday and she may be able to go to a naturopath in Oregon who does the right testing because the physicians (MD's) are tormented by the government and threatened with loss of license if they treat Lyme patients. For a progressive state, they are very unprogressive in terms of health. It is fairly typical in so many places, including Canada I understand. I don't know about Sweden. Anyway, it is something to consider sister (we're all related here you know)... once we've been through this, we're all part of the same family.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:45:48 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Good speculation, . Cecilia- I would get tested for Lyme and have a Lyme literate doctor interpret the results and get a copy of the results to share with others who know what the different bands mean.AandrayOn Oct 14, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I just wish I knew the answer to that Cecilia. I think this stuff on your daughter is not just external, but internal as well, but I don't know the source of it. I pray that she and your family do not have Lyme... just wondering myself. There was a study recently that said that even some dust mites can carry Bartonella, but I had Lyme Disease pre-existing birdmites. It may be that when we got the infestation that we got the Bartonella later because my symptoms changed after exposure to the mites. (I am just speculating here)... so it is possible to have just Bartonella without the Lyme. Cats carry Bartonella, but I've also heard that some "bacteria and fungi" are jumping species. Maybe Krys can answer why they are jumping species, or maybe they have always done that to some extent.From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:04:47 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

No, we didnÂ´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking. Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

October 14, 2011

- great job with your sister, so inspiring! Don't let what happens in the future be dictated by what's gone on in the past.AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

My sister is so sick and can hardly drive at 73 years old and has macular degeneration too. Her husband is blind in one eye and can't drive. My niece who lives nearby had a car accident a few years ago and will not drive on the highways anymore. Also, sister's husband is so cheap... he controls the money they have. He has always done that and she has been too ill almost all of her adult life to fight him. We visited them this summer in Oregon and believe me, he is cheap! He won't let her have a debit card. He gives her cash to buy groceries. She does not have access to a checkbook either. They live modestly and she has never over spent. There are so many hurdles, but I am sending her information packet in the mail today so she can make up her own mind, sending her Mapquest directions to get to 2 different doctors (naturopaths) who are ILADS trained and a 35 page article by Dr. Burrascano called Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease; Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and other Tick Borne Illnesses. There are only 2 naturopaths in Oregon that treat Lyme Disease. I spoke to one doctor yesterday. Because my sister has MediCare Igenex will not allow her to be tested with their kit without going through a MD. There is no MD in Oregon that would give approval for her to be tested by Igenex. Dr. Burrascano's article is available on the internet Cecilia if you are interested in it.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:16:42 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

-Glad she found a doctor! It does sound like she has Lyme and can be treated. Especially since you know so much and are dealing with it... Dr. Klinghardt is in Seattle, also the NP- nna Rainenille who worked with him is supposed to be excellent.AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I think I would get tested Cecilia... I know, who do you go to and how much money would it be to get your daughter and you tested... problems again!!. Esp. since you lost so much financially with your move. Grrrrrrrr..... but in my experience this Lyme does not go away, maybe it does if the immune system is really healthy, I don't know. I think my older sister got bit when she was about 17 years old. She/We worked in the fields during the summers, picking beans, or fruit to help our mom financially. We were really poor. Sister Lillian got sick initially when 17 years old and she has for the last 20 years severe Fibro and CFS now. I suspect Lyme however and her life is reduced to being an almost completely in her bed and sick all the time, in pain, terrible pain. I think the Lyme can go into a remission during certain periods of our life, but later when other things are attacking our system, it activates. So now I'm trying to get her some treatment in Oregon where they have such terrible trouble with getting treatment because of politics. I spoke to her yesterday and she may be able to go to a naturopath in Oregon who does the right testing because the physicians (MD's) are tormented by the government and threatened with loss of license if they treat Lyme patients. For a progressive state, they are very unprogressive in terms of health. It is fairly typical in so many places, including Canada I understand. I don't know about Sweden. Anyway, it is something to consider sister (we're all related here you know)... once we've been through this, we're all part of the same family.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:45:48 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Good speculation, . Cecilia- I would get tested for Lyme and have a Lyme literate doctor interpret the results and get a copy of the results to share with others who know what the different bands mean.AandrayOn Oct 14, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I just wish I knew the answer to that Cecilia. I think this stuff on your daughter is not just external, but internal as well, but I don't know the source of it. I pray that she and your family do not have Lyme... just wondering myself. There was a study recently that said that even some dust mites can carry Bartonella, but I had Lyme Disease pre-existing birdmites. It may be that when we got the infestation that we got the Bartonella later because my symptoms changed after exposure to the mites. (I am just speculating here)... so it is possible to have just Bartonella without the Lyme. Cats carry Bartonella, but I've also heard that some "bacteria and fungi" are jumping species. Maybe Krys can answer why they are jumping species, or maybe they have always done that to some extent.From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:04:47 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

No, we didnÂ´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking. Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

October 14, 2011

Cecilia-The skin lesions are a presentation of a deeper internal chronic infection. AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I think I would get tested Cecilia... I know, who do you go to and how much money would it be to get your daughter and you tested... problems again!!. Esp. since you lost so much financially with your move. Grrrrrrrr..... but in my experience this Lyme does not go away, maybe it does if the immune system is really healthy, I don't know. I think my older sister got bit when she was about 17 years old. She/We worked in the fields during the summers, picking beans, or fruit to help our mom financially. We were really poor. Sister Lillian got sick initially when 17 years old and she has for the last 20 years severe Fibro and CFS now. I suspect Lyme however and her life is reduced to being an almost completely in her bed and sick all the time, in pain, terrible pain. I think the Lyme can go into a remission during certain periods of our life, but later when other things are attacking our system, it activates. So now I'm trying to get her some treatment in Oregon where they have such terrible trouble with getting treatment because of politics. I spoke to her yesterday and she may be able to go to a naturopath in Oregon who does the right testing because the physicians (MD's) are tormented by the government and threatened with loss of license if they treat Lyme patients. For a progressive state, they are very unprogressive in terms of health. It is fairly typical in so many places, including Canada I understand. I don't know about Sweden. Anyway, it is something to consider sister (we're all related here you know)... once we've been through this, we're all part of the same family.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:45:48 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Good speculation, . Cecilia- I would get tested for Lyme and have a Lyme literate doctor interpret the results and get a copy of the results to share with others who know what the different bands mean.AandrayOn Oct 14, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I just wish I knew the answer to that Cecilia. I think this stuff on your daughter is not just external, but internal as well, but I don't know the source of it. I pray that she and your family do not have Lyme... just wondering myself. There was a study recently that said that even some dust mites can carry Bartonella, but I had Lyme Disease pre-existing birdmites. It may be that when we got the infestation that we got the Bartonella later because my symptoms changed after exposure to the mites. (I am just speculating here)... so it is possible to have just Bartonella without the Lyme. Cats carry Bartonella, but I've also heard that some "bacteria and fungi" are jumping species. Maybe Krys can answer why they are jumping species, or maybe they have always done that to some extent.From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:04:47 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

No, we didnÂ´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking. Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

October 14, 2011

I don't think Lyme disease is at all common in Europe. I suggested Lyme to my mother & sounded as if she thought I'd gone mad. She said was rare in UK usually only found in the New Forest area (Hampshire in the south of England). I'd never heard of Lyme prior to living in USA; I didn't even know what ticks were when I first saw them.

I'm not sure that one can assume that everyone with these symptoms necessarily have Lyme. It may be a frequent co-infection but I'm pretty sure the fungal infections can be independent of Lyme.

On 14 October 2011 12:16, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

-Glad she found a doctor! It does sound like she has Lyme and can be treated. Especially since you know so much and are dealing with it... Dr. Klinghardt is in Seattle, also the NP- nna Rainenille who worked with him is supposed to be excellent.

AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I think I would get tested Cecilia... I know, who do you go to and how much money would it be to get your daughter and you tested... problems again!!. Esp. since you lost so much financially with your move. Grrrrrrrr..... but in my experience this Lyme does not go away, maybe it does if the immune system is really healthy, I don't know.

I think my older sister got bit when she was about 17 years old. She/We worked in the fields during the summers, picking beans, or fruit to help our mom financially. We were really poor. Sister Lillian got sick initially when 17 years old and she has for the last 20 years severe Fibro and CFS now. I suspect Lyme however and her life is reduced to being an almost completely in her bed and sick all the time, in pain, terrible pain. I think the Lyme can go into a remission during certain periods of our life, but later when other things are attacking our system, it activates. So now I'm trying to get her some treatment in Oregon where they have such terrible trouble with getting treatment because of politics. I spoke to her yesterday and she may be able to go to a naturopath in Oregon who does the right testing because the physicians (MD's) are tormented by the government and threatened with loss of license if they treat Lyme patients. For a progressive state, they are very unprogressive in terms of health. It is fairly typical in so many places, including Canada I understand. I don't know about Sweden.

Anyway, it is something to consider sister (we're all related here you know)... once we've been through this, we're all part of the same family.From: " Aandraya " <aandraya@...>

bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:45:48 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Good speculation, . Cecilia- I would get tested for Lyme and have a Lyme literate doctor interpret the results and get a copy of the results to share with others who know what the different bands mean.

AandrayOn Oct 14, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I just wish I knew the answer to that Cecilia. I think this stuff on your daughter is not just external, but internal as well, but I don't know the source of it. I pray that she and your family do not have Lyme... just wondering myself. There was a study recently that said that even some dust mites can carry Bartonella, but I had Lyme Disease pre-existing birdmites. It may be that when we got the infestation that we got the Bartonella later because my symptoms changed after exposure to the mites. (I am just speculating here)... so it is possible to have just Bartonella without the Lyme. Cats carry Bartonella, but I've also heard that some " bacteria and fungi " are jumping species. Maybe Krys can answer why they are jumping species, or maybe they have always done that to some extent.

From: " Cecilia Borg " <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites

Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:04:47 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

No, we didn´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking.

Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)

From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: " Cecilia Borg " <ceciliaborg@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year you´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesn´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so I´m really glad about it.

I don´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I haven´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> " bird mites " <bird mites >

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your " magic bullet " , keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: " bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear it´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldn´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if that´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PM

Subject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows, " for better or for worse " and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your " voices " - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: " Cecilia Borg " <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!I´m glad it´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she get´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is " on the track " helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but it´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasn´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we don´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldn´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay " in your brain " for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites

Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites

Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

October 14, 2011

Thanks Aandraya! We will see if she is willing to fight her way to get treatment, but it will be out of my hands then. God willing she will get help.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:43:40 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

- great job with your sister, so inspiring! Don't let what happens in the future be dictated by what's gone on in the past.AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

My sister is so sick and can hardly drive at 73 years old and has macular degeneration too. Her husband is blind in one eye and can't drive. My niece who lives nearby had a car accident a few years ago and will not drive on the highways anymore. Also, sister's husband is so cheap... he controls the money they have. He has always done that and she has been too ill almost all of her adult life to fight him. We visited them this summer in Oregon and believe me, he is cheap! He won't let her have a debit card. He gives her cash to buy groceries. She does not have access to a checkbook either. They live modestly and she has never over spent. There are so many hurdles, but I am sending her information packet in the mail today so she can make up her own mind, sending her Mapquest directions to get to 2 different doctors (naturopaths) who are ILADS trained and a 35 page article by Dr. Burrascano called Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease; Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and other Tick Borne Illnesses. There are only 2 naturopaths in Oregon that treat Lyme Disease. I spoke to one doctor yesterday. Because my sister has MediCare Igenex will not allow her to be tested with their kit without going through a MD. There is no MD in Oregon that would give approval for her to be tested by Igenex. Dr. Burrascano's article is available on the internet Cecilia if you are interested in it.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:16:42 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

-Glad she found a doctor! It does sound like she has Lyme and can be treated. Especially since you know so much and are dealing with it... Dr. Klinghardt is in Seattle, also the NP- nna Rainenille who worked with him is supposed to be excellent.AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I think I would get tested Cecilia... I know, who do you go to and how much money would it be to get your daughter and you tested... problems again!!. Esp. since you lost so much financially with your move. Grrrrrrrr..... but in my experience this Lyme does not go away, maybe it does if the immune system is really healthy, I don't know. I think my older sister got bit when she was about 17 years old. She/We worked in the fields during the summers, picking beans, or fruit to help our mom financially. We were really poor. Sister Lillian got sick initially when 17 years old and she has for the last 20 years severe Fibro and CFS now. I suspect Lyme however and her life is reduced to being an almost completely in her bed and sick all the time, in pain, terrible pain. I think the Lyme can go into a remission during certain periods of our life, but later when other things are attacking our system, it activates. So now I'm trying to get her some treatment in Oregon where they have such terrible trouble with getting treatment because of politics. I spoke to her yesterday and she may be able to go to a naturopath in Oregon who does the right testing because the physicians (MD's) are tormented by the government and threatened with loss of license if they treat Lyme patients. For a progressive state, they are very unprogressive in terms of health. It is fairly typical in so many places, including Canada I understand. I don't know about Sweden. Anyway, it is something to consider sister (we're all related here you know)... once we've been through this, we're all part of the same family.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:45:48 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Good speculation, . Cecilia- I would get tested for Lyme and have a Lyme literate doctor interpret the results and get a copy of the results to share with others who know what the different bands mean.AandrayOn Oct 14, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I just wish I knew the answer to that Cecilia. I think this stuff on your daughter is not just external, but internal as well, but I don't know the source of it. I pray that she and your family do not have Lyme... just wondering myself. There was a study recently that said that even some dust mites can carry Bartonella, but I had Lyme Disease pre-existing birdmites. It may be that when we got the infestation that we got the Bartonella later because my symptoms changed after exposure to the mites. (I am just speculating here)... so it is possible to have just Bartonella without the Lyme. Cats carry Bartonella, but I've also heard that some "bacteria and fungi" are jumping species. Maybe Krys can answer why they are jumping species, or maybe they have always done that to some extent.From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:04:47 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

No, we didnÂ´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking. Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

October 14, 2011

Lyme is actually very common in Europe. On Oct 14, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote:

I don't think Lyme disease is at all common in Europe. I suggested Lyme to my mother & sounded as if she thought I'd gone mad. She said was rare in UK usually only found in the New Forest area (Hampshire in the south of England). I'd never heard of Lyme prior to living in USA; I didn't even know what ticks were when I first saw them.

I'm not sure that one can assume that everyone with these symptoms necessarily have Lyme. It may be a frequent co-infection but I'm pretty sure the fungal infections can be independent of Lyme.

On 14 October 2011 12:16, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

-Glad she found a doctor! It does sound like she has Lyme and can be treated. Especially since you know so much and are dealing with it... Dr. Klinghardt is in Seattle, also the NP- nna Rainenille who worked with him is supposed to be excellent.

AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I think I would get tested Cecilia... I know, who do you go to and how much money would it be to get your daughter and you tested... problems again!!. Esp. since you lost so much financially with your move. Grrrrrrrr..... but in my experience this Lyme does not go away, maybe it does if the immune system is really healthy, I don't know.

I think my older sister got bit when she was about 17 years old. She/We worked in the fields during the summers, picking beans, or fruit to help our mom financially. We were really poor. Sister Lillian got sick initially when 17 years old and she has for the last 20 years severe Fibro and CFS now. I suspect Lyme however and her life is reduced to being an almost completely in her bed and sick all the time, in pain, terrible pain. I think the Lyme can go into a remission during certain periods of our life, but later when other things are attacking our system, it activates. So now I'm trying to get her some treatment in Oregon where they have such terrible trouble with getting treatment because of politics. I spoke to her yesterday and she may be able to go to a naturopath in Oregon who does the right testing because the physicians (MD's) are tormented by the government and threatened with loss of license if they treat Lyme patients. For a progressive state, they are very unprogressive in terms of health. It is fairly typical in so many places, including Canada I understand. I don't know about Sweden.

Anyway, it is something to consider sister (we're all related here you know)... once we've been through this, we're all part of the same family.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>

bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:45:48 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Good speculation, . Cecilia- I would get tested for Lyme and have a Lyme literate doctor interpret the results and get a copy of the results to share with others who know what the different bands mean.

AandrayOn Oct 14, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I just wish I knew the answer to that Cecilia. I think this stuff on your daughter is not just external, but internal as well, but I don't know the source of it. I pray that she and your family do not have Lyme... just wondering myself. There was a study recently that said that even some dust mites can carry Bartonella, but I had Lyme Disease pre-existing birdmites. It may be that when we got the infestation that we got the Bartonella later because my symptoms changed after exposure to the mites. (I am just speculating here)... so it is possible to have just Bartonella without the Lyme. Cats carry Bartonella, but I've also heard that some "bacteria and fungi" are jumping species. Maybe Krys can answer why they are jumping species, or maybe they have always done that to some extent.

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites

Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:04:47 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

No, we didnÂ´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking.

Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PM

Subject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites

Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites

Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

October 14, 2011

I read a study recently that tested many patients with ME in Britain for the right Lyme Disease testing... ME, myalgic encephalmyelitis is common in GB. In one study after the participants got the right testing for Lyme done, 80% of participants had Lyme Disease. I wish I could find the link. Someone sent it to me last week, but I may have inadvertently deleted it, although I wanted to keep it. If you don't hear about it doesn't mean that people don't have it. Hugs to you Krys and your mum! From: "Krys Brennand" <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:13:23 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

I don't think Lyme disease is at all common in Europe. I suggested Lyme to my mother & sounded as if she thought I'd gone mad. She said was rare in UK usually only found in the New Forest area (Hampshire in the south of England). I'd never heard of Lyme prior to living in USA; I didn't even know what ticks were when I first saw them.

I'm not sure that one can assume that everyone with these symptoms necessarily have Lyme. It may be a frequent co-infection but I'm pretty sure the fungal infections can be independent of Lyme.

On 14 October 2011 12:16, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

-Glad she found a doctor! It does sound like she has Lyme and can be treated. Especially since you know so much and are dealing with it... Dr. Klinghardt is in Seattle, also the NP- nna Rainenille who worked with him is supposed to be excellent.

AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I think I would get tested Cecilia... I know, who do you go to and how much money would it be to get your daughter and you tested... problems again!!. Esp. since you lost so much financially with your move. Grrrrrrrr..... but in my experience this Lyme does not go away, maybe it does if the immune system is really healthy, I don't know.

I think my older sister got bit when she was about 17 years old. She/We worked in the fields during the summers, picking beans, or fruit to help our mom financially. We were really poor. Sister Lillian got sick initially when 17 years old and she has for the last 20 years severe Fibro and CFS now. I suspect Lyme however and her life is reduced to being an almost completely in her bed and sick all the time, in pain, terrible pain. I think the Lyme can go into a remission during certain periods of our life, but later when other things are attacking our system, it activates. So now I'm trying to get her some treatment in Oregon where they have such terrible trouble with getting treatment because of politics. I spoke to her yesterday and she may be able to go to a naturopath in Oregon who does the right testing because the physicians (MD's) are tormented by the government and threatened with loss of license if they treat Lyme patients. For a progressive state, they are very unprogressive in terms of health. It is fairly typical in so many places, including Canada I understand. I don't know about Sweden.

Anyway, it is something to consider sister (we're all related here you know)... once we've been through this, we're all part of the same family.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>

bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:45:48 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Good speculation, . Cecilia- I would get tested for Lyme and have a Lyme literate doctor interpret the results and get a copy of the results to share with others who know what the different bands mean.

AandrayOn Oct 14, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I just wish I knew the answer to that Cecilia. I think this stuff on your daughter is not just external, but internal as well, but I don't know the source of it. I pray that she and your family do not have Lyme... just wondering myself. There was a study recently that said that even some dust mites can carry Bartonella, but I had Lyme Disease pre-existing birdmites. It may be that when we got the infestation that we got the Bartonella later because my symptoms changed after exposure to the mites. (I am just speculating here)... so it is possible to have just Bartonella without the Lyme. Cats carry Bartonella, but I've also heard that some "bacteria and fungi" are jumping species. Maybe Krys can answer why they are jumping species, or maybe they have always done that to some extent.

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites

Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:04:47 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

No, we didnÂ´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking.

Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PM

Subject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites

Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites

Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

October 14, 2011

Check out the Eurolyme group- it's everywhere in Europe, different borrelia than the U.S. version.AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote:

I don't think Lyme disease is at all common in Europe. I suggested Lyme to my mother & sounded as if she thought I'd gone mad. She said was rare in UK usually only found in the New Forest area (Hampshire in the south of England). I'd never heard of Lyme prior to living in USA; I didn't even know what ticks were when I first saw them.

I'm not sure that one can assume that everyone with these symptoms necessarily have Lyme. It may be a frequent co-infection but I'm pretty sure the fungal infections can be independent of Lyme.

On 14 October 2011 12:16, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

-Glad she found a doctor! It does sound like she has Lyme and can be treated. Especially since you know so much and are dealing with it... Dr. Klinghardt is in Seattle, also the NP- nna Rainenille who worked with him is supposed to be excellent.

AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I think I would get tested Cecilia... I know, who do you go to and how much money would it be to get your daughter and you tested... problems again!!. Esp. since you lost so much financially with your move. Grrrrrrrr..... but in my experience this Lyme does not go away, maybe it does if the immune system is really healthy, I don't know.

I think my older sister got bit when she was about 17 years old. She/We worked in the fields during the summers, picking beans, or fruit to help our mom financially. We were really poor. Sister Lillian got sick initially when 17 years old and she has for the last 20 years severe Fibro and CFS now. I suspect Lyme however and her life is reduced to being an almost completely in her bed and sick all the time, in pain, terrible pain. I think the Lyme can go into a remission during certain periods of our life, but later when other things are attacking our system, it activates. So now I'm trying to get her some treatment in Oregon where they have such terrible trouble with getting treatment because of politics. I spoke to her yesterday and she may be able to go to a naturopath in Oregon who does the right testing because the physicians (MD's) are tormented by the government and threatened with loss of license if they treat Lyme patients. For a progressive state, they are very unprogressive in terms of health. It is fairly typical in so many places, including Canada I understand. I don't know about Sweden.

Anyway, it is something to consider sister (we're all related here you know)... once we've been through this, we're all part of the same family.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>

bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:45:48 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Good speculation, . Cecilia- I would get tested for Lyme and have a Lyme literate doctor interpret the results and get a copy of the results to share with others who know what the different bands mean.

AandrayOn Oct 14, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I just wish I knew the answer to that Cecilia. I think this stuff on your daughter is not just external, but internal as well, but I don't know the source of it. I pray that she and your family do not have Lyme... just wondering myself. There was a study recently that said that even some dust mites can carry Bartonella, but I had Lyme Disease pre-existing birdmites. It may be that when we got the infestation that we got the Bartonella later because my symptoms changed after exposure to the mites. (I am just speculating here)... so it is possible to have just Bartonella without the Lyme. Cats carry Bartonella, but I've also heard that some "bacteria and fungi" are jumping species. Maybe Krys can answer why they are jumping species, or maybe they have always done that to some extent.

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites

Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:04:47 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

No, we didnÂ´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking.

Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PM

Subject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites

Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites

Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

October 14, 2011

Dr. Klinghardt treats Lyme in England, it's endemic there, same story as everywhere- doctors denying its' existence. AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I read a study recently that tested many patients with ME in Britain for the right Lyme Disease testing... ME, myalgic encephalmyelitis is common in GB. In one study after the participants got the right testing for Lyme done, 80% of participants had Lyme Disease. I wish I could find the link. Someone sent it to me last week, but I may have inadvertently deleted it, although I wanted to keep it. If you don't hear about it doesn't mean that people don't have it. Hugs to you Krys and your mum! From: "Krys Brennand" <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:13:23 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

I don't think Lyme disease is at all common in Europe. I suggested Lyme to my mother & sounded as if she thought I'd gone mad. She said was rare in UK usually only found in the New Forest area (Hampshire in the south of England). I'd never heard of Lyme prior to living in USA; I didn't even know what ticks were when I first saw them.

I'm not sure that one can assume that everyone with these symptoms necessarily have Lyme. It may be a frequent co-infection but I'm pretty sure the fungal infections can be independent of Lyme.

On 14 October 2011 12:16, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

-Glad she found a doctor! It does sound like she has Lyme and can be treated. Especially since you know so much and are dealing with it... Dr. Klinghardt is in Seattle, also the NP- nna Rainenille who worked with him is supposed to be excellent.

AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I think I would get tested Cecilia... I know, who do you go to and how much money would it be to get your daughter and you tested... problems again!!. Esp. since you lost so much financially with your move. Grrrrrrrr..... but in my experience this Lyme does not go away, maybe it does if the immune system is really healthy, I don't know.

I think my older sister got bit when she was about 17 years old. She/We worked in the fields during the summers, picking beans, or fruit to help our mom financially. We were really poor. Sister Lillian got sick initially when 17 years old and she has for the last 20 years severe Fibro and CFS now. I suspect Lyme however and her life is reduced to being an almost completely in her bed and sick all the time, in pain, terrible pain. I think the Lyme can go into a remission during certain periods of our life, but later when other things are attacking our system, it activates. So now I'm trying to get her some treatment in Oregon where they have such terrible trouble with getting treatment because of politics. I spoke to her yesterday and she may be able to go to a naturopath in Oregon who does the right testing because the physicians (MD's) are tormented by the government and threatened with loss of license if they treat Lyme patients. For a progressive state, they are very unprogressive in terms of health. It is fairly typical in so many places, including Canada I understand. I don't know about Sweden.

Anyway, it is something to consider sister (we're all related here you know)... once we've been through this, we're all part of the same family.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>

bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:45:48 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Good speculation, . Cecilia- I would get tested for Lyme and have a Lyme literate doctor interpret the results and get a copy of the results to share with others who know what the different bands mean.

AandrayOn Oct 14, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I just wish I knew the answer to that Cecilia. I think this stuff on your daughter is not just external, but internal as well, but I don't know the source of it. I pray that she and your family do not have Lyme... just wondering myself. There was a study recently that said that even some dust mites can carry Bartonella, but I had Lyme Disease pre-existing birdmites. It may be that when we got the infestation that we got the Bartonella later because my symptoms changed after exposure to the mites. (I am just speculating here)... so it is possible to have just Bartonella without the Lyme. Cats carry Bartonella, but I've also heard that some "bacteria and fungi" are jumping species. Maybe Krys can answer why they are jumping species, or maybe they have always done that to some extent.

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites

Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:04:47 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

No, we didnÂ´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking.

Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PM

Subject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites

Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites

Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

October 15, 2011

Thanks !It probably is something internal as well, but it is so hard to know what it is and how to deal with it.At least it doesnÂ´t seem to be mites anymore. We donÂ´t get the itching and other mite-problems anymore.So Bartonella could excist without lyme..didnÂ´t know. Unfortunately they wonÂ´t test for lyme, and what I understand you cant test for Bartonella or Babesia- it is only clinical- is that right?Thanks for caring LInda. I really hope you feel better now.HugsCeciliaFrom: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 5:05 PMSubject: Re: Aggi

I just wish I knew the answer to that Cecilia. I think this stuff on your daughter is not just external, but internal as well, but I don't know the source of it. I pray that she and your family do not have Lyme... just wondering myself. There was a study recently that said that even some dust mites can carry Bartonella, but I had Lyme Disease pre-existing birdmites. It may be that when we got the infestation that we got the Bartonella later because my symptoms changed after exposure to the mites. (I am just speculating here)... so it is possible to have just Bartonella without the Lyme. Cats carry Bartonella, but I've also heard that some "bacteria and fungi" are jumping species. Maybe Krys can answer why they are jumping species, or maybe they have always done that to some extent.From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:04:47 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

No, we didnÂ´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking. Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

October 15, 2011

THanks for telling me.CeciliaFrom: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 5:07 PMSubject: Re: Aggi

If you do decide to get them tested it should be a Western Blot, not test. You would need to find out what kind of test the doctor does... the are not sensitive enough to really tell the whole picture. If they do both Western Blot and that is fine.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 4:36:02 AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Absolutely it could be. I'd get them tested.AandrayaOn Oct 14, 2011, at 3:04 AM, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

No, we didnÂ´t. They are not intereted in doing that, unfortunately.Thanks for asking. Cecilia(do you think it could be something like that for us as well?)From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:06

AMSubject: Re: Aggi

Cecilia,Did you or your family get tested for Lyme Disease or coinfections? From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:18:50 AMSubject: Aggi

Hi ,Aggi!Great to hear a report from you.

Here is even colder around 5degrees C, but a clear fine day:)

I am really glad to year youÂ´re so well and are not bothered by the mites anymore. Superb!

My 8-year old has some staph-lesions on and off, but they are only small blisters and heal quickly with the bleach-baths.

Otherwise she is healthy now. My 2 year old has a starnge skin after all this and sometimes gets small blisters as well, but that doesnÂ´t seem to be staph.

They disappear normally after a week.

She is also healthy otherwise, so IÂ´m really glad about it.

I donÂ´t get much bothered anymore either. Occasional itching at the scalp, but that is I guess normal and I guess a leftover from the times when it was a lot from the mites. It keeps getting better and I havenÂ´t had any bites for months (crossing my fingers).

Take care Aggi!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:57 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Guys,

Just felt like sending you all a big, warm hug, because here in Germany the temperature has dropped down to 13Â° C and today it has just been dreadful outside, raining cats and dogs ;-) Have been missing you, but haven't got much to report. Just keep taking the Itraconazole patiently and watch myself getting better. I do not get bothered much by mites anymore, some occasional bites still, but they are not that much attracted to me any longer. I am so grateful for having my life back, it feels odd now, sitting somewhere and not getting attacked by the monsters or going to bed without the usual preparation rituals.

I so much hope you will all be able to find your "magic bullet", keep crossing my fingers !!

My boyfriend just had his nose done... no beauty op, but polyps removed :-) After 3 hours he could leave the hospital already and that after having been knocked out. I found that extremely remarkable plus he is healing really, really well. The only thing is that they could grow back quickly, so let's hope for the best.

P.S. Still keep up cleaning and washing procedures, just in case ...

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >Gesendet: 21:12 Sonntag, 9.Oktober 2011 Betreff: Re: To Krys!

Hi, !Happy to hear itÂ´s getting better with the crawling sensations. Bleach baths wouldnÂ´t take care of that, but it really has helped us to lessen the staph, so if thatÂ´s what you have I would give it a try. 3 times a week one 3/4 tub of water with 1 cup of clorine.

Take care!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 5:43 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Yes, it is a beautiful thing that Krys's mum is getting support from her hubbie... that is so right... we say here in our marriage vows,"for better or for worse" and I do believe that. I'm still getting little sores too still and I've got the biofilm - I wonder how much of it is staph and how much is other stuff, other bacterias, etc. I haven't tried the bleach baths as I've been too busy trying to figure out what I'm doing with all the Lyme treatment, but the crawling sensations are quite a bit less than they were. It is diminishing and it has only been 2 weeks on the meds.

It is just good to hear all of your "voices" - you all are always in my thoughts.

Aggi: I so wish I were in Germany right now... everything is so beautiful there with the autumn right around the corner. It is a sight to behold. Sigh...

From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:04:45 PMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi, Krys!IÂ´m glad itÂ´s not too bad for your mum. I hope she getÂ´s the house sold soon. Also great that your stepfather is "on the track" helping with the spraying.

My daughter is not completely healed and some of us other family members gets a small staff-lesion once in a while, but itÂ´s nott too bad. Only small blisters and not big lesions. We keep going with bleach-baths and it sort of keeps it down, even if it hasnÂ´t cured it totally.

It sometimes gets to my head: Can it be mites anyway, but we donÂ´t feel crawlings and bitings, so it just shouldnÂ´t be. I guess after having to deal with the mites for a long time, they stay "in your brain" for a while...

Thanks for answering and say hello to your mum.

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: To Krys!

Hi Cecilia,

Kind of you to ask after my mum. Thank you.

Things with my mother are currently not too bad, but my stepfather is spraying heavily on a regular basis. I think they're more like holding their own rather than really solving the problem.

The house hasn't sold as yet; I'm surprised really because it is in quite a saleable area being countryish, yet within easy commuting distance of London.

How is your daughter's staph infection? I hope the doctors have managed to get rid of it for her.

Take care,

Krys

On 5 October 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Krys!

Just wanted to know how your mum is doing? Has she succeeded in selling her house?

Send her my warm thoughts!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 4:15 AMSubject: Re: Roofers and more tiny mites Need HELP ASAP

The bird mites D. gallinae or O. Sylvarium are visible to the naked eye, even the nymphs, albeit very small & kind of transparent/skin colour, are visible if you get them in the right light; the adults are about the size of a grain of salt; they look like tiny specks which move. Mites, ticks etc. are acarids; beetles, collembola etc. are insects.

If the specks move they could be mites, if they do not move they are probably something else, possibly fungal related.

On 4 October 2011 18:37, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Sandy-

The mites are microscopic. The specks you are seeing are not insects, more likely fungal in nature or biproducts of an infection or infestation. Are you being treated internally? The cleaning and heating will calm the symptoms temporarily, but you also need to treat chronic infections. The bugs are attracted to you.

AandrayaI keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

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