Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbies

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I had the cigar shaped things, also amber colored seed shapes and a multitude of other strange objects. I could produce them by the hundreds with different skin topicals. I had the insects too, I had it all! It all cleared with Lyme/Bartonella/Babesia treatment- antibiotics, antifungals, antiparasiticals- both natural and pharmaceutical.Weird stuff, I'm living proof it's treatable.Aandraya On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

Please please - I am too strapped for time to read all the old posts to find your key ones where you tell what got you well. Will you write me and let me know so I can share it at morjella.com also? If it worked for you it may work for others. That goes for any of you still here who are well now. Also, if anyone has written anything aimed specifically at those who are brand new and desperate, I would love to include that as well. The larger a footprint we have, the more easily people can find help, the quicker they can hit this hard and correctly, and get well. I do not wish my lengthy experience on anyone and am SO glad that the complete lack of information I faced when I got this is no longer the case. There is now so much information, there is really almost too much for

someone to know what to buy, to choose. And are powerful and immediate, but do not allow for the easy categorization of content by users. Blogs are the perfect format for that. Tim has a lot at birdmites.org, and I need to add a link to his home page at Morjella. I had all that at critterfiles, my group, and need to just move my links over to morjella, and any more you suggest.

BTW you can get the F-products direct from Gordon's Big Island Skin Care site, or if you forget the name, you can search for F-6 Restore at eBay, where it costs a few bucks more (think convenience store--but shipping is included for continental US). I haven't had time to add my other favorite products. Contacting vendors and negotiating arrangements is really time consuming, and it no longer seems so important or useful. I am thinking that at least Morgellons and hopefully soon Lyme and all the related conditions will soon be ancient history. That's my prayer, anyhow.

Bill, you left me a message about the cigar critters: Thank you for the suggestion about the Manuca (?) honey. My coworkers would probably like the smell of that better than oregano oil, garlic, and insect repellent, lol!

I am not certain, Bill, but I believe that Morgellons are a colony critter consisting of the cigars, teardrops, and globes. I think that the teardrops are the nurses, the cigars the queens and baby queens, and the globes the warriors. I THINK based on my shower experience and the fact that I began getting surface lesions AFTER my shower experience that Morgellons deliberately "farms" the bacteria that comprise biofilm--like humans farm livestock and produce--and that the matrix they construct of chitin attaches where the tougher skin fibers that form the diamond shapes we see under a microscope cross (think VietNam era "ripstop" fabric, that is, very light, cool fabric with a 1/4" nylon thread "grid" woven throughout to prevent the thin fabric from ripping so easily, that was used in USMC uniforms).

This is a slight update on my old "Farm Theory" article, which predated my reading an article on real research done relating to the "matrix" (I called it a "grid") and the biofilm (the gelatinous squares that emerged from my body after I used the chitinase solution in the shower, which I think must have dissolved the grid/matrix thus releasing the squares of biofilm, which I think must have been cultivated in a hammock like structure that hung from, or that was the, matrix.

As for how to get rid of them, I have dissolved cigar critters in povidone iodine (betadine), Simple Green, the organic chitinase solution, and Orange Plus. You can see some of those happen in my videos at youtube (search for "critterfiles"). The abbreviations after the video name tell you what was used to dissolve the critter in the videos where that happens. WGA is the chitinase solution (dissolved them through tht fifth day after culturation). BTD or BTN is betadine (dissolved them), BXA is borax (made them dance then go still but didn't dissolve them). On my body, though, I still find cigar critters more than the other forms. So maybe I'm headed for honey days!

Gordon dissolves them in his F-products, though I haven't put that to the microscope test. Also, though I still do occasionally check things out under my lighted portable microscope, my digital microscope quit working two computers ago, and I haven't replaced it - all I really need is a driver that works, but none I have tried work.

kajay / morjella.com

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:05 AMSubject: Re: I'm still here

That's it Doris. I am coming along swimmingly and just check the site to see what is going on and if I can help someone. I don't think I am going to order Duchy's as I've been able to keep the mites out via spraying Naylar at my windows and porch daily. Another 2 weeks of painting and I'll have the entire apartment sealed and fungus free. For me, the fungus is the calling card to mites and bugs.

Love and light,

>>>Hi Kayjay>>>>Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's good too. Keep us

posted!>>>>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might not deal with everything involved, it seems the safest route to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not taking a large enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now.>>>> I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with

morgellons, including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is addressing some of these internal parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >>>>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks? And after wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons, which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this disease struck. So many years later and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got another attack with the warm weather here,

that brought on the familiar lumps and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this somehow since I want to start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it> stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the time, which I can easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them!>>>>Your thoughts?>>>>Thanks!>>Love>>Pdidit>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Aandraya, thank you for getting me into the Wisconsin Lyme group. Truly, I wasn't sure I had lyme since I don't have most of the secondary symptoms (flu-like feeling) and had no idea that I had bartonella. I have written here about going to the archery range and getting the red spiders or ticks, who left cigar fiber babies and soon after a bulls eye rash, my first. Tests were limited and negative. Mike read my overview and cut right to the chase. I do have lyme because I did have an unmistakable bulls eye rash. He thinks I also have bartonella, and I need to research that more because I didn't think I did--but if I do, knowing will certainly help me get better faster.

Life is very exciting for me right now. All sorts of opportunities I have been preparing for all my life are happening - I just don't know where I will find the time to take advantage of them. More blessing than curse for sure, and in the meantime so much is breaking loose with the morg, and now learning that I have two other conditions (that have names) as well as a few more nameless ones...I am seriously going to have to pray hard every day to know how to spend each waking minute. It is remarkable, really. I'll take that kind of a challenge any day!

BTW I feel like the F-7 is really refined and potent. It is kicking my butt!!! Like I said, I have never had the flu-like lyme symptoms, ever, but Thursay and Friday, now that I am taking the F-7, I was hurting and exhausted. In addition, my Morgie friend who introduced me to Gordon and the F-products (which allowed me to say goodbye to lesions, period) warned me that the herx from the F-products is very painful. Had he not warned me about the pain that would move day by day from one part of my body to another, I would already have wound up in the emergency room three occasions because in of symptoms I would not have known were connected to the herxing. These included thinking (mistakenly) that I was having a heart attack and another day I thought it was pneumonia - I couldn't draw a breath there was so much fluid - for one day each. Then my friend had said when they

exited his head, they emerged at the top of his spine, like a large boil. I had something similar elsewhere on my head.

This is a daily learning experience. I am so grateful that others who have already been this way before are willing to share their journey with me.

kajay

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 2:54 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbies

I had the cigar shaped things, also amber colored seed shapes and a multitude of other strange objects. I could produce them by the hundreds with different skin topicals. I had the insects too, I had it all! It all cleared with Lyme/Bartonella/Babesia treatment- antibiotics, antifungals, antiparasiticals- both natural and pharmaceutical.

Weird stuff, I'm living proof it's treatable.

Aandraya

On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

Please please - I am too strapped for time to read all the old posts to find your key ones where you tell what got you well. Will you write me and let me know so I can share it at morjella.com also? If it worked for you it may work for others. That goes for any of you still here who are well now. Also, if anyone has written anything aimed specifically at those who are brand new and desperate, I would love to include that as well. The larger a footprint we have, the more easily people can find help, the quicker they can hit this hard and correctly, and get well. I do not wish my lengthy experience on anyone and am SO glad that the complete lack of information I faced when I got this is no longer the case. There is now so much information, there is really almost too much for someone to know what to buy, to choose. And are powerful and immediate, but do not allow for the

easy categorization of content by users. Blogs are the perfect format for that. Tim has a lot at birdmites.org, and I need to add a link to his home page at Morjella. I had all that at critterfiles, my group, and need to just move my links over to morjella, and any more you suggest.

BTW you can get the F-products direct from Gordon's Big Island Skin Care site, or if you forget the name, you can search for F-6 Restore at eBay, where it costs a few bucks more (think convenience store--but shipping is included for continental US). I haven't had time to add my other favorite products. Contacting vendors and negotiating arrangements is really time consuming, and it no longer seems so important or useful. I am thinking that at least Morgellons and hopefully soon Lyme and all the related conditions will soon be ancient history. That's my prayer, anyhow.

Bill, you left me a message about the cigar critters: Thank you for the suggestion about the Manuca (?) honey. My coworkers would probably like the smell of that better than oregano oil, garlic, and insect repellent, lol!

I am not certain, Bill, but I believe that Morgellons are a colony critter consisting of the cigars, teardrops, and globes. I think that the teardrops are the nurses, the cigars the queens and baby queens, and the globes the warriors. I THINK based on my shower experience and the fact that I began getting surface lesions AFTER my shower experience that Morgellons deliberately "farms" the bacteria that comprise biofilm--like humans farm livestock and produce--and that the matrix they construct of chitin attaches where the tougher skin fibers that form the diamond shapes we see under a microscope cross (think VietNam era "ripstop" fabric, that is, very light, cool fabric with a 1/4" nylon thread "grid" woven throughout to prevent the thin fabric from ripping so easily, that was used in USMC uniforms).

This is a slight update on my old "Farm Theory" article, which predated my reading an article on real research done relating to the "matrix" (I called it a "grid") and the biofilm (the gelatinous squares that emerged from my body after I used the chitinase solution in the shower, which I think must have dissolved the grid/matrix thus releasing the squares of biofilm, which I think must have been cultivated in a hammock like structure that hung from, or that was the, matrix.

As for how to get rid of them, I have dissolved cigar critters in povidone iodine (betadine), Simple Green, the organic chitinase solution, and Orange Plus. You can see some of those happen in my videos at youtube (search for "critterfiles"). The abbreviations after the video name tell you what was used to dissolve the critter in the videos where that happens. WGA is the chitinase solution (dissolved them through tht fifth day after culturation). BTD or BTN is betadine (dissolved them), BXA is borax (made them dance then go still but didn't dissolve them). On my body, though, I still find cigar critters more than the other forms. So maybe I'm headed for honey days!

Gordon dissolves them in his F-products, though I haven't put that to the microscope test. Also, though I still do occasionally check things out under my lighted portable microscope, my digital microscope quit working two computers ago, and I haven't replaced it - all I really need is a driver that works, but none I have tried work.

kajay / morjella.com

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:05 AMSubject: Re: I'm still here

That's it Doris. I am coming along swimmingly and just check the site to see what is going on and if I can help someone. I don't think I am going to order Duchy's as I've been able to keep the mites out via spraying Naylar at my windows and porch daily. Another 2 weeks of painting and I'll have the entire apartment sealed and fungus free. For me, the fungus is the calling card to mites and bugs.

Love and light,

> >>Hi Kayjay >> >>Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's good too. Keep us posted! >> >>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might not deal with everything involved, it seems the safest route to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting

better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not taking a large enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now. >> >> I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons, including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is addressing some of these internal parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >> >>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks?

And after wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons, which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this disease struck. So many years later and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got another attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this somehow since I want to start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it > stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the

time, which I can easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them! >> >>Your thoughts? >> >>Thanks! >>Love >>Pdidit >> >> >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

Aandraya, I know you have probably written and written about what you did. Do you have a shortlist somewhere of what you used that you are sure contributed to your recovery, preferably along with your strengths and dosages?

Thank you soo much,

kajay

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 2:54 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbies

I had the cigar shaped things, also amber colored seed shapes and a multitude of other strange objects. I could produce them by the hundreds with different skin topicals. I had the insects too, I had it all! It all cleared with Lyme/Bartonella/Babesia treatment- antibiotics, antifungals, antiparasiticals- both natural and pharmaceutical.

Weird stuff, I'm living proof it's treatable.

Aandraya

On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

Please please - I am too strapped for time to read all the old posts to find your key ones where you tell what got you well. Will you write me and let me know so I can share it at morjella.com also? If it worked for you it may work for others. That goes for any of you still here who are well now. Also, if anyone has written anything aimed specifically at those who are brand new and desperate, I would love to include that as well. The larger a footprint we have, the more easily people can find help, the quicker they can hit this hard and correctly, and get well. I do not wish my lengthy experience on anyone and am SO glad that the complete lack of information I faced when I got this is no longer the case. There is now so much information, there is really almost too much for someone to know what to buy, to choose. And are powerful and immediate, but do not allow for the

easy categorization of content by users. Blogs are the perfect format for that. Tim has a lot at birdmites.org, and I need to add a link to his home page at Morjella. I had all that at critterfiles, my group, and need to just move my links over to morjella, and any more you suggest.

BTW you can get the F-products direct from Gordon's Big Island Skin Care site, or if you forget the name, you can search for F-6 Restore at eBay, where it costs a few bucks more (think convenience store--but shipping is included for continental US). I haven't had time to add my other favorite products. Contacting vendors and negotiating arrangements is really time consuming, and it no longer seems so important or useful. I am thinking that at least Morgellons and hopefully soon Lyme and all the related conditions will soon be ancient history. That's my prayer, anyhow.

Bill, you left me a message about the cigar critters: Thank you for the suggestion about the Manuca (?) honey. My coworkers would probably like the smell of that better than oregano oil, garlic, and insect repellent, lol!

I am not certain, Bill, but I believe that Morgellons are a colony critter consisting of the cigars, teardrops, and globes. I think that the teardrops are the nurses, the cigars the queens and baby queens, and the globes the warriors. I THINK based on my shower experience and the fact that I began getting surface lesions AFTER my shower experience that Morgellons deliberately "farms" the bacteria that comprise biofilm--like humans farm livestock and produce--and that the matrix they construct of chitin attaches where the tougher skin fibers that form the diamond shapes we see under a microscope cross (think VietNam era "ripstop" fabric, that is, very light, cool fabric with a 1/4" nylon thread "grid" woven throughout to prevent the thin fabric from ripping so easily, that was used in USMC uniforms).

This is a slight update on my old "Farm Theory" article, which predated my reading an article on real research done relating to the "matrix" (I called it a "grid") and the biofilm (the gelatinous squares that emerged from my body after I used the chitinase solution in the shower, which I think must have dissolved the grid/matrix thus releasing the squares of biofilm, which I think must have been cultivated in a hammock like structure that hung from, or that was the, matrix.

As for how to get rid of them, I have dissolved cigar critters in povidone iodine (betadine), Simple Green, the organic chitinase solution, and Orange Plus. You can see some of those happen in my videos at youtube (search for "critterfiles"). The abbreviations after the video name tell you what was used to dissolve the critter in the videos where that happens. WGA is the chitinase solution (dissolved them through tht fifth day after culturation). BTD or BTN is betadine (dissolved them), BXA is borax (made them dance then go still but didn't dissolve them). On my body, though, I still find cigar critters more than the other forms. So maybe I'm headed for honey days!

Gordon dissolves them in his F-products, though I haven't put that to the microscope test. Also, though I still do occasionally check things out under my lighted portable microscope, my digital microscope quit working two computers ago, and I haven't replaced it - all I really need is a driver that works, but none I have tried work.

kajay / morjella.com

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:05 AMSubject: Re: I'm still here

That's it Doris. I am coming along swimmingly and just check the site to see what is going on and if I can help someone. I don't think I am going to order Duchy's as I've been able to keep the mites out via spraying Naylar at my windows and porch daily. Another 2 weeks of painting and I'll have the entire apartment sealed and fungus free. For me, the fungus is the calling card to mites and bugs.

Love and light,

> >>Hi Kayjay >> >>Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's good too. Keep us posted! >> >>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might not deal with everything involved, it seems the safest route to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting

better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not taking a large enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now. >> >> I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons, including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is addressing some of these internal parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >> >>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks?

And after wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons, which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this disease struck. So many years later and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got another attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this somehow since I want to start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it > stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the

time, which I can easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them! >> >>Your thoughts? >> >>Thanks! >>Love >>Pdidit >> >> >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

I think I used every skin product and household cleaning product known to mankind. It calmed down the problems very temporarily. I went on the Paleo diet, did a lot of supplementation, sauna, baths, mms, almost everything really. Soaked my clothes for hours, stored all my belongings away for almost a year. Left my car for almost a year.Treating Lyme, coinfections, and secondary infections is what resolved the bizarre skin issues and insects in my environment. Bartonella- Bactrim, Doxy, Ceftin, Levaquin; Babesia- Mepron, Malerone, Artemisinin, Bactrim; Mold- Itraconazole, Voriconazole, pao de arco, black walnut, caprylic acid, enzymes; other broad spectrum antimicrobials- Allicin, oregano oil, other essential oilsAlso, Klinghardts protocol for KPU/HPU aka: kryptopyrroluria was key to detox and get immune system functioning.A lot of the weird stuff coming out of the skin is different stages of fungus and biproducts from Bartonella. On Oct 1, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

Aandraya, I know you have probably written and written about what you did. Do you have a shortlist somewhere of what you used that you are sure contributed to your recovery, preferably along with your strengths and dosages?

Thank you soo much,

kajay

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 2:54 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbies

I had the cigar shaped things, also amber colored seed shapes and a multitude of other strange objects. I could produce them by the hundreds with different skin topicals. I had the insects too, I had it all! It all cleared with Lyme/Bartonella/Babesia treatment- antibiotics, antifungals, antiparasiticals- both natural and pharmaceutical.

Weird stuff, I'm living proof it's treatable.

Aandraya

On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

Please please - I am too strapped for time to read all the old posts to find your key ones where you tell what got you well. Will you write me and let me know so I can share it at morjella.com also? If it worked for you it may work for others. That goes for any of you still here who are well now. Also, if anyone has written anything aimed specifically at those who are brand new and desperate, I would love to include that as well. The larger a footprint we have, the more easily people can find help, the quicker they can hit this hard and correctly, and get well. I do not wish my lengthy experience on anyone and am SO glad that the complete lack of information I faced when I got this is no longer the case. There is now so much information, there is really almost too much for someone to know what to buy, to choose. And are powerful and immediate, but do not allow for the

easy categorization of content by users. Blogs are the perfect format for that. Tim has a lot at birdmites.org, and I need to add a link to his home page at Morjella. I had all that at critterfiles, my group, and need to just move my links over to morjella, and any more you suggest.

BTW you can get the F-products direct from Gordon's Big Island Skin Care site, or if you forget the name, you can search for F-6 Restore at eBay, where it costs a few bucks more (think convenience store--but shipping is included for continental US). I haven't had time to add my other favorite products. Contacting vendors and negotiating arrangements is really time consuming, and it no longer seems so important or useful. I am thinking that at least Morgellons and hopefully soon Lyme and all the related conditions will soon be ancient history. That's my prayer, anyhow.

Bill, you left me a message about the cigar critters: Thank you for the suggestion about the Manuca (?) honey. My coworkers would probably like the smell of that better than oregano oil, garlic, and insect repellent, lol!

I am not certain, Bill, but I believe that Morgellons are a colony critter consisting of the cigars, teardrops, and globes. I think that the teardrops are the nurses, the cigars the queens and baby queens, and the globes the warriors. I THINK based on my shower experience and the fact that I began getting surface lesions AFTER my shower experience that Morgellons deliberately "farms" the bacteria that comprise biofilm--like humans farm livestock and produce--and that the matrix they construct of chitin attaches where the tougher skin fibers that form the diamond shapes we see under a microscope cross (think VietNam era "ripstop" fabric, that is, very light, cool fabric with a 1/4" nylon thread "grid" woven throughout to prevent the thin fabric from ripping so easily, that was used in USMC uniforms).

This is a slight update on my old "Farm Theory" article, which predated my reading an article on real research done relating to the "matrix" (I called it a "grid") and the biofilm (the gelatinous squares that emerged from my body after I used the chitinase solution in the shower, which I think must have dissolved the grid/matrix thus releasing the squares of biofilm, which I think must have been cultivated in a hammock like structure that hung from, or that was the, matrix.

As for how to get rid of them, I have dissolved cigar critters in povidone iodine (betadine), Simple Green, the organic chitinase solution, and Orange Plus. You can see some of those happen in my videos at youtube (search for "critterfiles"). The abbreviations after the video name tell you what was used to dissolve the critter in the videos where that happens. WGA is the chitinase solution (dissolved them through tht fifth day after culturation). BTD or BTN is betadine (dissolved them), BXA is borax (made them dance then go still but didn't dissolve them). On my body, though, I still find cigar critters more than the other forms. So maybe I'm headed for honey days!

Gordon dissolves them in his F-products, though I haven't put that to the microscope test. Also, though I still do occasionally check things out under my lighted portable microscope, my digital microscope quit working two computers ago, and I haven't replaced it - all I really need is a driver that works, but none I have tried work.

kajay / morjella.com

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:05 AMSubject: Re: I'm still here

That's it Doris. I am coming along swimmingly and just check the site to see what is going on and if I can help someone. I don't think I am going to order Duchy's as I've been able to keep the mites out via spraying Naylar at my windows and porch daily. Another 2 weeks of painting and I'll have the entire apartment sealed and fungus free. For me, the fungus is the calling card to mites and bugs.

Love and light,

> >>Hi Kayjay >> >>Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's good too. Keep us posted! >> >>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might not deal with everything involved, it seems the safest route to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting

better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not taking a large enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now. >> >> I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons, including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is addressing some of these internal parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >> >>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks?

And after wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons, which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this disease struck. So many years later and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got another attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this somehow since I want to start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it > stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the

time, which I can easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them! >> >>Your thoughts? >> >>Thanks! >>Love >>Pdidit >> >> >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

The dosages I took for all the antimicrobial agents were standard for Lyme to a more aggressive dosage. For example Itraconazole was 200mg once a day, Bactrim 500 mg 2x a day. Doxy 200mg 2x a day. A lot depends on what the body can tolerate due to massive die off reaction. Detox is important throughout these treatments. Also. It takes months on these meds to get the infection levels down to where the immune system can take over. Right now Levaquin is kicking the Bartonella in a huge way. 500mg 2x a day. You need to have a Lyme literate doc who can take on the coinfections, many don't know. They just treat the Lyme bacteria- Borrelia, and the patient never gets better because they have Bartonella and Babesia. Babesia treatment will hit all kinds of parasites. AandrayaOn Oct 1, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

Aandraya, I know you have probably written and written about what you did. Do you have a shortlist somewhere of what you used that you are sure contributed to your recovery, preferably along with your strengths and dosages?

Thank you soo much,

kajay

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 2:54 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbies

I had the cigar shaped things, also amber colored seed shapes and a multitude of other strange objects. I could produce them by the hundreds with different skin topicals. I had the insects too, I had it all! It all cleared with Lyme/Bartonella/Babesia treatment- antibiotics, antifungals, antiparasiticals- both natural and pharmaceutical.

Weird stuff, I'm living proof it's treatable.

Aandraya

On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

Please please - I am too strapped for time to read all the old posts to find your key ones where you tell what got you well. Will you write me and let me know so I can share it at morjella.com also? If it worked for you it may work for others. That goes for any of you still here who are well now. Also, if anyone has written anything aimed specifically at those who are brand new and desperate, I would love to include that as well. The larger a footprint we have, the more easily people can find help, the quicker they can hit this hard and correctly, and get well. I do not wish my lengthy experience on anyone and am SO glad that the complete lack of information I faced when I got this is no longer the case. There is now so much information, there is really almost too much for someone to know what to buy, to choose. And are powerful and immediate, but do not allow for the

easy categorization of content by users. Blogs are the perfect format for that. Tim has a lot at birdmites.org, and I need to add a link to his home page at Morjella. I had all that at critterfiles, my group, and need to just move my links over to morjella, and any more you suggest.

BTW you can get the F-products direct from Gordon's Big Island Skin Care site, or if you forget the name, you can search for F-6 Restore at eBay, where it costs a few bucks more (think convenience store--but shipping is included for continental US). I haven't had time to add my other favorite products. Contacting vendors and negotiating arrangements is really time consuming, and it no longer seems so important or useful. I am thinking that at least Morgellons and hopefully soon Lyme and all the related conditions will soon be ancient history. That's my prayer, anyhow.

Bill, you left me a message about the cigar critters: Thank you for the suggestion about the Manuca (?) honey. My coworkers would probably like the smell of that better than oregano oil, garlic, and insect repellent, lol!

I am not certain, Bill, but I believe that Morgellons are a colony critter consisting of the cigars, teardrops, and globes. I think that the teardrops are the nurses, the cigars the queens and baby queens, and the globes the warriors. I THINK based on my shower experience and the fact that I began getting surface lesions AFTER my shower experience that Morgellons deliberately "farms" the bacteria that comprise biofilm--like humans farm livestock and produce--and that the matrix they construct of chitin attaches where the tougher skin fibers that form the diamond shapes we see under a microscope cross (think VietNam era "ripstop" fabric, that is, very light, cool fabric with a 1/4" nylon thread "grid" woven throughout to prevent the thin fabric from ripping so easily, that was used in USMC uniforms).

This is a slight update on my old "Farm Theory" article, which predated my reading an article on real research done relating to the "matrix" (I called it a "grid") and the biofilm (the gelatinous squares that emerged from my body after I used the chitinase solution in the shower, which I think must have dissolved the grid/matrix thus releasing the squares of biofilm, which I think must have been cultivated in a hammock like structure that hung from, or that was the, matrix.

As for how to get rid of them, I have dissolved cigar critters in povidone iodine (betadine), Simple Green, the organic chitinase solution, and Orange Plus. You can see some of those happen in my videos at youtube (search for "critterfiles"). The abbreviations after the video name tell you what was used to dissolve the critter in the videos where that happens. WGA is the chitinase solution (dissolved them through tht fifth day after culturation). BTD or BTN is betadine (dissolved them), BXA is borax (made them dance then go still but didn't dissolve them). On my body, though, I still find cigar critters more than the other forms. So maybe I'm headed for honey days!

Gordon dissolves them in his F-products, though I haven't put that to the microscope test. Also, though I still do occasionally check things out under my lighted portable microscope, my digital microscope quit working two computers ago, and I haven't replaced it - all I really need is a driver that works, but none I have tried work.

kajay / morjella.com

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:05 AMSubject: Re: I'm still here

That's it Doris. I am coming along swimmingly and just check the site to see what is going on and if I can help someone. I don't think I am going to order Duchy's as I've been able to keep the mites out via spraying Naylar at my windows and porch daily. Another 2 weeks of painting and I'll have the entire apartment sealed and fungus free. For me, the fungus is the calling card to mites and bugs.

Love and light,

> >>Hi Kayjay >> >>Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's good too. Keep us posted! >> >>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might not deal with everything involved, it seems the safest route to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting

better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not taking a large enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now. >> >> I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons, including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is addressing some of these internal parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >> >>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks?

And after wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons, which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this disease struck. So many years later and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got another attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this somehow since I want to start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it > stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the

time, which I can easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them! >> >>Your thoughts? >> >>Thanks! >>Love >>Pdidit >> >> >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Aandraya. I've updated the list and will keep updating it whenever sends me new info.

Hi, I'm trying to put together a running list of the primary strategies of some who have recovered most recently and wonder if you would 1) check what I have for you and add to it (no need to format as I have it, just talk to me :-) Then I will compile and repost all together here and also post at morjella.com. Over time I will identify the commonalities. Also, when I post at morjella.com, I will strip out your names and just refer to you as A, B, C, unless you specifically want me to use your name.

Please email corrections or updates to me anytime from now on at morjella@... or morjella@.... Thank you, and God bless you.

Love,Kajay/Kayjay/Morjella

===========Aandraya (Lyme, Bart, Babesia, Morgellons): Please check to see if I understood you correctly. Also, what other Abx did you take?

General advice - What got rid of the bugs was treating the chronic infections- I used herbal antibiotics, but I believe Rx antibiotics are necessary- these infections are so virulent and have been present for a long time for a lot of us. As my skin got healthier and I stayed on the meds the bugs did disappear. I did all the cleaning throughout my treatment and got away from a moldy environment. You won't get better if you have mold in your house. I checked this apt for mold before i moved in. I also have a dehumidifier going all the time. Having a doctor who knows how to treat this stuff is so important, and one that will stick with you until you are completely better. That's my doctor.

INTERNAL -

Strategies by Type:

Antibiotics: Took a lot of antibiotics for Lyme, Bartonella (2 years down of 3-5 year treatment) including Voriconazole and ?

Antifungals: Are all these herbal (I moved them all down to that category) or are some pharmaceutical formulations?)

Antiprotozoals: Mepron, Artemisinin

Herbals and Herbal formulations: A-Bart, Artemisiacom, Black Walnut Tincture, Energique's Yeast Formula, Itraconazole, Pau D'Arco (ok to combine) ?

Strategies by Issue:

Bartonella: Bactrim, Doxy, Ceftin, Levaquin

Babesia: Mepron, Malerone, Artemisinin, Bactrim

Mold: Itraconazole, Voriconazole, Pao d'Arco, Black Walnut, Caprylic Acid, Enzymes

Immune System: Klinghardts protocol for KPU/HPU aka: kryptopyrroluria was key to detox and get immune system functioning

Result: No mold or insects for 13 months

ENVIRO -

Strategies: Clean with Enzyme based + Biopure's Gamma ozonated plant oil

Result: No mold or insects for 13 months

===========Bill

ENVIRO - Hard surfaces -

Strategy: clean with solution of A & H Powdered Laundry Detergent

Follow-Up: Use (dust? spray? leave down or vacuum up) dry baking soda

Result: No more bugs.

APPAREL - Shoes -

Strategy: put dry A & H Powdered Laundry Detergent in shoes and mist with Windex, shake around and wait 8 hours.

Follow-Up: Dru baking soda

Result: No more bugs.

===========Noreen

ENVIRO - CARPET -

Strategy: Dusted with dry A & H laundry detergent. Left to work in for a couple days.

Result: major relief, first break from constant vacuuming. no problem after

ENVIRO - TILE -

Strategy: Mopped with diluted bleach, dusted with dry baking soda, later vacuumed up soda

Result: ?

===========

ENVIRO - BUGS/MITES -

Strategy: Sprayed monthly w/Bifen (http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/search.aspx?criteria=bifen) on base boards, behind appliances, around plumbing etc.

Warning: Leave house for 2 hrs after spraying

Result: Kills bugs/mites

ENVIRO - FUNGUS/MOLD -

Strategy: Spray Lysol (in the can or dilute the Liquid Lysol?) Clean with liquid Lysol?

Result: Kills fungus/mold, and some bugs

===========Who has used predator mites successfully?

ENVIRO -

Strategy: Release predator mites

Result: The predator mites eat the parasitic mites, then each other.

Note: I couldn't find these at the link provided.

===========CRITTER FACTS

Sparklers - Fungus Mycileum (sp?) has iridecent glow.

===========DOCTORS WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP

Dr. Crist - Missouri==============================================================================================================

[Guest guest]

I know I am getting better - after over 3 years of torture and hopelessness. I

am using Restore by Gordon / aka F5. I wanted to think it was just more snake

oil. But my eyebrows are better. I don't have to shave them. Fucking

unbelievable but true.

I'm not selling anything, but this man is on to something.

On Mon Oct 3rd, 2011 12:07 AM EDT Kajay109 wrote:

>Thanks, Aandraya. I've updated the list and will keep updating it whenever

sends me new info.

> Hi, I'm trying to put together a running list of the primary strategies of

some who have recovered most recently and wonder if you would 1) check what I

have for you and add to it (no need to format as I have it, just talk to me

:-)  Then I will compile and repost all together here and also post at

morjella.com. Over time I will identify the commonalities. Also, when I post at

morjella.com, I will strip out your names and just refer to you as A, B, C,

unless you specifically want me to use your name.

>

>

>Please email corrections or updates to me anytime from now on at

morjella@... or morjella@.... Thank you, and God bless you.

>

>Love,

>Kajay/Kayjay/Morjella

>===========

>Aandraya (Lyme, Bart, Babesia, Morgellons): Please check to see if I understood

you correctly. Also, what other Abx did you take?

>General advice - What got rid of the bugs was treating the chronic infections-

I used herbal antibiotics, but I believe Rx antibiotics are necessary- these

infections are so virulent and have been present for a long time for a lot of

us.    As my skin got healthier and I stayed on the meds the bugs did

disappear.    I did all the cleaning throughout my treatment and got away from a

moldy environment.    You won't get better if you have mold in your house. I

checked this apt for mold before i moved in.    I also have a dehumidifier going

all the time. Having a doctor who knows how to treat this stuff is so important,

and one that will stick with you until you are completely better.    That's my

doctor.

>>INTERNAL -

>>>Strategies by Type:

>>>> * Antibiotics: Took a lot of antibiotics for Lyme, Bartonella (2 years down

of 3-5 year treatment) including Voriconazole and ?

>>>> * Antifungals: Are all these herbal (I moved them all down to that

category) or are some pharmaceutical formulations?)

>>>> * Antiprotozoals: Mepron, Artemisinin

>>>> * Herbals and Herbal formulations: A-Bart, Artemisiacom, Black Walnut

Tincture, Energique's Yeast Formula, Itraconazole, Pau D'Arco (ok to combine) ?

>>>>Strategies by Issue: * Bartonella: Bactrim, Doxy, Ceftin, Levaquin

>>>> * Babesia: Mepron, Malerone, Artemisinin, Bactrim

>>>> * Mold: Itraconazole, Voriconazole, Pao d'Arco, Black Walnut, Caprylic

Acid, Enzymes * Immune System: Klinghardts protocol for KPU/HPU aka:

kryptopyrroluria was key to detox and get immune system functioning

>>>>Result: No mold or insects for 13 months

>>>ENVIRO -

>>>Strategies: Clean with Enzyme based + Biopure's Gamma ozonated plant oil

>>>>Result: No mold or insects for 13 months

>===========

>Bill

>ENVIRO - Hard surfaces -

>>Strategy: clean with solution of A & H Powdered Laundry Detergent

>>>Follow-Up: Use (dust? spray? leave down or vacuum up) dry baking soda

>>>Result: No more bugs.

>>APPAREL - Shoes -

>>Strategy: put dry A & H Powdered Laundry Detergent in shoes and mist with

Windex, shake around and wait 8 hours.

>>>Follow-Up: Dru baking soda

>>>Result: No more bugs.

>===========

>Noreen

>ENVIRO - CARPET -

>>Strategy: Dusted with dry A & H laundry detergent. Left to work in for a couple

days.

>>>Result: major relief, first break from constant vacuuming. no problem after

>>ENVIRO - TILE -

>>Strategy: Mopped with diluted bleach, dusted with dry baking soda, later

vacuumed up soda

>>>Result: ?

>===========

>

>ENVIRO - BUGS/MITES -

>>Strategy: Sprayed monthly

w/Bifen (http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/search.aspx?criteria=bifen) on

base boards, behind appliances, around plumbing etc.

>>>Warning: Leave house for 2 hrs after spraying

>>>Result: Kills bugs/mites

>>ENVIRO - FUNGUS/MOLD -

>>Strategy: Spray Lysol (in the can or dilute the Liquid Lysol?) Clean with

liquid Lysol?

>>>Result: Kills fungus/mold, and some bugs

>===========

>Who has used predator mites successfully?

>ENVIRO -

>>Strategy: Release predator mites

>>>Result: The predator mites eat the parasitic mites, then each other.

>>>Note: I couldn't find these at the link provided.

>===========

>CRITTER FACTS

>    Sparklers - Fungus Mycileum (sp?) has iridecent glow.   

>===========

>DOCTORS WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP

>    Dr. Crist - Missouri

>===========

>===========

>===========

>===========

>===========

>===========

>===========

>===========

>===========

>===========

[Guest guest]

I'm so happy for you!!!

kajay

From: "tenchantre@..." <tenchantre@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 9:03 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbies

I know I am getting better - after over 3 years of torture and hopelessness. I am using Restore by Gordon / aka F5. I wanted to think it was just more snake oil. But my eyebrows are better. I don't have to shave them. Fucking unbelievable but true.I'm not selling anything, but this man is on to something.On Mon Oct 3rd, 2011 12:07 AM EDT Kajay109 wrote:>Thanks, Aandraya. I've updated the list and will keep updating it whenever sends me new info.> Hi, I'm trying to put together a running list of the primary strategies of some who have recovered most recently and wonder if you would 1) check what I have for you and add to it (no need to format as I have it, just talk to me :-) Then I will compile and repost all together here and also post at morjella.com. Over time I will identify the commonalities. Also, when I post at morjella.com, I will strip out your

names and just refer to you as A, B, C, unless you specifically want me to use your name. >>>Please email corrections or updates to me anytime from now on at morjella@... or morjella@.... Thank you, and God bless you.>>Love,>Kajay/Kayjay/Morjella>===========>Aandraya (Lyme, Bart, Babesia, Morgellons): Please check to see if I understood you correctly. Also, what other Abx did you take?>General advice - What got rid of the bugs was treating the chronic infections- I used herbal antibiotics, but I believe Rx antibiotics are necessary- these infections are so virulent and have been present for a long time for a lot of us. As

my skin got healthier and I stayed on the meds the bugs did disappear. I did all the cleaning throughout my treatment and got away from a moldy environment. You won't get better if you have mold in your house. I checked this apt for mold before i moved in. I also have a dehumidifier going all the time. Having a doctor who knows how to treat this stuff is so important, and one that will stick with you until you are completely better. That's my doctor.>>INTERNAL - >>>Strategies by Type:>>>> * Antibiotics: Took a lot of antibiotics for Lyme, Bartonella (2 years down of 3-5 year treatment) including Voriconazole and ?>>>> * Antifungals: Are all these herbal (I moved them all down to that category) or are some pharmaceutical formulations?)>>>> *

Antiprotozoals: Mepron, Artemisinin>>>> * Herbals and Herbal formulations: A-Bart, Artemisiacom, Black Walnut Tincture, Energique's Yeast Formula, Itraconazole, Pau D'Arco (ok to combine) ?>>>>Strategies by Issue: * Bartonella: Bactrim, Doxy, Ceftin, Levaquin>>>> * Babesia: Mepron, Malerone, Artemisinin, Bactrim>>>> * Mold: Itraconazole, Voriconazole, Pao d'Arco, Black Walnut, Caprylic Acid, Enzymes * Immune System: Klinghardts protocol for KPU/HPU aka: kryptopyrroluria was key to detox and get immune system functioning>>>>Result: No mold or insects for 13 months>>>ENVIRO - >>>Strategies: Clean with Enzyme based + Biopure's Gamma ozonated plant oil>>>>Result: No mold or insects for 13 months>===========>Bill >ENVIRO - Hard surfaces - >>Strategy: clean with solution of A & H

Powdered Laundry Detergent >>>Follow-Up: Use (dust? spray? leave down or vacuum up) dry baking soda>>>Result: No more bugs.>>APPAREL - Shoes - >>Strategy: put dry A & H Powdered Laundry Detergent in shoes and mist with Windex, shake around and wait 8 hours. >>>Follow-Up: Dru baking soda>>>Result: No more bugs.>===========>Noreen>ENVIRO - CARPET - >>Strategy: Dusted with dry A & H laundry detergent. Left to work in for a couple days.>>>Result: major relief, first break from constant vacuuming. no problem after>>ENVIRO - TILE - >>Strategy: Mopped with diluted bleach, dusted with dry baking soda, later vacuumed up soda>>>Result: ?>===========> >ENVIRO - BUGS/MITES - >>Strategy: Sprayed monthly w/Bifen (http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/search.aspx?criteria=bifen) on base boards, behind appliances, around plumbing etc. >>>Warning: Leave house for 2 hrs after spraying>>>Result: Kills bugs/mites>>ENVIRO - FUNGUS/MOLD - >>Strategy: Spray Lysol (in the can or dilute the Liquid Lysol?) Clean with liquid Lysol?>>>Result: Kills fungus/mold, and some bugs>===========>Who has used predator mites successfully?>ENVIRO - >>Strategy: Release predator mites>>>Result: The predator mites eat the parasitic mites, then each other. >>>Note: I couldn't find these at the link provided.>===========>CRITTER FACTS> Sparklers - Fungus Mycileum (sp?) has iridecent

glow. >===========>DOCTORS WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP> Dr. Crist - Missouri>===========>===========>===========>===========>===========>===========>===========>===========>===========>===========

[Guest guest]

Hi Kajay,

I'll write when I know I am finally 100% cured. I see my Dr. on the 17th of the month. Hopefully, it won't be too much longer.

Love and light,

> >>Hi Kayjay >> >>Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's good too. Keep us posted! >> >>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might not deal with everything involved, it seems the safest route to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting

better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not taking a large enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now. >> >> I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons, including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is addressing some of these internal parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >> >>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks?

And after wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons, which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this disease struck. So many years later and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got another attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this somehow since I want to start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it > stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the

time, which I can easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them! >> >>Your thoughts? >> >>Thanks! >>Love >>Pdidit >> >> >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

Are you almost 100% ? I am hoping... for you.From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 2:16:24 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbies

Hi Kajay,

I'll write when I know I am finally 100% cured. I see my Dr. on the 17th of the month. Hopefully, it won't be too much longer.

Love and light,

> >>Hi Kayjay >> >>Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's good too. Keep us posted! >> >>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might not deal with everything involved, it seems the safest route to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting

better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not taking a large enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now. >> >> I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons, including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is addressing some of these internal parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >> >>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks?

And after wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons, which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this disease struck. So many years later and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got another attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this somehow since I want to start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it > stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the

time, which I can easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them! >> >>Your thoughts? >> >>Thanks! >>Love >>Pdidit >> >> >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm seeing a pattern to hertzing with this. I thought a noticed a 3 month rhythm happening, and time has proven me correct. Is it a rhythm of the body, fungus, or ?...that I'm not sure of. But every three months, I experience a lot coming from my skin and then calm healing period until the next 3 month period. Before medications, it was a new crop of sore break outs followed by the return of the bugs. The last 9 months have provided this food for thought as I've paid special attention:

* Before meds. November, 2011

Over 200 lesions. bugs all over me, webs with balls all over my body, and enviroment has white floaters and clothing has lint a balls all over after wash. Car attacts me on every drive home.

Three months later............

*Feb. 2011, on Alcyclovir, but only recently(about 60 new sores rather than 200 with the, unknown at the time, mycelium growth all over skin especially around sores.) Lots of large plastic hypae in my bath water and emerginf from my skin.

3 months later...............

*May, 2011 About 20 lesions (smaller) with mycelium growth all over, medium size plastic hypae, and bugs are back.. At this time I realize I have a fungus and start antifugal diet.

3 monts later...............

*Late Sept.2011, One lesion on back nearly healed. On antifugal for 2 months at this point. Gray skin areas arising and disapppearing with soda baths and antifugal creams. The plastic hypae is still leaving my skin but is getting very tiny these days. Sometimes they leave in whole, sometimes they burst and mycelium tries to establish but fails with all that I am doing, and rarely I feel one turn from hard to soft beneth the skin and disolve.I find that any spores that make it to the surface of the skin try to establish risods. Few do, but the ones that do tend to establish in dead, scar tissue that doesn't seem to receive the medicine from the blood. Therefore I rub and rub these points until the risod pulls out. A dab of Tilex mold and mildew cleaner tends to heal the spot within days. Due to the fugus that re entered my car from storage visit around the last of July, I

periodiacally see the white floating fibers that indicate the feather winged beetle. I am vacuuming and spraying the car once a week. It is only after coming home in the car after work that I may pick some of these up during this latest 3 month hertzing moment(when my body is pushing yet another layer of fungus out). Irrigating my ears with MMS and a Lysol bath removes them and anti fungal liquid in my ears kills anything that got in.

Seems I am near ready for 3 months of no problems until around the end of December if this rythme is true. That's why I am holding out in posting for Kajay. Want all the facts as if I don't get the whole story, a newbie will be depressed when positive results occur and then the 3 month moment happens. I expect either a small reaction as yet another layer leaves or nothing at all as the antifunal medicine shall have been in my system for 5 months by December. With each rhythm cycle, problems are less each time.

This rythme would explain why bugs bother, then don't, then later bother again for a lot of people. I hope this helps someone. Does anyone else notice this rhythm?

Love and light,

Fri, 10/7/11, Goldstein@... <Goldstein@...> wrote:

From: Goldstein@... <Goldstein@...>Subject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbiesbird mites Date: Friday, October 7, 2011, 10:18 PM

Are you almost 100% ? I am hoping... for you.

From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 2:16:24 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbies

Hi Kajay,

I'll write when I know I am finally 100% cured. I see my Dr. on the 17th of the month. Hopefully, it won't be too much longer.

Love and light,

> >>Hi Kayjay >> >>Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's good too. Keep us posted! >> >>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might not deal with everything involved, it seems the safest route to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting

better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not taking a large enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now. >> >> I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons, including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is addressing some of these internal parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >> >>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks?

And after wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons, which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this disease struck. So many years later and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got another attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this somehow since I want to start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it > stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the

time, which I can easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them! >> >>Your thoughts? >> >>Thanks! >>Love >>Pdidit >> >> >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

Kajay,

Here is what I wrote .

Hi ,

I'm seeing a pattern to hertzing with this. I thought a noticed a 3 month rhythm happening, and time has proven me correct. Is it a rhythm of the body, fungus, or ?...that I'm not sure of. But every three months, I experience a lot coming from my skin and then calm healing period until the next 3 month period. Before medications, it was a new crop of sore break outs followed by the return of the bugs. The last 9 months have provided this food for thought as I've paid special attention:

* Before meds. November, 2011

Over 200 lesions. bugs all over me, webs with balls all over my body, and enviroment has white floaters and clothing has lint a balls all over after wash. Car attacts me on every drive home.

Three months later............

*Feb. 2011, on Alcyclovir, but only recently(about 60 new sores rather than 200 with the, unknown at the time, mycelium growth all over skin especially around sores.) Lots of large plastic hypae in my bath water and emerginf from my skin.

3 months later...............

*May, 2011 About 20 lesions (smaller) with mycelium growth all over, medium size plastic hypae, and bugs are back.. At this time I realize I have a fungus and start antifugal diet.

3 monts later...............

*Late Sept.2011, One lesion on back nearly healed. On antifugal for 2 months at this point. Gray skin areas arising and disapppearing with soda baths and antifugal creams. The plastic hypae is still leaving my skin but is getting very tiny these days. Sometimes they leave in whole, sometimes they burst and mycelium tries to establish but fails with all that I am doing, and rarely I feel one turn from hard to soft beneth the skin and disolve.I find that any spores that make it to the surface of the skin try to establish risods. Few do, but the ones that do tend to establish in dead, scar tissue that doesn't seem to receive the medicine from the blood. Therefore I rub and rub these points until the risod pulls out. A dab of Tilex mold and mildew cleaner tends to heal the spot within days. Due to the fugus that re entered my car from storage visit around the last of July, I

periodiacally see the white floating fibers that indicate the feather winged beetle. I am vacuuming and spraying the car once a week. It is only after coming home in the car after work that I may pick some of these up during this latest 3 month hertzing moment(when my body is pushing yet another layer of fungus out). Irrigating my ears with MMS and a Lysol bath removes them and anti fungal liquid in my ears kills anything that got in.

Seems I am near ready for 3 months of no problems until around the end of December if this rythme is true. That's why I am holding out in posting for Kajay. Want all the facts as if I don't get the whole story, a newbie will be depressed when positive results occur and then the 3 month moment happens. I expect either a small reaction as yet another layer leaves or nothing at all as the antifunal medicine shall have been in my system for 5 months by December. With each rhythm cycle, problems are less each time.

This rythme would explain why bugs bother, then don't, then later bother again for a lot of people. I hope this helps someone. Does anyone else notice this rhythm?

Love and light,

> >>Hi Kayjay >> >>Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's good too. Keep us posted! >> >>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might not deal with everything involved, it seems the safest route to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting

better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not taking a large enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now. >> >> I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons, including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is addressing some of these internal parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >> >>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks?

And after wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons, which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this disease struck. So many years later and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got another attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this somehow since I want to start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it > stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the

time, which I can easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them! >> >>Your thoughts? >> >>Thanks! >>Love >>Pdidit >> >> >> >> >> >

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Hi I've noticed a real pattern over the last few years too. There are times of quiet of symptoms and then bam, another very different pattern emergences of something, sometimes the same, sometimes different. I've read recently in the Lyme Disease literature that Lyme symptoms are the most prevalent in Spring and Fall. They too have a seasonal expression. This herxing I'm doing has gotten the best of me and I have to back off a bit for a day or so... didn't sleep last night at all because of the nausea which at the level my doctor wants me to take makes it nearly impossible to function. It is better to take little breaks if need be and sometimes the breaks are important because the spirochetes can change within minutes from a cyst form back into the spirochete form and they are more susceptible to medications. I guess they think it is safe to emerge again. The spirochetes are the cork screw little suckers that can go anywhere in the body, but the cyst form is quieter and I don't think it creates more neurotoxin. Did you experience times when you had to take a break ?The chemtrails started up again here, but also quieted down again. I got onto a Facebook page for people interested in chemtrails since few people seem to be, including the media (not interested)... some people are buying kits to test their soil near them and I might do that if I can get a few answers first. How do they know what the lead, aluminum levels were before the chemtrails? That would seem important. Love to all, From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2011 11:12:58 AMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbies

Hi ,

I'm seeing a pattern to hertzing with this. I thought a noticed a 3 month rhythm happening, and time has proven me correct. Is it a rhythm of the body, fungus, or ?...that I'm not sure of. But every three months, I experience a lot coming from my skin and then calm healing period until the next 3 month period. Before medications, it was a new crop of sore break outs followed by the return of the bugs. The last 9 months have provided this food for thought as I've paid special attention:

* Before meds. November, 2011

Over 200 lesions. bugs all over me, webs with balls all over my body, and enviroment has white floaters and clothing has lint a balls all over after wash. Car attacts me on every drive home.

Three months later............

*Feb. 2011, on Alcyclovir, but only recently(about 60 new sores rather than 200 with the, unknown at the time, mycelium growth all over skin especially around sores.) Lots of large plastic hypae in my bath water and emerginf from my skin.

3 months later...............

*May, 2011 About 20 lesions (smaller) with mycelium growth all over, medium size plastic hypae, and bugs are back.. At this time I realize I have a fungus and start antifugal diet.

3 monts later...............

*Late Sept.2011, One lesion on back nearly healed. On antifugal for 2 months at this point. Gray skin areas arising and disapppearing with soda baths and antifugal creams. The plastic hypae is still leaving my skin but is getting very tiny these days. Sometimes they leave in whole, sometimes they burst and mycelium tries to establish but fails with all that I am doing, and rarely I feel one turn from hard to soft beneth the skin and disolve.I find that any spores that make it to the surface of the skin try to establish risods. Few do, but the ones that do tend to establish in dead, scar tissue that doesn't seem to receive the medicine from the blood. Therefore I rub and rub these points until the risod pulls out. A dab of Tilex mold and mildew cleaner tends to heal the spot within days. Due to the fugus that re entered my car from storage visit around the last of July, I

periodiacally see the white floating fibers that indicate the feather winged beetle. I am vacuuming and spraying the car once a week. It is only after coming home in the car after work that I may pick some of these up during this latest 3 month hertzing moment(when my body is pushing yet another layer of fungus out). Irrigating my ears with MMS and a Lysol bath removes them and anti fungal liquid in my ears kills anything that got in.

Seems I am near ready for 3 months of no problems until around the end of December if this rythme is true. That's why I am holding out in posting for Kajay. Want all the facts as if I don't get the whole story, a newbie will be depressed when positive results occur and then the 3 month moment happens. I expect either a small reaction as yet another layer leaves or nothing at all as the antifunal medicine shall have been in my system for 5 months by December. With each rhythm cycle, problems are less each time.

This rythme would explain why bugs bother, then don't, then later bother again for a lot of people. I hope this helps someone. Does anyone else notice this rhythm?

Love and light,

Fri, 10/7/11, Goldstein@... <Goldstein@...> wrote:

From: Goldstein@... <Goldstein@...>Subject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbiesbird mites Date: Friday, October 7, 2011, 10:18 PM

Are you almost 100% ? I am hoping... for you.

From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 2:16:24 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbies

Hi Kajay,

I'll write when I know I am finally 100% cured. I see my Dr. on the 17th of the month. Hopefully, it won't be too much longer.

Love and light,

> >>Hi Kayjay >> >>Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's good too. Keep us posted! >> >>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might not deal with everything involved, it seems the safest route to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting

better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not taking a large enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now. >> >> I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons, including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is addressing some of these internal parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >> >>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks?

And after wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons, which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this disease struck. So many years later and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got another attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this somehow since I want to start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it > stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the

time, which I can easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them! >> >>Your thoughts? >> >>Thanks! >>Love >>Pdidit >> >> >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

,

If I start swelling anywhere, getting a headach, or have gray skin appear, I take a bath in the A & H Super Soda Wash. I feel fine when I get out. That stuff really pulls toxins out of the skin.

Love and light,

> >>Hi Kayjay >> >>Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's good too. Keep us posted! >> >>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might not deal with everything involved, it seems the safest route to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting

better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not taking a large enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now. >> >> I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons, including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is addressing some of these internal parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >> >>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks?

And after wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons, which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this disease struck. So many years later and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got another attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this somehow since I want to start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it > stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the

time, which I can easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them! >> >>Your thoughts? >> >>Thanks! >>Love >>Pdidit >> >> >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

That would be wonderful, . Si glad you are doing better.

Love,

kajay

On Fri Oct 7th, 2011 5:16 PM EDT Benton wrote:

>Hi Kajay,

> 

>    I'll write when I know I am finally 100% cured.  I see my Dr. on the 17th

of the month.  Hopefully, it won't be too much longer.

>Love and light,

>

> > >>Hi Kayjay >> >>Wanted to thank

you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked

out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so

good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's

good too. Keep us posted! >> >>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic

enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of

pathogens and might not deal with everything involved, it seems the safest route

to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting

better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how

to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am

not taking a large

> enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now. >> >> I am

waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be

impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I

have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few

years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on

my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons,

including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor

of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is

addressing some of these internal parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >>

>>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks? And after

wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons,

which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this

disease struck. So many years later

> and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a

magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I

also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit

cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for

some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got

another attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps

and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the

soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this

somehow since I want to start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it >

stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the time, which I can

easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them! >> >>Your thoughts?

>> >>Thanks! >>Love >>Pdidit >> >> >> >> >> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow. There is a lot for all of us to learn from this. Couple questions: are you

ready for me to post this as an almost there story and follow up later plus do

you want me to use your real first name or a fake one?

Thanks, and sending prayers,

kajay

On Sat Oct 8th, 2011 2:18 PM EDT Benton wrote:

>Kajay,

>   Here is what I wrote . 

> 

>

> 

>Hi ,

>    I'm seeing a pattern to hertzing with this.  I thought a noticed a 3 month

rhythm happening, and time has proven me correct.  Is it a rhythm of the body,

fungus, or ?...that I'm not sure of.  But every three months, I experience a lot

coming from my skin and then calm healing period until the next 3 month period. 

Before medications, it was a new crop of sore break outs followed by the return

of the bugs.  The last 9 months have provided this food for thought as I've paid

special attention: 

> 

>*  Before meds.  November, 2011

>Over 200 lesions.  bugs all over me, webs with balls all over my body, and

enviroment has white floaters and clothing has lint a balls all over after

wash.  Car attacts me on every drive home.

> 

>Three months later............   

> 

>*Feb. 2011, on Alcyclovir, but only recently(about 60 new sores rather than 200

with the, unknown at the time, mycelium growth all over skin especially around

sores.) Lots of large plastic hypae in my bath water and emerginf from my skin.

> 

>3 months later...............  

> 

>*May, 2011 About 20 lesions (smaller) with mycelium growth all over, medium

size plastic hypae, and bugs are back..  At this time I realize I have a fungus

and start antifugal diet.

> 

>3 monts later...............

> 

>*Late Sept.2011,  One lesion on back nearly healed.  On antifugal for 2

months at this point. Gray skin areas arising and disapppearing with soda baths

and antifugal creams.  The plastic hypae is still leaving my skin but is getting

very tiny these days.  Sometimes they leave in whole, sometimes they burst and

mycelium tries to establish but fails with all that I am doing, and rarely I

feel one turn from hard to soft beneth the skin and disolve.I find that any

spores that make it to the surface of the skin try to establish risods.  Few do,

but the ones that do tend to establish in dead, scar tissue that doesn't seem to

receive the medicine from the blood.  Therefore I rub and rub these points until

the risod pulls out.  A dab of Tilex mold and mildew cleaner tends to heal the

spot within days.  Due to the fugus that re entered my car from storage visit

around the last of July, I periodiacally see the white floating fibers that

indicate the

> feather winged beetle.  I am vacuuming and spraying the car once a week.  It

is only after coming home in the car after work that I may pick some of these up

during this latest 3 month hertzing moment(when my body is pushing yet another

layer of fungus out).  Irrigating my ears with MMS and a Lysol bath  removes

them and anti fungal liquid in my ears kills anything that got in. 

>    Seems I am near ready for 3 months of no problems until around the end of

December if this rythme is true.  That's why I am holding out in posting for

Kajay.  Want all the facts as if I don't get the whole story, a newbie will be

depressed when positive results occur and then the 3 month moment happens. I

expect either a small reaction as yet another layer leaves or nothing at all as

the antifunal medicine shall have been in my system for 5 months by December. 

With each rhythm cycle, problems are less each time.   

> 

>This rythme would explain why bugs bother, then don't, then later bother again

for a lot of people.  I hope this helps someone.  Does anyone else notice this

rhythm? 

> 

>Love and light,

>

>

> > >>Hi Kayjay >> >>Wanted to thank

you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked

out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so

good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's

good too. Keep us posted! >> >>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic

enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of

pathogens and might not deal with everything involved, it seems the safest route

to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting

better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how

to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am

not taking a large

> enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now. >> >> I am

waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be

impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I

have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few

years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on

my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons,

including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor

of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is

addressing some of these internal parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >>

>>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks? And after

wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons,

which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this

disease struck. So many years later

> and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a

magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I

also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit

cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for

some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got

another attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps

and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the

soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this

somehow since I want to start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it >

stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the time, which I can

easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them! >> >>Your thoughts?

>> >>Thanks! >>Love >>Pdidit >> >> >> >> >> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kajay,How is your mom doing? Hope she is not showing signs of Morgellons. I'm sending my best thoughts to you and her.From: "Kajay109" <kajay109@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 11:47:13 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbies

Wow. There is a lot for all of us to learn from this. Couple questions: are you ready for me to post this as an almost there story and follow up later plus do you want me to use your real first name or a fake one?

Thanks, and sending prayers,

kajay

On Sat Oct 8th, 2011 2:18 PM EDT Benton wrote:

>Kajay,

> Here is what I wrote .

>

>

>

>Hi ,

> I'm seeing a pattern to hertzing with this. I thought a noticed a 3 month rhythm happening, and time has proven me correct. Is it a rhythm of the body, fungus, or ?...that I'm not sure of. But every three months, I experience a lot coming from my skin and then calm healing period until the next 3 month period. Before medications, it was a new crop of sore break outs followed by the return of the bugs. The last 9 months have provided this food for thought as I've paid special attention:

>

>* Before meds. November, 2011

>Over 200 lesions. bugs all over me, webs with balls all over my body, and enviroment has white floaters and clothing has lint a balls all over after wash. Car attacts me on every drive home.

>

>Three months later............

>

>*Feb. 2011, on Alcyclovir, but only recently(about 60 new sores rather than 200 with the, unknown at the time, mycelium growth all over skin especially around sores.) Lots of large plastic hypae in my bath water and emerginf from my skin.

>

>3 months later...............

>

>*May, 2011 About 20 lesions (smaller) with mycelium growth all over, medium size plastic hypae, and bugs are back.. At this time I realize I have a fungus and start antifugal diet.

>

>3 monts later...............

>

>*Late Sept.2011, One lesion on back nearly healed. On antifugal for 2 months at this point. Gray skin areas arising and disapppearing with soda baths and antifugal creams. The plastic hypae is still leaving my skin but is getting very tiny these days. Sometimes they leave in whole, sometimes they burst and mycelium tries to establish but fails with all that I am doing, and rarely I feel one turn from hard to soft beneth the skin and disolve.I find that any spores that make it to the surface of the skin try to establish risods. Few do, but the ones that do tend to establish in dead, scar tissue that doesn't seem to receive the medicine from the blood. Therefore I rub and rub these points until the risod pulls out. A dab of Tilex mold and mildew cleaner tends to heal the spot within days. Due to the fugus that re entered my car from storage visit around the last of July, I periodiacally see the white floating fibers that indicate the

> feather winged beetle. I am vacuuming and spraying the car once a week. It is only after coming home in the car after work that I may pick some of these up during this latest 3 month hertzing moment(when my body is pushing yet another layer of fungus out). Irrigating my ears with MMS and a Lysol bath removes them and anti fungal liquid in my ears kills anything that got in.

> Seems I am near ready for 3 months of no problems until around the end of December if this rythme is true. That's why I am holding out in posting for Kajay. Want all the facts as if I don't get the whole story, a newbie will be depressed when positive results occur and then the 3 month moment happens. I expect either a small reaction as yet another layer leaves or nothing at all as the antifunal medicine shall have been in my system for 5 months by December. With each rhythm cycle, problems are less each time.

>

>This rythme would explain why bugs bother, then don't, then later bother again for a lot of people. I hope this helps someone. Does anyone else notice this rhythm?

>

>Love and light,

>

>

> > >>Hi Kayjay >> >>Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's good too. Keep us posted! >> >>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might not deal with everything involved, it seems the safest route to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not taking a large

> enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now. >> >> I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons, including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is addressing some of these internal parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >> >>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks? And after wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons, which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this disease struck. So many years later

> and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got another attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this somehow since I want to start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it > stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the time, which I can easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them! >> >>Your thoughts? >> >>Thanks! >>Love >>Pdidit >> >> >> >> >> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm hoping we caught it before it progressed to the organic level. She used the

F-6 spray for two weeks off and on (on her armsnearest only, tubbing it in) and

roughly 10 lesions have all disappeared and so far have not returned for a

couple of more weeks. Holding my breath as she declares she is done with it

since it is perishable. I think she would do it again if lesions returned,

though. She is stubborn but not stupid:-). Thank you for asking, .

Love, kajay

On Tue Oct 11th, 2011 11:19 AM EDT Goldstein@... wrote:

>Hi Kajay,

>

>

>How is your mom doing? Hope she is not showing signs of Morgellons. I'm sending

my best thoughts to you and her.

>

>

>

>

> Re: please send me your success stories and your

shortlist of advice for newbies

>

>

>

>

>

>

>Wow. There is a lot for all of us to learn from this. Couple questions: are you

ready for me to post this as an almost there story and follow up later plus do

you want me to use your real first name or a fake one?

>Thanks, and sending prayers,

>kajay

>

>On Sat Oct 8th, 2011 2:18 PM EDT Benton wrote:

>

>>Kajay,

>> Here is what I wrote .

>>

>>

>>

>>Hi ,

>> I'm seeing a pattern to hertzing with this. I thought a noticed a 3 month

rhythm happening, and time has proven me correct. Is it a rhythm of the body,

fungus, or ?...that I'm not sure of. But every three months, I experience a lot

coming from my skin and then calm healing period until the next 3 month period.

Before medications, it was a new crop of sore break outs followed by the return

of the bugs. The last 9 months have provided this food for thought as I've paid

special attention:

>>

>>* Before meds. November, 2011

>>Over 200 lesions. bugs all over me, webs with balls all over my body, and

enviroment has white floaters and clothing has lint a balls all over after wash.

Car attacts me on every drive home.

>>

>>Three months later............

>>

>>*Feb. 2011, on Alcyclovir, but only recently(about 60 new sores rather than

200 with the, unknown at the time, mycelium growth all over skin especially

around sores.) Lots of large plastic hypae in my bath water and emerginf from my

skin.

>>

>>3 months later...............

>>

>>*May, 2011 About 20 lesions (smaller) with mycelium growth all over, medium

size plastic hypae, and bugs are back.. At this time I realize I have a fungus

and start antifugal diet.

>>

>>3 monts later...............

>>

>>*Late Sept.2011, One lesion on back nearly healed. On antifugal for 2 months

at this point. Gray skin areas arising and disapppearing with soda baths and

antifugal creams. The plastic hypae is still leaving my skin but is getting very

tiny these days. Sometimes they leave in whole, sometimes they burst and

mycelium tries to establish but fails with all that I am doing, and rarely I

feel one turn from hard to soft beneth the skin and disolve.I find that any

spores that make it to the surface of the skin try to establish risods. Few do,

but the ones that do tend to establish in dead, scar tissue that doesn't seem to

receive the medicine from the blood. Therefore I rub and rub these points until

the risod pulls out. A dab of Tilex mold and mildew cleaner tends to heal the

spot within days. Due to the fugus that re entered my car from storage visit

around the last of July, I periodiacally see the white floating fibers that

indicate the

>> feather winged beetle. I am vacuuming and spraying the car once a week. It is

only after coming home in the car after work that I may pick some of these up

during this latest 3 month hertzing moment(when my body is pushing yet another

layer of fungus out). Irrigating my ears with MMS and a Lysol bath removes them

and anti fungal liquid in my ears kills anything that got in.

>> Seems I am near ready for 3 months of no problems until around the end of

December if this rythme is true. That's why I am holding out in posting for

Kajay. Want all the facts as if I don't get the whole story, a newbie will be

depressed when positive results occur and then the 3 month moment happens. I

expect either a small reaction as yet another layer leaves or nothing at all as

the antifunal medicine shall have been in my system for 5 months by December.

With each rhythm cycle, problems are less each time.

>>

>>This rythme would explain why bugs bother, then don't, then later bother again

for a lot of people. I hope this helps someone. Does anyone else notice this

rhythm?

>>

>>Love and light,

>>

>>

>> > >>Hi Kayjay >> >>Wanted to thank

you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked

out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so

good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's

good too. Keep us posted! >> >>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic

enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of

pathogens and might not deal with everything involved, it seems the safest route

to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting

better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how

to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am

not taking a large

>> enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now. >> >> I am

waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be

impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I

have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few

years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on

my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons,

including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor

of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is

addressing some of these internal parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >>

>>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks? And after

wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons,

which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this

disease struck. So many years later

>> and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a

magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I

also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit

cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for

some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got

another attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps

and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the

soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this

somehow since I want to start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it >

stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the time, which I can

easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them! >> >>Your thoughts?

>> >>Thanks! >>Love >>Pdidit >> >> >> >> >> >

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In case you should decide to write at morjella.com, I have registered you.

Your username is ayala and your password is 7d8s9a

Thanks,

kajay

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 8:47 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbies

I think I used every skin product and household cleaning product known to mankind. It calmed down the problems very temporarily. I went on the Paleo diet, did a lot of supplementation, sauna, baths, mms, almost everything really. Soaked my clothes for hours, stored all my belongings away for almost a year. Left my car for almost a year.

Treating Lyme, coinfections, and secondary infections is what resolved the bizarre skin issues and insects in my environment. Bartonella- Bactrim, Doxy, Ceftin, Levaquin; Babesia- Mepron, Malerone, Artemisinin, Bactrim; Mold- Itraconazole, Voriconazole, pao de arco, black walnut, caprylic acid, enzymes; other broad spectrum antimicrobials- Allicin, oregano oil, other essential oils

Also, Klinghardts protocol for KPU/HPU aka: kryptopyrroluria was key to detox and get immune system functioning.

A lot of the weird stuff coming out of the skin is different stages of fungus and biproducts from Bartonella.

On Oct 1, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

Aandraya, I know you have probably written and written about what you did. Do you have a shortlist somewhere of what you used that you are sure contributed to your recovery, preferably along with your strengths and dosages?

Thank you soo much,

kajay

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 2:54 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of

advice for newbies

I had the cigar shaped things, also amber colored seed shapes and a multitude of other strange objects. I could produce them by the hundreds with different skin topicals. I had the insects too, I had it all! It all cleared with Lyme/Bartonella/Babesia treatment- antibiotics, antifungals, antiparasiticals- both natural and pharmaceutical.

Weird stuff, I'm living proof it's treatable.

Aandraya

On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

Please please - I am too strapped for time to read all the old posts to find your key ones where you tell what got you well. Will you write me and let me know so I can share it at morjella.com also? If it worked for you it may work for others. That goes for any of you still here who are well now. Also, if anyone has written anything aimed specifically at those who are brand new and desperate, I would love to include that as well. The larger a footprint we have, the more easily people can find help, the quicker they can hit this hard and correctly, and get well. I do not wish my lengthy experience on anyone and am SO glad that the complete lack of information I faced when I got this is no longer the case. There is now so much information, there is really almost too much for someone to know what to buy, to choose. And

groups are powerful and immediate, but do not allow for the easy categorization of content by users. Blogs are the perfect format for that. Tim has a lot at birdmites.org, and I need to add a link to his home page at Morjella. I had all that at critterfiles, my group, and need to just move my links over to morjella, and any more you suggest.

BTW you can get the F-products direct from Gordon's Big Island Skin Care site, or if you forget the name, you can search for F-6 Restore at eBay, where it costs a few bucks more (think convenience store--but shipping is included for continental US). I haven't had time to add my other favorite products. Contacting vendors and negotiating arrangements is really time consuming, and it no longer seems so important or useful. I am thinking that at least Morgellons and hopefully soon Lyme and all the related conditions will soon be ancient history. That's my prayer, anyhow.

Bill, you left me a message about the cigar critters: Thank you for the suggestion about the Manuca (?) honey. My coworkers would probably like the smell of that better than oregano oil, garlic, and insect repellent, lol!

I am not certain, Bill, but I believe that Morgellons are a colony critter consisting of the cigars, teardrops, and globes. I think that the teardrops are the nurses, the cigars the queens and baby queens, and the globes the warriors. I THINK based on my shower experience and the fact that I began getting surface lesions AFTER my shower experience that Morgellons deliberately "farms" the bacteria that comprise biofilm--like humans farm livestock and produce--and that the matrix they construct of chitin attaches where the tougher skin fibers that form the diamond shapes we see under a microscope cross (think VietNam era "ripstop" fabric, that is, very light, cool fabric with a 1/4" nylon thread "grid" woven throughout to prevent the thin fabric from ripping so easily, that was used in USMC uniforms).

This is a slight update on my old "Farm Theory" article, which predated my reading an article on real research done relating to the "matrix" (I called it a "grid") and the biofilm (the gelatinous squares that emerged from my body after I used the chitinase solution in the shower, which I think must have dissolved the grid/matrix thus releasing the squares of biofilm, which I think must have been cultivated in a hammock like structure that hung from, or that was the, matrix.

As for how to get rid of them, I have dissolved cigar critters in povidone iodine (betadine), Simple Green, the organic chitinase solution, and Orange Plus. You can see some of those happen in my videos at youtube (search for "critterfiles"). The abbreviations after the video name tell you what was used to dissolve the critter in the videos where that happens. WGA is the chitinase solution (dissolved them through tht fifth day after culturation). BTD or BTN is betadine (dissolved them), BXA is borax (made them dance then go still but didn't dissolve them). On my body, though, I still find cigar critters more than the other forms. So maybe I'm headed for honey days!

Gordon dissolves them in his F-products, though I haven't put that to the microscope test. Also, though I still do occasionally check things out under my lighted portable microscope, my digital microscope quit working two computers ago, and I haven't replaced it - all I really need is a driver that works, but none I have tried work.

kajay / morjella.com

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:05 AMSubject: Re: I'm still here

That's it Doris. I am coming along swimmingly and just check the site to see what is going on and if I can help someone. I don't think I am going to order Duchy's as I've been able to keep the mites out via spraying Naylar at my windows and porch daily. Another 2 weeks of painting and I'll have the entire apartment sealed and fungus free. For me, the fungus is the calling card to mites and bugs.

Love and light,

> >>Hi Kayjay >> >>Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's good too. Keep us posted! >> >>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might not deal with everything

involved, it seems the safest route to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not taking a large enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now. >> >> I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons, including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is addressing some of these internal

parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >> >>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks? And after wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons, which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this disease struck. So many years later and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got another attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this somehow since I want to

start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it > stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the time, which I can easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them! >> >>Your thoughts? >> >>Thanks! >>Love >>Pdidit >> >> >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

Wow! Thanks Kajay for taking this on!Aandraya On Oct 18, 2011, at 12:30 AM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

In case you should decide to write at morjella.com, I have registered you.

Your username is ayala and your password is 7d8s9a

Thanks,

kajay

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 8:47 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbies

I think I used every skin product and household cleaning product known to mankind. It calmed down the problems very temporarily. I went on the Paleo diet, did a lot of supplementation, sauna, baths, mms, almost everything really. Soaked my clothes for hours, stored all my belongings away for almost a year. Left my car for almost a year.

Treating Lyme, coinfections, and secondary infections is what resolved the bizarre skin issues and insects in my environment. Bartonella- Bactrim, Doxy, Ceftin, Levaquin; Babesia- Mepron, Malerone, Artemisinin, Bactrim; Mold- Itraconazole, Voriconazole, pao de arco, black walnut, caprylic acid, enzymes; other broad spectrum antimicrobials- Allicin, oregano oil, other essential oils

Also, Klinghardts protocol for KPU/HPU aka: kryptopyrroluria was key to detox and get immune system functioning.

A lot of the weird stuff coming out of the skin is different stages of fungus and biproducts from Bartonella.

On Oct 1, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

Aandraya, I know you have probably written and written about what you did. Do you have a shortlist somewhere of what you used that you are sure contributed to your recovery, preferably along with your strengths and dosages?

Thank you soo much,

kajay

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 2:54 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of

advice for newbies

I had the cigar shaped things, also amber colored seed shapes and a multitude of other strange objects. I could produce them by the hundreds with different skin topicals. I had the insects too, I had it all! It all cleared with Lyme/Bartonella/Babesia treatment- antibiotics, antifungals, antiparasiticals- both natural and pharmaceutical.

Weird stuff, I'm living proof it's treatable.

Aandraya

On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

Please please - I am too strapped for time to read all the old posts to find your key ones where you tell what got you well. Will you write me and let me know so I can share it at morjella.com also? If it worked for you it may work for others. That goes for any of you still here who are well now. Also, if anyone has written anything aimed specifically at those who are brand new and desperate, I would love to include that as well. The larger a footprint we have, the more easily people can find help, the quicker they can hit this hard and correctly, and get well. I do not wish my lengthy experience on anyone and am SO glad that the complete lack of information I faced when I got this is no longer the case. There is now so much information, there is really almost too much for someone to know what to buy, to choose. And

groups are powerful and immediate, but do not allow for the easy categorization of content by users. Blogs are the perfect format for that. Tim has a lot at birdmites.org, and I need to add a link to his home page at Morjella. I had all that at critterfiles, my group, and need to just move my links over to morjella, and any more you suggest.

BTW you can get the F-products direct from Gordon's Big Island Skin Care site, or if you forget the name, you can search for F-6 Restore at eBay, where it costs a few bucks more (think convenience store--but shipping is included for continental US). I haven't had time to add my other favorite products. Contacting vendors and negotiating arrangements is really time consuming, and it no longer seems so important or useful. I am thinking that at least Morgellons and hopefully soon Lyme and all the related conditions will soon be ancient history. That's my prayer, anyhow.

Bill, you left me a message about the cigar critters: Thank you for the suggestion about the Manuca (?) honey. My coworkers would probably like the smell of that better than oregano oil, garlic, and insect repellent, lol!

I am not certain, Bill, but I believe that Morgellons are a colony critter consisting of the cigars, teardrops, and globes. I think that the teardrops are the nurses, the cigars the queens and baby queens, and the globes the warriors. I THINK based on my shower experience and the fact that I began getting surface lesions AFTER my shower experience that Morgellons deliberately "farms" the bacteria that comprise biofilm--like humans farm livestock and produce--and that the matrix they construct of chitin attaches where the tougher skin fibers that form the diamond shapes we see under a microscope cross (think VietNam era "ripstop" fabric, that is, very light, cool fabric with a 1/4" nylon thread "grid" woven throughout to prevent the thin fabric from ripping so easily, that was used in USMC uniforms).

This is a slight update on my old "Farm Theory" article, which predated my reading an article on real research done relating to the "matrix" (I called it a "grid") and the biofilm (the gelatinous squares that emerged from my body after I used the chitinase solution in the shower, which I think must have dissolved the grid/matrix thus releasing the squares of biofilm, which I think must have been cultivated in a hammock like structure that hung from, or that was the, matrix.

As for how to get rid of them, I have dissolved cigar critters in povidone iodine (betadine), Simple Green, the organic chitinase solution, and Orange Plus. You can see some of those happen in my videos at youtube (search for "critterfiles"). The abbreviations after the video name tell you what was used to dissolve the critter in the videos where that happens. WGA is the chitinase solution (dissolved them through tht fifth day after culturation). BTD or BTN is betadine (dissolved them), BXA is borax (made them dance then go still but didn't dissolve them). On my body, though, I still find cigar critters more than the other forms. So maybe I'm headed for honey days!

Gordon dissolves them in his F-products, though I haven't put that to the microscope test. Also, though I still do occasionally check things out under my lighted portable microscope, my digital microscope quit working two computers ago, and I haven't replaced it - all I really need is a driver that works, but none I have tried work.

kajay / morjella.com

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:05 AMSubject: Re: I'm still here

That's it Doris. I am coming along swimmingly and just check the site to see what is going on and if I can help someone. I don't think I am going to order Duchy's as I've been able to keep the mites out via spraying Naylar at my windows and porch daily. Another 2 weeks of painting and I'll have the entire apartment sealed and fungus free. For me, the fungus is the calling card to mites and bugs.

Love and light,

> >>Hi Kayjay >> >>Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's good too. Keep us posted! >> >>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might not deal with everything

involved, it seems the safest route to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not taking a large enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now. >> >> I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons, including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is addressing some of these internal

parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >> >>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks? And after wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons, which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this disease struck. So many years later and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got another attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this somehow since I want to

start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it > stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the time, which I can easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them! >> >>Your thoughts? >> >>Thanks! >>Love >>Pdidit >> >> >> >> >> >

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From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:46 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbies

Wow! Thanks Kajay for taking this on!

Aandraya

On Oct 18, 2011, at 12:30 AM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

In case you should decide to write at morjella.com, I have registered you.

Your username is ayala and your password is 7d8s9a

Thanks,

kajay

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 8:47 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice

for newbies

I think I used every skin product and household cleaning product known to mankind. It calmed down the problems very temporarily. I went on the Paleo diet, did a lot of supplementation, sauna, baths, mms, almost everything really. Soaked my clothes for hours, stored all my belongings away for almost a year. Left my car for almost a year.

Treating Lyme, coinfections, and secondary infections is what resolved the bizarre skin issues and insects in my environment. Bartonella- Bactrim, Doxy, Ceftin, Levaquin; Babesia- Mepron, Malerone, Artemisinin, Bactrim; Mold- Itraconazole, Voriconazole, pao de arco, black walnut, caprylic acid, enzymes; other broad spectrum antimicrobials- Allicin, oregano oil, other essential oils

Also, Klinghardts protocol for KPU/HPU aka: kryptopyrroluria was key to detox and get immune system functioning.

A lot of the weird stuff coming out of the skin is different stages of fungus and biproducts from Bartonella.

On Oct 1, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

Aandraya, I know you have probably written and written about what you did. Do you have a shortlist somewhere of what you used that you are sure contributed to your recovery, preferably along with your strengths and dosages?

Thank you soo much,

kajay

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 2:54 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbies

I had the cigar shaped things, also amber colored seed shapes and a multitude of other strange objects. I could produce them by the hundreds with different skin topicals. I had the insects too, I had it all! It all cleared with Lyme/Bartonella/Babesia treatment- antibiotics, antifungals, antiparasiticals- both natural and pharmaceutical.

Weird stuff, I'm living proof it's treatable.

Aandraya

On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

Please please - I am too strapped for time to read all the old posts to find your key ones where you tell what got you well. Will you write me and let me know so I can share it at morjella.com also? If it worked for you it may work for others. That goes for any of you still here who are well now. Also, if anyone has written anything aimed specifically at those who are brand new and desperate, I would love to include that as well. The larger a footprint we have, the more easily people can find help, the quicker they can hit this hard and correctly, and get well. I do not wish my lengthy experience on anyone and am SO glad that the complete lack of information I faced when I got this is no longer the case. There is now so much information, there is really almost

too much for someone to know what to buy, to choose. And are powerful and immediate, but do not allow for the easy categorization of content by users. Blogs are the perfect format for that. Tim has a lot at birdmites.org, and I need to add a link to his home page at Morjella. I had all that at critterfiles, my group, and need to just move my links over to morjella, and any more you suggest.

BTW you can get the F-products direct from Gordon's Big Island Skin Care site, or if you forget the name, you can search for F-6 Restore at eBay, where it costs a few bucks more (think convenience store--but shipping is included for continental US). I haven't had time to add my other favorite products. Contacting vendors and negotiating arrangements is really time consuming, and it no longer seems so important or useful. I am thinking that at least Morgellons and hopefully soon Lyme and all the related conditions will soon be ancient history. That's my prayer, anyhow.

Bill, you left me a message about the cigar critters: Thank you for the suggestion about the Manuca (?) honey. My coworkers would probably like the smell of that better than oregano oil, garlic, and insect repellent, lol!

I am not certain, Bill, but I believe that Morgellons are a colony critter consisting of the cigars, teardrops, and globes. I think that the teardrops are the nurses, the cigars the queens and baby queens, and the globes the warriors. I THINK based on my shower experience and the fact that I began getting surface lesions AFTER my shower experience that Morgellons deliberately "farms" the bacteria that comprise biofilm--like humans farm livestock and produce--and that the matrix they construct of chitin attaches where the tougher skin fibers that form the diamond shapes we see under a microscope cross (think VietNam era "ripstop" fabric, that is, very light, cool fabric with a 1/4" nylon thread "grid" woven throughout to prevent the thin fabric from ripping so easily, that was used in USMC uniforms).

This is a slight update on my old "Farm Theory" article, which predated my reading an article on real research done relating to the "matrix" (I called it a "grid") and the biofilm (the gelatinous squares that emerged from my body after I used the chitinase solution in the shower, which I think must have dissolved the grid/matrix thus releasing the squares of biofilm, which I think must have been cultivated in a hammock like structure that hung from, or that was the, matrix.

As for how to get rid of them, I have dissolved cigar critters in povidone iodine (betadine), Simple Green, the organic chitinase solution, and Orange Plus. You can see some of those happen in my videos at youtube (search for "critterfiles"). The abbreviations after the video name tell you what was used to dissolve the critter in the videos where that happens. WGA is the chitinase solution (dissolved them through tht fifth day after culturation). BTD or BTN is betadine (dissolved them), BXA is borax (made them dance then go still but didn't dissolve them). On my body, though, I still find cigar critters more than the other forms. So maybe I'm headed for honey days!

Gordon dissolves them in his F-products, though I haven't put that to the microscope test. Also, though I still do occasionally check things out under my lighted portable microscope, my digital microscope quit working two computers ago, and I haven't replaced it - all I really need is a driver that works, but none I have tried work.

kajay / morjella.com

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:05 AMSubject: Re: I'm still here

That's it Doris. I am coming along swimmingly and just check the site to see what is going on and if I can help someone. I don't think I am going to order Duchy's as I've been able to keep the mites out via spraying Naylar at my windows and porch daily. Another 2 weeks of painting and I'll have the entire apartment sealed and fungus free. For me, the fungus is the calling card to mites and bugs.

Love and light,

> >>Hi Kayjay >> >>Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's good too. Keep us posted! >> >>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might not deal with everything

involved, it seems the safest route to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not taking a large enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now. >> >> I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons, including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is addressing some of these internal

parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >> >>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks? And after wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons, which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this disease struck. So many years later and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got another attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this somehow since I want to

start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it > stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the time, which I can easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them! >> >>Your thoughts? >> >>Thanks! >>Love >>Pdidit >> >> >> >> >> >

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oops. changed your password, will send new one privately :-)

kajay

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:46 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbies

Wow! Thanks Kajay for taking this on!

Aandraya

On Oct 18, 2011, at 12:30 AM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

In case you should decide to write at morjella.com, I have registered you.

Your username is ayala and your password is 7d8s9a

Thanks,

kajay

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 8:47 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice

for newbies

I think I used every skin product and household cleaning product known to mankind. It calmed down the problems very temporarily. I went on the Paleo diet, did a lot of supplementation, sauna, baths, mms, almost everything really. Soaked my clothes for hours, stored all my belongings away for almost a year. Left my car for almost a year.

Treating Lyme, coinfections, and secondary infections is what resolved the bizarre skin issues and insects in my environment. Bartonella- Bactrim, Doxy, Ceftin, Levaquin; Babesia- Mepron, Malerone, Artemisinin, Bactrim; Mold- Itraconazole, Voriconazole, pao de arco, black walnut, caprylic acid, enzymes; other broad spectrum antimicrobials- Allicin, oregano oil, other essential oils

Also, Klinghardts protocol for KPU/HPU aka: kryptopyrroluria was key to detox and get immune system functioning.

A lot of the weird stuff coming out of the skin is different stages of fungus and biproducts from Bartonella.

On Oct 1, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

Aandraya, I know you have probably written and written about what you did. Do you have a shortlist somewhere of what you used that you are sure contributed to your recovery, preferably along with your strengths and dosages?

Thank you soo much,

kajay

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 2:54 PMSubject: Re: please send me your success stories and your shortlist of advice for newbies

I had the cigar shaped things, also amber colored seed shapes and a multitude of other strange objects. I could produce them by the hundreds with different skin topicals. I had the insects too, I had it all! It all cleared with Lyme/Bartonella/Babesia treatment- antibiotics, antifungals, antiparasiticals- both natural and pharmaceutical.

Weird stuff, I'm living proof it's treatable.

Aandraya

On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

Please please - I am too strapped for time to read all the old posts to find your key ones where you tell what got you well. Will you write me and let me know so I can share it at morjella.com also? If it worked for you it may work for others. That goes for any of you still here who are well now. Also, if anyone has written anything aimed specifically at those who are brand new and desperate, I would love to include that as well. The larger a footprint we have, the more easily people can find help, the quicker they can hit this hard and correctly, and get well. I do not wish my lengthy experience on anyone and am SO glad that the complete lack of information I faced when I got this is no longer the case. There is now so much information, there is really almost

too much for someone to know what to buy, to choose. And are powerful and immediate, but do not allow for the easy categorization of content by users. Blogs are the perfect format for that. Tim has a lot at birdmites.org, and I need to add a link to his home page at Morjella. I had all that at critterfiles, my group, and need to just move my links over to morjella, and any more you suggest.

BTW you can get the F-products direct from Gordon's Big Island Skin Care site, or if you forget the name, you can search for F-6 Restore at eBay, where it costs a few bucks more (think convenience store--but shipping is included for continental US). I haven't had time to add my other favorite products. Contacting vendors and negotiating arrangements is really time consuming, and it no longer seems so important or useful. I am thinking that at least Morgellons and hopefully soon Lyme and all the related conditions will soon be ancient history. That's my prayer, anyhow.

Bill, you left me a message about the cigar critters: Thank you for the suggestion about the Manuca (?) honey. My coworkers would probably like the smell of that better than oregano oil, garlic, and insect repellent, lol!

I am not certain, Bill, but I believe that Morgellons are a colony critter consisting of the cigars, teardrops, and globes. I think that the teardrops are the nurses, the cigars the queens and baby queens, and the globes the warriors. I THINK based on my shower experience and the fact that I began getting surface lesions AFTER my shower experience that Morgellons deliberately "farms" the bacteria that comprise biofilm--like humans farm livestock and produce--and that the matrix they construct of chitin attaches where the tougher skin fibers that form the diamond shapes we see under a microscope cross (think VietNam era "ripstop" fabric, that is, very light, cool fabric with a 1/4" nylon thread "grid" woven throughout to prevent the thin fabric from ripping so easily, that was used in USMC uniforms).

This is a slight update on my old "Farm Theory" article, which predated my reading an article on real research done relating to the "matrix" (I called it a "grid") and the biofilm (the gelatinous squares that emerged from my body after I used the chitinase solution in the shower, which I think must have dissolved the grid/matrix thus releasing the squares of biofilm, which I think must have been cultivated in a hammock like structure that hung from, or that was the, matrix.

As for how to get rid of them, I have dissolved cigar critters in povidone iodine (betadine), Simple Green, the organic chitinase solution, and Orange Plus. You can see some of those happen in my videos at youtube (search for "critterfiles"). The abbreviations after the video name tell you what was used to dissolve the critter in the videos where that happens. WGA is the chitinase solution (dissolved them through tht fifth day after culturation). BTD or BTN is betadine (dissolved them), BXA is borax (made them dance then go still but didn't dissolve them). On my body, though, I still find cigar critters more than the other forms. So maybe I'm headed for honey days!

Gordon dissolves them in his F-products, though I haven't put that to the microscope test. Also, though I still do occasionally check things out under my lighted portable microscope, my digital microscope quit working two computers ago, and I haven't replaced it - all I really need is a driver that works, but none I have tried work.

kajay / morjella.com

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:05 AMSubject: Re: I'm still here

That's it Doris. I am coming along swimmingly and just check the site to see what is going on and if I can help someone. I don't think I am going to order Duchy's as I've been able to keep the mites out via spraying Naylar at my windows and porch daily. Another 2 weeks of painting and I'll have the entire apartment sealed and fungus free. For me, the fungus is the calling card to mites and bugs.

Love and light,

> >>Hi Kayjay >> >>Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5 product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising results and that's good too. Keep us posted! >> >>I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally; while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might not deal with everything

involved, it seems the safest route to go until we know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting better, but then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to report about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not taking a large enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right now. >> >> I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons, including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is addressing some of these internal

parasites and agrobacteria that we have? >> >>Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks? And after wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons, which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this disease struck. So many years later and am still dealing with this! These flying critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for some part of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got another attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around this somehow since I want to

start an exercise program wearing running shoes. As it > stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the time, which I can easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them! >> >>Your thoughts? >> >>Thanks! >>Love >>Pdidit >> >> >> >> >> >

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How are you , what's the latest. I am fine , I still get bit once in a while &

I just apply some peroxide borax & water mix

Here is some sucess stories I cannot not forget

air matress totally clan & gug dree with 2 tbls coconut oil & 48 oz of wot water

sprayed on the airmatress & the hard floor , bug can't walk thru it

jill I I wrote them to Elissa , I repasted it here :

..........

Hi Elissa

I saw your stress and procedures , I had the same thing . I can feel for you .

It is bad.

Pray very gard to God He is wonderful & a very present help in times of

trouble. ..

Here is what one poster named Rita found helped her quickly

Benzyl peroxide : buy from

http://www.danielkern.com/category-s/22.htm

She used it on her skin & it worked fast , here a couple of her posts re-

pasted here

By the way Elissa

soaking will remove bugs out of the skin ., it takes time though Powdered

Laundry Detergent 1 cup per bath tub & soak for 30 mins works wonders , it is

painless & kills all the bug , . Seems the benzol peroxide worked fast for Rita

, Rita now uses coconut oil, I use it too I put 2 tbls in the bathtub of water

then dip in & under for 5-10 mins . Since I used coconut oil in the bathwater

it has been almost 2 years since I felt crawling. Praise God ! ( Borax 1 gup per

3 gallons of water on a towell applied for 30 mins 2 time per day will draw out

& kill anything ,eventually . The face can only stan 1.5 tbls per gallon of

water on a cloth, the face is to sensitive for any more of a concentration of

borax .

OK here are:

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From: Rush Tessman

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Date: Mon Jul 06 13:25:02 2009

Rita,

I just ordered som more of the BP, I had a doctors appointment this am, and

also it is raining--so far I have felt really good with it on, I hope it

stays--oh god please let it!! Oh, and mine is lotion--do they make a gel??

From: Rita and Mike Carlson <m.r.carlson@ comcast.net> bird mites@

groups. com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 11:16:13 AM Subject: Re:

Re: I'm clear..? Well.. for a few days

Hi ....... ..I have tried many products on my skin over that last...well

going on 4 years now. The very best product that we have used is the Benzoyl

Peroxide. This gel has workedso very fast, clearedour skin within days and has

left me dumb founded. I have wished for so long now that I had known about this

gel when I first came in contact with this skin mess.. I'm afraid to report that

the Boric Acid and the BP doesn't seem to work as fast for people who are seeing

those little " flying " things around them and in their home. I have never seen

anything flying so as with everything, give it a try for a few months and if you

notice that the things are getting fewer and fewer in numbers than you might be

on the right track. Trial and error seems to be the norm with this and I hope

and pray that you will see eradication like we have. The BP will make your skin

worse off in the first few weeks. It's hard to get

through those weeks because of the flaking. We had to use Vaseline to go out in

public but just like the site says in the videos our skin stopped flaking after

a couple of weeks and looks totally clear and smooth. Every where I had the

" things " on my skin the flaking was extremely bad. Seemed the kill was instant

with the BP. I hope you see success with these new treatments. Keep in touch and

I will do the same. Wishing to loads and loads of luck. Rita

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Re: Benzoyl Peroxide seems to kill mites on the skin

From: buggeredbymites

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Date: Fri May 01 19:59:32 2009

The rational makes sense: Open the pores, then blast the buggers out with a

deadly dessicant like BP. this is similar to the principal of sulfur combined

with oils which drive them out for air, where they then meet their demise via

the hands of an effective drying agent. I like the speedy, one-two punch

approach these topicals afford. No point in dragging this crap out any longer

than necessary.

>

> Holly, when I heard about this being used on the skin I ordered some to have

on hand when we start to work in our yard this spring. People who have used this

put it on just like lotion. The young man who first used this put it all over

his body, scalp, groin every where. He even used it on his dogs. Then I heard

from several other people who had killed the " mites " on their skin with it. All

had used the Roach Prufe in their house and cars. The BP that we ordered is a

clear lotion. From what I have read the BP blast the pores open and kills all

bacteria that is on the skin. The drying effect must kill the mites. Some have

said all crawling and itching stopped the first day and night they used it.

Seems to take about a week to completely get all the pores clear. My husband has

tried this lotion once on his legs. He put it on after going to the VA clinic

where he could feel the things trying to get back on him. One application of the

BP and he never felt

the things on his skin again. It sure seemed to work quickly and had a 100%

kill effect. This is the site I ordered mine from.

http://www.danielkern.com/category-s/22.htm This used in conjunction with the

Roach Prufe has been the silver bullet for some. Rita

>

2.

link to buy

8 oz. Treatment Price $16.52

I made this 2.5% benzoyl peroxide acne treatment to be gel based so it goes on

clear and spreads easily. It's also pharmaceutical grade, pH balanced, fragrance

free, and dye free. It won't " clump up " with moisturizers, and won't turn white

when you perspire. I created it especially for the Acne.org Regimen. Studies

show that 2.5% benzoyl peroxide works as well as 10% solutions, without the

excessive dryness and irritation. View a video on how to get the most product

possible out of the bottle.

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Update from z3Sat Sep 10th, 2011 1:06 PM EDT

Hi all,It's been several months now since my husband and I have had any symptoms

at all. We've have people at our home all summer and been gradually letting go

of all the rituals to prevent mite bites and kill them. Our clothing is back in

our dressers, we sleep in our bed as we did previous to the bird mite

infestation.We will never know if the bite mites are gone for good... because it

is a mysterious situation to say the least. They gradually disappeared from our

lives over time. The last bite I had was in my car ~6 months ago.So we suffered

from mysterious microscopic clear bird mites for 2 1/2 years in total. They

lived in our home and we seemed to leave a trail of them where ever we went. The

most horrifying part was that they infected us with some microorganism which

attracted biting bites to us where ever we went. It was just like having

scabies except that it didn't go away with medical tx and the bites never bite

us in the places where

scabies bite and the bites rarely even itched. Instead the bites were like the

prick of a sharp needle and left what looked like tiny red hard spider bites all

over our bodies, which frequently lasted for months and months. Something about

1 bite seemed to attack more bites to the area. We had several of these bites

biopsied because the MD's were concerned it may be a contagious folliculiis

rather than mites. 4 out of 4 biopsies over 2 years came back as bites.So what

may have helped us beat this mite mare:* Months of doxycycline 3 times per day,

alternated with Months of Bactim DS 2 times per day* Spraying white vinegar and

then spraying hydrogen peroxide on the bites frequently.* Rubbing benzyl

peroxide into our skin every place where bites had been until completely

healed.* Sterifab on things that could not be treated with vinegar, then

peroxide, * Sterilizing every possible part of our house and car every way

possible for over 2 years.*Colon

cleanses 1 time a month*Ironing all clothes and linens after washing*Stick

carpet tape around bedWhat did not help:* Diet changes (only temporary help, no

lasting help)* Supplements (only temporary help, no lasting help)* Dr.

Staninger's protocol (HUGE waste of money and energy/time)*IR saunas* Roache

Proof* Internal vinegar* Internal baking powder*homeopathics (only temporary

help, not a cure)*Baths with different cures (only temporary)* a million other

things tried because we followed every possible suggestion no matter how

expensive or time consuming*heating the house (temporary)* CO2 in the cars

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Elissa Rits suffered for 5 year , I was right there on the forums when she

started , I was miserable . It was hard. We tried many many many things , I use

sulfur creme a lot

1 tsp sulfur

1tsp coconut oil place in a small dishsoap bottle & shake for 10 seconds , then

add

8 teasp of healthy hand creme like 365 brand from Whole foods , any hand creme

will do , healty is better , mineral oil is is perto product & is the byproduct

of making gasoline , it is bad for the body , espesially total body coverage.

I then used this mix , it stopped all bugs on the skin & in the environment

The mix:

2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster

16 oz peroxide (3%)

32 oz water.

mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide, it is painless & there is no

fizz or pain on the skin .

I used this mix top of head to toe for 19 days , it stopped all bugs & cures all

cuts & bites ,

Then I used Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent 1 cup per bath tun , it is

painless & kills all the bug , soaking will remove bugs out of the skin ., it

takes time though. Seems the benzol peroxide worked fast for Rita , Rita now

uses coconut oil, I use it too I put 2 tbls in the bathtub of water then dip

in & under for 5-10 mins . Since I did thei it has been almost 2 years since I

felt crawling. Praise God !

God bless you ,

Bill

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Kajay/katiejill

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 2:24 AM EST Doe wrote:

>Hi jill

>

> How are you , what's the latest. I am fine , I still get bit once in a while &

I just apply some peroxide borax & water mix

>

> Here is some sucess stories I cannot not forget

>

>air matress totally clan & gug dree with 2 tbls coconut oil & 48 oz of wot

water sprayed on the airmatress & the hard floor , bug can't walk thru it

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>

>jill I I wrote them to Elissa , I repasted it here :

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>.........

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>Hi Elissa

>

> I saw your stress and procedures , I had the same thing . I can feel for you .

It is bad.

> Pray very gard to God He is wonderful & a very present help in times of

trouble. ..

>

> Here is what one poster named Rita found helped her quickly

>Benzyl peroxide : buy from

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>http://www.danielkern.com/category-s/22.htm

>

> She used it on her skin & it worked fast , here a couple of her posts re-

pasted here

>

>By the way Elissa

>soaking will remove bugs out of the skin ., it takes time though Powdered

Laundry Detergent 1 cup per bath tub & soak for 30 mins works wonders , it is

painless & kills all the bug , . Seems the benzol peroxide worked fast for Rita

, Rita now uses coconut oil, I use it too I put 2 tbls in the bathtub of water

then dip in & under for 5-10 mins . Since I used coconut oil in the bathwater

it has been almost 2 years since I felt crawling. Praise God ! ( Borax 1 gup per

3 gallons of water on a towell applied for 30 mins 2 time per day will draw out

& kill anything ,eventually . The face can only stan 1.5 tbls per gallon of

water on a cloth, the face is to sensitive for any more of a concentration of

borax .

>

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> THE RE-PASTED POSTS FRON RITA :

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>Re: Re: I'm clear..? Well.. for a few days

>From: Rush Tessman

>bird mites

> Date: Mon Jul 06 13:25:02 2009

>Rita,

>

> I just ordered som more of the BP, I had a doctors appointment this am, and

also it is raining--so far I have felt really good with it on, I hope it

stays--oh god please let it!! Oh, and mine is lotion--do they make a gel??

>

> From: Rita and Mike Carlson <m.r.carlson@ comcast.net> bird mites@

groups. com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 11:16:13 AM Subject: Re:

Re: I'm clear..? Well.. for a few days

>

> Hi ....... ..I have tried many products on my skin over that last...well

going on 4 years now. The very best product that we have used is the Benzoyl

Peroxide. This gel has workedso very fast, clearedour skin within days and has

left me dumb founded. I have wished for so long now that I had known about this

gel when I first came in contact with this skin mess.. I'm afraid to report that

the Boric Acid and the BP doesn't seem to work as fast for people who are seeing

those little " flying " things around them and in their home. I have never seen

anything flying so as with everything, give it a try for a few months and if you

notice that the things are getting fewer and fewer in numbers than you might be

on the right track. Trial and error seems to be the norm with this and I hope

and pray that you will see eradication like we have. The BP will make your skin

worse off in the first few weeks. It's hard to get

> through those weeks because of the flaking. We had to use Vaseline to go out

in public but just like the site says in the videos our skin stopped flaking

after a couple of weeks and looks totally clear and smooth. Every where I had

the " things " on my skin the flaking was extremely bad. Seemed the kill was

instant with the BP. I hope you see success with these new treatments. Keep in

touch and I will do the same. Wishing to loads and loads of luck. Rita

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> Re: Benzoyl Peroxide seems to kill mites on the skin

>From: buggeredbymites

>bird mites

> Date: Fri May 01 19:59:32 2009

>The rational makes sense: Open the pores, then blast the buggers out with a

deadly dessicant like BP. this is similar to the principal of sulfur combined

with oils which drive them out for air, where they then meet their demise via

the hands of an effective drying agent. I like the speedy, one-two punch

approach these topicals afford. No point in dragging this crap out any longer

than necessary.

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>> Holly, when I heard about this being used on the skin I ordered some to have

on hand when we start to work in our yard this spring. People who have used this

put it on just like lotion. The young man who first used this put it all over

his body, scalp, groin every where. He even used it on his dogs. Then I heard

from several other people who had killed the " mites " on their skin with it. All

had used the Roach Prufe in their house and cars. The BP that we ordered is a

clear lotion. From what I have read the BP blast the pores open and kills all

bacteria that is on the skin. The drying effect must kill the mites. Some have

said all crawling and itching stopped the first day and night they used it.

Seems to take about a week to completely get all the pores clear. My husband has

tried this lotion once on his legs. He put it on after going to the VA clinic

where he could feel the things trying to get back on him. One application of the

BP and he never felt

> the things on his skin again. It sure seemed to work quickly and had a 100%

kill effect. This is the site I ordered mine from.

http://www.danielkern.com/category-s/22.htm This used in conjunction with the

Roach Prufe has been the silver bullet for some. Rita

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>8 oz. Treatment Price $16.52

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>I made this 2.5% benzoyl peroxide acne treatment to be gel based so it goes on

clear and spreads easily. It's also pharmaceutical grade, pH balanced, fragrance

free, and dye free. It won't " clump up " with moisturizers, and won't turn white

when you perspire. I created it especially for the Acne.org Regimen. Studies

show that 2.5% benzoyl peroxide works as well as 10% solutions, without the

excessive dryness and irritation. View a video on how to get the most product

possible out of the bottle.

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>Hi all,It's been several months now since my husband and I have had any

symptoms at all. We've have people at our home all summer and been gradually

letting go of all the rituals to prevent mite bites and kill them. Our clothing

is back in our dressers, we sleep in our bed as we did previous to the bird mite

infestation.We will never know if the bite mites are gone for good... because it

is a mysterious situation to say the least. They gradually disappeared from our

lives over time. The last bite I had was in my car ~6 months ago.So we suffered

from mysterious microscopic clear bird mites for 2 1/2 years in total. They

lived in our home and we seemed to leave a trail of them where ever we went. The

most horrifying part was that they infected us with some microorganism which

attracted biting bites to us where ever we went. It was just like having

scabies except that it didn't go away with medical tx and the bites never bite

us in the places where

> scabies bite and the bites rarely even itched. Instead the bites were like the

prick of a sharp needle and left what looked like tiny red hard spider bites all

over our bodies, which frequently lasted for months and months. Something about

1 bite seemed to attack more bites to the area. We had several of these bites

biopsied because the MD's were concerned it may be a contagious folliculiis

rather than mites. 4 out of 4 biopsies over 2 years came back as bites.So what

may have helped us beat this mite mare:* Months of doxycycline 3 times per day,

alternated with Months of Bactim DS 2 times per day* Spraying white vinegar and

then spraying hydrogen peroxide on the bites frequently.* Rubbing benzyl

peroxide into our skin every place where bites had been until completely

healed.* Sterifab on things that could not be treated with vinegar, then

peroxide, * Sterilizing every possible part of our house and car every way

possible for over 2 years.*Colon

> cleanses 1 time a month*Ironing all clothes and linens after washing*Stick

carpet tape around bedWhat did not help:* Diet changes (only temporary help, no

lasting help)* Supplements (only temporary help, no lasting help)* Dr.

Staninger's protocol (HUGE waste of money and energy/time)*IR saunas* Roache

Proof* Internal vinegar* Internal baking powder*homeopathics (only temporary

help, not a cure)*Baths with different cures (only temporary)* a million other

things tried because we followed every possible suggestion no matter how

expensive or time consuming*heating the house (temporary)* CO2 in the cars

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>Elissa Rits suffered for 5 year , I was right there on the forums when she

started , I was miserable . It was hard. We tried many many many things , I use

sulfur creme a lot

>1 tsp sulfur

>1tsp coconut oil place in a small dishsoap bottle & shake for 10 seconds ,

then add

>8 teasp of healthy hand creme like 365 brand from Whole foods , any hand creme

will do , healty is better , mineral oil is is perto product & is the byproduct

of making gasoline , it is bad for the body , espesially total body coverage.

> I then used this mix , it stopped all bugs on the skin & in the environment

>

>The mix:

> 2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster

>16 oz peroxide (3%)

> 32 oz water.

>mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide, it is painless & there is no

fizz or pain on the skin .

>

>I used this mix top of head to toe for 19 days , it stopped all bugs & cures

all cuts & bites ,

>

>Then I used Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent 1 cup per bath tun , it is

painless & kills all the bug , soaking will remove bugs out of the skin ., it

takes time though. Seems the benzol peroxide worked fast for Rita , Rita now

uses coconut oil, I use it too I put 2 tbls in the bathtub of water then dip

in & under for 5-10 mins . Since I did thei it has been almost 2 years since I

felt crawling. Praise God !

>

>

>

>

>

>God bless you ,

>

>

>Bill

>Sent from my Treo

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