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Dear Dick,

I doubt that ozone is more active at higher temperatures.

Ozone is converted back to oxygen by heat, so the concentration

falls over time (and distance).

In water cleaning, ozone is employed at near 4 degrees C, which is

very cold, and it has no problem in doing its job very thoroughly, and

at very low concentrations (1 ug/ml).

Because of sweat flushing outward in the body's reaction to heat stress,

more unoxidized toxins are carried to the skin with the ozone sauna than

other methods. This accounts for the markedly higher incidence and intensity

of the red rash, compared to other transdermal methods (such as limb

bagging).

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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From: " bjs17792001 " <bjs17792001@...>

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oxyplus

Subject: Re: rash

Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 00:55:31 -0000

> Dick,

>

> Thanks for responding. Actually I keep my legs pulled up to get

the full

> effect of the heat. My legs are actually HOTTER than the rest of

my body because

> I have them positioned so the steam actually sprays on them - hot

hot hot.

> And I funnel over the legs. STILL the rash is mostly on upper

body. I wonder

> if there is something else going on here?

Is it possible that the steam is blowing the ozone away from your

legs? At what point does the rash stop on your uppper arms in

relation to your upper body? Is it a sweat gland issue, or a fat

issue that varies with each person. Nobody knows for sure I think.

>

> Also when you said ozone is more reactive on hot skin, what do you

mean by

> " reactive " ?

Ozone by definition is a corrosive. I know of no acid or alkaline

that is not more active in higher temperatures. I only assume the

same holds true with ozone.

Dick

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In a message dated 10/15/2003 11:15:10 PM Central Standard Time,

thezoostore@... writes:

> Has anyone had any trouble with rashes since having the GRDS? I am

> about 7 weeks post-op and have been having rashes, very itchy ones,

> pop up on my body. I have been to my local DR but the itching goes

> on and he dosent seem to concerned about it. He has prescribed

> various creams but none seem to control the itch. I haven't been

> geting much sleep becuase of it and it's really starting to drain

> me. I can't figure out if it's food related or if something else is

> going on.

>

Randy,

Funny you should ask...I have been clawing my arms and head for the

last week. It's not on the rest of my body.....I have been taking some benadryl

to keep it under control, but it's making me miserable!

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Randy,

I have had an ongoing rash since I was about 3 months post op. It is

mostly on the sides of my face and my chest. Mine however does NOT

itch. It is just annoying. I have tried oodles of things to get rid

of it - nothing has worked. NOw that I am done losing weight it has

settled down quite a bit and I am no longer bothered by it too much.

hugs, cindy lee in fort worth texa

> Has anyone had any trouble with rashes since having the GRDS? I am

> about 7 weeks post-op and have been having rashes, very itchy ones,

> pop up on my body. I have been to my local DR but the itching goes

> on and he dosent seem to concerned about it. He has prescribed

> various creams but none seem to control the itch. I haven't been

> geting much sleep becuase of it and it's really starting to drain

> me. I can't figure out if it's food related or if something else

is

> going on.

>

> Randy

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Megagentic is one of the best brands as far as high powered

Probiotic's. Some compounding Pharmacies sell it, comes in

powered form to sprinkle on food or in capsules.

> My doctor really

> stresses lots of probiotics.

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Megagentic is one of the best brands as far as high powered

Probiotic's. Some compounding Pharmacies sell it, comes in

powered form to sprinkle on food or in capsules.

> My doctor really

> stresses lots of probiotics.

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> Hi everyone......I still don't have a rash!!......I've been doing

ozone body suit and sauna's for a few weeks now......and doing more

than what is reccommended and I still have no sign of a rash......my

ozone is very strong.....burns a hole in a latex glove in about 1

second...........any suggestions?.........Robb

>

Is this a complaint? Are we supposed to help you get a rash? Or are

you maybe misrepresenting your equipment? I agree, something doesn't

seem right here.

Dick

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> Hi everyone......I still don't have a rash!!......I've been doing

ozone body suit and sauna's for a few weeks now......and doing more

than what is reccommended and I still have no sign of a rash......my

ozone is very strong.....burns a hole in a latex glove in about 1

second...........any suggestions?.........Robb

>

Is this a complaint? Are we supposed to help you get a rash? Or are

you maybe misrepresenting your equipment? I agree, something doesn't

seem right here.

Dick

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> Hi everyone......I still don't have a rash!!......I've been doing

ozone body suit and sauna's for a few weeks now......and doing more

than what is reccommended and I still have no sign of a rash......my

ozone is very strong.....burns a hole in a latex glove in about 1

second...........any suggestions?.........Robb

>

Well, I would suggest you celebrate.

And you also have the option of upping the amounts of

ozone you use, if you wish.

Moria

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well....I've worked hard for a rash......and now I don't have

one!!!.....LOL.......I just keep thinking nothing is happening since I don't

have one........I know I'm doing it right......and I know my ozone is highly

concentrated........is my body holding on to my toxic load?......somtimes I do

my hyperthermia treatment in the tub and raise my temperature to 102 then I get

in my nylon body suit and remove all the air from it......then I turn on the o3

at about 1 litre per min.........I know this is supposed to be alot.....but It

doesn't seem to bother me...............I don't know whats going on.........Robb

Re: Rash

> Hi everyone......I still don't have a rash!!......I've been doing

ozone body suit and sauna's for a few weeks now......and doing more

than what is reccommended and I still have no sign of a rash......my

ozone is very strong.....burns a hole in a latex glove in about 1

second...........any suggestions?.........Robb

>

Is this a complaint? Are we supposed to help you get a rash? Or are

you maybe misrepresenting your equipment? I agree, something doesn't

seem right here.

Dick

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Dear Robb,

There's the answer.

At 1 liter per minute you are making very little ozone.

Try 1/2 liter/minute.

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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From: " Robb " <rube2112us@...>

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Subject: Re: Re: Rash

Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:49:59 -0500

well....I've worked hard for a rash......and now I don't have

one!!!.....LOL.......I just keep thinking nothing is happening since I don't

have one........I know I'm doing it right......and I know my ozone is highly

concentrated........is my body holding on to my toxic load?......somtimes I

do my hyperthermia treatment in the tub and raise my temperature to 102 then

I get in my nylon body suit and remove all the air from it......then I turn

on the o3 at about 1 litre per min.........I know this is supposed to be

alot.....but It doesn't seem to bother me...............I don't know whats

going on.........Robb

Re: Rash

> Hi everyone......I still don't have a rash!!......I've been doing

ozone body suit and sauna's for a few weeks now......and doing more

than what is reccommended and I still have no sign of a rash......my

ozone is very strong.....burns a hole in a latex glove in about 1

second...........any suggestions?.........Robb

>

Is this a complaint? Are we supposed to help you get a rash? Or are

you maybe misrepresenting your equipment? I agree, something doesn't

seem right here.

Dick

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I did DAILY saunas for 19 days before I got the rash. Then I got it BIG

TIME. I am sure mine was the worst rash ever (I know we all say that)....

I think its getting better. After the rash began I could only do a sauna

every 7 days or it was unbearable. Now I can do it every 4 days.......

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Robb,

What is the ozone output concentration of your generator at 1 LPM?

Dennis

Robb wrote:

>well....I've worked hard for a rash......and now I don't have

one!!!.....LOL.......I just keep thinking nothing is happening since I don't

have one........I know I'm doing it right......and I know my ozone is highly

concentrated........is my body holding on to my toxic load?......somtimes I do

my hyperthermia treatment in the tub and raise my temperature to 102 then I get

in my nylon body suit and remove all the air from it......then I turn on the o3

at about 1 litre per min.........I know this is supposed to be alot.....but It

doesn't seem to bother me...............I don't know whats going on.........Robb

>

> Re: Rash

>

>

>

> > Hi everyone......I still don't have a rash!!......I've been doing

> ozone body suit and sauna's for a few weeks now......and doing more

> than what is reccommended and I still have no sign of a rash......my

> ozone is very strong.....burns a hole in a latex glove in about 1

> second...........any suggestions?.........Robb

> >

> Is this a complaint? Are we supposed to help you get a rash? Or are

> you maybe misrepresenting your equipment? I agree, something doesn't

> seem right here.

>

> Dick

>

>

>

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I don't know......I built it....but I can promise you it is stronger than

most.......my chamber is 4 " I.D. and 36 " long with a corona element 4 inches

wide running the entire 36 inches........the ozone will knock you down.....it is

strong..........Robb

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>

>

>

> > Hi everyone......I still don't have a rash!!......I've been doing

> ozone body suit and sauna's for a few weeks now......and doing more

> than what is reccommended and I still have no sign of a rash......my

> ozone is very strong.....burns a hole in a latex glove in about 1

> second...........any suggestions?.........Robb

> >

> Is this a complaint? Are we supposed to help you get a rash? Or are

> you maybe misrepresenting your equipment? I agree, something doesn't

> seem right here.

>

> Dick

>

>

>

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No rash? Give it time -- I mean more time! It took me about 6

months of 3-4x/week doing ozone saunas then I started breaking out.

I was taking homozon at the time and thought that was staving it

off. It was very bad after the rash started and I had to stop doing

the oz saunas. It was so itchy, weepy and way too uncomfortable. I

can do just a few minutes of it now with the steam sauna.

Don't worry, I think you have the rash to look forward to. If not,

cool, maybe a rash is not your destiny!!!

mkj

> well....I've worked hard for a rash......and now I don't have

one!!!.....LOL.......I just keep thinking nothing is happening since

I don't have one........I know I'm doing it right......and I know my

ozone is highly concentrated........is my body holding on to my

toxic load?......somtimes I do my hyperthermia treatment in the tub

and raise my temperature to 102 then I get in my nylon body suit and

remove all the air from it......then I turn on the o3 at about 1

litre per min.........I know this is supposed to be alot.....but It

doesn't seem to bother me...............I don't know whats going

on.........Robb

>

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, why were you doing ozone saunas and did they help you? Do you

do any form of ozone now?

> > well....I've worked hard for a rash......and now I don't have

> one!!!.....LOL.......I just keep thinking nothing is happening

since

> I don't have one........I know I'm doing it right......and I know

my

> ozone is highly concentrated........is my body holding on to my

> toxic load?......somtimes I do my hyperthermia treatment in the tub

> and raise my temperature to 102 then I get in my nylon body suit

and

> remove all the air from it......then I turn on the o3 at about 1

> litre per min.........I know this is supposed to be alot.....but It

> doesn't seem to bother me...............I don't know whats going

> on.........Robb

> >

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> I don't know......I built it....but I can promise you it is stronger

than most.......my chamber is 4 " I.D. and 36 " long with a corona

element 4 inches wide running the entire 36 inches........the ozone

will knock you down.....it is strong..........Robb

Hi Robb,

Have you had the ozone output on your machine tested?

If not, that is what I'd do. I think if you send it

to Saul he can tell you the output.

And, what do you mean " the ozone will knock you down? "

This comment has no meaning to me. I've used ozone

lots of ways by now, and don't know what you mean by

this.

Moria

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> I don't know......I built it....but I can promise you it is

stronger than most.......my chamber is 4 " I.D. and 36 " long with a

corona element 4 inches wide running the entire 36 inches........the

ozone will knock you down.....it is strong..........Robb

> ----- Original Message -----

How do you know it is stronger than most? This is your problem, you

are guessing every step of the way and continue to do so.

Dick

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If you breath it.......you will be coughing big time......and it doesn't take

much.......Robb

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> I don't know......I built it....but I can promise you it is stronger

than most.......my chamber is 4 " I.D. and 36 " long with a corona

element 4 inches wide running the entire 36 inches........the ozone

will knock you down.....it is strong..........Robb

Hi Robb,

Have you had the ozone output on your machine tested?

If not, that is what I'd do. I think if you send it

to Saul he can tell you the output.

And, what do you mean " the ozone will knock you down? "

This comment has no meaning to me. I've used ozone

lots of ways by now, and don't know what you mean by

this.

Moria

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I can't send this machine to the other end of the continent to have it

tested.............that would cost a fortune.......tesla coils are

heavy........Robb

Re: Rash

> I don't know......I built it....but I can promise you it is stronger

than most.......my chamber is 4 " I.D. and 36 " long with a corona

element 4 inches wide running the entire 36 inches........the ozone

will knock you down.....it is strong..........Robb

Hi Robb,

Have you had the ozone output on your machine tested?

If not, that is what I'd do. I think if you send it

to Saul he can tell you the output.

And, what do you mean " the ozone will knock you down? "

This comment has no meaning to me. I've used ozone

lots of ways by now, and don't know what you mean by

this.

Moria

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no......because corona is notorious for producing very strong concentrations of

o3..........and I've seen and used a few other generators.........and I've tried

the others on latex gloves.....which is what I read that Saul recommended

another person do to tell if it was putting out o3............and I'm sure that

very few people with corona generators know the concentration of their

machine.............Robb

Re: Rash

> I don't know......I built it....but I can promise you it is

stronger than most.......my chamber is 4 " I.D. and 36 " long with a

corona element 4 inches wide running the entire 36 inches........the

ozone will knock you down.....it is strong..........Robb

> ----- Original Message -----

How do you know it is stronger than most? This is your problem, you

are guessing every step of the way and continue to do so.

Dick

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gail

i never had a rash from ozone, but i wonder if urine would work.

it has worked for every skin problem i encountered since i found about this

therapy. i severely burned myself a few months ago and put urine on it right

away. i fully expected to have very bad scarring. but a few hours later

there was no pain or anything, no scarring not nothing. in the one small

spot where i missed it was red for about a week. i have also used it for

really bad mosquito bites and poison ivy

its definitely worth a shot, maybe even in a small test area

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gail

i never had a rash from ozone, but i wonder if urine would work.

it has worked for every skin problem i encountered since i found about this

therapy. i severely burned myself a few months ago and put urine on it right

away. i fully expected to have very bad scarring. but a few hours later

there was no pain or anything, no scarring not nothing. in the one small

spot where i missed it was red for about a week. i have also used it for

really bad mosquito bites and poison ivy

its definitely worth a shot, maybe even in a small test area

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Hi Arthur,

I am going to seriously consider that. Will give it a try in the

mornig, if I haven't gotten any relief by then.

Gail

ps. does anybody ever call you Art? Just curious.

-- In oxyplus , " aluckower " <aluckower@n...> wrote:

> gail

>

> i never had a rash from ozone, but i wonder if urine would work.

>

> it has worked for every skin problem i encountered since i found

about this

> therapy. i severely burned myself a few months ago and put urine on

it right

> away. i fully expected to have very bad scarring. but a few hours

later

> there was no pain or anything, no scarring not nothing. in the one

small

> spot where i missed it was red for about a week. i have also used

it for

> really bad mosquito bites and poison ivy

>

> its definitely worth a shot, maybe even in a small test area

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Sounds like it could be Fifth's disease (parvovirus). It normally starts on cheeks and then spreads to rest of body (why it is also called 'slapcheek'). In most kids it normally resolves in a few weeks, just like chickenpox. IF it is Fifth's, and IF you're pregnant, then make sure you visit the doctor yourself - it can lower the blood supply to the growing baby so monitoring needed.

HTH

Mikael

Rash

Hello, hope someone might help.Yesterday my son was sent home from school with a rash on his cheeks, arms, legs, chest, tummy, back and esp. bad on his bottom and hips. His teacher thought it was chicken pox but he has already had it. He is not scratching, has no fever or other symptoms. The rash looks like tiny raised red bumps. He did not ingest any unusual foods, and his skin did not come into contact with anything unusual. He is GF/CF, has epsom salt baths, and has been taking nystatin and culturelle for six weeks with nice improvements being made and no die off symptoms beyond a few red spots (larger) on his bottom. ANy ideas at all? My first thought was big yeast die off but would it not have occurred by now?Thanks in advance for any help.

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