Guest guest Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 I agree. I would never put anything on it without knowing what it is. MAKE A HAPPY MEMORY EVERY DAY: Alternasense Skin Design Products edandevMil@... Re: Rash > Yes. Tell him to see his Dr. From long distance it is impossible to > tell what kind of rash it is, what causes it, etc. He really needs to > see a Dr. > > Best wishes- > Lynda > > DENISEJOANNE SUTHERLAND wrote: > > >Hello Everyone. My dad has a rash that looks like it's under the skin (I haven't seen him recently, just a pictured he emailed me) and he wants me to make him a " potion " to put on it. (It looks blotchy). Any suggestions? Thanks > > > > > > -- > Lynda Sorenson > http://www.Luna-Aromatics.com > Come to the First Aromatic Un-Conference September 2003 > http://www.Luna-Aromatics.com/2003unconf.html > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2003 Report Share Posted April 5, 2003 your dad could have something like Shingles which I would not mess around with. He needs to see his doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 Hi , Thanks very much for the information on the Nystatin powder. I didn't even realize they made powders for topical yeast infections! I don't know if that is what I have, but I am hopefully going to be able to get to the Doc on Friday to find out. I've been thinking about MJ, sending positive thoughts her way. I hope she is feeling better very soon Thanks again. >For MJ we use Nystatin powder....the ointment didn't >do much except make it a bit worse. Of course, MJ gets yeast >infections everywhere while on antibiotics...which is a >frequent occurence this year. But the powder seems to take >care of everything!!!! It is by prescription. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 from Dale, Mom to Katy, CVID, age 19 le, no idea what could be causing the rash. Sounds bacterial though if it's spreading to surrounding areas where it touches. Hope it resolves soon. I'm so sorry to hear about your sister. Is this the sister who has children that you kept a few years ago? Praying for your peace at this hard time. In His service, Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Is this the sister who has children that you kept a few years ago? No. This is an older sister 45. She does have three children 8, 15 and 20. They were not in the fire. Thanks for your prayers. The rash has us all baffled. Its more like little pimples with puss then when they pop cause a red blotchy rash area. Weird.............just one of those things The doc is keeping a close eye on it so Im not too worried about it. Its not causing ryan any discomfort...........I'll let you know if they come up with anything. I was very interested in your report on the convention...........thank you for sharing. I am interested in the speaker who didn't show up re: accupuncture, biofeedback and herbs. Was there a name given for this speaker and his study. has used accupunture and biofeedback with great succes. Stanford Hospital started him on it at first I didn't like the idea but it made a believer out of me! goes to accupunture once a week right now and in two weeks we will spread it out to once a month. We have seen drastic decrease in painful headaches. Herbs I am very unsure about and would like to see some studies before we try them. Thanks again for the update. I hope we can make the one in Florida. Do you meet Tyler Yates? He is a 16yr old 6 foot 3 210 pounds. He makes no antibodys! No Igg He was not suppose to live past 8th grade! He and his mom attended the seminar. I have not spoken with them yet to see how it went. This young man is a very positive and living life to its fullest! He attends High School (they have a big rally at the begining of the year and he shares his story) and plays on the soccor team. Amazing kid! Anyways Thanks again le Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 le, I am so sorry about your sister. Will be praying for her. I hope the docs can determine what is causing 's rash. I have never heard of anything like it before. Martha (mom to Christing IgA deficiency, congenital heart disease etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 le, sending prayers your way for your sister and family. Take care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 In a message dated 7/29/2003 12:02:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DANIELLEPENNE@... writes: > My sister was in a house fire and was burned 45% of her body with 3rd > degree burns I am so sorry le. Praying for all of you. About 's rash, that does sound strange! Was he exposed to anything like poison Ivy that could have gotten infected? Diane, Mom to Kody age 7, Di Syndrome, Hypogammaglobulinemia, epilepsy, asthma, chronic encopresis, severe learning disabilities also Mom to Arika age 15, Kaila age 12, and Sami age 9 (dyslexic). Check out my website at: <A HREF= " http://www.geocities.com/schmidtzoo/SNAK " >Special Needs Awesome Kids</A> (www.geocities.com/schmidtzoo/SNAK.html) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 le: I am very sorry about your sister -- prayers are coming your way. I'm so glad you have faith to comfort you right now. Only info I could find that sounded anything like the rash was the following, though they are only a little reminiscent of your description: " Staphylococcus aureus is commonly found in pimples, boils, and carbuncles and causes impetigo (im-pe-ti'go), a disease of the skin that usually affects children and that is characterized by small blisters containing pus that easily rupture and form a thick, yellowish crust. Stereptococcus pyogenes causes erysipelas (er-i-sip e-las), swollen red patches in the skin. Burns are often infected by Pseudomonas aeruginosa, producing a characteristic blue-green pus caused by bacterial pigment. " Doubt that helps, but there it is. Good luck -- (mom to Kate, born 9/19/02, dairy intolerant; and , age 4-1/2, GERD, dairy intolerant -- currently has polysaccharide antibody def, previously had transient IgG, IgA, t-cell & other defs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 from Dale, Mom to Katy, CVID, age 19 le, the speaker who was unable to do his speech, but apparently the one who does the most with alternative medicines -- is E. Straus, M.D. at the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine, NIH. Yes, I got to meet Tyler, but only briefly. I wanted to introduce him to Katy, but after meeting him, I never saw him again -- you know how crowded it is. I was impressed with him, too. Such a likable young man and so strong looking. I hope that he'll take an interest in and give him some encouragement. Seemed like a really positive guy. I'm continuing to pray for you and your family at this time, In His service, Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 le, I really don't have any ideas on the rash, but I hope he improves soon. I'm so sorry to hear about your sister. She will be in my prayers. Please let us know if there is anything more we can do. Ray, mother to Tabitha (age 7), Autumn, age 5 (IgG def., asthma, chronic sinusitis, and allergies), and Duncan (age 2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Hi, Lori. You might try adding some tea tree oil and to your salve. Because TTO is pretty much anti everything, it will kill any fungal growth or bacterial growth that may be adding to the problem. You could also add a bit of clove oil (very tiny bit), some eucalyptus oil and some rosemary oil for added " oomph. " HTH pamela rash My six year old daughter has recently developed dry red patches on the inner parts of her elbows and a spot on the back of her neck. I made a salve from olive oil, emu oil, comfrey, lavendar, yarrow, echinecia, and calendula, scented with essential lavendar oil. I also made a healing tea with red clover, chamomile, yellow root dock and nettles. It doesn't seem to be helping. Does anyone have any suggestions. Thanks. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 , My mom, at 83 did her sauna every other day in spite of the rash. She toughed it through. She also had it over her chest, back & neck. When she no longer got the rash, you should have seen the smug smile on her face. Not to mention that her skin returned to a very soft normal. I'd say tough it through if you can. jim > Hi Saul and others, > > Is there any danger to letting the rash get bad? I think I've got one of the > worst cases you've ever seen. Its all over my chest, back, shoulders, and I > mean ALL OVER, with very little skin left clean. But the sauna is so > effective in treating the Lyme Disease, I'm not quite sure whether to continue saunas > and tough it through the worsening rash, or to wait a while? I really > hesitate to stop doing them - my body " craves " them every morning when I wake up... > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 , My mom, at 83 did her sauna every other day in spite of the rash. She toughed it through. She also had it over her chest, back & neck. When she no longer got the rash, you should have seen the smug smile on her face. Not to mention that her skin returned to a very soft normal. I'd say tough it through if you can. jim > Hi Saul and others, > > Is there any danger to letting the rash get bad? I think I've got one of the > worst cases you've ever seen. Its all over my chest, back, shoulders, and I > mean ALL OVER, with very little skin left clean. But the sauna is so > effective in treating the Lyme Disease, I'm not quite sure whether to continue saunas > and tough it through the worsening rash, or to wait a while? I really > hesitate to stop doing them - my body " craves " them every morning when I wake up... > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 > Hi Saul and others, > > Is there any danger to letting the rash get bad? I think I've got one of the > worst cases you've ever seen. Its all over my chest, back, shoulders, and I > mean ALL OVER, with very little skin left clean. But the sauna is so > effective in treating the Lyme Disease, I'm not quite sure whether to continue saunas > and tough it through the worsening rash, or to wait a while? I really > hesitate to stop doing them - my body " craves " them every morning when I wake up... > > Try lowering the heat. Ozone is more reactive on the skin at higher tempretures. This happens when the heat naturally rises to your upper body in the sauna, and that is also why the inverse happens on your legs, due to cooler temps. After 5 years of ozone saunas, I still can't do more than 2 high temp ozone treatments per week due to rashes. Before the sauna, I did the hot shower and jump in the bag routine and I never had a rash. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Dick, Thanks for responding. Actually I keep my legs pulled up to get the full effect of the heat. My legs are actually HOTTER than the rest of my body because I have them positioned so the steam actually sprays on them - hot hot hot. And I funnel over the legs. STILL the rash is mostly on upper body. I wonder if there is something else going on here? Also when you said ozone is more reactive on hot skin, what do you mean by " reactive " ? Thanks, > Try lowering the heat. Ozone is more reactive on the skin at higher > tempretures. This happens when the heat naturally rises to your > upper body in the sauna, and that is also why the inverse happens on > your legs, due to cooler temps. After 5 years of ozone saunas, I > still can't do more than 2 high temp ozone treatments per week due > to rashes. Before the sauna, I did the hot shower and jump in the > bag routine and I never had a rash. > > Dick > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Dick, Thanks for responding. Actually I keep my legs pulled up to get the full effect of the heat. My legs are actually HOTTER than the rest of my body because I have them positioned so the steam actually sprays on them - hot hot hot. And I funnel over the legs. STILL the rash is mostly on upper body. I wonder if there is something else going on here? Also when you said ozone is more reactive on hot skin, what do you mean by " reactive " ? Thanks, > Try lowering the heat. Ozone is more reactive on the skin at higher > tempretures. This happens when the heat naturally rises to your > upper body in the sauna, and that is also why the inverse happens on > your legs, due to cooler temps. After 5 years of ozone saunas, I > still can't do more than 2 high temp ozone treatments per week due > to rashes. Before the sauna, I did the hot shower and jump in the > bag routine and I never had a rash. > > Dick > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Dear , No danger at all, just discomfort. You can back off and it will subside in a while. Or you can grit your teeth and charge ahead. Its your call. You could try to sauna without the ozone. Some people say that helps. Drink LOTS of water. Do another liver cleanse. Take 2 protease per hour. Try emu oil on the skin. Try oat milk, squeezed out of oats in a sock. Try hydrogen peroxide baths. Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ ----Original Message Follows---- From: TheSkyKing@... Reply-oxyplus ozonetherapy , oxyplus Subject: rash Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 08:58:12 EDT Hi Saul and others, Is there any danger to letting the rash get bad? I think I've got one of the worst cases you've ever seen. Its all over my chest, back, shoulders, and I mean ALL OVER, with very little skin left clean. But the sauna is so effective in treating the Lyme Disease, I'm not quite sure whether to continue saunas and tough it through the worsening rash, or to wait a while? I really hesitate to stop doing them - my body " craves " them every morning when I wake up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Dear , No danger at all, just discomfort. You can back off and it will subside in a while. Or you can grit your teeth and charge ahead. Its your call. You could try to sauna without the ozone. Some people say that helps. Drink LOTS of water. Do another liver cleanse. Take 2 protease per hour. Try emu oil on the skin. Try oat milk, squeezed out of oats in a sock. Try hydrogen peroxide baths. Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ ----Original Message Follows---- From: TheSkyKing@... Reply-oxyplus ozonetherapy , oxyplus Subject: rash Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 08:58:12 EDT Hi Saul and others, Is there any danger to letting the rash get bad? I think I've got one of the worst cases you've ever seen. Its all over my chest, back, shoulders, and I mean ALL OVER, with very little skin left clean. But the sauna is so effective in treating the Lyme Disease, I'm not quite sure whether to continue saunas and tough it through the worsening rash, or to wait a while? I really hesitate to stop doing them - my body " craves " them every morning when I wake up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 Hi , the only thing that worked for my *outta control/must tear my skin off* rashes was a Band-Aid product called " Anti-Itch Gel " (formerly known as Rhuli gel). It contains camphor (an analgesic) and EDTA, along with some less than natural/good for you products, but it was the only thing that let me finally get some much needed sleep. Thought I'd mention this on the off chance that Saul's suggestions still leave you in agony. GB --- " Saul Pressman " <spressman@h...> wrote: > Dear , > > No danger at all, just discomfort. > > You can back off and it will subside in a while. Or you can grit your > teeth and charge ahead. Its your call. > > You could try to sauna without the ozone. Some people say that helps. > > Drink LOTS of water. > Do another liver cleanse. > Take 2 protease per hour. > Try emu oil on the skin. > Try oat milk, squeezed out of oats in a sock. > Try hydrogen peroxide baths. > > Best of health! > Dr. Saul Pressman ------ > From: TheSkyKing@a... > Is there any danger to letting the rash get bad? I think I've got one of the > worst cases you've ever seen. Its all over my chest, back, shoulders, and I > mean ALL OVER, with very little skin left clean. But the sauna is so > effective in treating the Lyme Disease, I'm not quite sure whether to > continue saunas > and tough it through the worsening rash, or to wait a while? I really > hesitate to stop doing them - my body " craves " them every morning when I > wake up... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 Hi , the only thing that worked for my *outta control/must tear my skin off* rashes was a Band-Aid product called " Anti-Itch Gel " (formerly known as Rhuli gel). It contains camphor (an analgesic) and EDTA, along with some less than natural/good for you products, but it was the only thing that let me finally get some much needed sleep. Thought I'd mention this on the off chance that Saul's suggestions still leave you in agony. GB --- " Saul Pressman " <spressman@h...> wrote: > Dear , > > No danger at all, just discomfort. > > You can back off and it will subside in a while. Or you can grit your > teeth and charge ahead. Its your call. > > You could try to sauna without the ozone. Some people say that helps. > > Drink LOTS of water. > Do another liver cleanse. > Take 2 protease per hour. > Try emu oil on the skin. > Try oat milk, squeezed out of oats in a sock. > Try hydrogen peroxide baths. > > Best of health! > Dr. Saul Pressman ------ > From: TheSkyKing@a... > Is there any danger to letting the rash get bad? I think I've got one of the > worst cases you've ever seen. Its all over my chest, back, shoulders, and I > mean ALL OVER, with very little skin left clean. But the sauna is so > effective in treating the Lyme Disease, I'm not quite sure whether to > continue saunas > and tough it through the worsening rash, or to wait a while? I really > hesitate to stop doing them - my body " craves " them every morning when I > wake up... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 > Is it possible that the steam is blowing the ozone away from your > legs? Unlikely. At what point does the rash stop on your uppper arms in > > relation to your upper body? It is covering my bicep/tricep, somewhat on my elbow area, but diminishes and is gone by the mid-forearm area. However I do funnel OVER the forearm area, and still no rash... Is it a sweat gland issue, or a fat > > issue that varies with each person. Nobody knows for sure I think. That makes sense. Toxins more likely to come up in various parts of the body based on " flow patterns " of lymph, sweat, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 > Dick, > > Thanks for responding. Actually I keep my legs pulled up to get the full > effect of the heat. My legs are actually HOTTER than the rest of my body because > I have them positioned so the steam actually sprays on them - hot hot hot. > And I funnel over the legs. STILL the rash is mostly on upper body. I wonder > if there is something else going on here? Is it possible that the steam is blowing the ozone away from your legs? At what point does the rash stop on your uppper arms in relation to your upper body? Is it a sweat gland issue, or a fat issue that varies with each person. Nobody knows for sure I think. > > Also when you said ozone is more reactive on hot skin, what do you mean by > " reactive " ? Ozone by definition is a corrosive. I know of no acid or alkaline that is not more active in higher temperatures. I only assume the same holds true with ozone. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 Interesting, I had exactly the opposite happen. My forearms were worse than my upper arms. Possibly due to my working a lot with washing engine parts in bins of chemicals and changing pumps in chemical sumps. Also, lower leg was worst. Just shows how different we are! :-) I think what he means by reactive is that more ozone enters the open pores and therefore there is more to react with whatever there is to act upon. Best wishes and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI) San Diego, CA 92106-2424 IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 ----- Original Message ----- ? At what point does the rash stop on your uppper arms in relation to your upper body? Is it a sweat gland issue, or a fat issue that varies with each person. Nobody knows for sure I think. > Also when you said ozone is more reactive on hot skin, what do you mean by > " reactive " ? Ozone by definition is a corrosive. I know of no acid or alkaline that is not more active in higher temperatures. I only assume the same holds true with ozone. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 Dear Dick, I doubt that ozone is more active at higher temperatures. Ozone is converted back to oxygen by heat, so the concentration falls over time (and distance). In water cleaning, ozone is employed at near 4 degrees C, which is very cold, and it has no problem in doing its job very thoroughly, and at very low concentrations (1 ug/ml). Because of sweat flushing outward in the body's reaction to heat stress, more unoxidized toxins are carried to the skin with the ozone sauna than other methods. This accounts for the markedly higher incidence and intensity of the red rash, compared to other transdermal methods (such as limb bagging). Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----Original Message Follows---- From: " bjs17792001 " <bjs17792001@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Re: rash Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 00:55:31 -0000 > Dick, > > Thanks for responding. Actually I keep my legs pulled up to get the full > effect of the heat. My legs are actually HOTTER than the rest of my body because > I have them positioned so the steam actually sprays on them - hot hot hot. > And I funnel over the legs. STILL the rash is mostly on upper body. I wonder > if there is something else going on here? Is it possible that the steam is blowing the ozone away from your legs? At what point does the rash stop on your uppper arms in relation to your upper body? Is it a sweat gland issue, or a fat issue that varies with each person. Nobody knows for sure I think. > > Also when you said ozone is more reactive on hot skin, what do you mean by > " reactive " ? Ozone by definition is a corrosive. I know of no acid or alkaline that is not more active in higher temperatures. I only assume the same holds true with ozone. Dick _________________________________________________________________ Instant message in style with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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