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Poor girl! My bys had the chicken pox last year and we had good results

with baking soda. On the very itchy spots I put 1 drop tea tree oil. I

found (or better the boys) found it very helpful and they don't have any

scars at all.

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At 14:52 07.01.01 -0600, Steve Kadolph wrote:

>My daughter has been socked with chicken pox... but so far, she hasn't

>complained at all! She, of course, is very itchy, so I am looking for the

>list for tried and true help...

>

>Oatmeal bath's I would think would help....would I just put ground up

>oatmeal in the tub or put in some baking soda with it?

>

>I'd appreciate any and all help....

>

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Hi :0)

If they are not open, I find pure lavender applied to the skin has worked

for us a few times where nothing else would touch chronic itching. Maybe

someone could give you some more help on dilutions, if they are necessary,

or try a very small area first?

I don't know what the scoop is on using this kind of thing if they are open.

Vitamin E is supposed to help with scarring, I would assume especially

applied topically.

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> Is this pretty much how everyone else here would deal with CP for their PID

> children? Just wait and then treat? Ok, my last question- it looks very

> much like has started with the CP today-- spent Friday onwards

> unwell , took him in Saturday to the drs who looked him over and found

> swollen lymph glands under jaw, around his neck, and in his armpits, and

> diagnosed virus. Thisafternoon I found 2 spots on his leg , behind the

> knee, and 4 others just starting closeby. I have watched them since but

> they still dont look like the chicken pox I have seen photos of. The first

> two look like pimples or mossie bites, the other 4 red raised bumps. Just

> what does CP look like when it first starts? And how long does it take

> until the spots look unmistakably like CP?

Hi ,

Our personal protocol for our kids being exposed to Chicken Pox, (this is a

" direct " exposure consisting of close contact for more than 1/2 hour, ie.

classroom, shared bus seat, playmate in which physical contact occured, etc.)

is for us to contact the clinic within 24-96 hours of exposure. If the kids

are within 2 weeks of their IVIG infusion, we just wait and see and treat

with acyclovir if there is a reason to treat. However if their IVIG infusion

is more than 2 weeks they need to go to the clinic or ER for the VZIG

(varicella zoster immuneglobulin) shot. Then they are watched carefully for

any signs of the chicken pox.

The chicken pox typically starts with a cold several days prior to the actual

development of the characteristic rash. The rash almost always starts on the

belly and then spreads rapidly (usually within a day but sometimes within

hours) over the remainder of the body. Many kids have a temp and a some

stomach upset, but not all.

My neice just had a significant case of chicken pox although she had been

vaccinated and her class had 3 cases of them all in vaccinated children.

I also wanted to comment on the doctor who wanted to vaccinate even

after his severe reaction. We have been told that should NEVER have

the varicella vaccine again, and he only developed an abcess at the injection

site. They said that there was a good chance he would have a life

threatening reaction. I can only think of poor s reactions and cringe

at the doctors suggestion!

I hope he doesn't have the chicken pox and may God give you strength if he

does! Oatmeal baths are MESSY!!!!!!! LOL

Take care and God Bless,

Mommy to Annette 12 (Selective Antibody Deficiency-IGG 2 and 4, CP,

Developmental Delay, g-tube, HIV+, IVIG x 2.5 years), 7 (PID, brain

tumor survivor, severe hearing loss, chronic sinus and ear infections,

asthma, seizure disorder, IVIG x 6 months, port-a-cath) and Trayvon 4

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Maya was exposed to chicken pox unknowingly at nursery. When the nursery

were alerted once the spots came out, I kept Maya off nursery for 3 weeks.

Other children that were at the nursery same time as Maya got it but she

didn`t. We then went to New York for a few days and she coped with the

flight quite well. When we got back from New York, chicken pox was rife in

our area by this time. I didn`t keep her off nursery as she was quite well

at the time and she still didn`t get it. She is due for some blood tests

next month, I shall see if they will take some blood to see if she has any

antibodies. I asked about antiviral treatment for her but her paediatrician

said it wouldn`t be necessary despite her low T cells, helper cells, white

blood cells and her neutropenia.

Diane, I noticed you mentioned that Kody has epilepy, has he had a MRI scan

and if so did it say which lobe is affected. Do you know if it has anything

to do with his Di? Maya has lesions in her parietal lobe. I am still

waiting for her to have a MRI scan.

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Maya was exposed to chicken pox unknowingly at nursery. When the nursery

were alerted once the spots came out, I kept Maya off nursery for 3 weeks.

Other children that were at the nursery same time as Maya got it but she

didn`t. We then went to New York for a few days and she coped with the

flight quite well. When we got back from New York, chicken pox was rife in

our area by this time. I didn`t keep her off nursery as she was quite well

at the time and she still didn`t get it. She is due for some blood tests

next month, I shall see if they will take some blood to see if she has any

antibodies. I asked about antiviral treatment for her but her paediatrician

said it wouldn`t be necessary despite her low T cells, helper cells, white

blood cells and her neutropenia.

Diane, I noticed you mentioned that Kody has epilepy, has he had a MRI scan

and if so did it say which lobe is affected. Do you know if it has anything

to do with his Di? Maya has lesions in her parietal lobe. I am still

waiting for her to have a MRI scan.

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In a message dated 7/24/2004 4:53:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,

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>

> So, if any moms can refresh my memory about how long the outbreak will last,

> please do so.

>

>

>

All 3 of my kids went through this (one at a time, one right after the

other!) about 9 years ago.

Here's what I can tell you from our experience.

The first couple of days are easy - about 4-5 days into it the

rash/fever/discomfort peak. It ends in 7-10 days. Once the bubbles are all

scabbed over then

your child is safe to go out in public again (even tho he will still look

pretty awful).

It effects mucus membranes - so your child has the rash in his throat,

sinuses, intestinal track, etc. (My daughter with DS first showed the rash near

her

vaginal area... imagine my concern until I realized what it was!) No wonder he

isn't hungry!

Most important - DON'T let your child pick at scabs. They will scar! If you

can talk your pediatrician into prescibing an antibiotic do it! Of all 3 kids

the only one with no residual scars of any kind is (my one with DS)

because she was on antibiotics for an ear infection at the same time. DO apply

antibiotic lotions liberally.

Your pediatrician can also prescribe anti-herpes meds to relieve symptoms -

altho it will mean your child is less likely to be permanently immunce. This is

less an issue now that there is a vaccine. When we went thru this the

vaccine was just being introduced and none of my kids had it.

hang in there!

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His outbreak will last 10 days to three weeks. he is contagious as long as

he has open spots. i went through this three times, thank goodness the last

two had the vaccine. They didn't have it before that. They all got them one

after the other and my 19 year old, who was only 10 months old at the time, and

got them really bad (they mutate from person to person). He had them

everywhere and actually had oozing pox. The only saving grace was he was to

young to

scratch so didn't scar. It will be over soon. I hope the rst of your brood

have either had them or been vaccinated.

Loree

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As best I can recall, the quarantine time is at least 2 weeks with major

symptoms usually clearing in about 5-7 days.

At least he'll likely stay immunized for life now, but what a lousy time to

have it!

Judi

Chicken Pox

I can't believe I am posting this..........

, who is almost 11 has a bad case of chicken pox. The vaccine

doesn't come with a booster - and he was exposed at school 2 weeks ago (they

" forgot " to tell me). He had a high fever for two days and according to

Katey, she went up stairs yesterday morning for just a minute and when she

returned, he was covered in spots. I know two hours earlier he was spot

free. He even has them in his mouth.

He hasn't eaten in 2 days, but he is drinking and taking his advil and

benedryl.

So, if any moms can refresh my memory about how long the outbreak will last,

please do so.

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In a message dated 7/24/2004 6:46:08 PM Central Standard Time,

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> was vaccinated for chicken pox - I knew he'd have a small chance of

> getting them (all children who have been vaccinated do) later on in life.

> His pox marks are worse than the older three when they had them way back

> when. Well, summer school is over for him - he's going to be home now until

> school starts in September.

>

> I put his picture on the main site - he's checking out his belly in

> front of a mirror.

>

>

HI :)

OOOOOhhhh my gosh, I am so afraid of this with Tater (age 4) .............

he's been vaccinated too.

All of my kids, including Sara have had the chicken pox. Sara had the most

dots but Joe and got hit twice. The first time age 4 and 3, 12 dots, not

enough to keep them safe, they got hit the second time in Kindy (both at the

same time).

I took so many PICS of Sara when she had them, she was covered everywhere and

she never scratched them :) I think she was 3 yrs old when spotty.

Good luck, who's going to watch while you work?

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Loree,

was vaccinated for chicken pox - I knew he'd have a small chance of

getting them (all children who have been vaccinated do) later on in life.

His pox marks are worse than the older three when they had them way back

when. Well, summer school is over for him - he's going to be home now until

school starts in September.

I put his picture on the main site - he's checking out his belly in

front of a mirror.

Re: Chicken Pox

> His outbreak will last 10 days to three weeks. he is contagious as long

as

> he has open spots. i went through this three times, thank goodness the

last

> two had the vaccine. They didn't have it before that. They all got them

one

> after the other and my 19 year old, who was only 10 months old at the

time, and

> got them really bad (they mutate from person to person). He had them

> everywhere and actually had oozing pox. The only saving grace was he was

to young to

> scratch so didn't scar. It will be over soon. I hope the rst of your

brood

> have either had them or been vaccinated.

>

> Loree

>

>

>

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Hi Kathy,

has hundreds of spots - the worse are on his trunk and face. It's

funny, when his fever starts up after the advil wears off, he comes and asks

for a pill. Benedryl and Advil are working well. From what I have read on

the internet, I need to watch him carefully for pneumonia symptoms (though

an old post from Len says it's rare).

Katey will be watching this week (I pay her) and this will be her

first week of watching him all day as opposed to half a day or getting help

from TJ. I'm almost glad he's under the weather so she doesn't have her

hands full all day long. Katey is really good with him and I won't be

worried too much. If he has a bad time with it (so far, benedryl causes his

to sleep alot), then Tim or I will stay home with him.

Vaccines are not always 100% effective. got the mumps - which will

occur in 1% of the vaccinated population IF they are exposed. Wouldn't you

know, she was exposed and was that 1%. With the chicken pox vaccine, I read

that it's 90% effective.

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Scratching isn't the only cause of scarring, though in the case of my own

poxy scars it is! Tim has scars all over his back, though they have faded

over the years, because they got infected and subsequently caused

septacaemia, he didn't scratch any of his spots. The advice about the

antibiotic creams sounds a good one to me. I was really concerned about the

spots under tims colostomy bag and thought they would get infected, but

becoz the tops were regualry pulled off by the gum shield under the bag they

stayed infection free, it was the rest that got infected, I have no idea why

when he was bathed twice a day but such is life. I would advise anyone who

hasn't had their kid vaccinated to get it done, while the pox usually just

makes a poor kids really miserable, there are a significant minority like

Tim who end up with life threatening problems as a result of it.

Sue Wong

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> His outbreak will last 10 days to three weeks. he is contagious as long

as

> he has open spots. i went through this three times, thank goodness the

last

> two had the vaccine. They didn't have it before that. They all got them

one

> after the other and my 19 year old, who was only 10 months old at the

time, and

> got them really bad (they mutate from person to person). He had them

> everywhere and actually had oozing pox. The only saving grace was he was

to young to

> scratch so didn't scar. It will be over soon. I hope the rst of your

brood

> have either had them or been vaccinated.

>

> Loree

>

>

>

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> who was only 10 months old at the time, and

> got them really bad (they mutate from person to person). He had them

> everywhere and actually had oozing pox. The only saving grace was he was to

> young to

> scratch so didn't scar. It will be over soon. I hope the rst of your brood

>

> have either had them or been vaccinated.

>

My youngest (now 10) was also 10 months at the time and has 2 scars - one

" divot " on his cheek and one white bump on his scalp that only shows up when he

gets a #2 buzz cut (so we stick to a #3)

A lukewarm bath with Aveeno is soothing. For older kids you can give then a

bottle of Calamine lotion and swabs that they can dab on the spots (altho

apparently you can't give Calamine AND Benedryl at the same time - see below)

My

kids spents as much time naked as possible during the worst parts. My oldest

(then 6) lay down in the back seat of the car wrapped in nothin but a sheet

when we had to venture out for errands. Our pediatrician was great... would come

out to the car to see the kids so they didn't have to go inside and risk

infecting anyone else.

for more info:

http://www.well-net.com/childrenshealth/chickenpoxinfo-1.html

(excerpt)

What Can Be Done to Make My Child More Comfortable After Chicken Pox Starts?

Give one or more lukewarm baths daily. Add one tablespoon baking soda to each

bath to relieve itching.

Diphenhydramine (Benadryl) may be given to relieve itching. This medicine is

available without prescription. It should always be used according to the

instructions on the product label.

Keep fingernails short to prevent scratching. If infection should occur as

the result of scratching, consult care provider regarding treatment.

Calamine Lotion can help with the itching. If you are already giving your

child Benadryl orally, you should not use Caladryl lotion because this lotion

also contains diphenhydramine, and your child can absorb this medication through

his or her skin, which will add to the effect of whatever diphenhydramine he

or she is already receiving by mouth. This can create an overdose.

You may use acetaminophen (e.g., Tylenol) for fever. Read the label of

instructions on the exact dosage to be used or consult your child's doctor. Do

not

use aspirin (salicylic acid).

If the viral rash is particularly severe, talk to your child's doctor about

the use of Zovirax (acyclovir). This is an antiviral agent which can, in some

cases, shorten the course of the illness. It is however, not recommended in all

cases of chicken pox, so do not expect that your child's doctor will

definitely prescribe it. It is generally used only when chicken pox is quite

severe.

What Kind of Complications Can We Expected from the Chicken Pox?

There are several important complications or problems associated with chicken

pox or its treatment. Chicken pox lesions can become infected with

staphylococcus or streptococcus bacteria causing a cellulitis or skin infection.

While

rarely dangerous, this can be painful and frustrating for everyone, especially

the child. Characteristic pitted pox-like scars may occur in areas where

vesicles were.

A rare complication (1 in 1000 cases of chicken pox) is infection of the

brain, called encephalitis. Here the child may complain of rapid movements of

the

eyes, and inability to maintain balance while walking. Severe headache, fever,

stiff neck, vomiting, alteration in the child's level of consciousness and

even convulsions may also be seen. If there is any question of encephalitis call

your child's doctor immediately.

Pneumonia, infection of the bone or infections of the throat, scarlet fever

and occasionally meningitis can also occur.

In past years we have seen a number of episodes of a condition called Reye's

Syndrome which results in a comatose child. Initially, this was seen as a

complication in children with chicken pox who received aspirin. However, since

the

use of aspirin in children has ceased, we are no longer seeing cases of this

dangerous condition.

Herpes zoster or shingles is a long term complication often occurring often

as long as 40 to 60 years after the initial chicken pox infection.

Chicken pox can cause severe malformations in the unborn fetus if the

pregnant mother is exposed during the first 20 weeks of pregnancy. See our

handout,

Chickenpox and Pregnancy.

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HI

Our Kristi was over hers in less than half a day. had it about two

days, a couple of days and about a week. I had it when I was

11 for over 2 weeks.

Hope he is well soon.

Dad to , Kristi, (all three Down syndrome) and (Cri du

chat)

Husband to C. in Mo.

Uncle Daddy to and in Calif

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> I can't believe I am posting this..........

>

> , who is almost 11 has a bad case of chicken pox. The vaccine

> doesn't come with a booster - and he was exposed at school 2 weeks ago

(they

> " forgot " to tell me). He had a high fever for two days and according to

> Katey, she went up stairs yesterday morning for just a minute and when she

> returned, he was covered in spots. I know two hours earlier he was spot

> free. He even has them in his mouth.

>

> He hasn't eaten in 2 days, but he is drinking and taking his advil and

> benedryl.

>

> So, if any moms can refresh my memory about how long the outbreak will

last,

> please do so.

>

>

>

>

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Hi

I'll respond to my own message because I forgot to add how amazing Kristi

is. She never has anything over a day. Yesterday she had some kind of

stomach virus or something of that nature that hit her about 9 in the

morning. By bed time she was all well. This 12 hour illness was one of her

longest ones. Of course, she's also the kid who at 6 got into one of the

other kid's medicines and took too much of it--the only effect was that a

few minutes later she recited her ABC's for the first time and counted to

20. I can't remember what the prescription was. We really were upset with

the pharmacy for not having the usual child proof cap on it. But we also

wrote the drug company that made it and asked if it could be marketed as a

developmental medicine. They never responded.

Chicken Pox

>

>

> > I can't believe I am posting this..........

> >

> > , who is almost 11 has a bad case of chicken pox. The vaccine

> > doesn't come with a booster - and he was exposed at school 2 weeks ago

> (they

> > " forgot " to tell me). He had a high fever for two days and according to

> > Katey, she went up stairs yesterday morning for just a minute and when

she

> > returned, he was covered in spots. I know two hours earlier he was spot

> > free. He even has them in his mouth.

> >

> > He hasn't eaten in 2 days, but he is drinking and taking his advil and

> > benedryl.

> >

> > So, if any moms can refresh my memory about how long the outbreak will

> last,

> > please do so.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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because they got infected and subsequently caused

> septacaemia,

Sue,

How did you know he had septacemia? My biggest worry with these things is

that will develop a bacterial infection in his blood stream.

He's been fever free most of the day (without advil) and he finally ate a

little bit of food.

BTW, I would never leave alone in the hospital, either. I will get

people to sit for me for short periods of time. I honestly do not know how

mothers who have other children do it when they have a sick child in the

hospital. That must be very agonizing - especially when they have no one to

sit with their other children.

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In a message dated 7/26/2004 8:29:43 PM Central Daylight Time,

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> I honestly do not know how

> mothers who have other children do it when they have a sick child in the

> hospital. That must be very agonizing - especially when they have no one to

> sit with their other children.

>

It is hard to leave your other ones even when daddy is the stay at home

sitter (my husband, too , would take his vacation or sick days to stay with

kids). When Micah was in hospital second time my husband called me panicked

that Caleb was screaming his ear hurt what should he do??? Take him to the ER

now. He had a very bad ear infection and here I was in one hospital and my

poor Caleb in the other with his dad, telling him " I want mom " Talk about the

mommy guilts. It sure ain't easy being a mom lol!!!

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I will get

people to sit for me for short periods of time. I honestly do not know how

mothers who have other children do it when they have a sick child in the

hospital.

I have three SIL that are nurses .... they STRESS to us that NO ONE should

be left alone in the hospital .... try and have a family member present at all

times .... because they see so much that goes wrong or is done improperly and

because of the comfort and support having a family member present offers the

patient.

Cheryl in VA

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Hi ,

My son had chicken pox age 11 months and he was quite ill and there was infection involved. Try eosin which is a bright red liquid which dries up the lesions and prevents infection. Unfortunately it is a dye and it doesn't look pretty but it works. My son had another bad infected "chicken pox" episode last year and we used germolene OINTMENT which cleared the infection and it contains local anaesthetic.

Best of luck

Ann

chicken pox

has chicken pox - lots of great big ones, hard to keep clean given his affinity with dirt and in this heat he is sweating so they are not scabbing over. Strange thing is he has had 3 suspected cases of chicken pox before but only with a few spots so no one would categorically say it was chicken pox but he still had to stay at home etc. The first suspected case was if memory serves around the time of the MMR!?!, is it possible for a child to harbour a virus like this and not really display all the symptoms? HOpefully it means it is coming out, only recent change on biomed front was changing from biokult to therbio complete (definitely less verbal stimming) and introducing L-carnitine. Any tips on ensuring pox don't get infected.

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Hello ,

I hope is better very soon.

I wondered whether list mates would suggest using anti-virals after it's over.(Or now?)

Also, with his raw skin, have you thought of asking at the pharmacy about the advisability of using one of those spray on products called "spray skin" or something similar to prevent the worst areas getting infected? if he's anything like Henry, it's a waste of time using sticking plaster.

Margaret

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Hello ,

I hope is better very soon.

I wondered whether list mates would suggest using anti-virals after it's over.(Or now?)

Also, with his raw skin, have you thought of asking at the pharmacy about the advisability of using one of those spray on products called "spray skin" or something similar to prevent the worst areas getting infected? if he's anything like Henry, it's a waste of time using sticking plaster.

Margaret

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Thanks Margaret

I have not heard of this product - will look into it, but the patches

are SLOWLY improving. I did wonder about anti virals but it is not an

area I have delved into yet, but did dip into the posts here. Still

concentrating on the bowels, supplementation and soon chelation

(autumn time).

>

> Hello ,

> I hope is better very soon.

> I wondered whether list mates would suggest using anti-virals after

it's over.(Or now?)

> Also, with his raw skin, have you thought of asking at the pharmacy

about the advisability of using one of those spray on products

called " spray skin " or something similar to prevent the worst areas

getting infected? if he's anything like Henry, it's a waste of time

using sticking plaster.

> Margaret

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Lily (7 at the time) got a mild case of chicken pox despite being

vaccinated. She pretty much felt okay, a little tired with a low

fever, however the fever was well gone by the time the sores were

drying up. I'd check in w/his doc.

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Lily (7 at the time) got a mild case of chicken pox despite being

vaccinated. She pretty much felt okay, a little tired with a low

fever, however the fever was well gone by the time the sores were

drying up. I'd check in w/his doc.

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