measles

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:

I'd definitely take him in to make sure it's not measles. I know there are

possible complications from measles, so best to be sure. I have a great

program called " Home Medical Advisor Pro " that has pictures of every disease

you can think of. Some pretty graphic pictures of horrible injuries as well,

I might add. The measles rash they show is very distinctive and concerning

looking, large blotches that are quite angry looking and cover a large area.

Plus they talk about " Koplik spots " which are small white lesions inside the

cheeks that people get when they have measles. Looked pretty obvious in the

picture, but I've also heard it can look like big grains of salt or white

sand. Have you checked the lining of his cheeks for that?

I also wanted to mention that there have been " wierd " rashes going around in

different places. I remember someone on the list talking about it in their

area (Indiana or Michigan maybe?) and my sister's baby had one my sister

thought was chicken pox but doc thought not... come to find out there's some

mysterious rash going around (central Illinois) that nobody could figure out.

Never heard if they did figure it out either.

Just a couple thoughts...

(mom to , 3yrs old, polysaccharide antibody def)

[Guest guest]

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Can you e-mail me some of those pics to my aol account (dalurkes)? I

have searched everywhere on the web & nowhere have I seen a picture

of measles. It would be nice to have a frame of reference.

I haven't looked in his cheeks. . .I read about it, but it just

slipped my mind. He hates to have his mouth looked at & the only way

I know he's got teeth is because he accidentally nipped me one time

while nursing. (ouch!)

Ray, mother to Tabitha (age 6), Autumn, age 4 (IgG def.,

asthma, chronic sinusitis, and allergies), and Duncan (11 months)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 02/04/2006 23:19:04 GMT Daylight Time, C.Forrest@... writes:

Just seen a news item which makes me puke.A child has died from measles. Whilst I am sorry for the parents, it was reported that this is the first child to die from measles in 14 years. What about all the children, hundreds of thousands, whose guts have been damaged by the bloody MMR vaccine? They dare to suggest that this one child has died because of reduced take up of the MMR.

>>>Bet they didntp; say whether this kid had had its MMR thought di they. If it worked then they wouldn;t have got the measles.

My guess is the kid was vaccinated other wsie the story would be wicked parents - it wa their fault..................

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

There was a huge mumps outbreak last year at my uni, almost all my

friends got it despite the fact they have all had MMR. I never had

MMR and despite being around lots of my friends at the " contagious

period " I never got mumps. The uni called us all in for booster

jabs, as we were told the reason the jabs hadn't worked was because

we hadn't had the booster. Lots of people I know had the booster but

still went on to get mumps. Again, I didn't have the booster, and I

didn't get mumps. At the time lots of unis were getting outbreaks

and the line taken in the media was because MMR wasn't around when

we were babies, but what wasn't reported was that we all had them in

school, I distinctly remember my infant school hall being turned

into a day clinic! Makes you really think.

>

>

> In a message dated 02/04/2006 23:19:04 GMT Daylight Time,

> C.Forrest@... writes:

>

> Just seen a news item which makes me puke.

> A child has died from measles. Whilst I am sorry for the parents,

it

> was reported that this is the first child to die from measles in

14

> years. What about all the children, hundreds of thousands, whose

guts

> have been damaged by the bloody MMR vaccine? They dare to

suggest

> that this one child has died because of reduced take up of the

MMR.

>

>

>

> >>>Bet they didntp; say whether this kid had had its MMR thought

di they. If

> it worked then they wouldn;t have got the measles.

>

> My guess is the kid was vaccinated other wsie the story would be

wicked

> parents - it wa their fault..................

>

> Mandi x

>

[Guest guest]

Some people use the Vitamin A protocol of

Dr. McCandless to address measles.

--- Kersten Rojas <kerstenrojas@...> wrote:

> Sorry if this is a duplicated post posted at a

> different time. I think I remember reading about it

> before, but my mind is on overdrive, as usual these

> days...

>

> I suspect my child has viral issues, plus the

> latent Measles. Is their a test to test for such?

>

> Last, does Valtrex help rid the body of the

> Measles virus as well as other viruses?

>

> Thank you for any input.

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Some people use the Vitamin A protocol of

Dr. McCandless to address measles.

--- Kersten Rojas <kerstenrojas@...> wrote:

> Sorry if this is a duplicated post posted at a

> different time. I think I remember reading about it

> before, but my mind is on overdrive, as usual these

> days...

>

> I suspect my child has viral issues, plus the

> latent Measles. Is their a test to test for such?

>

> Last, does Valtrex help rid the body of the

> Measles virus as well as other viruses?

>

> Thank you for any input.

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Thank you! Does anyone know by chance what this protocal is? And if their is a test for measles? Thank you!!!!! Cowen <mlcowen@...> wrote: Some people use the Vitamin A protocol ofDr. McCandless to address measles.--- Kersten Rojas <kerstenrojas@...> wrote:> Sorry if this is a duplicated post posted at a> different time. I think I remember reading about it> before, but my mind is on overdrive, as usual these> days...> > I suspect my child has viral issues, plus the> latent Measles. Is their a test to test for such? > > Last, does Valtrex help rid the body of the> Measles virus as well as

other viruses? > > Thank you for any input.> __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Thank you! Does anyone know by chance what this protocal is? And if their is a test for measles? Thank you!!!!! Cowen <mlcowen@...> wrote: Some people use the Vitamin A protocol ofDr. McCandless to address measles.--- Kersten Rojas <kerstenrojas@...> wrote:> Sorry if this is a duplicated post posted at a> different time. I think I remember reading about it> before, but my mind is on overdrive, as usual these> days...> > I suspect my child has viral issues, plus the> latent Measles. Is their a test to test for such? > > Last, does Valtrex help rid the body of the> Measles virus as well as

other viruses? > > Thank you for any input.> __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Vitamin A can be toxic at these doses, so

be careful.

According to Dr. McC as I read the link given

below:

400,000 IU using Klaire's product

once a day for 2 days.

10,000 to 25,000 IU depending upon the

weight of the child once a day thereafter as followup.

Do not repeat 400,000 IU for at least 6 months.

See the files section of ChelatingKids2 for

Dr. McCandless' words on the subject.

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--- Kersten Rojas <kerstenrojas@...> wrote:

> Thank you! Does anyone know by chance what this

> protocal is? And if their is a test for measles?

>

> Thank you!!!!!

>

> Cowen <mlcowen@...> wrote:

> Some people use the Vitamin A protocol of

> Dr. McCandless to address measles.

>

>

>

>

> --- Kersten Rojas <kerstenrojas@...> wrote:

>

> > Sorry if this is a duplicated post posted at a

> > different time. I think I remember reading about

> it

> > before, but my mind is on overdrive, as usual

> these

> > days...

> >

> > I suspect my child has viral issues, plus the

> > latent Measles. Is their a test to test for such?

>

> >

> > Last, does Valtrex help rid the body of the

> > Measles virus as well as other viruses?

> >

> > Thank you for any input.

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Vitamin A can be toxic at these doses, so

be careful.

According to Dr. McC as I read the link given

below:

400,000 IU using Klaire's product

once a day for 2 days.

10,000 to 25,000 IU depending upon the

weight of the child once a day thereafter as followup.

Do not repeat 400,000 IU for at least 6 months.

See the files section of ChelatingKids2 for

Dr. McCandless' words on the subject.

chelatingkids2-subscribe

http://f5.grp.fs.com/v1/MLV7ROK6NV0nRwaitWLYFnjsIBpQ8sKHWxUDZQFbsdk5oQ_eHTQ\

-CNID-TZa2NnOD2Ah-dhA7iLjNfwpXk3sJhBTkf0J/Vitamin%20A%20-%20Megadose

--- Kersten Rojas <kerstenrojas@...> wrote:

> Thank you! Does anyone know by chance what this

> protocal is? And if their is a test for measles?

>

> Thank you!!!!!

>

> Cowen <mlcowen@...> wrote:

> Some people use the Vitamin A protocol of

> Dr. McCandless to address measles.

>

>

>

>

> --- Kersten Rojas <kerstenrojas@...> wrote:

>

> > Sorry if this is a duplicated post posted at a

> > different time. I think I remember reading about

> it

> > before, but my mind is on overdrive, as usual

> these

> > days...

> >

> > I suspect my child has viral issues, plus the

> > latent Measles. Is their a test to test for such?

>

> >

> > Last, does Valtrex help rid the body of the

> > Measles virus as well as other viruses?

> >

> > Thank you for any input.

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Valtrex is not designed for treating measles, but many children with

high measles markers have done well with it. There are articles in the

literature including work by Dr. Wakefield that confirms that measles

can work synergistically with herpes strain viruses and create a higher

total viral burden. It seems possible that working on one benefits the

other.

- Stan

>

> Sorry if this is a duplicated post posted at a different time. I

think I remember reading about it before, but my mind is on overdrive,

as usual these days...

>

> I suspect my child has viral issues, plus the latent Measles. Is

their a test to test for such?

>

> Last, does Valtrex help rid the body of the Measles virus as well

as other viruses?

>

> Thank you for any input.

>

[Guest guest]

Valtrex is not designed for treating measles, but many children with

high measles markers have done well with it. There are articles in the

literature including work by Dr. Wakefield that confirms that measles

can work synergistically with herpes strain viruses and create a higher

total viral burden. It seems possible that working on one benefits the

other.

- Stan

>

> Sorry if this is a duplicated post posted at a different time. I

think I remember reading about it before, but my mind is on overdrive,

as usual these days...

>

> I suspect my child has viral issues, plus the latent Measles. Is

their a test to test for such?

>

> Last, does Valtrex help rid the body of the Measles virus as well

as other viruses?

>

> Thank you for any input.

>

[Guest guest]

My two kids, ages 1.5 and 3.5 are unvaccintated. My pediatrician mentioned to

me about the measles outbreak. I read that 90% of measles cases are among the

unvacdintated. I now need support to remind myself why this vaccine is not a

good idea. --

[Guest guest]

I have a 2 year old and a 5 year old and they are both unvaccinated. I'm pretty sure that my 2 year old just got over the measles. It wasn't pleasant for him, but it wasn't that horrible either. He had about 5 days of a high fever and after his fever broke he had a bad cough/lung thing that lasted for another week. He is now fully recovered and no worse for the wear. Honestly I'm glad that he had it so now I don't have to worry about it anymore. I did not want to risk the side effects of the vaccine. Both of my children have gut dysbiosis and the live viruses in the MMR could cause problems in their gut. Not to mention the neurological side effects that I have seen many children develop as a result of the MMR. The "experts" can say what they want to about the safety

of vaccines but when you see that they are not safe over and over again and you see living proof in front of you, well....I can't ignore it. Two weeks of discomfort is a lot better to me than a lifetime of trying to reverse neurological damage.CameronFrom: michimews <michimews@...>Vaccinations Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 11:03 PMSubject: measles

My two kids, ages 1.5 and 3.5 are unvaccintated. My pediatrician mentioned to me about the measles outbreak. I read that 90% of measles cases are among the unvacdintated. I now need support to remind myself why this vaccine is not a good idea. --

[Guest guest]

At 09:03 PM 7/30/2011, you wrote:

My two kids, ages 1.5 and 3.5

are unvaccintated. My pediatrician mentioned to me about the

measles outbreak. I read that 90% of measles cases are among the

unvacdintated. I now need support to remind myself why this vaccine

is not a good idea. --

Measles is not a killer disease

Better to have immunity from it

The vaccine comes in MMR and not separate

MMR is harmful - I have seen injury at all ages from singles or

MMR

Most measles are in vaccinated

Next class coming up on Childhood Diseases starts Sept 9

http://www.wellwithin1.com/childdiseaseclass.htm

for all the details.

Sheri

listowner

Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian

Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA

Vaccines -

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Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy

Online/email courses - next classes start September 9

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My son got measles at 18 months FROM the vaccine. He also now has autism. I wish everyday I would have not vaccinated him. I would have much rather him contracted natural measles virus and been spared the negative neurological effects. a K Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "michimews" <michimews@...>Sender: Vaccinations Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 04:03:56 -0000<Vaccinations >Reply Vaccinations Subject: measles My two kids, ages 1.5 and 3.5 are unvaccintated. My pediatrician mentioned to me about the measles outbreak. I read that 90% of measles cases are among the unvacdintated. I now need support to remind myself why this vaccine is not a good idea. --

[Guest guest]

Also, those who are vaccinated usually don't get diagnosed precisely because they're vaccinated. They call the symptoms something else like "hives" or "a rash" or "a viral illness." In a friend of mine's case, she knew her child had pertussis, but all the other kids in the day care had a "summer flu."

Doctors are also much quicker to diagnose an unvaxed child. I've heard "well, I wouldn't normally consider it but since your child didn't get vaccinated, I think we ought to consider..." whatever disease.

And don't forget the biggest reason not to vaccinate: they don't work anyway.

Winnie

Re: measlesVaccinations > At 09:03 PM 7/30/2011, you wrote:> >My two kids, ages 1.5 and 3.5 are unvaccintated. My > pediatrician > >mentioned to me about the measles outbreak. I read that 90% of > >measles cases are among the unvacdintated. I now need support > to > >remind myself why this vaccine is not a good idea. --> > Measles is not a killer disease> Better to have immunity from it> The vaccine comes in MMR and not separate> MMR is harmful - I have seen injury at all ages from singles or MMR> > Most measles are in vaccinated> > Next class coming up on Childhood Diseases starts Sept 9> http://www.wellwithin1.com/childdiseaseclass.htm> for all the details.> > Sheri> listowner> > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA> Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Homeopathy > http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com> Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy > Online/email > courses - next classes start September 9>

[Guest guest]

You are precisely correct. When my niece and my son had a fever with a viral rash at less than a year old, the young intern did not diagnose it as measles. Both were too young to have even had the MMR which was at 18 months at the time. The older doctor diagnosed the condition correctly.They are both healthy adults today with lifetime immunity to measles, thank G-d!Now, where did our children get measles if it has been eradicated? ~ Maureen R. Gradvohl ~ From: "wharrison@..." <wharrison@...>Vaccinations Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:14 PMSubject: Re: measles

Also, those who are vaccinated usually don't get diagnosed precisely because they're vaccinated. They call the symptoms something else like "hives" or "a rash" or "a viral illness." In a friend of mine's case, she knew her child had pertussis, but all the other kids in the day care had a "summer flu."

Doctors are also much quicker to diagnose an unvaxed child. I've heard "well, I wouldn't normally consider it but since your child didn't get vaccinated, I think we ought to consider..." whatever disease.

And don't forget the biggest reason not to vaccinate: they don't work anyway.

Winnie

Re: measlesVaccinations > At 09:03 PM 7/30/2011, you wrote:> >My two kids, ages 1.5 and 3.5 are unvaccintated. My > pediatrician > >mentioned to me about the measles outbreak. I read that 90% of > >measles cases are among the unvacdintated. I now need support > to > >remind myself why this vaccine is not a good idea. --> > Measles is not a killer disease> Better to have immunity from it> The vaccine comes in MMR and not separate> MMR is harmful - I have seen injury at all ages from singles or MMR> > Most measles are in vaccinated> > Next class coming up on Childhood Diseases starts Sept 9> http://www.wellwithin1.com/childdiseaseclass.htm> for all the

details.> > Sheri> listowner> > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA> Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Homeopathy > http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com> Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy > Online/email > courses - next classes start September 9>

[Guest guest]

To tell the truth, few doctors under the age of 45 know what a real case of measles looks like. They have never seen a true clinical case come in for proper diagnosis. I think your granddaughter is having an allergic reaction. The fact that her eyes are swollen shut, and a rash more like hives is indicative of a reaction. Read Dr. Mendelsohn's book How To raise A Healthy Child ... In spite of your doctor ; there is a chapter on treating measles, mumps, and rubella and identifying those diseases. Measles typically has a flat rash and the child is photo sensitive. You do not seem to mention that. ~ Maureen R. Gradvohl

~ From: ~tammy~ <tamrowland@...>Vaccinations Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 2:39 PMSubject: Re: measles



It's funny that this topic has come up because my granddaughter was diagnosed with Measles

yesterday and we do not think she has measles.

Here eyes are swollen almost shut and she has cracks in her skin, around her mouth and eyes.

She does have a rash much like hives or an allergic reaction to something she ate!

What makes me so mad is the dr. just ASSUMES she has measles because she is un-vaccinated.

He told her just from looking at her that, "YES, she has measles and sends her home without any

further testing or questioning.

He is placing her in danger because she could be having a bad allergic reaction to a plant she

ate outside or what? I just do not know. Why are un-vaccinated children turned away like this?

It's almost as if the doctors feel that only un-vaccinated children are coming down with measles and

they do not even consider the possiblity of a vaccinated child even having or spreading the measles???

~tam

Re: measlesVaccinations > At 09:03 PM 7/30/2011, you wrote:> >My two kids, ages 1.5 and 3.5 are unvaccintated. My > pediatrician > >mentioned to me about the measles outbreak. I read that 90% of > >measles cases are among the unvacdintated. I now need support > to > >remind myself why this vaccine is not a good idea. --> > Measles is not a killer disease> Better to have immunity from it> The vaccine comes in MMR and not separate> MMR is harmful - I have seen injury at all ages from singles or MMR> > Most measles are in vaccinated> > Next class coming up on Childhood Diseases starts Sept 9> http://www.wellwithin1.com/childdiseaseclass.htm> for all the details.> > Sheri> listowner> > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA> Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Homeopathy > http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com> Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy > Online/email > courses - next classes start September 9>

[Guest guest]

And also it is interesting that when my son got measles from the vaccine itself, the doctor just sent us home and told us to give him some TLC but not to worry, that most measles cases were mild with no problems. Yet, if an unvaccinated child gets it everyone starts freaking out and shouting, "Vaccinate". a kSent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "~tammy~" <tamrowland@...>Sender: Vaccinations Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:39:09 -0600<Vaccinations >Reply Vaccinations Subject: Re: measles It's funny that this topic has come up because my granddaughter was diagnosed with Measles yesterday and we do not think she has measles. Here eyes are swollen almost shut and she has cracks in her skin, around her mouth and eyes. She does have a rash much like hives or an allergic reaction to something she ate! What makes me so mad is the dr. just ASSUMES she has measles because she is un-vaccinated. He told her just from looking at her that, "YES, she has measles and sends her home without any further testing or questioning. He is placing her in danger because she could be having a bad allergic reaction to a plant she ate outside or what? I just do not know. Why are un-vaccinated children turned away like this? It's almost as if the doctors feel that only un-vaccinated children are coming down with measles andthey do not even consider the possiblity of a vaccinated child even having or spreading the measles??? ~tam Re: measlesVaccinations > At 09:03 PM 7/30/2011, you wrote:> >My two kids, ages 1.5 and 3.5 are unvaccintated. My > pediatrician > >mentioned to me about the measles outbreak. I read that 90% of > >measles cases are among the unvacdintated. I now need support > to > >remind myself why this vaccine is not a good idea. --> > Measles is not a killer disease> Better to have immunity from it> The vaccine comes in MMR and not separate> MMR is harmful - I have seen injury at all ages from singles or MMR> > Most measles are in vaccinated> > Next class coming up on Childhood Diseases starts Sept 9> http://www.wellwithin1.com/childdiseaseclass.htm> for all the details.> > Sheri> listowner> > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA> Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Homeopathy > http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com> Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy > Online/email > courses - next classes start September 9>

[Guest guest]



It's funny that this topic has come up because my granddaughter was diagnosed with Measles

yesterday and we do not think she has measles.

Here eyes are swollen almost shut and she has cracks in her skin, around her mouth and eyes.

She does have a rash much like hives or an allergic reaction to something she ate!

What makes me so mad is the dr. just ASSUMES she has measles because she is un-vaccinated.

He told her just from looking at her that, "YES, she has measles and sends her home without any

further testing or questioning.

He is placing her in danger because she could be having a bad allergic reaction to a plant she

ate outside or what? I just do not know. Why are un-vaccinated children turned away like this?

It's almost as if the doctors feel that only un-vaccinated children are coming down with measles and

they do not even consider the possiblity of a vaccinated child even having or spreading the measles???

~tam

Re: measlesVaccinations > At 09:03 PM 7/30/2011, you wrote:> >My two kids, ages 1.5 and 3.5 are unvaccintated. My > pediatrician > >mentioned to me about the measles outbreak. I read that 90% of > >measles cases are among the unvacdintated. I now need support > to > >remind myself why this vaccine is not a good idea. --> > Measles is not a killer disease> Better to have immunity from it> The vaccine comes in MMR and not separate> MMR is harmful - I have seen injury at all ages from singles or MMR> > Most measles are in vaccinated> > Next class coming up on Childhood Diseases starts Sept 9> http://www.wellwithin1.com/childdiseaseclass.htm> for all the details.> > Sheri> listowner> > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA> Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Homeopathy > http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com> Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy > Online/email > courses - next classes start September 9>

[Guest guest]

Unbelievable--yet not. Unvacccinated children are treated like this to punish the parents for not allowing the doctors to make the decisions--and money--regarding vaccinations.

You can look here for a description of measles (not that I trust the CDC on much) but also pictures: (http://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/overview.html)

Eyes swollen shut? It sounds as if she touched her eyes with something that got on her hands. Does she have a fever, runny nose or cough? Is the rash starting at the head and spreading down? Did the doc even check inside her mouth for white spots?

I would take her to the ER, tell them she's up-to-date on shots when they ask, and see what they give for a diagnosis. I bet they won't even mention measles. They will, however, likely want to give her Benadryl, so you need to decide how you'd want it treated. I'd use homeopathics, quercetin and Vit. C (and have for hives). Then I'd have my lawyer send the doctor the ER bill while I was busy finding another doctor.

Winnie

Re: measles> Vaccinations > > > At 09:03 PM 7/30/2011, you wrote:> > >My two kids, ages 1.5 and 3.5 are unvaccintated. My > > pediatrician > > >mentioned to me about the measles outbreak. I read that 90% > of > > >measles cases are among the unvacdintated. I now need > support > > to > > >remind myself why this vaccine is not a good idea. --> > > > Measles is not a killer disease> > Better to have immunity from it> > The vaccine comes in MMR and not separate> > MMR is harmful - I have seen injury at all ages from singles > or MMR> > > > Most measles are in vaccinated> > > > Next class coming up on Childhood Diseases starts Sept 9> > http://www.wellwithin1.com/childdiseaseclass.htm> > for all the details.> > > > Sheri> > listowner> > > > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA> > Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ > Homeopathy > > http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com> > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy > > Online/email > > courses - next classes start September 9> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Unbelievable--yet not. Unvacccinated children are treated like this to punish the parents for not allowing the doctors to make the decisions--and money--regarding vaccinations.

You can look here for a description of measles (not that I trust the CDC on much) but also pictures: (http://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/overview.html)

Eyes swollen shut? It sounds as if she touched her eyes with something that got on her hands. Does she have a fever, runny nose or cough? Is the rash starting at the head and spreading down? Did the doc even check inside her mouth for white spots?

I would take her to the ER, tell them she's up-to-date on shots when they ask, and see what they give for a diagnosis. I bet they won't even mention measles. They will, however, likely want to give her Benadryl, so you need to decide how you'd want it treated. I'd use homeopathics, quercetin and Vit. C (and have for hives). Then I'd have my lawyer send the doctor the ER bill while I was busy finding another doctor.

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From what you described about your child, I wonder why you don't suspect whooping cough, not measles. Measles has a distinctive rash and you didn't mention that. It's not known for having lung/cough symptoms, but maybe your child could be susceptible to that sequelae, especially if the high fever was suppressed with tylenol or motrin. Still, it could have been pertussis, rather than measles.

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Oh I know AND if she were vaxxed he’d be saying well it can’t possibly be measles, she is vaxxed Nita, mom to: 18, Jon 16, 14, 12, 9, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 5, Isaac 3 and , born 3/1/11http://momof6.dotphoto.com for possibly current pictures and http://nitasspot.blogspot.comLearn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long enough to make them all yourself.