Re: Help! adult needing vaccines

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How do you or anyone else know if the disease will be less severe if you are vaccinated? If you get a mild case of the flu, but then have crippling arthritis from a vaccine, how is that healthy? ~ Maureen R. Gradvohl ~ From: mocolvinhere <mohere@...>Vaccinations Sent: Sun, April

24, 2011 5:46:27 PMSubject: Help! adult needing vaccines

So....we chose not to vaccinate our now 4 yr old son for so many obvious reasons....

I, the mother, however am in a confusing situation.

I was in a car accident in 1988 and lost my spleen. I recently went to a specialist to talk about preventative measure to ensure my health and longevity since I am an older mom (45) with a 4 yr old. I was thinking nutrition, supplements...etc.....

The advice given: get vaccinated - Oh I should have known.

Flu shot every year

pneumococcal vaccine every 5 yrs

HIB (haemopholus) vaccine

meningococcal vaccine every 5 yrs

I asked what the likely hood was that I would contact Meningitis and she said "chances higher due to no spleen".....I was also told to have antibiotics on hand if I ever develop a fever over 101 to help prevent Sepsis - a severe and potentially life-threatening condition in which infection-causing bacteria spreads throughout the bloodstream and/or tissues. The most common cause of sepsis is infection with Streptococcus pneumoniae, also known as the pneumococcus.

Ugh! I'm so frustrated, but also concerned because there are considerations not to over look..I'm not concerned about developing autism (or should I be?).... I am concerned however, about getting severely ill since my immune system is challenged and i can't fight off the bacteria one with a spleen can. I know the vaccines can't keep me from contacting the above diseases, but it will lower the severity.....so I've been told.

All thoughts are welcome.

Thanks!

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At 06:46 PM 4/24/2011, you wrote:

So....we chose not to vaccinate

our now 4 yr old son for so many obvious reasons....

I, the mother, however am in a confusing situation.

I was in a car accident in 1988 and lost my spleen. I recently went to a

specialist to talk about preventative measure to ensure my health and

longevity since I am an older mom (45) with a 4 yr old. I was thinking

nutrition, supplements...etc.....

The advice given: get vaccinated - Oh I should have known.

Flu shot every year

pneumococcal vaccine every 5 yrs

HIB (haemopholus) vaccine

meningococcal vaccine every 5 yrs

LUDICROUS

What a good way to ruin your other organs too

I asked what the likely hood was

that I would contact Meningitis and she said " chances higher due to

no spleen " .....I was also told to have antibiotics on hand if I ever

develop a fever over 101 to help prevent Sepsis - a severe and

potentially life-threatening condition in which infection-causing

bacteria spreads throughout the bloodstream and/or tissues. The most

common cause of sepsis is infection with Streptococcus pneumoniae, also

known as the pneumococcus.

Ugh! I'm so frustrated, but also concerned because there are

considerations not to over look..I'm not concerned about developing

autism (or should I be?).... I am concerned however, about getting

severely ill since my immune system is challenged and i can't fight off

the bacteria one with a spleen can. I know the vaccines can't keep me

from contacting the above diseases, but it will lower the severity.....so

I've been told.

All thoughts are welcome.

How can injecting toxins be good for you?

NO vaccine gives immunity ever, so why bother and risk the

danger?

Let me know if you have more questions

Sheri

Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian

Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA

Vaccines -

http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Homeopathy

http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com

Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy

Online/email courses - next classes start April 22

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they are able to go into a parallel universe and in that universe you get

the vaccine and this universe you don't

They they compare the two

Sheri

At 07:07 PM 4/24/2011, you wrote:

How do you or anyone else know

if the disease will be less severe if you are vaccinated? If you

get a mild case of the flu, but then have crippling arthritis from a

vaccine, how is that healthy?

~ Maureen R. Gradvohl ~

From: mocolvinhere

<mohere@...>

Vaccinations

Sent: Sun, April 24, 2011 5:46:27 PM

Subject: Help! adult needing vaccines

So....we chose not to vaccinate our now 4 yr old son for so many obvious

reasons....

I, the mother, however am in a confusing situation.

I was in a car accident in 1988 and lost my spleen. I recently went to a

specialist to talk about preventative measure to ensure my health and

longevity since I am an older mom (45) with a 4 yr old. I was thinking

nutrition, supplements...etc.....

The advice given: get vaccinated - Oh I should have known.

Flu shot every year

pneumococcal vaccine every 5 yrs

HIB (haemopholus) vaccine

meningococcal vaccine every 5 yrs

I asked what the likely hood was that I would contact Meningitis and she

said " chances higher due to no spleen " .....I was also told to

have antibiotics on hand if I ever develop a fever over 101 to help

prevent Sepsis - a severe and potentially life-threatening condition in

which infection-causing bacteria spreads throughout the bloodstream

and/or tissues. The most common cause of sepsis is infection with

Streptococcus pneumoniae, also known as the pneumococcus.

Ugh! I'm so frustrated, but also concerned because there are

considerations not to over look..I'm not concerned about developing

autism (or should I be?).... I am concerned however, about getting

severely ill since my immune system is challenged and i can't fight off

the bacteria one with a spleen can. I know the vaccines can't keep me

from contacting the above diseases, but it will lower the severity.....so

I've been told.

All thoughts are welcome.

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Haha--yes, it is a special talent they have.

Winnie Help! adult needing vaccines> >> >> >> >So....we chose not to vaccinate our now 4 yr old son for so > many > >obvious reasons....> >> >I, the mother, however am in a confusing situation.> >> >I was in a car accident in 1988 and lost my spleen. I recently > went > >to a specialist to talk about preventative measure to ensure my > >health and longevity since I am an older mom (45) with a 4 yr > old. I > >was thinking nutrition, supplements...etc.....> >The advice given: get vaccinated - Oh I should have known.> >> >Flu shot every year> >pneumococcal vaccine every 5 yrs> >HIB (haemopholus) vaccine> >meningococcal vaccine every 5 yrs> >> >I asked what the likely hood was that I would contact > Meningitis and > >she said "chances higher due to no spleen".....I was also told > to > >have antibiotics on hand if I ever develop a fever over 101 to > help > >prevent Sepsis - a severe and potentially life-threatening > condition > >in which infection-causing bacteria spreads throughout the > >bloodstream and/or tissues. The most common cause of sepsis is > >infection with Streptococcus pneumoniae, also known as the > pneumococcus.>> >Ugh! I'm so frustrated, but also concerned because there are > >considerations not to over look..I'm not concerned about > developing > >autism (or should I be?).... I am concerned however, about > getting > >severely ill since my immune system is challenged and i can't > fight > >off the bacteria one with a spleen can. I know the vaccines > can't > >keep me from contacting the above diseases, but it will lower > the > >severity.....so I've been told.> >> >All thoughts are welcome.> >> >Thanks!> >> >> >> >> >> >>

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I'm not sure what kind of specialist you went to but if you went to an MD for preventive measures, all they know is to give vaccines and drugs. You need to go to someone who is in sync with your philosophy of health. You're smart to question their advice.

Anyway, my actual first thought was if not having a spleen makes it more difficult for you to fight disease, how are you going to fight off the vaccine's effects? How will your body produce antibodies or recover from any vaccine injury? They don't test vaccines (as it were) on unhealthy people for a reason. Likewise, they then should not give vaccines to unhealthy people, but there's no logic in Vaccine Land.

Even if vaccines did lower the severity of diseases, which they won't despite that mantra, you should make it a priority to keep toxic substances out of your body.

Don't waste your time or money (or health) on these jokers. Go to a qualified person. Do you have a good naturopath in your area?

Winnie

Help! adult needing vaccinesVaccinations > So....we chose not to vaccinate our now 4 yr old son for so many > obvious reasons....> > I, the mother, however am in a confusing situation.> > I was in a car accident in 1988 and lost my spleen. I recently > went to a specialist to talk about preventative measure to > ensure my health and longevity since I am an older mom (45) with > a 4 yr old. I was thinking nutrition, supplements...etc.....> The advice given: get vaccinated - Oh I should have known.> > Flu shot every year> pneumococcal vaccine every 5 yrs> HIB (haemopholus) vaccine > meningococcal vaccine every 5 yrs> > I asked what the likely hood was that I would contact Meningitis > and she said "chances higher due to no spleen".....I was also > told to have antibiotics on hand if I ever develop a fever over > 101 to help prevent Sepsis - a severe and potentially life-> threatening condition in which infection-causing bacteria > spreads throughout the bloodstream and/or tissues. The most > common cause of sepsis is infection with Streptococcus > pneumoniae, also known as the pneumococcus. > > Ugh! I'm so frustrated, but also concerned because there are > considerations not to over look..I'm not concerned about > developing autism (or should I be?).... I am concerned however, > about getting severely ill since my immune system is challenged > and i can't fight off the bacteria one with a spleen can. I know > the vaccines can't keep me from contacting the above diseases, > but it will lower the severity.....so I've been told.> > All thoughts are welcome.> > Thanks!> > > > >

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excellent advice, Winnie

Sheri

listowner

At 07:15 AM 4/25/2011, you wrote:

I'm not sure what kind of

specialist you went to but if you went to an MD for preventive measures,

all they know is to give vaccines and drugs. You need to go to someone

who is in sync with your philosophy of health. You're smart to question

their advice.

Anyway, my actual first thought was if not having a spleen makes it more

difficult for you to fight disease, how are you going to fight off the

vaccine's effects? How will your body produce antibodies or recover from

any vaccine injury? They don't test vaccines (as it were) on

unhealthy people for a reason. Likewise, they then should not give

vaccines to unhealthy people, but there's no logic in Vaccine Land.

Even if vaccines did lower the severity of diseases, which they won't

despite that mantra, you should make it a priority to keep toxic

substances out of your body.

Don't waste your time or money (or health) on these jokers. Go to a

qualified person. Do you have a good naturopath in your area?

Winnie

Help! adult needing vaccines

Vaccinations

> So....we chose not to vaccinate our now 4 yr old son for so many

> obvious reasons....

>

> I, the mother, however am in a confusing situation.

>

> I was in a car accident in 1988 and lost my spleen. I recently

> went to a specialist to talk about preventative measure to

> ensure my health and longevity since I am an older mom (45) with

> a 4 yr old. I was thinking nutrition, supplements...etc.....

> The advice given: get vaccinated - Oh I should have known.

>

> Flu shot every year

> pneumococcal vaccine every 5 yrs

> HIB (haemopholus) vaccine

> meningococcal vaccine every 5 yrs

>

> I asked what the likely hood was that I would contact Meningitis

> and she said " chances higher due to no spleen " .....I was

also

> told to have antibiotics on hand if I ever develop a fever over

> 101 to help prevent Sepsis - a severe and potentially life-

> threatening condition in which infection-causing bacteria

> spreads throughout the bloodstream and/or tissues. The most

> common cause of sepsis is infection with Streptococcus

> pneumoniae, also known as the pneumococcus.

>

> Ugh! I'm so frustrated, but also concerned because there are

> considerations not to over look..I'm not concerned about

> developing autism (or should I be?).... I am concerned however,

> about getting severely ill since my immune system is challenged

> and i can't fight off the bacteria one with a spleen can. I know

> the vaccines can't keep me from contacting the above diseases,

> but it will lower the severity.....so I've been told.

>

> All thoughts are welcome.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

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my spleen was removed at age 2.5 due to congenital disease - 40++ years later and still kicking and NO antibiotics here. My immune system is fabulous!

Maggie

-----Original Message-----From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ]On Behalf Of mocolvinhereSent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 9:46 PMVaccinations Subject: Help! adult needing vaccines

So....we chose not to vaccinate our now 4 yr old son for so many obvious reasons....I, the mother, however am in a confusing situation.I was in a car accident in 1988 and lost my spleen. I recently went to a specialist to talk about preventative measure to ensure my health and longevity since I am an older mom (45) with a 4 yr old. I was thinking nutrition, supplements...etc.....The advice given: get vaccinated - Oh I should have known.Flu shot every yearpneumococcal vaccine every 5 yrsHIB (haemopholus) vaccine meningococcal vaccine every 5 yrsI asked what the likely hood was that I would contact Meningitis and she said "chances higher due to no spleen".....I was also told to have antibiotics on hand if I ever develop a fever over 101 to help prevent Sepsis - a severe and potentially life-threatening condition in which infection-causing bacteria spreads throughout the bloodstream and/or tissues. The most common cause of sepsis is infection with Streptococcus pneumoniae, also known as the pneumococcus. Ugh! I'm so frustrated, but also concerned because there are considerations not to over look..I'm not concerned about developing autism (or should I be?).... I am concerned however, about getting severely ill since my immune system is challenged and i can't fight off the bacteria one with a spleen can. I know the vaccines can't keep me from contacting the above diseases, but it will lower the severity.....so I've been told.All thoughts are welcome.Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all your support!!!! I too, was wondering how I would fight off any

vaccine effects since my immunity is lower......not to vaccinate is my gut

instinct and I'm sticking to it. I live in Santa , CA and not sure of a

homeopath in the area, but will check it out.

>

> I'm not sure what kind of specialist you went to but if you went to an MD for

preventive measures, all they know is to give vaccines and drugs. You need to go

to someone who is in sync with your philosophy of health. You're smart to

question their advice.

>

> Anyway, my actual first thought was if not having a spleen makes it more

difficult for you to fight disease, how are you going to fight off the vaccine's

effects? How will your body produce antibodies or recover from any vaccine

injury? They don't test vaccines (as it were) on unhealthy people for a reason.

Likewise, they then should not give vaccines to unhealthy people, but there's no

logic in Vaccine Land.

>

> Even if vaccines did lower the severity of diseases, which they won't despite

that mantra, you should make it a priority to keep toxic substances out of your

body.

>

> Don't waste your time or money (or health) on these jokers. Go to a qualified

person. Do you have a good naturopath in your area?

>

> Winnie

>

>

>

>

> Help! adult needing vaccines

> Vaccinations

>

> > So....we chose not to vaccinate our now 4 yr old son for so many

> > obvious reasons....

> >

> > I, the mother, however am in a confusing situation.

> >

> > I was in a car accident in 1988 and lost my spleen. I recently

> > went to a specialist to talk about preventative measure to

> > ensure my health and longevity since I am an older mom (45) with

> > a 4 yr old. I was thinking nutrition, supplements...etc.....

> > The advice given: get vaccinated - Oh I should have known.

> >

> > Flu shot every year

> > pneumococcal vaccine every 5 yrs

> > HIB (haemopholus) vaccine

> > meningococcal vaccine every 5 yrs

> >

> > I asked what the likely hood was that I would contact Meningitis

> > and she said " chances higher due to no spleen " .....I was also

> > told to have antibiotics on hand if I ever develop a fever over

> > 101 to help prevent Sepsis - a severe and potentially life-

> > threatening condition in which infection-causing bacteria

> > spreads throughout the bloodstream and/or tissues. The most

> > common cause of sepsis is infection with Streptococcus

> > pneumoniae, also known as the pneumococcus.

> >

> > Ugh! I'm so frustrated, but also concerned because there are

> > considerations not to over look..I'm not concerned about

> > developing autism (or should I be?).... I am concerned however,

> > about getting severely ill since my immune system is challenged

> > and i can't fight off the bacteria one with a spleen can. I know

> > the vaccines can't keep me from contacting the above diseases,

> > but it will lower the severity.....so I've been told.

> >

> > All thoughts are welcome.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

have to be careful with who you choose for a homeopath

some better than others

I can refer you to someone who does acute care by phone or skype and

also chronic cases

Email me privately if want that info - she is in N.Cal

Sheri

>Thanks for all your support!!!! I too, was wondering how I would

>fight off any vaccine effects since my immunity is lower......not to

>vaccinate is my gut instinct and I'm sticking to it. I live in Santa

>, CA and not sure of a homeopath in the area, but will check it out.

>

>