Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 HI Cheryl Thank you for posting this picture of .as painful as it must be; for those who don’t know, along with her written and oral testimony, this is the same picture Cheryl presented( as a Mercury Free Vaccine Coalition panel member) before the Joint Comm on Public Health, in support of Rep. Brad Hill’s bill to ban thimerosal from vaccines in MA. A picture speaks a thousand words, and cries many times over that in tears it’s not over.....not in MA .not in any state we are just getting started...Suzanne Messina REAACH, MFVC From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of CherylGaudino Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:27 PM EOHarm Subject: Re: MMR My son had his at 13 months along with the 4th Hib, and that was in 1997. And he had no problem with it at all---yeah right. http://ph./group/EOHarm/photos/view/1bbc?b=1 Cheryl > > b/c they are trying to see just how young they can ruin them. > AND they are giving it on the same day as the chicken pox vaccine. > > MMR > > > >I see that now they're giving the MMR at 12 months instead of 18. I > > wonder why? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 i'd say it's also because babies don't talk much at 1 year. now parents can no longer say "My baby was talking and then stopped after their mmr." I guess that means the child was born autistic." M. Webster" <jwebs94@...> wrote: b/c they are trying to see just how young they can ruin them. AND they are giving it on the same day as the chicken pox vaccine. MMR >I see that now they're giving the MMR at 12 months instead of 18. I > wonder why? Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on FareChase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Cheryl, My 7 yr old had his MMR and Varicella on the same day with a physical reaction similar to that of your son's. I want to thank you because your post the other day urged me to go through pictures I have not been able to look at since the day both of my sons were diagnosed. Pictures from birth to three. I found all of the ones of my older son's reaction within a day of his vaccines. in one of them he has Caladryl lotion all over him to releive his hives. If only I knew then, I would have given him a sulphhydryl chelator instead. Then that still wouldn't help the viruses living in his gut! > > > > b/c they are trying to see just how young they can ruin them. > > AND they are giving it on the same day as the chicken pox vaccine. > > > > MMR > > > > > > >I see that now they're giving the MMR at 12 months instead of 18. I > > > wonder why? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 THEY want to give Hep B WITHIN 12 HOURS OF BIRTH. Sincerely, H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., D.D.G., I.O.M. nitrf@hotmailcom Website nitrf.org From: "CherylGaudino" <CherylGaudino@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: Re: MMRDate: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 02:27:27 -0000My son had his at 13 months along with the 4th Hib, and that was in 1997. And he had no problem with it at all---yeah right. http://ph./group/EOHarm/photos/view/1bbc?b=1Cheryl--- In EOHarm , " M. Webster" <jwebs94@...> wrote:>> b/c they are trying to see just how young they can ruin them.> AND they are giving it on the same day as the chicken pox vaccine.> > MMR> > > >I see that now they're giving the MMR at 12 months instead of 18. I> > wonder why? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 My daughter born in '97 got hers at 12 mos, so did my daughter in 99. My oldest had a reaction for 3 days, fever, rash, malaise. Only my '99 daughter has autism, though. Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 My children both received the MMR at 12 months and they are 11 and 10 years old. > > I see that now they're giving the MMR at 12 months instead of 18. I > wonder why? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Yes, this is exactly the vaccines my son got at his 12 month visit (MMR and Chicken pox). He had been extremely sick three weeks prior to receiving those. I didn't have a clue at the time that maybe I should hold off because he had been so sick a few weeks earlier. > > b/c they are trying to see just how young they can ruin them. > AND they are giving it on the same day as the chicken pox vaccine. > > MMR > > > >I see that now they're giving the MMR at 12 months instead of 18. I > > wonder why? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 for Cheryl They want to give Hep B VACCINE WITHIN 24 HOURS OF BIRTH. H. H.Fudenberg, M.D.,DDG.IOM Inman, SC 29349 (864) 592 8076 Website nitrf.org From: "CherylGaudino" <CherylGaudino@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: Re: MMRDate: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 02:27:27 -0000My son had his at 13 months along with the 4th Hib, and that was in 1997. And he had no problem with it at all---yeah right. http://ph./group/EOHarm/photos/view/1bbc?b=1Cheryl--- In EOHarm , " M. Webster" <jwebs94@...> wrote:>> b/c they are trying to see just how young they can ruin them.> AND they are giving it on the same day as the chicken pox vaccine.> > MMR> > > >I see that now they're giving the MMR at 12 months instead of 18. I> > wonder why? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Dear everyone, I'd be grateful if any parents out there whose children were born in 1999 could check their child's health record (that's the book health visitors give to new parents) to see what the advice is about the second MMR jab. I'm concerned that mine says it can be given 3 months after the first jab and other parents with books dated the same as mine have different advice ie that the 2nd jab should be given at 3-4 yrs of age. Thanks Gillian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 My son was born in 2001, but his red book seeis the same thing like yours son: 12-18 months MMR (1st dose) 2nd dose MMR - from 3 months after the first MMR 3-5Years Diphtheria, Tetanus, Polio booster In Autism Treatment , Mark <editorial.hillbury@...> wrote: > > Dear everyone, > > I'd be grateful if any parents out there whose children were born in 1999 > could check their child's health record (that's the book health visitors > give to new parents) to see what the advice is about the second MMR jab. > > I'm concerned that mine says it can be given 3 months after the first jab > and other parents with books dated the same as mine have different advice ie > that the 2nd jab should be given at 3-4 yrs of age. > > Thanks Gillian. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 In a message dated 16/06/2006 22:24:46 GMT Daylight Time, charmanhome@... writes: Very strange, I just looked at Joe's (born Nov 1998) and there is no mention at all of a 2nd MMR! It advises DPT at 2, 3 & 4 months, MMR 12-18 months, DPT 3-5 yrs, Heaf & BCG 10-14 yrs, 15-18 yrs tetanus & polio. Must be an old book, I guess >>Same as Sam's Jan 97, and Joe's Sept 95 and Tom's Aug 94 Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 > I'd be grateful if any parents out there whose children were born in 1999 > could check their child's health record (that's the book health visitors > give to new parents) to see what the advice is about the second MMR jab. > Hi Gillian, Very strange, I just looked at Joe's (born Nov 1998) and there is no mention at all of a 2nd MMR! It advises DPT at 2, 3 & 4 months, MMR 12- 18 months, DPT 3-5 yrs, Heaf & BCG 10-14 yrs, 15-18 yrs tetanus & polio. Must be an old book, I guess. His brothers (born 2001)states MMR2 at 3-5 yrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 I need help. My friend told me today that she is putting her son (5 months) on a vaccine schedule and she was specifically asking me about the MMR shot and autism. She also wants an answer to " what about the kids with autism who aren't vaccinated? " I gave her this link about MMR: http://drtenpenny.com/MMR_vac_not_holy_water.aspx What else can I give her? My ultimate goal here is to have her STOP vaccinating, at least I have her beginning to question her decision. It has only taken me 3 years! Adelyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 My daughter has almost recovered from autism and she is unvaxed. She contracted Lyme and at least one other tick disease from me in utero when I relapsed in my third trimester. Some have said the antibiotics that saved my life did it all, but then I know hundreds in my place who ended up with 'typical' children who did the same as I did. (but they went on to vax of course so what's the point?)But, my daughter has come a long way and is basically normal now using many healing modalities including careful use of antibiotics and no chemicals or OTC meds used... Unnecessary stuff... Ironically, she is never sick... Of course not with bacterial but even viruses. If she gets a cold it's so mild and gone quickly. Not the same for me! She was exposed to a minibus full of kids with chicken pox (vaxed) and never caught it ( or fought it off ). I don't have any kid diarrhea, high fevers, asthma, and puking stories that I hear from all the moms around me!!Brain inflammation is going to cause autism no matter the trigger! Lyme induced autism is now a recognized thing in the community among children born with Lyme (mom usually is untreated) and the child's autism resolves with treatment for the Lyme. It's not common but it has been seen.That said, I had a hep b vaccine in 97 for work which finally did me in ( I was misdiagnosed with CFS and not being treated... The vax overwhelmed my weakened immune system and poisoned me. I had my daughter 8 years later having had no vaccines since that one.. Basically I think vaxes cause 99.9% of autism and other things cause the rest. in NYOn Feb 22, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Deborah <gubertush@...> wrote: thats really a good question. I always wondered what the percentage of autistic children are non vaccinated children .... compared to those who were .... is there a study on that ? deb On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Chollick <lchollick@...> wrote: The only child I know not vaccinated live near a TOXIC mercury plant!"The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it"http://www.vaccinesafetyfirst.com/Home.html From: wharrison@... <wharrison@...>Subject: Re: MMRVaccinations Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 9:19 PM Oh, boy, there is so much out there about autism and vaccines, not just the MMR but those with mercury. I'll defer to others to provide the best info on that. But to answer her question about the kids with autism who weren't vaccinated--ask her to name them. What children with autism does she know that weren't vaccinated? If there are any, then ask her if the mom's had mercury fillings or any mercury-containing vaccines while pregnant (or any time, really). Get specific. Make people think about what they're asking and have them come up with the answers rather than expecting to be spoonfed reasons they can reject. Tell her she knows this is an issue so if it happens to her child, she cannot pretend to be ignorant about it. She is forewarned. And tell her autism is but one condition to worry about. There are so, so many more (asthma, allergies, auto-immune diseases, death...) Get her to read Neil 's books. Remind her that no vaccines are guaranteed to work. Winnie MMRVaccinations > I need help. My friend told me today that she is putting her > son (5 months) on a vaccine schedule and she was specifically > asking me about the MMR shot and autism.> > She also wants an answer to "what about the kids with autism who > aren't vaccinated?" > > I gave her this link about MMR: > http://drtenpenny.com/MMR_vac_not_holy_water.aspx > > What else can I give her?> > My ultimate goal here is to have her STOP vaccinating, at least > I have her beginning to question her decision. It has only > taken me 3 years!> > Adelyn > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 I havent eaten a formaldehyde and aluminum sandwich lately.. in NYOn Feb 23, 2011, at 11:05 AM, "adelynwithers" <adelynwithers@...> wrote: Thank you for all of the input. Last night she was telling me "A lot of the ingredients in vaccines are found in foods we eat all the time." I just said "that is why we need to eat whole foods, not foods with preservatives." I wish I had good answers to all of the questions I get about vaccines, but I don't. I am glad I can come here for help. Thank you all. > > > > > > > >From: wharrison@... <wharrison@... > > > > >Subject: Re: MMR > > > >Vaccinations > > > >Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 9:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Oh, boy, there is so much out there about autism and vaccines, not just the MMR > >but those with mercury. I'll defer to others to provide the best info on that. > >But to answer her question about the kids with autism who weren't > >vaccinated--ask her to name them. What children with autism does she know that > >weren't vaccinated? If there are any, then ask her if the mom's had mercury > >fillings or any mercury-containing vaccines while pregnant (or any time, > >really). > > > > > > > > > >Get specific. Make people think about what they're asking and have them come up > >with the answers rather than expecting to be spoonfed reasons they can reject. > >Tell her she knows this is an issue so if it happens to her child, she cannot > >pretend to be ignorant about it. She is forewarned. > > > > > > > >And tell her autism is but one condition to worry about. There are so, so many > >more (asthma, allergies, auto-immune diseases, death...) Get her to read Neil > >'s books. Remind her that no vaccines are guaranteed to work. > > > > > > > > > >Winnie > > > > > > MMR > > > >Vaccinations > > > > > >> I need help. My friend told me today that she is putting her > > > >> son (5 months) on a vaccine schedule and she was specifically > > > >> asking me about the MMR shot and autism. > > > >> > > > >> She also wants an answer to "what about the kids with autism who > > > >> aren't vaccinated?" > > > >> > > > >> I gave her this link about MMR: > > > >> http://drtenpenny.com/MMR_vac_not_holy_water.aspx > > > >> > > > >> What else can I give her? > > > >> > > > >> My ultimate goal here is to have her STOP vaccinating, at least > > > >> I have her beginning to question her decision. It has only > > > >> taken me 3 years! > > > >> > > > >> Adelyn > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 At 12:00 PM 3/5/2011, you wrote: >My daughter has almost recovered from autism and she is unvaxed. She >contracted Lyme and at least one other tick disease from me in utero >when I relapsed in my third trimester. Some have said the >antibiotics that saved my life did it all, but then I know hundreds >in my place who ended up with 'typical' children who did the same as >I did. (but they went on to vax of course so what's the point?) well, it is antibiotics that I see are what all the unvaxed children I know with autism, have in common - in utero, labor and delivery or post delivery directly or via breastmilk. But it sounds like maybe you didn't have a choice. >But, my daughter has come a long way and is basically normal now >using many healing modalities including careful use of antibiotics >and no chemicals or OTC meds used... Unnecessary stuff... >Ironically, she is never sick... Of course not with bacterial but >even viruses. If she gets a cold it's so mild and gone quickly. Not >the same for me! She was exposed to a minibus full of kids with >chicken pox (vaxed) and never caught it ( or fought it off ). I >don't have any kid diarrhea, high fevers, asthma, and puking stories >that I hear from all the moms around me!! I will just say, and not to scare you, but when someone has a deeper illness they often do NOT get acute illness, or very little or very mild. It means their constitution is still needing help, possibly. >Brain inflammation is going to cause autism no matter the trigger! >Lyme induced autism is now a recognized thing in the community among >children born with Lyme (mom usually is untreated) and the child's >autism resolves with treatment for the Lyme. It's not common but it >has been seen. Do you have info on that? Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 and do we inject food into us? At 12:07 PM 3/5/2011, you wrote: I havent eaten a formaldehyde and aluminum sandwich lately.. in NY On Feb 23, 2011, at 11:05 AM, " adelynwithers " <adelynwithers@... > wrote: Thank you for all of the input. Last night she was telling me " A lot of the ingredients in vaccines are found in foods we eat all the time. " I just said " that is why we need to eat whole foods, not foods with preservatives. " I wish I had good answers to all of the questions I get about vaccines, but I don't. I am glad I can come here for help. Thank you all. > > > > > > > >From: wharrison@... <wharrison@... > > > > >Subject: Re: MMR > > > >To: Vaccinations > > > >Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 9:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Oh, boy, there is so much out there about autism and vaccines, not just the MMR > >but those with mercury. I'll defer to others to provide the best info on that. > >But to answer her question about the kids with autism who weren't > >vaccinated--ask her to name them. What children with autism does she know that > >weren't vaccinated? If there are any, then ask her if the mom's had mercury > >fillings or any mercury-containing vaccines while pregnant (or any time, > >really). > > > > > > > > > >Get specific. Make people think about what they're asking and have them come up > >with the answers rather than expecting to be spoonfed reasons they can reject. > >Tell her she knows this is an issue so if it happens to her child, she cannot > >pretend to be ignorant about it. She is forewarned. > > > > > > > >And tell her autism is but one condition to worry about. There are so, so many > >more (asthma, allergies, auto-immune diseases, death...) Get her to read Neil > >'s books. Remind her that no vaccines are guaranteed to work. > > > > > > > > > >Winnie > > > > > > MMR > > > >To: Vaccinations > > > > > >> I need help. My friend told me today that she is putting her > > > >> son (5 months) on a vaccine schedule and she was specifically > > > >> asking me about the MMR shot and autism. > > > >> > > > >> She also wants an answer to " what about the kids with autism who > > > >> aren't vaccinated? " > > > >> > > > >> I gave her this link about MMR: > > > >> http://drtenpenny.com/MMR_vac_not_holy_water.aspx > > > >> > > > >> What else can I give her? > > > >> > > > >> My ultimate goal here is to have her STOP vaccinating, at least > > > >> I have her beginning to question her decision. It has only > > > >> taken me 3 years! > > > >> > > > >> Adelyn > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 I have a daughter (unvaccinated) that has aspergers syndrome and has only just stopped using diapers at night at the age of 13. I have no mercury fillings (only one white one), I don't eat fish, didn't have a cell phone when pregnant, didn't drink alcohol etc. She was treated homeopathically (no drugs other than when she broke her arm) and we always fed her organic food and washed her clothes in non-chemical stuff. However, I am vaccine damaged with hyperacusis (supposed to be part of an ASD) and various other nerve damage problems. I don't know what my mercury burden is but probably high since I got all my DPT's as a kid and they were loaded with it in those days. I suspect that she may have inherited some damage from me. I also only breast fed her for 10 weeks as I had feeding problems and was only 20 at the time and gave up too easily so that might have damaged her. Plus she was born grey with the cord round her neck and not responsive so I have always known from birth there was something wrong with her. I think it is regressive autism that is related to vaccines, but not necessarily autism that is seen from birth. She was slow at all her milestones and didn't sit up unaided till 10 months. I would be surprised to find an unvaccinated child who regressed, unless they were poisoned somehow. Joanna. From: wharrison@... <wharrison@...>Subject: Re: MMRVaccinations Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 9:19 PM Oh, boy, there is so much out there about autism and vaccines, not just the MMR but those with mercury. I'll defer to others to provide the best info on that. But to answer her question about the kids with autism who weren't vaccinated--ask her to name them. What children with autism does she know that weren't vaccinated? If there are any, then ask her if the mom's had mercury fillings or any mercury-containing vaccines while pregnant (or any time, really). Get specific. Make people think about what they're asking and have them come up with the answers rather than expecting to be spoonfed reasons they can reject. Tell her she knows this is an issue so if it happens to her child, she cannot pretend to be ignorant about it. She is forewarned. And tell her autism is but one condition to worry about. There are so, so many more (asthma, allergies, auto-immune diseases, death...) Get her to read Neil 's books. Remind her that no vaccines are guaranteed to work. Winnie MMRVaccinations > I need help. My friend told me today that she is putting her > son (5 months) on a vaccine schedule and she was specifically > asking me about the MMR shot and autism.> > She also wants an answer to "what about the kids with autism who > aren't vaccinated?" > > I gave her this link about MMR: > http://drtenpenny.com/MMR_vac_not_holy_water.aspx> > What else can I give her?> > My ultimate goal here is to have her STOP vaccinating, at least > I have her beginning to question her decision. It has only > taken me 3 years!> > Adelyn > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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