Guest guest Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 I would think "recognized" is open to interpretation. BUT it sounds as if they might give you a hard time if you say you recognize it, as opposed to the state recognizing it. I'd move to a state that doesn't give you grief. CT is pretty good, but it's too expensive here. How about CO? Winnie exemption for Iowa?Vaccinations > We're considering a move to IA and even maybe public schooling > the kids.> > > > I'm looking at nvic now. clarify? I can't hold a religious > personal belief> but it has to be part of my organized religious reason? Or can > my religious> belief be I don't believe god intended us to be shot up with > poison and not> have to have a stated purpose as part of my Sunday attending religion?> Wouldn't "moral" be part of that? I am confused and a bit > worried. Hell no> I'm not shooting up my kids. Anyway.. My dh is inclined to stay > here in AL.> maybe it's a good idea after all? more money in IA and less COL > though but> no snow and I already have my exemptions. > > > > > > A religious exemption may be granted to an applicant if immunization> conflicts with a genuine and sincere religious belief. A > Certificate of> Immunization Exemption for religious reasons shall be signed by the> applicant or, if the applicant is a minor, by the parent or > guardian or> legally authorized representative and shall attest that the > immunizationconflicts with a genuine and sincere religious > belief and that the belief is> in fact religious, and not based merely on philosophical, > scientific, moral,> personal, or medical opposition to immunizations. The > Certificate of> Immunization Exemption for religious reasons is valid only when > notarized.Religious exemptions do not apply in times of > emergency or epidemic as> determined by the state board of health and declared by the > director of> public health.> > > > > > Nita, mom to: katie 17, Jon 15, 13, 11, 9, > ChristianRIP, 4, Isaac 2 and one cooking due 3/11> > If you have melted chocolate on your hands, you're eating it too > slowly!> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Dh did a spread sheet and we’re looking at staying put so from the vaccine POV, AL is a good thing. I already have my exemptions in place and I wasn’t given any grief. I have a regular allopathic ped that doesn’t push vaccines and mom lives next door. We have several advantages to staying put…. That little blurb on their exemption really is obnoxious. Why am I not allowed to have a personal reason to not vax?! It’s my child and I have to live with the consequences ykwim? Why can’t I have a moral reason to not?.. I just don’t like their wording AT ALL and no, I don’t want any grief b/c I’ll go ballistic! Lower COL sounds so nice though! The snow doesn’t though! Nita, mom to: 17, Jon 15, 13, 11, 9, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 4, Isaac 2 and one cooking due 3/2011 http://momof6.dotphoto.com for possibly current pictures and http://nitasspot.blogspot.com Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long enough to make them all yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 The exemption form for Iowa says nothing about an organized or recognized religion. http://www.idph.state.ia.us/adper/common/pdf/immunization/products/cert_of_immun\ ization.pdf You only need to say the religious belief is " genuine and sincere. " > > We're considering a move to IA and even maybe public schooling the kids. > > > > I'm looking at nvic now. clarify? I can't hold a religious personal belief > but it has to be part of my organized religious reason? Or can my religious > belief be I don't believe god intended us to be shot up with poison and not > have to have a stated purpose as part of my Sunday attending religion? > Wouldn't " moral " be part of that? I am confused and a bit worried. Hell no > I'm not shooting up my kids. Anyway.. My dh is inclined to stay here in AL. > maybe it's a good idea after all? more money in IA and less COL though but > no snow and I already have my exemptions. > > > > > > A religious exemption may be granted to an applicant if immunization > conflicts with a genuine and sincere religious belief. A Certificate of > Immunization Exemption for religious reasons shall be signed by the > applicant or, if the applicant is a minor, by the parent or guardian or > legally authorized representative and shall attest that the immunization > conflicts with a genuine and sincere religious belief and that the belief is > in fact religious, and not based merely on philosophical, scientific, moral, > personal, or medical opposition to immunizations. The Certificate of > Immunization Exemption for religious reasons is valid only when notarized. > Religious exemptions do not apply in times of emergency or epidemic as > determined by the state board of health and declared by the director of > public health. > > > > > > Nita, mom to: katie 17, Jon 15, 13, 11, 9, Christian > RIP, 4, Isaac 2 and one cooking due 3/11 > > If you have melted chocolate on your hands, you're eating it too slowly! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 But my concern was all their additions to which I do have objections. But since it looks like we’ll stay put, I am breathing easier. IA didn’t seem exemption friendly. Nita, mom to: 17, Jon 15, 13, 11, 9, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 4, Isaac 2 and one cooking due 3/2011 http://momof6.dotphoto.com for possibly current pictures and http://nitasspot.blogspot.com Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long enough to make them all yourself. > A religious exemption may be granted to an applicant if immunization > conflicts with a genuine and sincere religious belief. A Certificate of > Immunization Exemption for religious reasons shall be signed by the > applicant or, if the applicant is a minor, by the parent or guardian or > legally authorized representative and shall attest that the immunization > conflicts with a genuine and sincere religious belief and that the belief is > in fact religious, and ** not based merely on philosophical, scientific, moral, > personal, or medical opposition to immunizations.** (which really ticks me off b/c I am the parent. If I have a moral objection, I should have the right to skip the vaccines. The idiots.) The Certificate of > Immunization Exemption for religious reasons is valid only when notarized. > Religious exemptions do not apply in times of emergency or epidemic as > determined by the state board of health and declared by the director of > public health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 notice the word, " merely. " I'd have no problem moving to Iowa. > > But my concern was all their additions to which I do have objections. > > > > But since it looks like we'll stay put, I am breathing easier. IA didn't > seem exemption friendly. > > > > Nita, mom to: 17, Jon 15, 13, 11, 9, Christian > (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 4, Isaac 2 and one cooking due 3/2011 > <http://momof6.dotphoto.com/> http://momof6.dotphoto.com for possibly > current pictures and <http://nitasspot.blogspot.com> > http://nitasspot.blogspot.com > Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long enough > to make them all yourself. > > > A religious exemption may be granted to an applicant if immunization > > conflicts with a genuine and sincere religious belief. A Certificate of > > Immunization Exemption for religious reasons shall be signed by the > > applicant or, if the applicant is a minor, by the parent or guardian or > > legally authorized representative and shall attest that the immunization > > conflicts with a genuine and sincere religious belief and that the belief > is > > in fact religious, and ** not based merely on philosophical, scientific, > moral, > > personal, or medical opposition to immunizations.** (which really ticks > me off b/c I am the parent. If I have a moral objection, I should have the > right to skip the vaccines. The idiots.) > > The Certificate of > > Immunization Exemption for religious reasons is valid only when notarized. > > Religious exemptions do not apply in times of emergency or epidemic as > > determined by the state board of health and declared by the director of > > public health. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Maybe not if the wording was only the part Nita gave before, but look at the wording under #4 of Iowa code 198A.8 (http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/state-vaccine-requirements/iowa.aspx): "The applicant, or if the applicant is a minor, the applicant's parent or legal guardian, submits an affidavit signed by the applicant, or if the applicant is a minor, the applicant's parent or legal guardian, stating that the immunization conflicts with the tenets and practices of a recognized religious denomination of which the applicant is an adherent or member." If they require you to be part of a recognized religion, that could be a problem. Winnie Re: exemption for Iowa?Vaccinations > notice the word, "merely." I'd have no problem moving to Iowa.> > > >> > But my concern was all their additions to which I do have > objections. > > > > > > > > But since it looks like we'll stay put, I am breathing easier. > IA didn't> > seem exemption friendly.> > > > > > > > Nita, mom to: 17, Jon 15, 13, 11, > 9, Christian> > (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 4, Isaac 2 and one cooking due 3/2011> > http://momof6.dotphoto.com for > possibly> current pictures and > > http://nitasspot.blogspot.com> > Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live > long enough> > to make them all yourself.> > > > > A religious exemption may be granted to an applicant if > immunization> > conflicts with a genuine and sincere religious > belief. A Certificate of> > > Immunization Exemption for religious reasons shall be signed > by the> > > applicant or, if the applicant is a minor, by the parent or > guardian or> > > legally authorized representative and shall attest that the > immunization> > conflicts with a genuine and sincere religious > belief and that the belief> > is> > > in fact religious, and ** not based merely on philosophical, > scientific,> moral,> > > personal, or medical opposition to immunizations.** (which > really ticks> > me off b/c I am the parent. If I have a moral objection, I > should have the> > right to skip the vaccines. The idiots.) > > > > The Certificate of> > > Immunization Exemption for religious reasons is valid only > when notarized.> > > Religious exemptions do not apply in times of emergency or > epidemic as> > > determined by the state board of health and declared by the > director of> > > public health.> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Just saw this email. Well, it would certainly seem that if their own form doesn't quote their law completely, then they're not aware of it themselves! Winnie Re: exemption for Iowa?Vaccinations > The exemption form for Iowa says nothing about an organized or > recognized religion.> http://www.idph.state.ia.us/adper/common/pdf/immunization/products/cert_of_immunization.pdf You only need to say the religious belief is "genuine and sincere."> > > >> > We're considering a move to IA and even maybe public schooling > the kids.> > > > > > > > I'm looking at nvic now. clarify? I can't hold a religious > personal belief> > but it has to be part of my organized religious reason? Or > can my religious> > belief be I don't believe god intended us to be shot up with > poison and not> > have to have a stated purpose as part of my Sunday attending > religion?> Wouldn't "moral" be part of that? I am confused and > a bit worried. Hell no> > I'm not shooting up my kids. Anyway.. My dh is inclined to > stay here in AL.> > maybe it's a good idea after all? more money in IA and less > COL though but> > no snow and I already have my exemptions. > > > > > > > > > > > > A religious exemption may be granted to an applicant if > immunization> conflicts with a genuine and sincere religious > belief. A Certificate of> > Immunization Exemption for religious reasons shall be signed > by the> > applicant or, if the applicant is a minor, by the parent or > guardian or> > legally authorized representative and shall attest that the > immunization> conflicts with a genuine and sincere religious > belief and that the belief is> > in fact religious, and not based merely on philosophical, > scientific, moral,> > personal, or medical opposition to immunizations. The > Certificate of> > Immunization Exemption for religious reasons is valid only > when notarized.> > Religious exemptions do not apply in times of emergency or > epidemic as> > determined by the state board of health and declared by the > director of> > public health.> > > > > > > > > > > > Nita, mom to: katie 17, Jon 15, 13, 11, > 9, Christian> > RIP, 4, Isaac 2 and one cooking due 3/11> > > > If you have melted chocolate on your hands, you're eating it > too slowly!> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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