Re: religious exemptions - quotes in the bible

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do NOT ever use this kind of stuff

do what your state requires of you

Sheri

At 04:08 PM 8/31/2010, you wrote:

>And while I'm at it, there was a woman who posted a huge list of

>quotes in the bible on Dr. Tenpenney's vaccine site last

>spring/winter. These were basically tons of quotes on not putting

>toxins in the body. (i.e. - equating to no vaccines) I have needed

>that several times for friends and kicked myself for not saving -

>does anyone have this type of info ???

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[Guest guest]

do NOT ever use this kind of stuff

do what your state requires of you

Sheri

At 04:08 PM 8/31/2010, you wrote:

>And while I'm at it, there was a woman who posted a huge list of

>quotes in the bible on Dr. Tenpenney's vaccine site last

>spring/winter. These were basically tons of quotes on not putting

>toxins in the body. (i.e. - equating to no vaccines) I have needed

>that several times for friends and kicked myself for not saving -

>does anyone have this type of info ???

>

>

>

>------------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

I agree. The more you way, the more they can pick apart.

Winnie Re: religious exemptions - quotes in the bibleVaccinations > do NOT ever use this kind of stuff> do what your state requires of you> Sheri> > At 04:08 PM 8/31/2010, you wrote:> >And while I'm at it, there was a woman who posted a huge list > of > >quotes in the bible on Dr. Tenpenney's vaccine site last > >spring/winter. These were basically tons of quotes on not > putting > >toxins in the body. (i.e. - equating to no vaccines) I have > needed > >that several times for friends and kicked myself for not saving > - > >does anyone have this type of info ???> >> >> >> >------------------------------------> >> >

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Oops, the more you "say."

Winnie Re: religious exemptions - quotes in the bible> Vaccinations > > > do NOT ever use this kind of stuff> > do what your state requires of you> > Sheri> > > > At 04:08 PM 8/31/2010, you wrote:> > >And while I'm at it, there was a woman who posted a huge list > > of > > >quotes in the bible on Dr. Tenpenney's vaccine site last > > >spring/winter. These were basically tons of quotes on not > > putting > > >toxins in the body. (i.e. - equating to no vaccines) I have > > needed > > >that several times for friends and kicked myself for not > saving > > - > > >does anyone have this type of info ???> > >> > >> > >> > >------------------------------------> > >> > >

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The state of land requires a box be checked stating that due to your religious beliefs you choose not to vaccinate. Unfortunately if someone questions that I feel like you better be able to back it up. So having your answer ready (whether it be from the Bible or from another source) is important.

[Guest guest]

The only answer you should ever give is "I have met the legal requirements by giving you my statement." NEVER explain your religious beliefs, at least without legal advice.

Winnie Re: religious exemptions - quotes in the bibleVaccinations > The state of land requires a box be checked stating that due > to your religious beliefs you choose not to vaccinate. > Unfortunately if someone questions that I feel like you better > be able to back it up. So having your answer ready (whether it > be from the Bible or from another source) is important.> > > >

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PLEASE EVERYONE - How can I say this - YOU ONLY Follow the law - just

because someone asks you does not mean you have to answer

That is NOT in the law for land or any other state other than NY and

? NJ

You just show them the law and the law does not say they can question you

or you have to explain

For land - this is the law - you do NOTHING else - see further down

the page for all the law

http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/state-vaccine-requirements/maryland.aspx

" Effective currently: (1) The individual objects to

immunization because it conflicts with the individual's bona fide

religious beliefs and practices; or (2) The individual is a minor and the

individual's parent objects to immunization because it conflicts with the

parent's bona fide religious beliefs and practices. "

land Coalition for Vaccine Choice - Be informed. Educate

before you vaccinate.

http://mdvaccinechoice.wordpress.com/

Sheri

listowner

At 10:14 AM 9/1/2010, you wrote:

The state of land requires a

box be checked stating that due to your religious beliefs you choose not

to vaccinate. Unfortunately if someone questions that I feel like

you better be able to back it up. So having your answer ready

(whether it be from the Bible or from another source) is

important.

[Guest guest]

I have religious quotes in my NJ exemption..I had believed this makes for a

stronger letter..yet I am noticing parents writing exemption letters without

bible quotes in NJ letters..is this fine? and holds?

thank you for helping!!

> >And while I'm at it, there was a woman who posted a huge list of

> >quotes in the bible on Dr. Tenpenney's vaccine site last

> >spring/winter. These were basically tons of quotes on not putting

> >toxins in the body. (i.e. - equating to no vaccines) I have needed

> >that several times for friends and kicked myself for not saving -

> >does anyone have this type of info ???

> >

> >

> >

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Did the schools accept it?

Winnie Re: religious exemptions - quotes in the bibleVaccinations > I have religious quotes in my NJ exemption..I had believed this > makes for a stronger letter..yet I am noticing parents writing > exemption letters without bible quotes in NJ letters..is this > fine? and holds? > > thank you for helping!!> > > > > >And while I'm at it, there was a woman who posted a huge list > of > > >quotes in the bible on Dr. Tenpenney's vaccine site last > > >spring/winter. These were basically tons of quotes on not > putting > > >toxins in the body. (i.e. - equating to no vaccines) I have > needed > > >that several times for friends and kicked myself for not > saving - > > >does anyone have this type of info ???> > >> > >> > >> > >------------------------------------> > >> > >

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NJ is a different situation as I have said - see info I sent and ask

advice from

NJ Alliance for Informed Choice in Vaccination:

http://www.njaicv.org,

email@...

New Jersey Coalition for Vaccination Choice:

www.njvaccinationchoice.

org

http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/state-vaccine-requirements.aspx

http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/state-vaccine-requirements/newjersey.aspx

" A written statement should be submitted by the student, or the

student's parent or guardian if the student is a minor, explaining how

the administration of the vaccine conflicts with the bona fide religious

tenets or practices of the student, or the parent or guardian, as

appropriate; except that a general philosophical or moral objection to

the vaccination shall not be sufficient for an exemption on religious

grounds. "

Because they ask to explain how it is more tricky - consult the following

for help

NJ Alliance for Informed Choice in Vaccination:

http://www.njaicv.org,

email@...

New Jersey Coalition for Vaccination Choice:

www.njvaccinationchoice.org

At 09:30 AM 9/2/2010, you wrote:

I have religious quotes in my NJ

exemption..I had believed this makes for a stronger letter..yet I am

noticing parents writing exemption letters without bible quotes in NJ

letters..is this fine? and holds?

thank you for helping!!

> >And while I'm at it, there was a woman who posted a huge list of

> >quotes in the bible on Dr. Tenpenney's vaccine site last

> >spring/winter. These were basically tons of quotes on not

putting

> >toxins in the body. (i.e. - equating to no vaccines) I have

needed

> >that several times for friends and kicked myself for not saving

-

> >does anyone have this type of info ???

> >

> >

> >

> >------------------------------------

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Hi Winnie- My letter is truly religious and has quotes, mine has held for years.

YET I am on the njvaccinationsupport group and there are some parents who

do not use quotes, they say their letter holds..i personally don't know these

people and maybe it can catch up with them..thinking this since the health board

maybe had not been by yet to see letter, just the school staff accepted the

letter- kwim??

this issue right now is important as to whether to include the quotes, because

my very dear friend is submitting her first relig exemption letter to preschool

and i don't want anything to go wrong. she has not put quotes from bible in

hers. I hope i have time to contact someone locally for help here regarding

this.

Sheri sent links and i just now need to find someone local..know of any quickly

so they may possibly view the letter or we can ask questions?

I have read the exemption samples and what should be in there, says mostly it

better have quotes in it!!

thank you,

Lucy

> > > >And while I'm at it, there was a woman who posted a huge list

> > of

> > > >quotes in the bible on Dr. Tenpenney's vaccine site last

> > > >spring/winter. These were basically tons of quotes on not

> > putting

> > > >toxins in the body. (i.e. - equating to no vaccines) I have

> > needed

> > > >that several times for friends and kicked myself for not

> > saving -

> > > >does anyone have this type of info ???

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

again - this is for NJ only!

Sheri

At 11:43 AM 9/2/2010, you wrote:

>Hi Winnie- My letter is truly religious and has quotes, mine has

>held for years. YET I am on the njvaccinationsupport group and

>there are some parents who do not use quotes, they say their letter

>holds..i personally don't know these people and maybe it can catch

>up with them..thinking this since the health board maybe had not

>been by yet to see letter, just the school staff accepted the letter- kwim??

>

>this issue right now is important as to whether to include the

>quotes, because my very dear friend is submitting her first relig

>exemption letter to preschool and i don't want anything to go wrong.

>she has not put quotes from bible in hers. I hope i have time to

>contact someone locally for help here regarding this.

>

>Sheri sent links and i just now need to find someone local..know of

>any quickly so they may possibly view the letter or we can ask questions?

>

>I have read the exemption samples and what should be in there, says

>mostly it better have quotes in it!!

>

>thank you,

>Lucy

>

>

> > > > >And while I'm at it, there was a woman who posted a huge list

> > > of

> > > > >quotes in the bible on Dr. Tenpenney's vaccine site last

> > > > >spring/winter. These were basically tons of quotes on not

> > > putting

> > > > >toxins in the body. (i.e. - equating to no vaccines) I have

> > > needed

> > > > >that several times for friends and kicked myself for not

> > > saving -

> > > > >does anyone have this type of info ???

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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> > > > >

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[Guest guest]

I think you are lucky they didn't challenge you because the more you say, the more they can use to "prove" it doesn't qualify as religious. Of course, any of us are lucky not to be challenged for that matter. Much depends on the school staff, too. I haven't met any school nurse yet who truly understands what is legally required anyway.

We shouldn't even have to have this discussion. Isn't it ridiculous that we have to jump through hoops writing anything? I'd like to see a law requiring parents who vaccinate to write a statement about why they vaccinate, and proof that they researched it first.

Winnie

Re: religious exemptions - quotes in the bibleVaccinations > Hi Winnie- My letter is truly religious and has quotes, mine has > held for years. YET I am on the njvaccinationsupport group > and there are some parents who do not use quotes, they say their > letter holds..i personally don't know these people and maybe it > can catch up with them..thinking this since the health board > maybe had not been by yet to see letter, just the school staff > accepted the letter- kwim??> > this issue right now is important as to whether to include the > quotes, because my very dear friend is submitting her first > relig exemption letter to preschool and i don't want anything to > go wrong. she has not put quotes from bible in hers. I hope i > have time to contact someone locally for help here regarding this.> > Sheri sent links and i just now need to find someone local..know > of any quickly so they may possibly view the letter or we can > ask questions?> > I have read the exemption samples and what should be in there, > says mostly it better have quotes in it!!> > thank you,> Lucy

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she is in NJ and has to say more

Sheri

At 02:30 PM 9/2/2010, you wrote:

I think you are lucky they

didn't challenge you because the more you say, the more they can use to

" prove " it doesn't qualify as religious. Of course, any of us

are lucky not to be challenged for that matter. Much depends on the

school staff, too. I haven't met any school nurse yet who truly

understands what is legally required anyway.

We shouldn't even have to have this discussion. Isn't it ridiculous that

we have to jump through hoops writing anything? I'd like to see a law

requiring parents who vaccinate to write a statement about why they

vaccinate, and proof that they researched it first.

Winnie

Re: religious exemptions - quotes in the

bible

Vaccinations

> Hi Winnie- My letter is truly religious and has quotes, mine has

> held for years. YET I am on the njvaccinationsupport group

> and there are some parents who do not use quotes, they say their

> letter holds..i personally don't know these people and maybe it

> can catch up with them..thinking this since the health board

> maybe had not been by yet to see letter, just the school staff

> accepted the letter- kwim??

>

> this issue right now is important as to whether to include the

> quotes, because my very dear friend is submitting her first

> relig exemption letter to preschool and i don't want anything to

> go wrong. she has not put quotes from bible in hers. I hope i

> have time to contact someone locally for help here regarding

this.

>

> Sheri sent links and i just now need to find someone local..know

> of any quickly so they may possibly view the letter or we can

> ask questions?

>

> I have read the exemption samples and what should be in there,

> says mostly it better have quotes in it!!

>

> thank you,

> Lucy

[Guest guest]

Yes, I can see that. Is NJ as bad as NY at this point?

Winnie Re: religious exemptions - quotes in > the bible> >Vaccinations > >> > > Hi Winnie- My letter is truly religious and has quotes, mine has> > > held for years. YET I am on the njvaccinationsupport group> > > and there are some parents who do not use quotes, they say their> > > letter holds..i personally don't know these people and maybe it> > > can catch up with them..thinking this since the health board> > > maybe had not been by yet to see letter, just the school staff> > > accepted the letter- kwim??> > >> > > this issue right now is important as to whether to include the> > > quotes, because my very dear friend is submitting her first> > > relig exemption letter to preschool and i don't want > anything to> > > go wrong. she has not put quotes from bible in hers. I hope i> > > have time to contact someone locally for help here regarding this.> > >> > > Sheri sent links and i just now need to find someone local..know> > > of any quickly so they may possibly view the letter or we can> > > ask questions?> > >> > > I have read the exemption samples and what should be in there,> > > says mostly it better have quotes in it!!> > >> > > thank you,> > > Lucy> >> >> >>

[Guest guest]

no, not so far

I just want people to understand the difference

Sheri

Yes, I can see that. Is NJ as

bad as NY at this point?

Winnie

Re: religious exemptions - quotes in

> the bible

> >Vaccinations

> >

> > > Hi Winnie- My letter is truly religious and has quotes,

mine has

> > > held for years. YET I am on the njvaccinationsupport

group

> > > and there are some parents who do not use quotes, they say

their

> > > letter holds..i personally don't know these people and

maybe it

> > > can catch up with them..thinking this since the health

board

> > > maybe had not been by yet to see letter, just the school

staff

> > > accepted the letter- kwim??

> > >

> > > this issue right now is important as to whether to include

the

> > > quotes, because my very dear friend is submitting her

first

> > > relig exemption letter to preschool and i don't want

> anything to

> > > go wrong. she has not put quotes from bible in hers. I

hope i

> > > have time to contact someone locally for help here

regarding this.

> > >

> > > Sheri sent links and i just now need to find someone

local..know

> > > of any quickly so they may possibly view the letter or we

can

> > > ask questions?

> > >

> > > I have read the exemption samples and what should be in

there,

> > > says mostly it better have quotes in it!!

> > >

> > > thank you,

> > > Lucy

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Gotcha.

Winnie Re: Re: religious exemptions - quotes in the bibleVaccinations > no, not so far> > I just want people to understand the difference> Sheri>