Re: JMBC germ theory discussion

[Guest guest]

Hi Holly,

Ask them - even if the vaccine gives you immunity, will it prevent you from

asymptomatically carrying and transmitting the disease you are vaccinated

against to others? And if they say yes, what evidence do they have for that

statement?

Here is a reference from me:

“Many vaccines stimulate immunologic memory but do not block infection. "

pathmicro.med.sc.edu/lecture/hiv12a.htm)

Whooping cough is highly infectious and before vaccination was introduced,

almost all children became infected (2). However, vaccination does not prevent

the infection or asymptomatic carriage and immunity wanes after vaccination. In

recent years in the United States and Europe (for example, the Netherlands)

Pertussis in adolescents and young adults has been diagnosed more frequently.

(3)

hRp://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewAr2cle.aspx?Ar2cleId=2779

All the best,

Meryl

On 19/04/2010, at 10:00 AM, mensrea320@... wrote:

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> I know some of you on this list have been banned from the facebook group jenny

mccarthy body count. I'm currently in a discussion about the germ theory. any

suggestions on what else I should say? It's pretty obvious they don't have any

real answers on this point of the argument, lol....

>

> Holly

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Meryl Dorey

meryl@...

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[Guest guest]

Hi Holly,

It's great to see you here too! I didn't know you were on this email

list. Great to find you here. (I first found you on that exact

germ-theory discussion you're talking about.)

Anyway, some of these people do seem to be smart and know a lot of

information. Like that woman Tabitha, listing all the toxins and then

talking about them, siting links about them, but then validating them

all by implying they are all safe to inject them in children. Yeah, she

might sound smart, and she definitely has a lot to say, but for us to

give them a run for their money, we do have to come back with lots of

good points and intelligent responses.

I'm not a good debater. And I'm not good at data. But I love reading

about these things. Holly, you are being very brave and bold. I love

it. Keep it up!

Anne.

On 4/19/10 2:00 AM, mensrea320@... wrote:

I know some of you on this list have been banned from the

facebook group jenny mccarthy body count. I'm currently in a

discussion about the germ theory. any suggestions on what else I

should say? It's pretty obvious they don't have any real answers on

this point of the argument, lol....

Holly

[Guest guest]

Anne,Thanks for the words of encouragement. I love to debate stuff in a respectful manner. This debate has become rude disrespectful, but I am trying to keep my cool. I hesitate sometimes b/c I do not have the knowledge of some on this great list. Most of the people I speak with I do have more knowledge, but on JMBC there are many passionate pro vaxers on there. It will be a good learning experience for me I will plug away until banned, lol. Like I said to them, the fact JMBC even exists shows me we are winning the war!HollySent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: Anne Wiseman <shio@...>Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 14:20:25 +0200<Vaccinations >Subject: Re: JMBC germ theory discussion Hi Holly,It's great to see you here too! I didn't know you were on this emaillist. Great to find you here. (I first found you on that exactgerm-theory discussion you're talking about.) Anyway, some of these people do seem to be smart and know a lot ofinformation. Like that woman Tabitha, listing all the toxins and thentalking about them, siting links about them, but then validating themall by implying they are all safe to inject them in children. Yeah, shemight sound smart, and she definitely has a lot to say, but for us togive them a run for their money, we do have to come back with lots ofgood points and intelligent responses. I'm not a good debater. And I'm not good at data. But I love readingabout these things. Holly, you are being very brave and bold. I loveit. Keep it up!Anne.On 4/19/10 2:00 AM, mensrea320aol wrote: I know some of you on this list have been banned from thefacebook group jenny mccarthy body count. I'm currently in adiscussion about the germ theory. any suggestions on what else Ishould say? It's pretty obvious they don't have any real answers onthis point of the argument, lol.... Holly