What do I do?

September 21, 2000

The only thing that stopped Tanner from the " overuse "

of this particular body part was Paxil. I mean 100%

stopped! We took him off Paxil because we didn't

notice any other benefits, however, this behavior is

BACK and I think I made a big mistake taking the paxil

away. Just found out yesterday he has a raging ear

infection and his ear drum burst - no signs such as

fever or " not feeling well " . Just sudden crying and

really disgusting junk draining from his ear. I'm

hoping his ear is the cause of some of his resistant

behavior lately.

I have to disagree with Joan about not getting

satisfaction from this behavior.....as far as Tanner

is concerned! By the nature of the topic, this has to

be graphic...Tanner is oblivious to everything around

him (his method is to lay on his stomach on the bed or

floor with his hands there and rock back and forth).

He works up quite a sweat sometimes and is not happy

to stop until he is " satisfied " . As far as I know

(and I hope I never find out), there is no *release*

should we say. Our family has added lots of new

terminology to our vocabulary regarding this issue:

our euphanism is " gibleting " because I can't stand to

say masturbation (ewwww just sounds gross). My

favorite term is " gibletitus interruptus " (which

really ticks Tanner off!).

We have tried some behavior modification techniques (i

guess the urge is just too powerful). If we go from

gibletitus minimus to gibletitus maximus, we are

definitely going back on Paxil!

Jill

January 2, 2001

Hi everyone-

I haven't written in awhile but I do try to read most posts.

I am so sorry about ....it must be impossible.

I have a parental question for all you parents....My four year old is

becoming a menace. I just rescued Sara (2) (non Ds twin) from him. He had

hit her in the face and she had a bloody nose! The reason he hit her is

because she said that Woody was Buz (Toy Story). I made him sit on his bed

for 15 minutes. I then talked with him...asked him if he wanted to live

someone else? This really seemed to upset him.

It goes on like this every day! I don't know if it is normal for a 4 yr.

old

to hit his sister all the time or if the kid is a budding physcopath! Tell

me.

Quinn 4, Sara and Maggie 2, and Teddy 2 months

My mom wasn't really religious or anything, but we went to church every

week. I remember clearly the few times that I was really bad, she either

sent me up to my room to pray/say I'm sorry to God or we all said a prayer

together. Made me aware that someone else was watching and I felt really

badly/sorry about what I did. It worked for her and me!

P.S. It certainly wasn't a permanent solution and only worked when I was

very young and my mother knew I had been bad. My sister and I definitely had

our share of fights, including screaming, wrestling, and some hitting. We

also protected each other, though, no one else could hurt her except me and

vice versa. Now, and since we got our own places, we are best friends.

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January 2, 2001

Hi everyone-

I haven't written in awhile but I do try to read most posts.

I am so sorry about ....it must be impossible.

I have a parental question for all you parents....My four year old is

becoming a menace. I just rescued Sara (2) (non Ds twin) from him. He had

hit her in the face and she had a bloody nose! The reason he hit her is

because she said that Woody was Buz (Toy Story). I made him sit on his bed

for 15 minutes. I then talked with him...asked him if he wanted to live

someone else? This really seemed to upset him.

It goes on like this every day! I don't know if it is normal for a 4 yr.

old

to hit his sister all the time or if the kid is a budding physcopath! Tell

me.

Quinn 4, Sara and Maggie 2, and Teddy 2 months

My mom wasn't really religious or anything, but we went to church every

week. I remember clearly the few times that I was really bad, she either

sent me up to my room to pray/say I'm sorry to God or we all said a prayer

together. Made me aware that someone else was watching and I felt really

badly/sorry about what I did. It worked for her and me!

P.S. It certainly wasn't a permanent solution and only worked when I was

very young and my mother knew I had been bad. My sister and I definitely had

our share of fights, including screaming, wrestling, and some hitting. We

also protected each other, though, no one else could hurt her except me and

vice versa. Now, and since we got our own places, we are best friends.

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January 2, 2001

Hi everyone-

I haven't written in awhile but I do try to read most posts.

I am so sorry about ....it must be impossible.

I have a parental question for all you parents....My four year old is

becoming a menace. I just rescued Sara (2) (non Ds twin) from him. He had

hit her in the face and she had a bloody nose! The reason he hit her is

because she said that Woody was Buz (Toy Story). I made him sit on his bed

for 15 minutes. I then talked with him...asked him if he wanted to live

someone else? This really seemed to upset him.

It goes on like this every day! I don't know if it is normal for a 4 yr.

old

to hit his sister all the time or if the kid is a budding physcopath! Tell

me.

Quinn 4, Sara and Maggie 2, and Teddy 2 months

My mom wasn't really religious or anything, but we went to church every

week. I remember clearly the few times that I was really bad, she either

sent me up to my room to pray/say I'm sorry to God or we all said a prayer

together. Made me aware that someone else was watching and I felt really

badly/sorry about what I did. It worked for her and me!

P.S. It certainly wasn't a permanent solution and only worked when I was

very young and my mother knew I had been bad. My sister and I definitely had

our share of fights, including screaming, wrestling, and some hitting. We

also protected each other, though, no one else could hurt her except me and

vice versa. Now, and since we got our own places, we are best friends.

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January 2, 2001

Hi everyone-

I haven't written in awhile but I do try to read most posts.

I am so sorry about ....it must be impossible.

I have a parental question for all you parents....My four year old is

becoming a menace. I just rescued Sara (2) (non Ds twin) from him. He had

hit her in the face and she had a bloody nose! The reason he hit her is

because she said that Woody was Buz (Toy Story). I made him sit on his bed

for 15 minutes. I then talked with him...asked him if he wanted to live

someone else? This really seemed to upset him.

It goes on like this every day! I don't know if it is normal for a 4 yr.

old

to hit his sister all the time or if the kid is a budding physcopath! Tell

me.

Quinn 4, Sara and Maggie 2, and Teddy 2 months

My mom wasn't really religious or anything, but we went to church every

week. I remember clearly the few times that I was really bad, she either

sent me up to my room to pray/say I'm sorry to God or we all said a prayer

together. Made me aware that someone else was watching and I felt really

badly/sorry about what I did. It worked for her and me!

P.S. It certainly wasn't a permanent solution and only worked when I was

very young and my mother knew I had been bad. My sister and I definitely had

our share of fights, including screaming, wrestling, and some hitting. We

also protected each other, though, no one else could hurt her except me and

vice versa. Now, and since we got our own places, we are best friends.

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January 2, 2001

Hi everyone-

I haven't written in awhile but I do try to read most posts.

I am so sorry about ....it must be impossible.

I have a parental question for all you parents....My four year old is

becoming a menace. I just rescued Sara (2) (non Ds twin) from him. He had

hit her in the face and she had a bloody nose! The reason he hit her is

because she said that Woody was Buz (Toy Story). I made him sit on his bed

for 15 minutes. I then talked with him...asked him if he wanted to live

someone else? This really seemed to upset him.

It goes on like this every day! I don't know if it is normal for a 4 yr.

old

to hit his sister all the time or if the kid is a budding physcopath! Tell

me.

Quinn 4, Sara and Maggie 2, and Teddy 2 months

My mom wasn't really religious or anything, but we went to church every

week. I remember clearly the few times that I was really bad, she either

sent me up to my room to pray/say I'm sorry to God or we all said a prayer

together. Made me aware that someone else was watching and I felt really

badly/sorry about what I did. It worked for her and me!

P.S. It certainly wasn't a permanent solution and only worked when I was

very young and my mother knew I had been bad. My sister and I definitely had

our share of fights, including screaming, wrestling, and some hitting. We

also protected each other, though, no one else could hurt her except me and

vice versa. Now, and since we got our own places, we are best friends.

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January 2, 2001

Welcome back !!

As you know... I am not a parent. OK.. that is my disclaimer. Again, I am

not a parent! )

This is just an idea... but maybe Quinn is feeling a bit overwhelmed with

the new baby and his place in the family. I know from the kids that I

babysit that when a new baby comes along (especially when there is other

siblings as well) the older child often feels as if he is losing his place

in the family. Either because he is actually losing time he once had with

his parents or because the parents are now spending time he would like to

be his, with the new baby. Most often than not, in my experience, they

express this through inappropriate means... such as hitting the younger

siblings or parents. I would guess that the reason he was really upset

after you asked him if he wanted to live somewhere else, is because you

were confirming his fears (that I know is not reality) that he has lost his

place in this family... and/or you wouldn't mind if he wasn't around

because he has been replaced. Ofcourse this is NOT what you really feel...

but maybe what he is feeling. And ofcourse, at four, it's hard for him to

explain that... so it acts out.

What worked really well for a family I baby sit for was to give the older

child, Ben, in this case (he was 3 years old when they adopted baby

who was 6 months old when she arrived home) a bigger " job " of being " big

brother " in the family. For example, he usually showed his anger by pushing

(who was just starting to sit independantly) over, or slapping her

face when she smiled. He was especially angry when made expressions

(smiled, sneezed, etc.), probably because this encouraged a positive

response from the parents directed only towards . So... they changed

the situation. When wanted to sit and play with toys... they asked Ben

to " teach " her. They would ask Ben to hold her back and help her to sit

(even though she didn't really need it). They would then cheer and thank

Ben for helping.. offer a kiss, etc. When did something new or just

rare (like yawn, sneeze, smile, etc) they would say to Ben " Did you teach

her that??!! " he would half-smile and nodd his head and they would answer

with " wow! You're such a good big brother! " This took a while to eliminate

the bad behaviors. When Ben appeared to be losing his temper they would ask

him " do you need to go relax?? " and sometimes he'd say yes and go sit in

the other room... sometimes he'd say no and then calm down himself... and

sometimes he'd just go ahead and act out. When he did, they first talk

about 's reaction ( is a very dramatic crier! She is loud and gets

the pouty lip, tilts back her head and screams). They'd describe that she

is crying because she feels sad and hurt.. she wishes that he would be nice

to her. And then... what would really make Ben feel bad is they would say

" It hurts mommy (or whomever is the adult there) to see cry. It makes

me so sad when you are mean to her. " I think all kids, if given the chance,

just want to please their parents. Eventually........ Ben has become a

great big brother who is the first at the scene when is in danger or

crying.

I hope this wasn't too long and maybe even helpful!

Good Luck!

Sara <---- who is not a parent, yet!

--On Tuesday, January 02, 2001, 10:23 AM +0000 SStauffer1968@... wrote:

> Hi everyone-

>

> I haven't written in awhile but I do try to read most posts.

>

> I am so sorry about ....it must be impossible.

>

> I have a parental question for all you parents....My four year old is

> becoming a menace. I just rescued Sara (2) (non Ds twin) from him. He

> had hit her in the face and she had a bloody nose! The reason he hit

> her is because she said that Woody was Buz (Toy Story). I made him sit

> on his bed for 15 minutes. I then talked with him...asked him if he

> wanted to live someone else? This really seemed to upset him.

>

> It goes on like this every day! I don't know if it is normal for a 4 yr.

> old to hit his sister all the time or if the kid is a budding

> physcopath! Tell me.

>

> Quinn 4, Sara and Maggie 2, and Teddy 2 months

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January 2, 2001

Hi Stacey,

I totaly agree with what Sara has said. He is probably

oveerwhelmed with the new baby being in the house. Did

he act this way before the baby arrived?

Plus you might want to try to find time to spend some

one on one time with him. Maybe you and him could go

to Mcs or one of his favorite places, just the

two of you so he can have some of the mommy time.

I hope this helps and keep us informed.

Happy New Year,

Pam mom to Hannah and ID twins

--- SStauffer1968@... wrote:

> Hi everyone-

>

> I haven't written in awhile but I do try to read

> most posts.

>

> I am so sorry about ....it must be impossible.

>

> I have a parental question for all you parents....My

> four year old is

> becoming a menace. I just rescued Sara (2) (non Ds

> twin) from him. He had

> hit her in the face and she had a bloody nose! The

> reason he hit her is

> because she said that Woody was Buz (Toy Story). I

> made him sit on his bed

> for 15 minutes. I then talked with him...asked him

> if he wanted to live

> someone else? This really seemed to upset him.

>

> It goes on like this every day! I don't know if it

> is normal for a 4 yr. old

> to hit his sister all the time or if the kid is a

> budding physcopath! Tell

> me.

>

> Quinn 4, Sara and Maggie 2, and Teddy 2 months

>

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July 15, 2002

Yes, switch back for the remainder of your workout because next time

you might be able to do 3 reps, then 4, etc. Before too long you will

be able to do your entire workout with this amount of weight. I have

to do this all the time and it works wonders as far as muscle

stimulation/growth. Start out with the heavier weight while you're

fresh after your warm up set or whatever. You will see that it won't

take long to do your complete set at the new weight. Way to go!

Stasia

July 15, 2002

Noelle,

Congratulations, you have found your current point of failure! You

know what is going to happen now? When you go to do your work out

next time, you are going to be noticibly stronger.

When I get to failure on my 6 rep I do not go back to a lower weight

and finish. I figure I've hit a 10, which is what we are really

looking for, and just wait a minute and go to my super-set.

You are not a weakling. Concentration curls are hard, and 15# is a

bit of weight. Look at it this way, you have now set a new record

for yourself! You've never lifted that much before! Be proud of

that, and know that you will lift even more next time.

Alys

July 15, 2002

> Noelle,

>

> Congratulations, you have found your current point of failure! You

> know what is going to happen now? When you go to do your work out

> next time, you are going to be noticibly stronger.

>

> When I get to failure on my 6 rep I do not go back to a lower

weight

> and finish. I figure I've hit a 10, which is what we are really

> looking for, and just wait a minute and go to my super-set.

>

> You are not a weakling. Concentration curls are hard, and 15# is a

> bit of weight. Look at it this way, you have now set a new record

> for yourself! You've never lifted that much before! Be proud of

> that, and know that you will lift even more next time.

>

> Alys

Thanks for the encouragement Alys!

I do feel like I did accomplish something. And, I'm soooo glad I got

a heavier weight set. I can build up to 40lbs on those and I'm

looking forward to the day that I can do hammer curls with 40lbs.

Noelle

March 5, 2007

Hi Angie,

In our experence with , the schools years ebb and flow like the

tides, and change like the seasons. We usually start off a tad rocky,

as tests the new teacher. Lasts about 6 weeks, give or take a

week. Then she buckles down and really starts hitting the books, which

takes her through Christmas break. She has her days during this time,

but generally she is getting a lot done. After Chrismas break is the

nasty season. We come back, she usually gets sick in January, her

birthday is in January.... January stinks. Feb. doesn't get much

better, as the post-Christmas break work difficulty increases

dramatically and her non-compliant episodes are daily rather than

weekly. This is not saying she doesn't get work done, but it's a

struggle to get her to do the work, even work she's capable of doing.

She usually senses our dispair (this must be it) about this time of

year, and shapes up for a month or two, then the standardized testing

begins in May, so the stress that the teachers are under shows on

and she begins to get a bit sassy. After testing, she usually

finishes the year up pretty well (luckily), as her IEP is in June, so

she leaves everyone with warm fuzzies for the summer, knowing her

placement for the next year is perfect. In the fall, we begin again.

It's funny because I started seeing a " school year pattern " a couple

years ago, but it was funny today during a meeting with the principal,

where she said " well, isn't this about the time of the year

has trouble getting/staying on task? " So apparently, others recognize

it too :-) That said, you still have to deal with the day to day

issues, but things change throughout the year, and sometimes you just

have to wait out a difficult phase. That doens't mean " do nothing " but

realizing that no matter what you try, you may just go through a time

where things don't click.

Good luck,

, mom to (11), (9 DS), and Sammy (7)

Angie Tate wrote:

> Seems to me that Syd and her EC teacher isnt jiving anymore. This was

> a girl that loved Sydnie and Sydnie loved her. She is a first year

> teacher and is trying to save the world. She knows Sydnie can do the

> work (only with her one hr a day) but Sydnie seems done with her. I

> think she has a lot going on......work wise as well as wanting these

> kids to succeed that she is carrying a big load and I think Syd is

> feeling alot from her teacher in a not so good way.

> I dont know what to do ....I talked to B today and we both cried (shh

> dont tell anyone)....I told her she couldnt save the world but

> whatever her and Syd had going on....FIX IT. Sydnie was my first

> priority...and if she didnt change her approach back to the way it was

> mid year......neither of them would make it.

> ~Angie

> Research Associate of Child Development and Human Relations to Sydnie

> (5/26/00) and Saylor (4/30/04)

> www.babiesonline.com/babies/s/sydniebrooke

> *updated 10/01/06*

> www.babiesonline.com/babies/b/babytate

> *updated 10/01/06*

>

> " May God Bless You As He Has Us "

>

> An extra little chromosome,

> that's all it is, you see.

> Where all of you were born with two,

> I was blessed with three

>

> " My Children are God's gift to me.

> How I raise them, is my gift to God. "

>

March 7, 2007

In a message dated 3/5/2007 1:14:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

atate526@... writes:

Sydnie was my first priority...and if she didnt change her approach back to

the way it was mid year......neither of them would make it.

Just read your email...how is it going for Sydnie now?

Laurie

Mom to Bri, , Kayla and Marissa

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March 25, 2010

I have just recently joined this group. I am a mother of 2 girls (5 and 3) and

one boy (9 months). All of my children are " current " on their vaccines...but

now, after reading a lot of literature, I feel extremely guilty for having them

vaccinated. What do I do at this point? Is there anything I can do?

March 25, 2010

You can stop vaccinating them. You are far from alone in having begun vaccinating and then questioning it (including me!). No need to feel guilty if you thought you were doing the right thing. What made you think to research it? Are your children okay?

Winnie What do I do?Vaccinations > I have just recently joined this group. I am a mother of 2 girls > (5 and 3) and one boy (9 months). All of my children are > "current" on their vaccines...but now, after reading a lot of > literature, I feel extremely guilty for having them vaccinated. > What do I do at this point? Is there anything I can do? > >

March 25, 2010

That's what I did. Vax'd son to 5 yrs and daughter to 18 mos (given at 2 yrs.)

Steph

What do I do?Vaccinations > I have just recently joined this group. I am a mother of 2 girls > (5 and 3) and one boy (9 months). All of my children are > "current" on their vaccines...but now, after reading a lot of > literature, I feel extremely guilty for having them vaccinated. > What do I do at this point? Is there anything I can do? > >

March 25, 2010

My children seem fine. They all have dry skin, like me, so I never thought it

might be due to the vaccines. My oldest is a bit hyperactive...so far, nothing

too concerning to me. I guess time will tell. If they have a reaction, how do I

know it is actually from the vaccine?

>

> You can stop vaccinating them. You are far from alone in having begun

vaccinating and then questioning it (including me!). No need to feel guilty if

you thought you were doing the right thing. What made you think to research it?