argument for vaccines not working

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I was...uh...'discussing' with someone today lol...anyway, I was talking about

how these diseases that we used to get in childhood, we aren't, so many people

are getting them as adults. I typed a sentence about how we used to all get

chicken pox but now you can't even find anyone who has it if you WANT your kid

to get sick. Then I deleted it because I realized that did not 'jive' with the

argument that vaccines do not work. They would argue that if they don't work,

why is it so hard to find chicken pox now? And of course we know that kids that

are vaxed for it do get it as well, but truthfully it IS harder to find...

So, perhaps it is because I just woke up, or it's my pregnancy brain but what is

my valid argument here?!

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Vaccines alter the expression of diseases, rather than stop them. For instance, a vaccinated child can be infectious for whooping cough and pass it onto others without showing any symptoms.Measles can come out as atypical measles which has a milder rash but is more serious and can go on for months and cause pneumonia.A lot of the epidemics in vaccinated populations are occuring in teenagers when the diseases are more serious, because the vaccine has waned and altered the age distribution of the disease.A lot of diseases are also re-named or called 'non-specific viral infections' based on the person's vaccine status.I was diagnosed with rubella when I was a kid, which was unlikely since I had already had it once, but my mother and the doctor both said it 'must be rubella since I was vaccinated for measles'. I

personally think it was measles.Since the purpose of vaccines is supposed to prevent illness and death, yet they push the diseases back till teen years when the encephalitis and death rate is very much higher, they cannot be said to 'work'.Joanna. From: erinfloyd101 <erinfloyd101@...>Subject: argument for vaccines not workingVaccinations Date: Monday, 1 March, 2010, 18:03

I was...uh...' discussing' with someone today lol...anyway, I was talking about how these diseases that we used to get in childhood, we aren't, so many people are getting them as adults. I typed a sentence about how we used to all get chicken pox but now you can't even find anyone who has it if you WANT your kid to get sick. Then I deleted it because I realized that did not 'jive' with the argument that vaccines do not work. They would argue that if they don't work, why is it so hard to find chicken pox now? And of course we know that kids that are vaxed for it do get it as well, but truthfully it IS harder to find...

So, perhaps it is because I just woke up, or it's my pregnancy brain but what is my valid argument here?!

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That's a wonderful explanation!

And I would rather nurse a sick child back to health than injure a healthy child

with vaccines.

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> I was...uh...' discussing' with someone today lol...anyway, I was

talking about how these diseases that we used to get in childhood, we aren't, so

many people are getting them as adults. I typed a sentence about how we used to

all get chicken pox but now you can't even find anyone who has it if you WANT

your kid to get sick. Then I deleted it because I realized that did not 'jive'

with the argument that vaccines do not work. They would argue that if they

don't work, why is it so hard to find chicken pox now? And of course we know

that kids that are vaxed for it do get it as well, but truthfully it IS harder

to find...

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> So, perhaps it is because I just woke up, or it's my pregnancy brain but what

is my valid argument here?!

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I don't see many adults getting these diseases. Over 20 years, I've seen two adults get chicken pox and it was severe but they recovered fine. One person was from India--not sure how common it was over there 15 years ago. I've never seen any other adult get any childhood disease, and I know a LOT of people.

As for why it's so hard to find chicken pox now, I don't know for sure. But perhaps it's the "vaccines cause low-level chronic disease" theory, where you can't get a good case of it if there's a constant low degree of the disease in you.

I wouldn't get into trying to prove vaccines don't work. You can't. But you can say that none are guaranteed to work. No doctor will deny that. Instead of answering that anyway, ask the opposite question: if the CP vaccine (in particular) works, then how come there are so many outbreaks in vaccinated children? You'd have to be ready with some info to prove it so google it and have a reliable source to provide to them.

Winnie

argument for vaccines not workingVaccinations > I was...uh...'discussing' with someone today lol...anyway, I was > talking about how these diseases that we used to get in > childhood, we aren't, so many people are getting them as adults. > I typed a sentence about how we used to all get chicken pox but > now you can't even find anyone who has it if you WANT your kid > to get sick. Then I deleted it because I realized that did not > 'jive' with the argument that vaccines do not work. They would > argue that if they don't work, why is it so hard to find chicken > pox now? And of course we know that kids that are vaxed for it > do get it as well, but truthfully it IS harder to find...> So, perhaps it is because I just woke up, or it's my pregnancy > brain but what is my valid argument here?! > > > >