Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 DTaP is no good. If your ever worried about tetnus request the TIG shot. (Tetnus Immuno Globulin.) It's the actual tetnus antibodies instead of all the extra stuff. Jenna Forbes"SuperMommy" From: twosweeties284 <aande2001@...>Vaccinations Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 8:25:31 PMSubject: Q. about Dtap My daughter stepped on something and ended up with a staph infection on the underside of her pinky toe. I didn't realize something was wrong until she started limping....she had a pocket of puss on the bottom of her foot and the infection had caused a red line to spread up her foot, toward her ankle. I took her to our family doctor who drained the blister - he saw a puncture, but there wasn't anything in it - so we didn't know if there could've been a splinter or other object in there, or if she simply stepped on something sharp. Since she is not vaccinated, he told me I had to go to the ER. We were admitted and she was put on IV antibiotics due to the infection. I also allowed them to give her one dose of DtaP because they scared me to death that she could get lockjaw (of which he said there is no cure) and she would be in pain for the rest of her life. So....now of course, they want us to continue the series (I don't) but they do have me scared about tetanus...I don't know that much about it. Can anyone give me some insight on it - how prevalent is it, treatment, etc. We live in a very old house - I worry about a repeat of this happening again....thanks so much!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 At 06:25 PM 1/16/2010, you wrote: >My daughter stepped on something and ended up with a staph infection >on the underside of her pinky toe. I didn't realize something was >wrong until she started limping....she had a pocket of puss on the >bottom of her foot and the infection had caused a red line to spread >up her foot, toward her ankle. I took her to our family doctor who >drained the blister - he saw a puncture, but there wasn't anything >in it - so we didn't know if there could've been a splinter or other >object in there, or if she simply stepped on something sharp. Since >she is not vaccinated, he told me I had to go to the ER. that doesn't make sense. why couldn't he handle it. >We were admitted and she was put on IV antibiotics due to the >infection. I also allowed them to give her one dose of DtaP because >they scared me to death that she could get lockjaw (of which he said >there is no cure) another absolute lie - that's why everyone has to become very informed and very ready. Most people survive tetanus - it isn't always very comfortable, but they survive. And they violated their own protocols - if a child is NOT vaccinated, then they should give tetanus immunglobulin as it is immediate protection and the vaccine is not (according to their protocol). Of course I wouldn't want any of them as immunglobulin is pooled blood of vaccinated and I don't believe a vaccine gives any protection at all. There is no immunity for tetanus even if you get tetanus, so how could there be immunity from the vaccine. >and she would be in pain for the rest of her life. So....now of >course, they want us to continue the series (I don't) but they do >have me scared about tetanus...I don't know that much about it. Can >anyone give me some insight on it - how prevalent is it, treatment, >etc. We live in a very old house - I worry about a repeat of this >happening again.... http://www.wellwithin1.com/tetanus.htm is my webpage on this and I also offer a Childhood Diseases class that will go over all of these diseases in detail. Be prepared for all of this by educating yourselves before this happens to you, all of you Sheri Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start January 27 & 28 http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 The dr. called the ER and told him what was happening...they told him we needed the immunglobulin - so we had to go there to get it - and we did have that first...but then were told that would help her now, but she also needed the vax. You say that people survive it - it's not always comfortable....what might happen to them? I've read a lot and think that I knew enough...but you're right...I have to go back and re-read and go even deeper - you just don't think that things like that could come up....at least I didn't. I think about chicken pox or whooping cough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 At 07:34 PM 1/16/2010, you wrote: The dr. called the ER and told him what was happening...they told him we needed the immunglobulin - so we had to go there to get it - and we did have that first...but then were told that would help her now, but she also needed the vax. so they gave that and the vax, both? You say that people survive it - it's not always comfortable....what might happen to them? they survive and are fine. What happens is tetanus can cause spasm in muscles and the problem is when this is the muscles that help you breath and then a person is put in intensive care on a ventilator (breathing machine) and also give medications that cause relaxation and stop the muscle spasms is the main one............what we call supportive treatment - IV's, feeding tube or nutrition via IV, pain meds....... & tetanus anti-toxin or immune globulin http://www.emedicinehealth.com/tetanus/page7_em.htm#Medical%20Treatment and it passes eventually People recover and have no long lasting effects (unless it took them awhile to get the supportive help and were without oxygen to the brain) the above site says " Overall, about 25%-50% of people with generalized tetanus will die. " but you have to realize that most who get tetanus are elderly with other immune system problems and health problems or drug addicts or neonatal deaths from contaminated instruments in 3rd world countries. Even Wikipedia says http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus In the United States, approximately 100 people become infected with tetanus each year, and there are about five deaths from tetanus each year. when you consider most adults are not caught up on their tetanus vaccines....................and they aren't getting tetanus. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/Pubs/surv-manual/chpt16-tetanus.pdf In 2005, a total of 27 tetanus cases and 2 deaths were reported to the national tetanus surveillance system Sheri I've read a lot and think that I knew enough...but you're right...I have to go back and re-read and go even deeper - you just don't think that things like that could come up....at least I didn't. I think about chicken pox or whooping cough... Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start January 27 & 28 http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 So they gave you the immunoglobulin and then the DTaP? They should know better! Regardless, there's no reason to get a diptheria or pertussis shot where tetanus is concerned. If you haven't vaxed so far, then no need to continue with their "you have to have the rest" plan. Well, at least now that you know they don't know what they're doing (giving shots for communicable diseases when tetanus is the worry, giving any kind of a vaccine for a staph infection, etc.) then you certainly have every right to question their judgment on continuing the series. It is experiences like these that make us stronger next time around. Hope her foot is better! Winnie Re: Q. about DtapVaccinations > The dr. called the ER and told him what was happening...they > told him we needed the immunglobulin - so we had to go there to > get it - and we did have that first...but then were told that > would help her now, but she also needed the vax.> > You say that people survive it - it's not always > comfortable....what might happen to them?> > I've read a lot and think that I knew enough...but you're > right...I have to go back and re-read and go even deeper - you > just don't think that things like that could come up....at least > I didn't. I think about chicken pox or whooping cough...> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Yes - the gave both...citing that the immunoglobulin would protect her at that moment and the DTaP to protect her moving forward...since we don't know what she stepped on..She had an IV antibiotic to treat the staph...I asked for just a tetanus, but they said that since she wasn't previously vaxed and given her age (two years), that they couldn't give her just the single - it could only be combo. But now my husband is freaked out because they told us that tetanus is everywhere, how easily this episode could happen again and how bad it would be if she got tetanus - so now he's pushing me to complete the series. > > So they gave you the immunoglobulin and then the DTaP? They should know better! Regardless, there's no reason to get a diptheria or pertussis shot where tetanus is concerned. If you haven't vaxed so far, then no need to continue with their " you have to have the rest " plan. > > Well, at least now that you know they don't know what they're doing (giving shots for communicable diseases when tetanus is the worry, giving any kind of a vaccine for a staph infection, etc.) then you certainly have every right to question their judgment on continuing the series. It is experiences like these that make us stronger next time around. > > Hope her foot is better! > > Winnie > > > Re: Q. about Dtap > Vaccinations > > > The dr. called the ER and told him what was happening...they > > told him we needed the immunglobulin - so we had to go there to > > get it - and we did have that first...but then were told that > > would help her now, but she also needed the vax. > > > > You say that people survive it - it's not always > > comfortable....what might happen to them? > > > > I've read a lot and think that I knew enough...but you're > > right...I have to go back and re-read and go even deeper - you > > just don't think that things like that could come up....at least > > I didn't. I think about chicken pox or whooping cough... > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Well, they're lying. First of all, they probably don't have the single so that's not why they wouldn't give it. Second, her age has nothing to do with it and they darn well know it. Third, when one is not previously vaccinated they are given the immunoglobulin shot, NOT a DTaP vaccine. Last, are we truly supposed to believe that pertussis and diptheria shots are necessary to treat suspected tetanus (which this is not, they are merely mentioning it's a possibility NOT that they actually believe she has it)? I mean, really. These are educated professionals?? So, since they're lying at every turn, you don't have any reason to trust their assessment that tetanus is around every corner waiting to pounce on you and your children (and it's not or I wouldn't be here writing this). Yes, this episode could happen again, theoretically, but easily? With four kids, I've never had it happen. They make it seems as if this is a frequent occurrence for all people. Not true. And if they can't get you to vaccinate by giving you accurate information, and instead they resort to lies, then you have to question their motives. Are they purposefully lying or just ignorant? Either way, I would do the opposite of what they say just on principle. Since your husband is in the grips of panic and not thinking rationally, I would override any authority he has to make medical decisions until he comes to his senses. Winnie Re: Q. about Dtap> > Vaccinations > > > > > The dr. called the ER and told him what was happening...they > > > told him we needed the immunglobulin - so we had to go there > to > > > get it - and we did have that first...but then were told > that > > > would help her now, but she also needed the vax.> > > > > > You say that people survive it - it's not always > > > comfortable....what might happen to them?> > > > > > I've read a lot and think that I knew enough...but you're > > > right...I have to go back and re-read and go even deeper - > you > > > just don't think that things like that could come up....at > least > > > I didn't. I think about chicken pox or whooping cough...> > > > > > > > >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 share my webpages and what I shared in the last email with your husband sheri At 12:10 PM 1/17/2010, you wrote: >Yes - the gave both...citing that the immunoglobulin would protect >her at that moment and the DTaP to protect her moving >forward...since we don't know what she stepped on..She had an IV >antibiotic to treat the staph...I asked for just a tetanus, but they >said that since she wasn't previously vaxed and given her age (two >years), that they couldn't give her just the single - it could only >be combo. But now my husband is freaked out because they told us >that tetanus is everywhere, how easily this episode could happen >again and how bad it would be if she got tetanus - so now he's >pushing me to complete the series. > > > > > > > > So they gave you the immunoglobulin and then the DTaP? They > should know better! Regardless, there's no reason to get a > diptheria or pertussis shot where tetanus is concerned. If you > haven't vaxed so far, then no need to continue with their " you have > to have the rest " plan. > > > > Well, at least now that you know they don't know what they're > doing (giving shots for communicable diseases when tetanus is the > worry, giving any kind of a vaccine for a staph infection, etc.) > then you certainly have every right to question their judgment on > continuing the series. It is experiences like these that make us > stronger next time around. > > > > Hope her foot is better! > > > > Winnie > > > > > > Re: Q. about Dtap > > Vaccinations > > > > > The dr. called the ER and told him what was happening...they > > > told him we needed the immunglobulin - so we had to go there to > > > get it - and we did have that first...but then were told that > > > would help her now, but she also needed the vax. > > > > > > You say that people survive it - it's not always > > > comfortable....what might happen to them? > > > > > > I've read a lot and think that I knew enough...but you're > > > right...I have to go back and re-read and go even deeper - you > > > just don't think that things like that could come up....at least > > > I didn't. I think about chicken pox or whooping cough... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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