Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 In a message dated 1/10/2010 12:21:38 AM US Mountain Standard Time, erinfloyd101@... writes: So they diagnosed it as staph Just out of curiosity, how was this diagnosis made? Becca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 In a message dated 1/10/2010 12:31:58 AM US Mountain Standard Time, erinfloyd101@... writes: visual only...by a few different people I was just wondering because I don't think it can really be diagnosed as "staph" without a culture. I also wonder if they could've prescribed something topical to try first ... just my thoughts anyway. Did they think it was MRSA? Becca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 visual only...by a few different people. > > In a message dated 1/10/2010 12:21:38 AM US Mountain Standard Time, > erinfloyd101@... writes: > > > So they diagnosed it as staph > > Just out of curiosity, how was this diagnosis made? > > Becca > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I was trying something topical--bacitracin or something like that. They didn't think it was necessarily MRSA but said that if it didn't start clearing up in a week or so to come back because that meant the abx wasn't working and it could be MRSA. Others suggested to only give it a few days. But we started it Wed. and it was starting to improve by Friday. We finished yesterday and really the only sign of it that's left is the 'sore' that was a huge crater looking thing, though it is now just a little red 'scar.' > > In a message dated 1/10/2010 12:31:58 AM US Mountain Standard Time, > erinfloyd101@... writes: > > > visual only...by a few different people > > I was just wondering because I don't think it can really be diagnosed as > " staph " without a culture. I also wonder if they could've prescribed > something topical to try first ... just my thoughts anyway. Did they think it was > MRSA? > > Becca > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Before I took her in, along with trying other things, I sent a few emails with the picture to my midwife, doctor friend, etc...I also did searches (which was pretty hard as I guess they hesitate to put baby's 'crotches' on the internet) and it didn't look like any of the yeast pictures I saw. There was NO overall redness which is common in the yeast--it just looked like separate 'pimples'--after someone mentioned staph, I did search that and that's what it looked like. Yes, we have been giving her probiotics... > > This sounds similar to what my son had awhile back..also a cloth diapered baby. Our Ped told me it was just a yeast infection and to put an antifungal cream on it. It cleared up within 2 days! He still has a little scar from the " crater " ...I didn't take him in right away either..I tried other things first including switching detergents, disposable diapers and homeopathic treatments. >  > Did you start her on Probiotics to re-boost her immune system? May be something to think about. >  > Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 To answer your question, the real issue with antibiotics is multi-fold - first, they kill much of your internal bacteria, the bad, the good and everything in between and can weaken immunity (so giving your DD Pre and Probiotcs is perfect to counterbalance that), second, they are routinely given to non-organically raised live stock, which means if you eat these animals you get their residual antibiotics, and their bacteria killing ability (avoid meat/poultry/farm raised fish or choose organic and this is not an issue), which leads to the third and perhaps most disturbing issue which is antibiotic resistance. I want to have an antibiotic work for my kids when/if they ever need it. IMHO many physicians and pediatricians over prescribe antibiotics (and other meds for that matter), so whenever possible, I choose a non med approach, but if DD truly had a staph infection, and I'd already tried numerous other remedies to no avail, then I'd give the antibiotics, and then I'd load her up with good bacteria to rebuild her immune system. And since she's nursing I'd add a bit of raw garlic to my food (tastes great in mashed potatoes) and avoid dairy for about a week. To me it's not about never having an antibiotic, it's about trying other things first, and taking an antibiotic as a last resort, so I don't build a resistance to antibiotics. Best of Health,Isn't it better to be safe, than sorry...http://www.EcoCleanInfo.com http://www.LandOfAnd.com/PlanB Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:12 AM, erinfloyd101 <erinfloyd101@...> wrote: I'm reading some 'old' (two weeks old hehe!) messages here and there is some talk about antibiotics and lowering the immune response, etc.  While I definitely agree that antibiotics are way overused, do you think, or is there 'proof' that some things require it or do better with it, etc? A few weeks ago, my daughter (18 months old, still nursing) had a weird diaper rash.  She is cloth-diapered and RARELY gets a rash but this one was weird and kept getting worse and worse, it started to get 'craters.'  So I FINALLY took her into the doctor the day before New Year's Eve because she developed a fever of over 102 (and of course we weren't 'treating' it.  I was concerned about waiting because with the holiday and the weekend if I didn't go then, it would be 5 days before I could get her in again, short of going to the emergency room (bleh).  So they diagnosed it as staph (how she got that--and only on her butt I still don't have a clue) and gave us a prescription for a strong antibiotic (cleocin I think?  We just finished yesterday and tossed the bottle).  That was the first med she has EVER had (not counting homeopathics) and she did not take to it well lol  It really felt odd having to give her medicine but I didn't know what else to do.  I looked up to see if there were any homeopathics to help and didn't find anything.  I had tried putting breastmilk, coconut oil, vinegar, and other 'antibacterial' natural stuff on it, all to no avail.  So I'm wondering, was the antibiotic truly the best choice?  It doesn't really matter now as she is done with it but information for next time is always good. I'm also wondering what is the best way to get past this, ie. the effects on her body.  I've been giving her probiotics and she always nurses a ton anyway.  She has had some slightly messier diapers but nothing I'd call diarrhea, no thrush, etc.  Anything else I should do? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 you can't tell what bacteria is present just by looking at something And all antibiotics have the potential for harm and in most cases the body can handle the situation. But what needs to be addressed is why - address the weaknesses that may have lead to the illness. Probiotics certainly but who knows if they cover everything that has been lost, is my opinion. If there is a next time, see a homeopath or naturopath, is my advice Sheri At 09:15 AM 1/11/2010, you wrote: To answer your question, the real issue with antibiotics is multi-fold - first, they kill much of your internal bacteria, the bad, the good and everything in between and can weaken immunity (so giving your DD Pre and Probiotcs is perfect to counterbalance that), second, they are routinely given to non-organically raised live stock, which means if you eat these animals you get their residual antibiotics, and their bacteria killing ability (avoid meat/poultry/farm raised fish or choose organic and this is not an issue), which leads to the third and perhaps most disturbing issue which is antibiotic resistance. I want to have an antibiotic work for my kids when/if they ever need it. IMHO many physicians and pediatricians over prescribe antibiotics (and other meds for that matter), so whenever possible, I choose a non med approach, but if DD truly had a staph infection, and I'd already tried numerous other remedies to no avail, then I'd give the antibiotics, and then I'd load her up with good bacteria to rebuild her immune system. And since she's nursing I'd add a bit of raw garlic to my food (tastes great in mashed potatoes) and avoid dairy for about a week. To me it's not about never having an antibiotic, it's about trying other things first, and taking an antibiotic as a last resort, so I don't build a resistance to antibiotics. Best of Health, Isn't it better to be safe, than sorry... http://www.EcoCleanInfo.com http://www.LandOfAnd.com/PlanB Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:12 AM, erinfloyd101 <erinfloyd101@... > wrote: I'm reading some 'old' (two weeks old hehe!) messages here and there is some talk about antibiotics and lowering the immune response, etc. While I definitely agree that antibiotics are way overused, do you think, or is there 'proof' that some things require it or do better with it, etc? A few weeks ago, my daughter (18 months old, still nursing) had a weird diaper rash. She is cloth-diapered and RARELY gets a rash but this one was weird and kept getting worse and worse, it started to get 'craters.' So I FINALLY took her into the doctor the day before New Year's Eve because she developed a fever of over 102 (and of course we weren't 'treating' it. I was concerned about waiting because with the holiday and the weekend if I didn't go then, it would be 5 days before I could get her in again, short of going to the emergency room (bleh). So they diagnosed it as staph (how she got that--and only on her butt I still don't have a clue) and gave us a prescription for a strong antibiotic (cleocin I think? We just finished yesterday and tossed the bottle). That was the first med she has EVER had (not counting homeopathics) and she did not take to it well lol It really felt odd having to give her medicine but I didn't know what else to do. I looked up to see if there were any homeopathics to help and didn't find anything. I had tried putting breastmilk, coconut oil, vinegar, and other 'antibacterial' natural stuff on it, all to no avail. So I'm wondering, was the antibiotic truly the best choice? It doesn't really matter now as she is done with it but information for next time is always good. I'm also wondering what is the best way to get past this, ie. the effects on her body. I've been giving her probiotics and she always nurses a ton anyway. She has had some slightly messier diapers but nothing I'd call diarrhea, no thrush, etc. Anything else I should do? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 When my LO was still in diapers, she got a staph infection on her bottom as well. The timing was perfect because I had just watched a show about the antibacterial properties of olive oil and olive leaf extract. So I started putting extra virgin olive oil on it at every diaper change. It cleared up very quickly. She did break out a couple more times when I forgot to use it, but then I got on top of it until it was gone. Once she was out of diapers, she didn't break out at all anymore. Hope this is helpful! Mother Tory From: erinfloyd101 <erinfloyd101@...>Subject: Re: Staph and AntibioticsVaccinations Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 11:38 AM Before I took her in, along with trying other things, I sent a few emails with the picture to my midwife, doctor friend, etc...I also did searches (which was pretty hard as I guess they hesitate to put baby's 'crotches' on the internet) and it didn't look like any of the yeast pictures I saw. There was NO overall redness which is common in the yeast--it just looked like separate 'pimples'--after someone mentioned staph, I did search that and that's what it looked like.Yes, we have been giving her probiotics.. .>> This sounds similar to what my son had awhile back..also a cloth diapered baby. Our Ped told me it was just a yeast infection and to put an antifungal cream on it. It cleared up within 2 days! He still has a little scar from the "crater"...I didn't take him in right away either..I tried other things first including switching detergents, disposable diapers and homeopathic treatments. > > Did you start her on Probiotics to re-boost her immune system? May be something to think about.> > Kim> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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