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In a message dated 5/18/2004 3:19:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

samsonwill@... writes:

> However, the doctor doesnt like to give ibuprofen to infants- he

> insists on Tylenol. I cant find any information about this onthe

> web. CAn you help?

>

Samson, Always gave Tylenol to Liam with no problem. The pediatrician

mentioned that she thought Ibuprofen works faster to bring a fever down. Other

than that she has ne preference. There have been a number of 'rumors' of what

not to use because of DS, but I haven't heard any verified.

Kathy, Liam's mom( 6)

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samsonwill wrote:

>Have any of you heard that kids with Downs should not be given

>Tylenol?

>

We have never been told that about (6 DS), and that is with a

grand total of probably 7 different peds (in two different states :-)

We have been told that if her fever is high, we can alternate Tylenol

and ibuprofin, starting with tylenol, then waiting 2 hours, then

ibuprofin, then 2 hours then tylenol again..... something like that

(it's been awhile). We have also been told to not wait the entire 4

hours between tylenol doses (like after surgery)....... 3 hours and 20

minutes was enough (how they got to that number, I don't know). We have

also had Tylenol+codeine perscribed and administered in the hospital (by

the ENT).

I would worry more about ibuprofin (and that does not mean worry..... I

use it all the time, especially with ear infections as it seems to work

in 20 minutes!) than tylenol. Tylenol has some bad history because

people have overdosed their kids because they used the infant drops

(higher concentration) instead of the regular liquid..... you may notice

that peds are more cautious about answering the " how much tylenol "

question..... they routinely ask " what kind are you using " , rather than

assuming that because a kid is 3 or 4 that their parents aren't still

using the last of the infant drops. I think this overdose causes kidney

failure, so maybe that's how this got started.

, mom to (8), (6 DS), and (4)

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My gastro allows up to 4 extra-strength tylenol in a 24-hour period. He also has me on rx strength naproxen (aleve) prn - max 500 mg every 12 hrs.

De

Faith is the ability to not panic.

-----Original Message-----From: suzie [mailto:suzieandsandy@...] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 1:19 AMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: hepc symptoms/"cures"

Body aches try an over the counter analgesic, just NOT tylenol or ask your doc - the G P not the liver doc.

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Hi De:

Make certain that everyone you know who is a Liver Transplant Recipient also knows to stay away from NSAIDs such as naproxen. It is OK for non-transplants- but a no-no for those of us with new Livers.

Some gastros and Transplant Specialists will recommend up to 2000mg (2 tabs bid) daily. My doctor said that I can take 2 tabs (500mg each) tid. A matter of the doctor's choice and the patient's condition.

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De, your lucky, before TP I could not take anything but the diuretic, blood pressure pill and that damn lactalose... Motley <dmotley@...> wrote:

My gastro allows up to 4 extra-strength tylenol in a 24-hour period. He also has me on rx strength naproxen (aleve) prn - max 500 mg every 12 hrs.

De

Faith is the ability to not panic.

Kathy Brunow

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My

liver doc says I can take up to 4 extra-strength in 24 hours.

De

RE:

Liz S & anti D's

tylenol is WAY WAY damaging to a liver, specially an

already diseased liver. just puttin that out there. connie

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up to 4 in a 24 hr period is wat mitchs dr pagear

well. d

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> My liver doc says I can take up to 4 extra-strength

in 24 hours.

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> De

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> RE: Liz

S & anti D's

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> tylenol is WAY WAY damaging to a liver, specially an

already diseased liver

> .

> just puttin that out there. connie

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De, extra strength tylenol is 500mg per tab.

2000mg per day is not a toxic dose and will not screw up your liver.

Trust me on this one.

Just don't go over the 2000 a day as that will bring you into a grey area.

Reg. tylenol is 325 mg.

Just don't take all 4 at once,Q6h is fine.

danny Motley <dmotley@...> wrote:

My liver doc says I can take up to 4 extra-strength in 24 hours.

De

-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of connie mcclainSent:

Sunday, October 02, 2005 7:40 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: Liz S & anti D's

tylenol is WAY WAY damaging to a liver, specially an already diseased liver. just puttin that out there. connie

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Yeah,

I know. But my headache doc doesn’t want me to take anything over the

counter because it can cause rebound headaches. So I mostly just tough it out.

De

RE:

tylenol

De, extra strength tylenol is 500mg per tab.

2000mg per day is not a toxic dose and

will not screw up your liver.

Trust me on this one.

Just don't go over the 2000 a day as that will

bring you into a grey area.

Reg. tylenol is 325 mg.

Just don't take all 4 at once,Q6h is fine.

danny

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Try Tiger Balm on your temples, it works for me.

danny Motley <dmotley@...> wrote:

Yeah, I know. But my headache doc doesn’t want me to take anything over the counter because it can cause rebound headaches. So I mostly just tough it out.

De

-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of captdannySent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:41 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: tylenol

De, extra strength tylenol is 500mg per tab.

2000mg per day is not a toxic dose and will not screw up your liver.

Trust me on this one.

Just don't go over the 2000 a day as that will bring you into a grey area.

Reg. tylenol is 325 mg.

Just don't take all 4 at once,Q6h is fine.

danny

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My Dr is the same way. But I have presc Motley <dmotley@...> wrote:

Yeah, I know. But my headache doc doesn’t want me to take anything over the counter because it can cause rebound headaches. So I mostly just tough it out.

De

-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of captdannySent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:41 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: tylenol

De, extra strength tylenol is 500mg per tab.

2000mg per day is not a toxic dose and will not screw up your liver.

Trust me on this one.

Just don't go over the 2000 a day as that will bring you into a grey area.

Reg. tylenol is 325 mg.

Just don't take all 4 at once,Q6h is fine.

danny

for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

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My Dr is the same way. But I have presc Motley <dmotley@...> wrote:

Yeah, I know. But my headache doc doesn’t want me to take anything over the counter because it can cause rebound headaches. So I mostly just tough it out.

De

-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of captdannySent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:41 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: tylenol

De, extra strength tylenol is 500mg per tab.

2000mg per day is not a toxic dose and will not screw up your liver.

Trust me on this one.

Just don't go over the 2000 a day as that will bring you into a grey area.

Reg. tylenol is 325 mg.

Just don't take all 4 at once,Q6h is fine.

danny

for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

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My Dr is the same way. But I have presc Motley <dmotley@...> wrote:

Yeah, I know. But my headache doc doesn’t want me to take anything over the counter because it can cause rebound headaches. So I mostly just tough it out.

De

-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of captdannySent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:41 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: tylenol

De, extra strength tylenol is 500mg per tab.

2000mg per day is not a toxic dose and will not screw up your liver.

Trust me on this one.

Just don't go over the 2000 a day as that will bring you into a grey area.

Reg. tylenol is 325 mg.

Just don't take all 4 at once,Q6h is fine.

danny

for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

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My Dr is the same way. But I have presc Motley <dmotley@...> wrote:

Yeah, I know. But my headache doc doesn’t want me to take anything over the counter because it can cause rebound headaches. So I mostly just tough it out.

De

-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of captdannySent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:41 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: tylenol

De, extra strength tylenol is 500mg per tab.

2000mg per day is not a toxic dose and will not screw up your liver.

Trust me on this one.

Just don't go over the 2000 a day as that will bring you into a grey area.

Reg. tylenol is 325 mg.

Just don't take all 4 at once,Q6h is fine.

danny

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De, whats a rebound headache? conniedannegrl <dannegrl2003@...> wrote:

My Dr is the same way. But I have presc Motley <dmotley@...> wrote:

Yeah, I know. But my headache doc doesn’t want me to take anything over the counter because it can cause rebound headaches. So I mostly just tough it out.

De

-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of captdannySent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:41 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: tylenol

De, extra strength tylenol is 500mg per tab.

2000mg per day is not a toxic dose and will not screw up your liver.

Trust me on this one.

Just don't go over the 2000 a day as that will bring you into a grey area.

Reg. tylenol is 325 mg.

Just don't take all 4 at once,Q6h is fine.

danny

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De, whats a rebound headache? conniedannegrl <dannegrl2003@...> wrote:

My Dr is the same way. But I have presc Motley <dmotley@...> wrote:

Yeah, I know. But my headache doc doesn’t want me to take anything over the counter because it can cause rebound headaches. So I mostly just tough it out.

De

-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of captdannySent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:41 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: tylenol

De, extra strength tylenol is 500mg per tab.

2000mg per day is not a toxic dose and will not screw up your liver.

Trust me on this one.

Just don't go over the 2000 a day as that will bring you into a grey area.

Reg. tylenol is 325 mg.

Just don't take all 4 at once,Q6h is fine.

danny

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And

remember that’s 4 extra strength Tylenol per 24 hours. Not 4 tonight and

4 again in the morning.

De

RE:

Prednisone

2000 mg of acetominaphen ( tylenol ) is the

most a normal liver can safely take. That would be 4 tylenol ex. My last

dr. was an idiot and had be on 3000 mg. per day.

Always remember that the person that comes in

last place in med. school is still called dr.

My numbers went thru the roof on the amount

that I was taking.

doctors are not god, I was a a nurse and have

seen too many mistakes.

danny

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Thankfully, it's a low-grade fever. She tends not to handle phenols very well

so I try to avoid meds with the dyes and flavors. I appreciate all the comments

and will try some of these ideas to make her more comfortable.

> > > Hi Everyone,

> > >

> > > If this message appears twice, I apologize. I believe that I

> > > accidentally deleted the other as I attempted to post it.

> > >

> > > My daughter has a fever which is in it's third day, but no other signs

> > > of illness. I'm not currently treating for yeast with bbiotin, Candex

> > > and and probiotics. She is absolutely miserable, but her speech is a

> > > little better since the fever started.

> > >

> > > Not sure if I should give her something to reduce the fever and make

> > > her more comfortable or let her body work this out. Could her system

> > > be working on the viruses without outside anti-viral assistance?

> > >

> > > Any suggestions? Thanks,

> > >

> > > Orelindel

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Thankfully, it's a low-grade fever. She tends not to handle phenols very well

so I try to avoid meds with the dyes and flavors. I appreciate all the comments

and will try some of these ideas to make her more comfortable.

> > > Hi Everyone,

> > >

> > > If this message appears twice, I apologize. I believe that I

> > > accidentally deleted the other as I attempted to post it.

> > >

> > > My daughter has a fever which is in it's third day, but no other signs

> > > of illness. I'm not currently treating for yeast with bbiotin, Candex

> > > and and probiotics. She is absolutely miserable, but her speech is a

> > > little better since the fever started.

> > >

> > > Not sure if I should give her something to reduce the fever and make

> > > her more comfortable or let her body work this out. Could her system

> > > be working on the viruses without outside anti-viral assistance?

> > >

> > > Any suggestions? Thanks,

> > >

> > > Orelindel

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hear you on the phenols....I kind of like the suppositories for that reason,

plus I can give

when she's asleep (yes...once she's out initially I can actually do this without

waking

her..my son is the same way....sleep -THANK goodness, has never been an issue

here :)

good luck

Leigh

> > > > Hi Everyone,

> > > >

> > > > If this message appears twice, I apologize. I believe that I

> > > > accidentally deleted the other as I attempted to post it.

> > > >

> > > > My daughter has a fever which is in it's third day, but no other signs

> > > > of illness. I'm not currently treating for yeast with bbiotin, Candex

> > > > and and probiotics. She is absolutely miserable, but her speech is a

> > > > little better since the fever started.

> > > >

> > > > Not sure if I should give her something to reduce the fever and make

> > > > her more comfortable or let her body work this out. Could her system

> > > > be working on the viruses without outside anti-viral assistance?

> > > >

> > > > Any suggestions? Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > Orelindel

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Hear you on the phenols....I kind of like the suppositories for that reason,

plus I can give

when she's asleep (yes...once she's out initially I can actually do this without

waking

her..my son is the same way....sleep -THANK goodness, has never been an issue

here :)

good luck

Leigh

> > > > Hi Everyone,

> > > >

> > > > If this message appears twice, I apologize. I believe that I

> > > > accidentally deleted the other as I attempted to post it.

> > > >

> > > > My daughter has a fever which is in it's third day, but no other signs

> > > > of illness. I'm not currently treating for yeast with bbiotin, Candex

> > > > and and probiotics. She is absolutely miserable, but her speech is a

> > > > little better since the fever started.

> > > >

> > > > Not sure if I should give her something to reduce the fever and make

> > > > her more comfortable or let her body work this out. Could her system

> > > > be working on the viruses without outside anti-viral assistance?

> > > >

> > > > Any suggestions? Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > Orelindel

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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On 10/23/2006 9:42:25 PM, Obie (obie@...) wrote:

> Would someone direct me to a site setting out the dangers of Tylenol,

> please? Obie.

>

Obie,

goto http://healthpsych.psy.vanderbilt.edu/TylenolDangers.htm

info is there plus other links.

Chuck

If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence,

try orderin' somebody else's dog around.

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OBIE.. Here is some data on Tylenol.. Allan D.

Acetaminophine Dangers: Is Tylenol Really Safe for Your Liver?

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By Emma S.

Dec 08 2005 03:01PM

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Acetaminophine, when taken as directed on the label, is usually considered safe

for adults and children but there are a few risks that you may not know.

According to recent studies overdosing with acetaminophine is the number one

cause of acute liver failure today. Hospitals literally see hundreds of people

each year who have unwittingly overdosed with acetaminophine, particularly

infants and young children.

Acetaminophine should never be taken with other pain medications unless a

physician has specifically recommended the combination. Some people are unaware

that prescription medicines often contain acetaminophine; they are under the

impression that it is only found in non-prescription medicines. Being unaware,

they take a prescription medication, containing acetaminophine, along with

Tylenol or another over-the-counter drug containing acetaminophine, which can

then cause overdose.

Many people suffer from migraines, and although Tylenol and other acetaminophine

products may give some relief, preventative medications for migraines could be

dangerous when coupled with acetaminophine. Check with your doctor, if you're

taking preventative migraine medications, before taking any Tylenol, Sinutab, or

similar products.

Children are especially prone to acetaminophine dangers. That's because when

children are sick unaware parents may give them children's Tylenol in addition

to a sore throat medication or another medicine that may also contain

acetaminophine. The combination of two doses, especially several times in the

same day, can be extremely dangerous. Liver damage is one of the most severe

dangers of taking too much acetaminophine.

Adults can also develop liver damage after taking acetaminophine too often. If

you're taking the medication every 4 hours, more than one or two days a week,

check with your physician to see if you are in danger of developing liver

problems. Alcohol can add to the dangers of liver problems while taking

acetaminophine.

Overdose symptoms may be delayed for 12 hours or even longer. Overdose can cause

death within a few days but can usually be successfully treated if treatment is

sought within a few hours. Symptoms usually include severe perspiring,

convulsions, abdominal pain, diarrhea, upset stomach, appetite loss, nausea,

vomiting, irritability or even coma.

The hospital will likely ask the name of the product that was taken, how much

was consumed and at what time the doses were administered. If possible, take all

medication containers along with you to the emergency room. Treatment can

include activated charcoal or a laxative and blood levels will likely be

observed.

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Would someone direct me to a site setting out the dangers of Tylenol,

please? Obie.

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  • 2 weeks later...

I was told never to take more hen 2000mg a day and I've heard that from many other people too. It seems that 4g is quite accessive. I'm glad to hear that your sides are manageable though, that is terrific especially at week 11. I hope that it continues as such for you through the rest of treatment. :)

Ally

On 11/4/06, Lee <leecuate@...> wrote:

My doctor told me that I could take 2 Tylenol 4 times a day (4000mg). I have tried Advil but it doesn't help me much with headaches. I am on week 11 of tx and haven't missed a day of work. I have never had

depression and am not taking any anti-depressants. So far the side effects have been manageable, but I do notice that I loose patience with people easily. I drink at least 2 gallons of water a day, including 2 quarts of gatorade and 1 liter of pedialyte. I take AmbienCR each night and it works great for me. Since I am drinking so much liquid I have to get up to pee a couple of times a night, with the AmbienCR I go right back to sleep. I was just wondering if it was

safe to take 8 Tylenol a day. I have had no hepC symptoms and little liver damage.Lee in AZ

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