Guest guest Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 I bought a prototypical device and the raw materials for about $400 altogether. I'm not sure if the developer has made any more. The product is intended as a plant food, so what you found might have been this product. The product has to be cultured for 24 hours. The process is very messy. The solution must be agitated VERY slowly with a mineral stone that aids in the culturation. After the 24 hours, the result is a couple gallons of the chitinase product, which based on my tests melted fiber critters under my microscope for four days before spoiling. It must be refrigerated. The product is not intended for this use, however it did produce the result I described. The developer does not claim it will do what it did for me. This started when I mentioned to someone on here who used the product on their plants that I had used a protease and that eroded the exoskeleton of one of my original parasites, but did not kill them and certainly did not destroy the stylus, the bevel tipped, sometimes short and straight, sometimes long and flexible, clear straw like appendage that originated from the belly of most every critter I removed from my body after it bit me. The person knew the maker of the product slightly and told him we needed to be able to experiment with making smaller quantities. His existing machines were larger and quite expensive. Surprisingly, he obliged by creating two prototypes, and sold them to this other person and to me. It was very nice of him to go to the expense and take the time to do it. I tried every solvent I could think of to dissolve the stylus. I figured a parasite that cannot feed on me is a dead parasite, so I went after that multipurpose tool (straw, piercing tool, snorkel, reverse soaking hose). I even tried lacquer thinner. I never found anything that would dissolve the stylus. But I did find some products that had an effect on the critter. Hollyjane has reported her experiments here. The products I had the best effects with follow: Borax and water - this got them moving so I could find out if they were alive or dead. This is what I used when I wanted to photograph them. It did not kill them. It would slow them to a stop, but they were still at least barely alive. I have used so much borax and later boric acid that if that were going to rid my body of them, the parasites would have left me long ago. Didn't happen. But it helps. Betadine (povidone iodine) killed them under the microscope, but using it extensively did not get rid of them. I think it was Simple Green and not Kleen Green that actually dissolved the critters. The chitinase product, once I bought the cooker, the raw materials, took the time, and made a mess, also dissolved them. It is organic and perishable It requires refrigeration as it is organic and perishable. As plant food, it is useful to the plants for three days. For me, it destroyed every fiber critter I applied it them. So did this stuff, and it did it thoroughly for four days. The fifth days results were less satisfactory. I didn't really push this because the exodus of the gelatinous squares had a mixed result and did not eradicate the critters. Before I used this, I never had lesions. I never had them because (I think)-- My feverish search for and lucky discovery of a combination of products I used on my skin and clothes that I was able to live with day in and day out, that reduced biting and movement to a minimum. Isolating the washing of my scalp from that of the rest of my body. Preventing the critters from establishing in the areas of my body where they would naturally land due to shedding (my forearms and hands, tops of legs, tops of feet) Covering up with long sleeves and pants; leather dress boots at work and tall rubber boots at home; and disposable gloves when working with possibly contaminated materials, my pets, and my computer. Not long after the exodus of the gelatinous squares, lesions began erupting - for the first time in all the years I have had this disease - from the inside of my skin. The parasites would puncture a blood vessel, either on the surface, cutting a meandering path like cutworms on plants in the garden, or below the surface. The surface lesions gave little if any warning before erupting and caused bloody messes on my clothing at work and elsewhere. Those below the surface looked like huge nasty bruises or the liver spots on my mother's arm, except they too happened fast. This suggests the possibility that the gelatinous squares, whether or not they were biofilm, might have been food for the parasites. I imagined fertile bottomlands filled with crops suddenly destroyed, leaving a starving populace forced to use other means to feed itself. That, in my case, is why I think I suddenly began developing these inside - out lesions. These lesions, the spontaneous profuse bleeding, continued daily until the first day after I used F-5, and all I did was mix a teaspoon of it in the little spray bottle Gordon sent me with the pound jar of F-5 I had bought. Until then, I had no backup plan to offer. It is no good to announce a product that will eliminate the biofilm if the physical evidence and suffering increase. Some who use the F-5 get worse lesions in the short run. F-6 is better in that regard. However, I think getting rid of that biofilm did something to my body that caused my body to go the other way. I might also have had a better immediate effect due to other protocols I have used such as the MMS (internally) for a couple of months, neem oil and olive leaf oil (internally and externally), seabuckthorn oil, roach prufe, hydrogen peroxide, iodine, and benzoyl peroxide, the most effective external of all of these for me. And that might have depended on the order, quantity, duration, or other factors I cannot guess. This is not an advertisement for Gordon or for my planned store (if I ever make time to build it). It is what my reasoning was, no more. I felt like the immediate benefit of my chitinase use was more than offset by the onset of the lesions. That is why I shut up about the chitinase once that started happening. There is another chitinase that I have tried. I didn't stick with it due to the difficulty in obtaining it: your doctor has to provide the company that makes it with paperwork stating that he or she approves your using it. That alone was scary. I only used it internally but might experiment by breaking open some capsules - I have thought about mixing the powder in the capsules with some F-6 in a solution. There is some c For anyone who wants to try this chitinase, and is willing to jump through the required hoops, the name of it is Interfase Plus, and it is made by Klaire Labs. If you are interested in ordering the chitinase cooker and raw materials, you can email me at morjella@... and I will send your contact information to the inventor. I am still using F-6 internally and externally (one capsule daily) plus Ivermectin horse paste in the recommended amount for my weight every three days. I took my fourth or fifth dose of the Ivermectin last night and today I have shed several black worm casings. I have not seen worm casings come out of me since I was doing heavy experimenting with everything I could find to put on my skin. Plus, even with my oils and such, I've had an awful lot of movement today, and a few bites. What does it mean? I hope it means I am getting rid of these things. I feel like if I can get rid of them and survive the journey, all of you can, too, if what you have is the same morg I have. kajay From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 9:47 PMSubject: Re: morg, borg, quorum sensing I've looked online; I can only see chitinase for agricultural use & rather expensive too. Please will you tell us how to make it? Regards Krys On 19 August 2011 18:56, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote: It is a long story, it takes 24 hours and a special "cooker" to make it. Worth it, but there has to be a better way. If you google chitinase you might find more out there now. kajay From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:10 PMSubject: Re: morg, borg, quorum sensing I have those now- the gelatinous squares that come out of my skin. I think it's a mold Biofilm. What is the chitinase product you use in the shower? Thanks, Aandraya On Aug 18, 2011, at 9:56 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote: You know, I hadn't been following the research since I determined I was going to fight the good fight but grit my teeth and live my life no matter if something was biting me painfully while I studied with friends or skyped with other students or accepted invitations to people's homes knowing I would never go as long as I have this...(long sentence, I know!) But I had formed a sort of nebulous theory about how the quorum sensing worked. I am really shocked now that I have actually googled quorum sensing, to find out that, while I wasn't describing it exactly the same way, and while I didn't understand that the biofilm consisted of bacteria (remember when I reported that I used the chitinase in the shower and all those beige, gelatinous, floppy, almost flat squares came out of my whole body, hundreds of them, everywhere! and the red dots in the intersections of all the diamond pattern in my skin went away), I really thought that I had dissolved something like ceiling tile, that the gelatinous tiles were either woven together with or suspended in like so many hammocks, like Marine Corps ripstop if the nylon threads woven in a 1/4" grid throughout the fabric were removed, leaving the rest of the fabric loose, unattached. I thought the gelatinous squares, which I am guessing might be the biofilm, were either * Food, a crop created by the morgellons like bees do honey in a hive, with the chitin grid being the equivalent of the honeycomb but spread out under the skin of my entire body, or they were * A medium in which baby morgs were nurtured, fed, tended by the teardrop-shaped morgellons that I think are the nurses. That was part of my colony theory: the teardrops are nurses; globular morg warriors (remember blue boy?); and cigar-shaped ones born to be queens. Lots and lots of queens. There were lots of holes in all my theories, of course, but they are theories, and thus fluid. After a friend mentioned quorum sensing, I thought maybe now if I went looking for it I could find some information about it. I thought the term referred to communication among the morg (like the Borg on Star Trek), and I thought this communication occurred in one of these ways: 1. The gelatinous material (possibly the same thing as what is referred to as biofilm) is highly conductive (I have no idea if this is the case) 2. The gelatinous material transmitted vibrations like radio waves (again, I have not been researching this; it is just a theory) Then I read Bonnie Bassler's Nova interview. It happened four years ago. I did not yet know the term "quorum sensing" and didn't run across it till I talked to Gordon (F-5, F-6) on the phone. I now believe I am going to get well. I'm not there yet. But I believe I might just outlive the bas___ds. -- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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