Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?

August 22, 2011

The test at IGenix was not very expensive, a little over $100, but getting a doctor who will send you to the lab or have their lab do the work is the most expensive and the hardest part. The herb Teasel helps a lot with Lyme disease symptoms we found. My husband takes Teasel every day. It really helps keep the Lyme symptoms at bay. I agree with your other comments Aandraya about testing.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:40:43 AMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?

Jay-Lyme is a clinical diagnosis. If you've had it for a long time the tests will show up negative until you start to treat. That's why a Lyme doc can get your symptoms, test through Igenix if you can afford it, or do a provocation test. You can try a product called Banderol- can't think of the company right now. Take a few drops for a week or so. If you have Lyme you'll get a Herxheimer effect(die-off effect from the bacteria being attacked) and you will feel fluish. That will almost for sure happen if you have Lyme. Don't waste your money on a non Lyme literate doctor, they don't know anything about chronic Lyme and they'll give you the ELISA test which is pretty much useless.AandrayaOn Aug 22, 2011, at 11:33 AM, s.jay8383 wrote: Thanks for the further info. I am crushing the garlic for the allicin... I will get tested for Lyme ASAP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even a little? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't > > > > > want to > > > > > > > > > make it > > > > > > > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a > > nest 20 > > > > > feet up > > > > > > > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about > > > > > (although I > > > > > > > > > can't > > > > > > > > > > > be certain that is the "source." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

August 22, 2011

I went through the twitching too and my LLD told me to make sure I'm getting sufficient calcium, magnesium and potassium because I was getting leg cramping too. Terrible in the middle of the night. I'm not a milk drinker, but I do have plain yogurt daily. Vitamin D is essential for absorption of calcium; you can take that in a supplement or make sure you get a lot of sun.From: "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:33:33 AMSubject: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?

Thanks for the further info.

I am crushing the garlic for the allicin...

I will get tested for Lyme ASAP.

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August 22, 2011

After 20+ years with Lyme my Igenix test came back CDC negative, as is the case with many. Even the CDC says that Lyme is a clinical diagnosis and that tests are for surveillance. There are so many different strains of Lyme and Bartonella, Fry labs uses direct microscopy because there are so many strains that they don't even have tests for. A good Lyme doctor knows the symptoms of Lyme and coinfections. The Morgellons symptoms are a combination of Bartonella and fungal infections, and then insect/mites added on top of that- it's just a manifestation of the chronic infections in the body. When I started to get the weird skin symptoms and collembola in my living environment I was lucky to find a doc who knew what was going on. I had no knowledge of Lyme disease or Bart at that time. I was diagnosed 2 yrs ago in Oct. and it's been a loooong road.AandrayaOn Aug 22, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Goldstein@... wrote: The test at IGenix was not very expensive, a little over $100, but getting a doctor who will send you to the lab or have their lab do the work is the most expensive and the hardest part. The herb Teasel helps a lot with Lyme disease symptoms we found. My husband takes Teasel every day. It really helps keep the Lyme symptoms at bay. I agree with your other comments Aandraya about testing.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:40:43 AMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens? Jay-Lyme is a clinical diagnosis. If you've had it for a long time the tests will show up negative until you start to treat. That's why a Lyme doc can get your symptoms, test through Igenix if you can afford it, or do a provocation test. You can try a product called Banderol- can't think of the company right now. Take a few drops for a week or so. If you have Lyme you'll get a Herxheimer effect(die-off effect from the bacteria being attacked) and you will feel fluish. That will almost for sure happen if you have Lyme. Don't waste your money on a non Lyme literate doctor, they don't know anything about chronic Lyme and they'll give you the ELISA test which is pretty much useless.AandrayaOn Aug 22, 2011, at 11:33 AM, s.jay8383 wrote: Thanks for the further info. I am crushing the garlic for the allicin... I will get tested for Lyme ASAP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even a little? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't > > > > > want to > > > > > > > > > make it > > > > > > > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a > > nest 20 > > > > > feet up > > > > > > > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about > > > > > (although I > > > > > > > > > can't > > > > > > > > > > > be certain that is the "source." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

August 22, 2011

I agree, magnesium and Vit. D is important, the Lyme spirochetes use a lot of it up. Still, until you get the chronic infections down the neurological symptoms are going to be there.AandrayaOn Aug 22, 2011, at 11:49 AM, Goldstein@... wrote: I went through the twitching too and my LLD told me to make sure I'm getting sufficient calcium, magnesium and potassium because I was getting leg cramping too. Terrible in the middle of the night. I'm not a milk drinker, but I do have plain yogurt daily. Vitamin D is essential for absorption of calcium; you can take that in a supplement or make sure you get a lot of sun.From: "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:33:33 AMSubject: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens? Thanks for the further info. I am crushing the garlic for the allicin... I will get tested for Lyme ASAP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even a little? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't > > > > > want to > > > > > > > > > make it > > > > > > > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a > > nest 20 > > > > > feet up > > > > > > > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about > > > > > (although I > > > > > > > > > can't > > > > > > > > > > > be certain that is the "source." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

August 22, 2011

Here's the deal Jay. 1 cup of Lysol complete in a gallon of water in a garden sprayer will kill the fungus in the car. However, 2 things can re infect it. 1. The spores are not affected by the lysol, so spraying a lot helps. 2. If the spores are still coming off your body, you are reinfecting it, too. I clean the car with it about every 6 weeks now as my body is not letting of spores (I think) anymore. At the height of this, I took my floor mats and hooked them on the wall at the car wash and soaked them in Lysol. 30 minutes later, I rinsed them, let them dry, and that was the big turning point in my car. Do not use the Lysol disinfectant in a spray can as that will not do anything much.

Thanks for the comment. We all need love and light now.

Love and light,

From: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>Subject: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?bird mites Date: Monday, August 22, 2011, 2:24 AM

Thanks !Any idea how to eliminate fungus from a vehicle?I already did the Lysol thing several times...P.S. I like your sign off > > > > > > > >> > > >

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August 23, 2011

The Lysol Complete Clean will be more effective at killing mould than vinegar. Lysol Complete Clean, & the Lysol Original diluting formula, have different ingredients. Complete clean contains the anti-fungal, anti bacterial benzalkonium chloride (benzalkonium chloride is a shortened name the product has has the full chemical name on the bottle); the original, diluting kind, contains cresols but not benzalkonium chloride.

I think benzalkonium cloride damages the exo skeleton of mites but I assume that would only happen if the solution came into contact with the mite; I doubt it would affect mites once dry.

On 22 August 2011 21:17, s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Great information.

I actually did spray the interior with the Lysol with uncertain results...

Do you know what the difference is between that and the concentrate you mix with water?

Also, I was reading that white vinegar will also kill the mold in a vehicle...and that taking baths in 8 ounces of ammonia will kill the mold on/in the body.

Any thoughts about those two products for this purpose?

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> > > > > > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't

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> > > > > > > > make it

> > > > > > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a nest 20

> > > > feet up

> > > > > > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about

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I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

August 23, 2011

Thanks for the info on Complete Clean. I had just sprayed my shower for mold with bleach and it is back already (mold)... so will try the Lysol Complete Clean which I purchased recently. Maybe MSM spray would work too? does anyone know?From: "Krys Brennand" <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:43:54 AMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?

The Lysol Complete Clean will be more effective at killing mould than vinegar. Lysol Complete Clean, & the Lysol Original diluting formula, have different ingredients. Complete clean contains the anti-fungal, anti bacterial benzalkonium chloride (benzalkonium chloride is a shortened name the product has has the full chemical name on the bottle); the original, diluting kind, contains cresols but not benzalkonium chloride.

I think benzalkonium cloride damages the exo skeleton of mites but I assume that would only happen if the solution came into contact with the mite; I doubt it would affect mites once dry.

On 22 August 2011 21:17, s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Great information.

I actually did spray the interior with the Lysol with uncertain results...

Do you know what the difference is between that and the concentrate you mix with water?

Also, I was reading that white vinegar will also kill the mold in a vehicle...and that taking baths in 8 ounces of ammonia will kill the mold on/in the body.

Any thoughts about those two products for this purpose?

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> > > > > > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?!

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> > > > > > > > > > Even a little?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't

> > > > want to

> > > > > > > > make it

> > > > > > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a nest 20

> > > > feet up

> > > > > > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about

> > > > (although I

> > > > > > > > can't

> > > > > > > > > > be certain that is the "source."

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> > > > > > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated!

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--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

August 23, 2011

I had understood, correct me if wrong, that garlic, fresh, was the best source of allicin and the processed allicin does not have much allicin in it. I use garlic, but for a while I tried to take it crushed whole which I could do for a few days, but then it got to my stomach. I can use it like Krys suggested, crushed or cut up into pieces with food. That's how I use it, but husband cannot tolerate it unless cooked, which removes most of the good worth of garlic. So sometimes I make eggs in the morning and put fresh garlic in that. Krys, can you suggest a dish or two where you use fresh uncooked garlic?From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:54:02 AMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?

-I've only taking Dr. Zhang's allicin- Herbapro, for a few months and that's all, it's so expensive to take it at the necessary dosage. I do think that Allicin is easier on the stomach than pure raw garlic. I tried raw garlic once and it made me throw up.AandrayaOn Aug 22, 2011, at 7:18 AM, Krys Brennand wrote: ,Have you tried mixing the raw crushed or minced garlic with other things? We have a variety of garlic mixes which we use. KrysOn 22 August 2011 01:00, <Goldstein@...> wrote: My stomach becomes very imbalanced with a lot of garlic. Any suggestions? L.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...> bird mites Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:58:44 PMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens? You need to take allicin to the point that it's oozing out your pores, that's when it will really be effective. People will probably complain because you'll wreak of garlic. That's why most people don't stick with this treatment. You will burp and pee garlic! On Aug 14, 2011, at 9:50 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10594976 Are you always this right?! ;] > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?! > > > > > > > > > > > > Even a little? > > > > > > > > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't want to > > > > make it > > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a nest 20 feet up > > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about (although I > > > > can't > > > > > > be certain that is the "source." > > > > > > > > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who. Rudyard Kipling

August 23, 2011

I agree with this Aandraya, but I believe also that because of the stress on our systems, many nutrients are readily used up with stress, including many minerals and vitamins - we don't eat as well when stressed, things get missed or skipped, our bodies become wreaked with problems, intestinal especially, so absorption of minerals becomes a problem as our bodies take on a more acidic pH which does not allow for correct assimilation of nutrients. Supplementation of minerals is necessary, as well as enzymes (good ones). But the infections do need to be jointly dealt with. It is a MUST. We have to treat the house, whole environment, including bodies inside and out. This is what makes the process so complex.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:33:31 AMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?

Eye twitching is a neurological symptom very typical of tick borne chronic infections because these organisms release biotoxins(neurotoxins) into the system. You may start to experience other subtle twitching feelings as time goes by. A Lyme literate doctor can diagnose any possible infections- Lyme, Bartonella, and Babesia, these infections are endemic now. Many are infected for years and have no idea. It can take 20+ years for the toxins to build up in the system until they start causing more extreme symptoms- including the skin fungus, lesions, debris coming out of the skin, etc. AandrayaOn Aug 21, 2011, at 11:44 PM, Doe wrote: Hi Jay My eye alo twitched rom all this , I think it was stress , I used to think it was the betadine I dumped on my head to stop the lesisons , which worked but is not recommendded by pharmacists , they say iodine is not good for on you in that hyigh of a concentration , .lesions are gone now , that was 5 years ago ,also we had no forums then , none. I could find. as for the car I wash w/ 1 cup borax & 1 cup spic n span & 1 gal o water & drench the cushion , carpet what ever, then wet vac & dry w/ a hair dryer for 12-24 hrs .I rarely get a bit anymore . Praise God !Bye , God bless you ps any itch for me is stopped in 3 mins by this mix , I keep it in my pocket is a small hand sanitizer bottle & apply straight thru my clothes & leave it on : It never satins clothes & never burns . The mix : http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html The mix: 2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster 16 oz peroxide (3%) 32 oz water. mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide apply top of head to toe , try to keep out of the eye ball .... For eye I wet skin , close eyes & apply betadine slowly & carefully to the lid a brow , leave on for 5 mins & risne off well , it kills the bug in 10 mins .. for realstubborn areas I upgrade to 8 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster 8 oz peroxide (3%) 8oz water. And apply God bless you Jay , Bill On Sun Aug 21st, 2011 10:40 PM EDT s.jay8383 wrote: >Oh, also wanted to add that my left eye has been intermittently twitching for the first time in my life...since this started... > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?! >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Even a little? >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't >> > > want to >> > > > > > > make it >> > > > > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a nest 20 >> > > feet up >> > > > > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about >> > > (although I >> > > > > > > can't >> > > > > > > > > be certain that is the "source." >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated! >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >

August 23, 2011

I think you are entirely correct. L.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:53:59 AMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?

After 20+ years with Lyme my Igenix test came back CDC negative, as is the case with many. Even the CDC says that Lyme is a clinical diagnosis and that tests are for surveillance. There are so many different strains of Lyme and Bartonella, Fry labs uses direct microscopy because there are so many strains that they don't even have tests for. A good Lyme doctor knows the symptoms of Lyme and coinfections. The Morgellons symptoms are a combination of Bartonella and fungal infections, and then insect/mites added on top of that- it's just a manifestation of the chronic infections in the body. When I started to get the weird skin symptoms and collembola in my living environment I was lucky to find a doc who knew what was going on. I had no knowledge of Lyme disease or Bart at that time. I was diagnosed 2 yrs ago in Oct. and it's been a loooong road.AandrayaOn Aug 22, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Goldstein@... wrote: The test at IGenix was not very expensive, a little over $100, but getting a doctor who will send you to the lab or have their lab do the work is the most expensive and the hardest part. The herb Teasel helps a lot with Lyme disease symptoms we found. My husband takes Teasel every day. It really helps keep the Lyme symptoms at bay. I agree with your other comments Aandraya about testing.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:40:43 AMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens? Jay-Lyme is a clinical diagnosis. If you've had it for a long time the tests will show up negative until you start to treat. That's why a Lyme doc can get your symptoms, test through Igenix if you can afford it, or do a provocation test. You can try a product called Banderol- can't think of the company right now. Take a few drops for a week or so. If you have Lyme you'll get a Herxheimer effect(die-off effect from the bacteria being attacked) and you will feel fluish. That will almost for sure happen if you have Lyme. Don't waste your money on a non Lyme literate doctor, they don't know anything about chronic Lyme and they'll give you the ELISA test which is pretty much useless.AandrayaOn Aug 22, 2011, at 11:33 AM, s.jay8383 wrote: Thanks for the further info. I am crushing the garlic for the allicin... I will get tested for Lyme ASAP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even a little? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't > > > > > want to > > > > > > > > > make it > > > > > > > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a > > nest 20 > > > > > feet up > > > > > > > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about > > > > > (although I > > > > > > > > > can't > > > > > > > > > > > be certain that is the "source." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

August 23, 2011

Hmmmm, I didn't know Lyme spiros used up a lot of Vit. D and magnesium. Interesting. L.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:55:30 AMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?

I agree, magnesium and Vit. D is important, the Lyme spirochetes use a lot of it up. Still, until you get the chronic infections down the neurological symptoms are going to be there.AandrayaOn Aug 22, 2011, at 11:49 AM, Goldstein@... wrote: I went through the twitching too and my LLD told me to make sure I'm getting sufficient calcium, magnesium and potassium because I was getting leg cramping too. Terrible in the middle of the night. I'm not a milk drinker, but I do have plain yogurt daily. Vitamin D is essential for absorption of calcium; you can take that in a supplement or make sure you get a lot of sun.From: "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:33:33 AMSubject: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens? Thanks for the further info. I am crushing the garlic for the allicin... I will get tested for Lyme ASAP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even a little? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't > > > > > want to > > > > > > > > > make it > > > > > > > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a > > nest 20 > > > > > feet up > > > > > > > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about > > > > > (although I > > > > > > > > > can't > > > > > > > > > > > be certain that is the "source." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

August 23, 2011

For treating ailments, if we don't wan to munch on whole cloves we mince it & add various things to make it more palatable. My daughter is the creative person who dreams up this type of thing. One of her favourites for just about any ailments is minced garlic, minced raw mushrooms, fresh ground black pepper, olive oil & , I think, lemon juice, but I could be wrong about the lemon.

We do however, eat a good deal of garlic, raw & cooked, in our food as a matter of course. The obvious thing that springs to mind is salads we use lots of raw garlic in salads. We do our own salads, don't use bottle dressings. We never add sugar to salads, rarely ever add fruit, & had never heard of the dressings used in US prior to coming here, so what we make as " salad " might not be familiar. Hummus (yum) has lots of raw garlic (again we make our own). Various bean dips are best with crushed garlic. After cooking pasta, toss it in olive oil with a few cloves of raw crushed garlic. A couple of cloves of raw crushed garlic added to pasta sauces after cooking, in addition to the garlic cooked in the sauce, gives a nice bite.

Hope this gives a few ideas; I can do recipes if you like. :-)All the bestKrysOn 23 August 2011 13:07, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

I had understood, correct me if wrong, that garlic, fresh, was the best source of allicin and the processed allicin does not have much allicin in it. I use garlic, but for a while I tried to take it crushed whole which I could do for a few days, but then it got to my stomach. I can use it like Krys suggested, crushed or cut up into pieces with food. That's how I use it, but husband cannot tolerate it unless cooked, which removes most of the good worth of garlic. So sometimes I make eggs in the morning and put fresh garlic in that.

Krys, can you suggest a dish or two where you use fresh uncooked garlic?From: " Aandraya Da Silva " <aandraya@...>

bird mites Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:54:02 AMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?

-I've only taking Dr. Zhang's allicin- Herbapro, for a few months and that's all, it's so expensive to take it at the necessary dosage. I do think that Allicin is easier on the stomach than pure raw garlic. I tried raw garlic once and it made me throw up.

AandrayaOn Aug 22, 2011, at 7:18 AM, Krys Brennand wrote: ,Have you tried mixing the raw crushed or minced garlic with other things? We have a variety of garlic mixes which we use.

KrysOn 22 August 2011 01:00, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

My stomach becomes very imbalanced with a lot of garlic. Any suggestions? L.

From: " Aandraya " <aandraya@...> bird mites

Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:58:44 PMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens? You need to take allicin to the point that it's oozing out your pores, that's when it will really be effective. People will probably complain because you'll wreak of garlic. That's why most people don't stick with this treatment. You will burp and pee garlic!

On Aug 14, 2011, at 9:50 PM, " s.jay8383 " <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10594976 Are you always this right?! ;]

> > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?! > > > > > > > > > > > > Even a little? > > > > > >

> > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't want to > > > > make it > > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a nest 20 feet up

> > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about (although I > > > > can't > > > > > > be certain that is the " source. " > > > > > >

> > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > >

-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who. Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

August 23, 2011

Wow, thanks Krys. I've always purchased my hummus, but maybe I should try your method. Let me know what that might be. Probably fairly simple, right? I'm trying to get my pictures loaded from my trip, but am having lots of trouble uploading them, except on Facebook, where they seem to load easily. I have a new computer (iMac), but I had this problem with the old PC I had before the iMAC. Not sure what to do next. Am sure I am doing something wrong. My bro requested pictures too, but he is not on Facebook and never will be! Maybe I'll call Apple - they can help with some things.From: "Krys Brennand" <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:49:09 AMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?

For treating ailments, if we don't wan to munch on whole cloves we mince it & add various things to make it more palatable. My daughter is the creative person who dreams up this type of thing. One of her favourites for just about any ailments is minced garlic, minced raw mushrooms, fresh ground black pepper, olive oil & , I think, lemon juice, but I could be wrong about the lemon.

We do however, eat a good deal of garlic, raw & cooked, in our food as a matter of course. The obvious thing that springs to mind is salads we use lots of raw garlic in salads. We do our own salads, don't use bottle dressings. We never add sugar to salads, rarely ever add fruit, & had never heard of the dressings used in US prior to coming here, so what we make as "salad" might not be familiar. Hummus (yum) has lots of raw garlic (again we make our own). Various bean dips are best with crushed garlic. After cooking pasta, toss it in olive oil with a few cloves of raw crushed garlic. A couple of cloves of raw crushed garlic added to pasta sauces after cooking, in addition to the garlic cooked in the sauce, gives a nice bite.

Hope this gives a few ideas; I can do recipes if you like. :-)All the bestKrysOn 23 August 2011 13:07, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

I had understood, correct me if wrong, that garlic, fresh, was the best source of allicin and the processed allicin does not have much allicin in it. I use garlic, but for a while I tried to take it crushed whole which I could do for a few days, but then it got to my stomach. I can use it like Krys suggested, crushed or cut up into pieces with food. That's how I use it, but husband cannot tolerate it unless cooked, which removes most of the good worth of garlic. So sometimes I make eggs in the morning and put fresh garlic in that.

Krys, can you suggest a dish or two where you use fresh uncooked garlic?From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>

bird mites Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:54:02 AMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?

-I've only taking Dr. Zhang's allicin- Herbapro, for a few months and that's all, it's so expensive to take it at the necessary dosage. I do think that Allicin is easier on the stomach than pure raw garlic. I tried raw garlic once and it made me throw up.

AandrayaOn Aug 22, 2011, at 7:18 AM, Krys Brennand wrote: ,Have you tried mixing the raw crushed or minced garlic with other things? We have a variety of garlic mixes which we use.

KrysOn 22 August 2011 01:00, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

My stomach becomes very imbalanced with a lot of garlic. Any suggestions? L.

From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...> bird mites

Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:58:44 PMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens? You need to take allicin to the point that it's oozing out your pores, that's when it will really be effective. People will probably complain because you'll wreak of garlic. That's why most people don't stick with this treatment. You will burp and pee garlic!

On Aug 14, 2011, at 9:50 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10594976 Are you always this right?! ;]

> > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?! > > > > > > > > > > > > Even a little? > > > > > >

> > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't want to > > > > make it > > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a nest 20 feet up

> > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about (although I > > > > can't > > > > > > be certain that is the "source." > > > > > >

> > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > >

-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who. Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

August 23, 2011

Hi , Yes, hummus is very simple. We make ours to taste so it is hard to be precise about quantities. Boil about half kg or about 1lb of chick peas until soft. Drain, & save the water. Mash the chick peas (or use a hand blender) gradually adding the water to aid mashing; add about 2 or 3 large dollops of tahini (sesame paste), the other the ingredients are more or less added to taste so you'll need to experiment. Several cloves of garlic crushed, a large dash of olive oil, fresh lemon juice, salt, fresh ground black pepper, oh & some people add a bit of paprika. Adjust consistency adding the chick pea water as desired, taste & adjust other ingredients gradually to taste. In Greece the consistency made is usually reasonably loose but some people like their hummus quite firm; I like fresh hummus any way it comes. ;-P

Good luckKrysOn 23 August 2011 13:55, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Wow, thanks Krys. I've always purchased my hummus, but maybe I should try your method. Let me know what that might be. Probably fairly simple, right? I'm trying to get my pictures loaded from my trip, but am having lots of trouble uploading them, except on Facebook, where they seem to load easily. I have a new computer (iMac), but I had this problem with the old PC I had before the iMAC. Not sure what to do next. Am sure I am doing something wrong. My bro requested pictures too, but he is not on Facebook and never will be! Maybe I'll call Apple - they can help with some things.

From: " Krys Brennand " <krys109uk@...>bird mites

Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:49:09 AMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?