Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?

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Fresh air can be a good thing too!On Aug 14, 2011, at 6:13 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

I'm working on those things!

Just trying to get some fresh air too

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I think Allicin is potent, but were talking huge dosis for months. I don't know how much allicin is in a clove of garlic, but I imagine it is pretty potent. My doc had me taking Zhang's garlic along with abx and antifungals. You are most definitely dealing with multi-systemic infections and it's a long road to recovery. AandrayaOn Aug 14, 2011, at 7:10 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

I wanted to clarify that putting this routine into action is all but eliminating the phantom granules from appearing...as well as what seem to be phantom itches due to the potential neurological issue related to the bacteria....

and when I stop the routine they begin in in full force...

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Jay-A lot of the creepy crawlie sensation is from neurotoxins released from bacteria/fungi/parasites. Treat those and it will resolve.On Aug 14, 2011, at 6:54 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Aandraya,

In regards to the bacterial infection,

I wanted to ask you a question.

I have started eating 2-3 crushed cloves of garlic per day (for the allicin) as well as taking a bath with 1 cup of Apple Cider Vinegar every other day.

I notice that if I stop this routine for even a day or two...the mysterious white granules come back and begin appearing on my skin again.

Do you think this means that I am heading in the right direction with the baths and the garlic? Or that I am simply masking a problem and not doing enough?

I do still intend to order the one of the Allicin supplements you had mentioned when the funds are available.

Thanks again for your thoughts - they are appreciated.

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Actually, high dose Allicin is broad spectrum antimicrobial. You should cut out sugar and anything that is hard on the immune system- alcohol, caffeine, etc.On Aug 14, 2011, at 8:55 PM, s.jay8383 wrote: Well at least I am starting to treat the bacteria. How do I treat the fungi and parasites? P.S. I am also eating a cup of yogurt per day to hopefully replace the "bad" bacteria... > > > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?! > > > > > > > > Even a little? > > > > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't want to > > make it > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a nest 20 feet up > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about (although I > > can't > > > > be certain that is the "source." > > > > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Lol... I've been dealing with this for 2 yrs. I think I've seen it allOn Aug 14, 2011, at 9:50 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10594976

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You need to take allicin to the point that it's oozing out your pores, that's when it will really be effective. People will probably complain because you'll wreak of garlic. That's why most people don't stick with this treatment. You will burp and pee garlic!On Aug 14, 2011, at 9:50 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10594976

Are you always this right?!

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BTW, I exect bird mites would easily get through screens on wondows.On 14 August 2011 22:58, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

 

You need to take allicin to the point that it's oozing out your pores, that's when it will really be effective.  People will probably complain because you'll wreak of garlic.  That's why most people don't stick with this treatment.  You will burp and pee garlic!

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10594976

Are you always this right?!

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-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

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Jay-I get it, it IS confusing and complex. Do you have headaches? Are you having problems with memory? Feeling disoriented? Get lost going to places you are very familiar with? Anxiety or depression? Fatigue? Insomnia? Skin lesions that don't heal? Hypersensitive skin? Sensitivity to light? Do your feet hurt? Any other kind of rashes? Veins that appear larger, darker and close to the skin? Aandraya On Aug 19, 2011, at 7:19 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Aandraya,

I'm starting to get so confused.

All I know for sure (apart from the bird mites) is that I used to have these white granules and black specks coming off of me by the dozens - specifically at night AND especially when sweating.

I also know for sure that I tested positive for abnormal amounts of internal bacteria.

However, since taking the garlic daily...it has mostly subsided.

When I stop for a day (or even sometimes anyway) they start to reappear but it is 1/10 what it used to be.

Are these from fungus, bacteria, or parasites or all of the above?

Could upping the garlic and making sure to take it daily ultimately resolve this if I get rid of the mites in the environment?

On the curezone site one poster said these are parasites...UGH.

My immune system is starting to take a hit..

Any idea how I can narrow it down?

Thanks again for any insight as I am at my wits end tonight with this.

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I forgot, joint pain? On Aug 19, 2011, at 10:28 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Jay-I get it, it IS confusing and complex. Do you have headaches? Are you having problems with memory? Feeling disoriented? Get lost going to places you are very familiar with? Anxiety or depression? Fatigue? Insomnia? Skin lesions that don't heal? Hypersensitive skin? Sensitivity to light? Do your feet hurt? Any other kind of rashes? Veins that appear larger, darker and close to the skin? Aandraya On Aug 19, 2011, at 7:19 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Aandraya,

I'm starting to get so confused.

All I know for sure (apart from the bird mites) is that I used to have these white granules and black specks coming off of me by the dozens - specifically at night AND especially when sweating.

I also know for sure that I tested positive for abnormal amounts of internal bacteria.

However, since taking the garlic daily...it has mostly subsided.

When I stop for a day (or even sometimes anyway) they start to reappear but it is 1/10 what it used to be.

Are these from fungus, bacteria, or parasites or all of the above?

Could upping the garlic and making sure to take it daily ultimately resolve this if I get rid of the mites in the environment?

On the curezone site one poster said these are parasites...UGH.

My immune system is starting to take a hit..

Any idea how I can narrow it down?

Thanks again for any insight as I am at my wits end tonight with this.

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Hi s.jay8383

Upping the garlic to3000mg per day did seem to help me , but I did stop. & used

sulfur creme, & t 10 perc & 90 per hand creme , that helped a lot but is messy .

Coconut oil 2 tbls in the bath tub & soak for 10 mins helps a lot to , seems

the bug can't crawl well when it is on , or bite very deep , it is excellent ,

it also works wonders in the environment in a spray 2 tbls per 48 oz in a windex

bottle or better yet a 48 oz sprayer from Ace hardware , very handy for stopping

any intruders . I add 1/3 cup borax to it too sometimes to poison the bug . , it

shoots a super fine mist which makes no drips down the wall or cieling , but a

tri-jet fogger from www.cedarcide.org ( or .com I forget ) saves a lot of time &

trouble with 1 cup borax , 1 cup windex & 1.5 gal of hor hot water & strir in

the borax with a knife handle for 15 seconds then turn on the fogger & let it

coat everything like a dense london fog you can't see thru ( about 15 mins on

high for a 14X 16 bdrm) , that will stop a bug . Adding 1 cup epsom really stops

them faster but rusts all metal bad & dries on the drywall & then shrinks &

snatches all the

paint off. , huge mess , but less messy than burning the house down . .........

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Epsom 1 cup per 3 -7 cups of water is a huge weapon on this bug , exceelnt for

tile & inside the fridge ..I use it daily in my car for 2 years , it stopped

them , it make the apolstry hard as a rock supporting no life in the fabric &

curtains in the house ... I loved it , it is non poisonous

GOD BLESS YOU s.jay8383,

Bill

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>Aandraya,

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>All I know for sure (apart from the bird mites) is that I used to have these

white granules and black specks coming off of me by the dozens - specifically at

night AND especially when sweating.

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>I also know for sure that I tested positive for abnormal amounts of internal

bacteria.

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>However, since taking the garlic daily...it has mostly subsided.

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>When I stop for a day (or even sometimes anyway) they start to reappear but it

is 1/10 what it used to be.

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>Are these from fungus, bacteria, or parasites or all of the above?

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>Could upping the garlic and making sure to take it daily ultimately resolve

this if I get rid of the mites in the environment?

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>On the curezone site one poster said these are parasites...UGH.

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>My immune system is starting to take a hit..

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>Any idea how I can narrow it down?

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>Thanks again for any insight as I am at my wits end tonight with this.

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my guess is fungus. It loves warm, moist environment. I had my first big break out back when, when I was driving in my car in 98 degree weather for 7 hours.

Love and light,

From: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>Subject: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?bird mites Date: Monday, August 22, 2011, 1:54 AM

Aandraya,I have always had anxiety and depression so hard to tell if there is a change.Likewise, my memory is now what it was but I don't have the rest of those symptoms.Thing is, I have not seen a bird mite in a while but I know I have a bacterial infection of some sort.I thought I was making progress and eliminating this until it got humid again over the last couple days and these white granules started coming out again.Also, today I had to take a long drive in my truck and for the first time in weeks the itch is unbearable.So there is something "awakening" this bacteria when I am in my truck for long distances.Also, in taking, baking soda / epsom / ACV baths, I sometimes find black specks in the tub.So discouraged at the moment b/c this is feeling like it was weeks ago (the itchiness) when I was not sleeping. I have been sleeping so well lately with the garlic, baths, and

daily yogurt routine. Maybe the bacteria is getting used to the garlic?What could be in my truck apart from mites (which I don't see?)Something is affecting me primarily from there and I had eradicated most of whatever it was from my home...Any further insight appreciated as always.Another bad day after a couple weeks of good ones > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?!>

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The black and white specks are fungal, and it's safe to say you've got chronic bacterial infections, one is probably Bartonella- depression and anxiety are classic symptoms. Try Byron White's A-Bart to do a provocation test. It's likely you have Lyme, and probably for many years, the mold exposure makes it active. I found out I had these infections when I saw a doc about the stuff coming out of my skin. Garlic could work, allicin much better- and tons of it for at least a year or more. The fungus comes and goes in cycles, that's why you have periods with fewer symptoms. Your truck- try diatomaceous earth- and shutting it up for a couple months. Epsom salts is a good source of magnesium and good for detox. The baths may calm the itching but won't treat the infections. The best thing you could do for yourself is see an LLMD Lyme literate MD, many know about this condition.Aandraya On Aug 21, 2011, at 8:54 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Aandraya,

I have always had anxiety and depression so hard to tell if there is a change.

Likewise, my memory is now what it was but I don't have the rest of those symptoms.

Thing is, I have not seen a bird mite in a while but I know I have a bacterial infection of some sort.

I thought I was making progress and eliminating this until it got humid again over the last couple days and these white granules started coming out again.

Also, today I had to take a long drive in my truck and for the first time in weeks the itch is unbearable.

So there is something "awakening" this bacteria when I am in my truck for long distances.

Also, in taking, baking soda / epsom / ACV baths, I sometimes find black specks in the tub.

So discouraged at the moment b/c this is feeling like it was weeks ago (the itchiness) when I was not sleeping.

I have been sleeping so well lately with the garlic, baths, and daily yogurt routine.

Maybe the bacteria is getting used to the garlic?

What could be in my truck apart from mites (which I don't see?)

Something is affecting me primarily from there and I had eradicated most of whatever it was from my home...

Any further insight appreciated as always.

Another bad day after a couple weeks of good ones

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Jay- Eye twitching? Lyme Disease! Most with Lyme also have the coinfections Bartonella and Babesia. Long term anxiety, depression-Bart. Memory loss- Lyme and Bart. You're case reminds me of mine when I first got the stuff coming out of my skin, and the biting. Certain insects are attracted to our skin, mine were collembola. You made a good move- the Garlic, yogurt(no sugar), and baths... It is going to take much more than this to completely recover. AandrayaOn Aug 21, 2011, at 9:40 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Oh, also wanted to add that my left eye has been intermittently twitching for the first time in my life...since this started...

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Jay-The eye twitching is due to the biotoxins that certain bacteria produce(Lyme is known to produce many, and they are neurotoxins).You may start to notice other random twitches with time. Also watch for tinnitus, weird "tippy" feeling, some possible loss of visual/spacial accuity. Do you have skin lesions that don't heal?AandrayaOn Aug 21, 2011, at 9:40 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Oh, also wanted to add that my left eye has been intermittently twitching for the first time in my life...since this started...

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I think the pathogens could become resistant to garlic. You need to take a lot and Allicin is much more potent.On Aug 21, 2011, at 9:40 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Oh, also wanted to add that my left eye has been intermittently twitching for the first time in my life...since this started...

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Hi Jay

My eye alo twitched rom all this , I think it was stress , I used to think it

was the betadine I dumped on my head to stop the lesisons , which worked but is

not recommendded by pharmacists , they say iodine is not good for on you in that

hyigh of a concentration , .lesions are gone now , that was 5 years ago ,also

we had no forums then , none. I could find.

as for the car I wash w/ 1 cup borax & 1 cup spic n span & 1 gal o water &

drench the cushion , carpet what ever, then wet vac & dry w/ a hair dryer for

12-24 hrs .I rarely get a bit anymore . Praise God !Bye , God bless you

ps any itch for me is stopped in 3 mins by this mix , I keep it in my pocket is

a small hand sanitizer bottle & apply straight thru my clothes & leave it on :

It never satins clothes & never burns .

The mix :

http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html

The mix:

2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster

16 oz peroxide (3%)

32 oz water.

mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide

apply top of head to toe , try to keep out of the eye ball

..... For eye I wet skin , close eyes & apply betadine slowly & carefully to the

lid a brow , leave on for 5 mins & risne off well , it kills the bug in 10 mins

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for realstubborn areas I upgrade to

8 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster

8 oz peroxide (3%)

8oz water. And apply

God bless you Jay ,

Bill

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>> > > > > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a nest 20

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Hi Jay

My eye alo twitched rom all this , I think it was stress , I used to think it

was the betadine I dumped on my head to stop the lesisons , which worked but is

not recommendded by pharmacists , they say iodine is not good for on you in that

hyigh of a concentration , .lesions are gone now , that was 5 years ago ,also

we had no forums then , none. I could find.

as for the car I wash w/ 1 cup borax & 1 cup spic n span & 1 gal o water &

drench the cushion , carpet what ever, then wet vac & dry w/ a hair dryer for

12-24 hrs .I rarely get a bit anymore . Praise God !Bye , God bless you

ps any itch for me is stopped in 3 mins by this mix , I keep it in my pocket is

a small hand sanitizer bottle & apply straight thru my clothes & leave it on :

It never satins clothes & never burns .

The mix :

http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html

The mix:

2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster

16 oz peroxide (3%)

32 oz water.

mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide

apply top of head to toe , try to keep out of the eye ball

..... For eye I wet skin , close eyes & apply betadine slowly & carefully to the

lid a brow , leave on for 5 mins & risne off well , it kills the bug in 10 mins

...

for realstubborn areas I upgrade to

8 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster

8 oz peroxide (3%)

8oz water. And apply

God bless you Jay ,

Bill

On Sun Aug 21st, 2011 10:40 PM EDT s.jay8383 wrote:

>Oh, also wanted to add that my left eye has been intermittently twitching for

the first time in my life...since this started...

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>> > > > > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?!

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > Even a little?

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>> > > > > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't

>> > > want to

>> > > > > > > make it

>> > > > > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a nest 20

>> > > feet up

>> > > > > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about

>> > > (although I

>> > > > > > > can't

>> > > > > > > > > be certain that is the " source. "

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated!

>> > > > > > > > >

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Great idea Aggi!!!!! I had not thought about that and wondered that myself. From: "Aggi" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:33:38 PMSubject: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?

Duct tape around the frame and window sills usually does the trick

>

> Do you think it would help keep them out at all?!

>

> Even a little?

>

> Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't want to make it any easier for them to get in...and there is a nest 20 feet up almost directly above the window I'm talking about (although I can't be certain that is the "source."

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> As always, any insight appreciated!

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Good info s.Jay. From: "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 7:50:24 PMSubject: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10594976

Are you always this right?!

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> > > > >

> > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Even a little?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't want to

> > > > make it

> > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a nest 20 feet up

> > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about (although I

> > > > can't

> > > > > > be certain that is the "source."

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated!

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My stomach becomes very imbalanced with a lot of garlic. Any suggestions? L.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:58:44 PMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?

You need to take allicin to the point that it's oozing out your pores, that's when it will really be effective. People will probably complain because you'll wreak of garlic. That's why most people don't stick with this treatment. You will burp and pee garlic!On Aug 14, 2011, at 9:50 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10594976

Are you always this right?!

;]

> > > > >

> > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Even a little?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't want to

> > > > make it

> > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a nest 20 feet up

> > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about (although I

> > > > can't

> > > > > > be certain that is the "source."

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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,Have you tried mixing the raw crushed or minced garlic with other things? We have a variety of garlic mixes which we use. KrysOn 22 August 2011 01:00, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

 

My stomach becomes very imbalanced with a lot of garlic.  Any suggestions?  L.From: " Aandraya " <aandraya@...>

bird mites Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:58:44 PMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens?

 

You need to take allicin to the point that it's oozing out your pores, that's when it will really be effective.  People will probably complain because you'll wreak of garlic.  That's why most people don't stick with this treatment.  You will burp and pee garlic!

On Aug 14, 2011, at 9:50 PM, " s.jay8383 " <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10594976

Are you always this right?!

;]

> > > > >

> > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Even a little?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't want to

> > > > make it

> > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a nest 20 feet up

> > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about (although I

> > > > can't

> > > > > > be certain that is the " source. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated!

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I keep six honest serving-men

  (They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

  And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

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-I've only taking Dr. Zhang's allicin- Herbapro, for a few months and that's all, it's so expensive to take it at the necessary dosage. I do think that Allicin is easier on the stomach than pure raw garlic. I tried raw garlic once and it made me throw up.AandrayaOn Aug 22, 2011, at 7:18 AM, Krys Brennand wrote: ,Have you tried mixing the raw crushed or minced garlic with other things? We have a variety of garlic mixes which we use. KrysOn 22 August 2011 01:00, <Goldstein@...> wrote: My stomach becomes very imbalanced with a lot of garlic. Any suggestions? L.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...> bird mites Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:58:44 PMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens? You need to take allicin to the point that it's oozing out your pores, that's when it will really be effective. People will probably complain because you'll wreak of garlic. That's why most people don't stick with this treatment. You will burp and pee garlic! On Aug 14, 2011, at 9:50 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10594976 Are you always this right?! ;] > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?! > > > > > > > > > > > > Even a little? > > > > > > > > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't want to > > > > make it > > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a nest 20 feet up > > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about (although I > > > > can't > > > > > > be certain that is the "source." > > > > > > > > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who. Rudyard Kipling

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Eye twitching is a neurological symptom very typical of tick borne chronic infections because these organisms release biotoxins(neurotoxins) into the system. You may start to experience other subtle twitching feelings as time goes by. A Lyme literate doctor can diagnose any possible infections- Lyme, Bartonella, and Babesia, these infections are endemic now. Many are infected for years and have no idea. It can take 20+ years for the toxins to build up in the system until they start causing more extreme symptoms- including the skin fungus, lesions, debris coming out of the skin, etc. AandrayaOn Aug 21, 2011, at 11:44 PM, Doe wrote: Hi Jay My eye alo twitched rom all this , I think it was stress , I used to think it was the betadine I dumped on my head to stop the lesisons , which worked but is not recommendded by pharmacists , they say iodine is not good for on you in that hyigh of a concentration , .lesions are gone now , that was 5 years ago ,also we had no forums then , none. I could find. as for the car I wash w/ 1 cup borax & 1 cup spic n span & 1 gal o water & drench the cushion , carpet what ever, then wet vac & dry w/ a hair dryer for 12-24 hrs .I rarely get a bit anymore . Praise God !Bye , God bless you ps any itch for me is stopped in 3 mins by this mix , I keep it in my pocket is a small hand sanitizer bottle & apply straight thru my clothes & leave it on : It never satins clothes & never burns . The mix : http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html The mix: 2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster 16 oz peroxide (3%) 32 oz water. mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide apply top of head to toe , try to keep out of the eye ball .... For eye I wet skin , close eyes & apply betadine slowly & carefully to the lid a brow , leave on for 5 mins & risne off well , it kills the bug in 10 mins .. for realstubborn areas I upgrade to 8 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster 8 oz peroxide (3%) 8oz water. And apply God bless you Jay , Bill On Sun Aug 21st, 2011 10:40 PM EDT s.jay8383 wrote: >Oh, also wanted to add that my left eye has been intermittently twitching for the first time in my life...since this started... > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?! >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Even a little? >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't >> > > want to >> > > > > > > make it >> > > > > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a nest 20 >> > > feet up >> > > > > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about >> > > (although I >> > > > > > > can't >> > > > > > > > > be certain that is the "source." >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated! >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >

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Oops, sorry, it's Hepapro, not Herbapro. Great stuff, but costs a lot to use it long term. It's 2 caps 3 x a day.On Aug 22, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Aandraya Da Silva wrote: -I've only taking Dr. Zhang's allicin- Herbapro, for a few months and that's all, it's so expensive to take it at the necessary dosage. I do think that Allicin is easier on the stomach than pure raw garlic. I tried raw garlic once and it made me throw up.AandrayaOn Aug 22, 2011, at 7:18 AM, Krys Brennand wrote: ,Have you tried mixing the raw crushed or minced garlic with other things? We have a variety of garlic mixes which we use. KrysOn 22 August 2011 01:00, <Goldstein@...> wrote: My stomach becomes very imbalanced with a lot of garlic. Any suggestions? L.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...> bird mites Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:58:44 PMSubject: Re: Re: How easy it is for bird mites to get through screens? You need to take allicin to the point that it's oozing out your pores, that's when it will really be effective. People will probably complain because you'll wreak of garlic. That's why most people don't stick with this treatment. You will burp and pee garlic! On Aug 14, 2011, at 9:50 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10594976 Are you always this right?! ;] > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?! > > > > > > > > > > > > Even a little? > > > > > > > > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't want to > > > > make it > > > > > > any easier for them to get in..and there is a nest 20 feet up > > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about (although I > > > > can't > > > > > > be certain that is the "source." > > > > > > > > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who. Rudyard Kipling

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Jay-Lyme is a clinical diagnosis. If you've had it for a long time the tests will show up negative until you start to treat. That's why a Lyme doc can get your symptoms, test through Igenix if you can afford it, or do a provocation test. You can try a product called Banderol- can't think of the company right now. Take a few drops for a week or so. If you have Lyme you'll get a Herxheimer effect(die-off effect from the bacteria being attacked) and you will feel fluish. That will almost for sure happen if you have Lyme. Don't waste your money on a non Lyme literate doctor, they don't know anything about chronic Lyme and they'll give you the ELISA test which is pretty much useless.AandrayaOn Aug 22, 2011, at 11:33 AM, s.jay8383 wrote: Thanks for the further info. I am crushing the garlic for the allicin... I will get tested for Lyme ASAP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it would help keep them out at all?! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even a little? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would love to get some fresh air this Fall but don't > > > > > want to > > > > > > > > > make it > > > > > > > > > > > any easier for them to get in...and there is a > > nest 20 > > > > > feet up > > > > > > > > > > > almost directly above the window I'm talking about > > > > > (although I > > > > > > > > > can't > > > > > > > > > > > be certain that is the "source." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As always, any insight appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >