Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house

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It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have someone else come clean it up and then spray Lysol and/or Windex all over the place because the mites could crawl off towards your apartment looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of nests or anything like feathers from birds.From: "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 5:59:36 PMSubject: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house

be the source of the mites?

I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just saw this nest near my apartment...

This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front stoop so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.

Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest although I don't see how they can control themselves in the air...

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Having a nest this close to your home could most likely be the source of your

problems. Mites are able to travel long distances in a relatively short time.

They can also run very very quickly.

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> This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front stoop so just

curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.

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> Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they might be able

to potentially " drop " on me from the nest although I don't see how they can

control themselves in the air...

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Thanks for the thoughts .

Thing is that I can't afford to have anyone else do it.

Don't I need to eliminate the source though? Wouldn't it be worse to have the

source still be around than some of the mites be errant?

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> It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have someone else come

clean it up and then spray Lysol and/or Windex all over the place because the

mites could crawl off towards your apartment looking for further blood meal. I

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curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.

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> Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they might be able

to potentially " drop " on me from the nest although I don't see how they can

control themselves in the air...

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-Funny how this whole experience makes one hypervigilant to animals, feathers, bugs, etc.On Aug 5, 2011, at 8:55 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have someone else come clean it up and then spray Lysol and/or Windex all over the place because the mites could crawl off towards your apartment looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of nests or anything like feathers from birds.From: "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 5:59:36 PMSubject: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house

be the source of the mites?

I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just saw this nest near my apartment...

This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front stoop so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.

Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest although I don't see how they can control themselves in the air...

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Unfortunately I don't have the cash to do that.

Plus I think they may be coming from that nest and making me their host!

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Used to be bite sensations now it is lesions..

some between the toes....mostly on the feet...a couple around the knee...and

three around one of my eyebrows...

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It shows that you've got some chronic infections- fungal, maybe bacterial. I highly recommend you have an exam with a Lyme literate doctor. Where do you live? Do you have any cognitive symptoms- brain fog, tippy feeling, memory, depression, issue with depth perception?.... fatigue or insomnia? The birdmites are almost for sure just a manifestation of systemic infections. LIke I said, I've seen it all, it's been a long road for me, but I am recovering.AandrayaOn Aug 05, 2011, at 09:58 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Used to be bite sensations now it is lesions..

some between the toes....mostly on the feet...a couple around the knee...and three around one of my eyebrows...

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Hi Aandraya,

Thanks for responding

My memory is not what it once was and I have always suffered from

depression....I have had fatigue for some time mostly b/c my sleep is

troubled...especially lately due to the mites.

My ex did hang a wet towel in the shower and the shower liners got moldy...so I

replaced them.

Also, a test recently showed moderate bacterial presence in my body but no other

details. I thought it was b/c the mites were introducing other organisms to my

system?

One thing that is confusing is that you are saying this is systemic...as if the

mites are an outgrowth of internal issues.

However, they really only bother me in my apartment and in my car.

If I go to the YMCA for instance, hit the steam room and pool and then put on

fresh clothes...nothing bothers me until I re-enter the car or apartment...so I

know that it is primarily environmental...

When I was driving in my truck...in a traffic jam...they were infesting my face

and it was torture...

Anyway, thanks again and I look forward to your reply...

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Forgot to ask - might this just mean that my home and car are now so infested

that the bites are more prevalent?

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Thanks - if they don't heal I'll try it!

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I would definately remove the nest even if it´s some distance to where you live. Maby have someone else doing it, so you don´t get attacked.Good luckCeciliaFrom: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 2:59 AMSubject: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and

about 4-6 feet away from the house

be the source of the mites?

I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just saw this nest near my apartment...

This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front stoop so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.

Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest although I don't see how they can control themselves in the air...

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I agree aandraya, I feel the same and it´s hard to be and live normal having these feelings and thoughts.cECILIAFrom: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 4:10 AMSubject: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the

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-Funny how this whole experience makes one hypervigilant to animals, feathers, bugs, etc.On Aug 5, 2011, at 8:55 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have someone else come clean it up and then spray Lysol and/or Windex all over the place because the mites could crawl off towards your apartment looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of nests or anything like feathers from birds.From: "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 5:59:36 PMSubject: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house

be the source of the mites?

I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just saw this nest near my apartment...

This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front stoop so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.

Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest although I don't see how they can control themselves in the air...

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So by cleaning your environment (with what I wonder?) and taking something

internally for fungus you are solving the problem?

Thanks for the info...this is such a challenging problem.

I did have stubborn ringworm and am wondering if this is somehow related?

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Aandraya,

Thanks as always for the insight.

Unfortunately, I don't have health insurance or money for a doctor at the

moment.

Any idea what kind of abx might help? Is there an OTC Generic kind I can get

that will not harm me..but may help?

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Hi Group. This may not necessarily be true. She may be getting attacked by the

mites, because of the fact that she is infested already and is shedding the

mites in her environment where she frequents. Being her car and her home. Are

you on any anti-parasitics, like ivermectin and/or permethrin? Have you tried

ivermectin yet? the mites are probably attracted to her because she already has

mites in and on her, as they are attracted to pheromones. For instance, if

someone young and has not been exposed to these mites enters her car at the same

time she enters, and they ride 10 miles together, the mites may not be attracted

to this person simply because they have no pheromones emitting from their body.

They would be attracted to her to get to the other mites and to get to her for

feeding and multiplying and breeding, etc. I totally disagree that people have

to have a bacterial or fungal infection for the mites to be attracted to them.

I do believe that a person's age and immunity has alot to do with ridding

themselves of these mites.

In her car, she can use an insect growth regulator and a knockdown/residual like

cyonara and martin's nylar from doyourownpestcontrol dot com. keep the spray

bottle in your car and spray it when you get out of the car, spray the carpet

flooring and seat. Remove that bird's nest with gloves. get rid of it. if you

are already infested, what's the big deal in handling this nest? You wear

gloves, you throw it in the trash, and spray your bug sprays and be done with

it.

Well, that's my experience for now. Talk later.

Mel

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Thanks for the thoughts.

Have used a store bought insecticide with the same active ingredient - LAMBDA

CYHALOTHRIN.

Instead of 9.7% though, as in the case of Cyonara, it is .16%.

What a difference! Over 60x!

It definitely seems to have slowed them down in my truck the first time but now

it seems they have become resistant to it (that level concentration at least.)

I intend to rotate this with another insecticide such as Tempo Ultra SC or

Onslaught.

How important do you think using an IGR is? Nylar is not listed for bird

mites...

I am attacking this problem from 3 fronts: external, internal, environmental.

Many who have seen success seem to be using this approach and it makes sense in

just about every area if you think about it

Still not sure about the nest. Right now it seems like the bird mites *might*

be under control... Wishful thinking? I hope not :0

What will happen to it come wintertime? My local exterminator says that they

will die off and I have read that they cannot live under -4 degrees...

Will the nest itself fall away with all the snow?

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P.S. Can i go back to being a guy now?!

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One exterminator thought it was just dirt (impossible as I have never found

black specks on my person like this.)

Another said it was D. Gallinae.

Now it is mostly white granules I find on myself (lately it has been under the

eye area for some reason although I still see them on my scalp and all over.)

I don't know it I have springtails or what. Still trying to figure all this out

and come up with a strategy to fight this on all fronts.

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Thanks for the insight.

If the nest is the source, I wish I could send it into the bowels of hell

Problem is I can't reach it with a ladder so I would have to get a telescoping

pole and put some kind of grabber on the end. It would be a clumsy affair as I

would have to knock it through the threes 40 feet to the ground...not sure what

the ramifications of that would be...

From what others are saying, sounds like the specks are an indication of an

infection related to the mites. Sounds like one can have an internal infection

(bacterial or fungal) that draws them or the bird mites can introduce the

infection via other organisms that live on / within them.

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> They shut the road through the woods

> Seventy years ago.

> Weather and rain have undone it again,

> And now you would never know

> There was once a road through the woods

> Before they planted the trees.

> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> And the thin anemones.

> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,

> And the badgers roll at ease,

> There was once a road through the woods.

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> Yet, if you enter the woods

> Of a summer evening late,

> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.

> (They fear not men in the woods,

> Because they see so few)

> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,

> As though they perfectly knew

> The old lost road through the woods….

> But there is no road through the woods.

> *

> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

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Darn. This wig is starting to itch even more than the mites

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