Re: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house

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I heard that stiletto's hurt!! (especially when there are a few mites up in there).From: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 3:23 PMSubject:

Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house

Darn. This wig is starting to itch even more than the mites

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Hilarious! L.From: "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 12:23:45 PMSubject: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house

Darn. This wig is starting to itch even more than the mites

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!From: "Mel" <iggydoll@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 12:40:46 PMSubject: Re: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house

I heard that stiletto's hurt!! (especially when there are a few mites up in there).From: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 3:23 PMSubject:

Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house

Darn. This wig is starting to itch even more than the mites

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Yes, . When someone gets on and says they've got the issues licked because they continue to do certain protocols and avoid getting bothered, well that tells you they haven't addressed the core issue. Being cured means not having to do all those things anymore. So, yes, some have done some things and been cured in 3 monts. Others have to keep doing things or its back to hell. That has to tell you something is not being addressed. Seems it would be an infection.

Love and Light,

From: iggydoll <iggydoll@...>Subject: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the housebird mites Date: Monday, August 8, 2011, 2:27 AMQquorum Sensing is a fact. I've experienced it when the biofilm was bad on my body. However, some people, like Rita, get better quickly after simple methods like 10 days bleach and epsome salts on body with roach Prufe on bed and clothes for 3 months. How fortunate for them. But it seems the majority of people don't get the same results. My rule of thumb is...........if you must continue to do ANYTHING to relieve the problem indefinately, then look for a body infection of some kind. Take care of it, and you will never have to do a routine again. Freedom!

Love and light,

Hi Group. This may not necessarily be true. She may be getting attacked by the mites, because of the fact that she is infested already and is shedding the mites in her environment where she frequents. Being her car and her home. Are you on any anti-parasitics, like ivermectin and/or permethrin? Have you tried ivermectin yet? the mites are probably attracted to her because she already has mites in and on her, as they are attracted to pheromones. For instance, if someone young and has not been exposed to these mites enters her car at the same time she enters, and they ride 10 miles together, the mites may not be attracted to this person simply because they have no pheromones emitting from their body. They would be attracted to her to get to the other mites and to get to her for feeding and multiplying and breeding, etc. I totally disagree that people have to have a bacterial or fungal infection for the mites to be attracted to them. I do believe that

a person's age and immunity has alot to do with ridding themselves of these mites. In her car, she can use an insect growth regulator and a knockdown/residual like cyonara and martin's nylar from doyourownpestcontrol dot com. keep the spray bottle in your car and spray it when you get out of the car, spray the carpet flooring and seat. Remove that bird's nest with gloves. get rid of it. if you are already infested, what's the big deal in handling this nest? You wear gloves, you throw it in the trash, and spray your bug sprays and be done with it. Well, that's my experience for now. Talk later.Mel> > >> > > Do you have skin lesions

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Yes, . When someone gets on and says they've got the issues licked because they continue to do certain protocols and avoid getting bothered, well that tells you they haven't addressed the core issue. Being cured means not having to do all those things anymore. So, yes, some have done some things and been cured in 3 monts. Others have to keep doing things or its back to hell. That has to tell you something is not being addressed. Seems it would be an infection.

Love and Light,

From: iggydoll <iggydoll@...>Subject: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the housebird mites Date: Monday, August 8, 2011, 2:27 AMQquorum Sensing is a fact. I've experienced it when the biofilm was bad on my body. However, some people, like Rita, get better quickly after simple methods like 10 days bleach and epsome salts on body with roach Prufe on bed and clothes for 3 months. How fortunate for them. But it seems the majority of people don't get the same results. My rule of thumb is...........if you must continue to do ANYTHING to relieve the problem indefinately, then look for a body infection of some kind. Take care of it, and you will never have to do a routine again. Freedom!

Love and light,

Hi Group. This may not necessarily be true. She may be getting attacked by the mites, because of the fact that she is infested already and is shedding the mites in her environment where she frequents. Being her car and her home. Are you on any anti-parasitics, like ivermectin and/or permethrin? Have you tried ivermectin yet? the mites are probably attracted to her because she already has mites in and on her, as they are attracted to pheromones. For instance, if someone young and has not been exposed to these mites enters her car at the same time she enters, and they ride 10 miles together, the mites may not be attracted to this person simply because they have no pheromones emitting from their body. They would be attracted to her to get to the other mites and to get to her for feeding and multiplying and breeding, etc. I totally disagree that people have to have a bacterial or fungal infection for the mites to be attracted to them. I do believe that

a person's age and immunity has alot to do with ridding themselves of these mites. In her car, she can use an insect growth regulator and a knockdown/residual like cyonara and martin's nylar from doyourownpestcontrol dot com. keep the spray bottle in your car and spray it when you get out of the car, spray the carpet flooring and seat. Remove that bird's nest with gloves. get rid of it. if you are already infested, what's the big deal in handling this nest? You wear gloves, you throw it in the trash, and spray your bug sprays and be done with it. Well, that's my experience for now. Talk later.Mel> > >> > > Do you have skin lesions

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BIrdmites can take almost any minus temperature they just go dormant and live again if they get into normal temperature according to the specialist Jan Chirico, researcher on mites.Take care!CeciliaFrom: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 9:03 PMSubject: Re: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house

I don't know how important using an IGR would be. If you are going to try one, TetraSan is an IGR which is indicated for use against mites. I don't know the price difference, if any.D.gallinae (red bird mite) can survive to -20C (-4F) not sure about lower.

I don't understand the specks. My mother, who also has a mite infestation has specks too. She's had various people look at them under a microscope but they are fibrous & not mites. I've seen mites on the birds here ( & had them on my skin), they're not hard, they squish reasonably easily. They do not go into your skin.

It might be a daft idea, but, if you think the birds nest near by is the cause of your problems, would it not be possible to climb a ladder & burn the nest with a blow torch?

On 8 August 2011 13:18, s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Thanks for the thoughts.

Have used a store bought insecticide with the same active ingredient - LAMBDA CYHALOTHRIN.

Instead of 9.7% though, as in the case of Cyonara, it is .16%.

What a difference! Over 60x!

It definitely seems to have slowed them down in my truck the first time but now it seems they have become resistant to it (that level concentration at least.)

I intend to rotate this with another insecticide such as Tempo Ultra SC or Onslaught.

How important do you think using an IGR is? Nylar is not listed for bird mites...

I am attacking this problem from 3 fronts: external, internal, environmental. Many who have seen success seem to be using this approach and it makes sense in just about every area if you think about it

Still not sure about the nest. Right now it seems like the bird mites *might* be under control... Wishful thinking? I hope not :0

What will happen to it come wintertime? My local exterminator says that they will die off and I have read that they cannot live under -4 degrees...

Will the nest itself fall away with all the snow?

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-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

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BIrdmites can take almost any minus temperature they just go dormant and live again if they get into normal temperature according to the specialist Jan Chirico, researcher on mites.Take care!CeciliaFrom: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 9:03 PMSubject: Re: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house

I don't know how important using an IGR would be. If you are going to try one, TetraSan is an IGR which is indicated for use against mites. I don't know the price difference, if any.D.gallinae (red bird mite) can survive to -20C (-4F) not sure about lower.

I don't understand the specks. My mother, who also has a mite infestation has specks too. She's had various people look at them under a microscope but they are fibrous & not mites. I've seen mites on the birds here ( & had them on my skin), they're not hard, they squish reasonably easily. They do not go into your skin.

It might be a daft idea, but, if you think the birds nest near by is the cause of your problems, would it not be possible to climb a ladder & burn the nest with a blow torch?

On 8 August 2011 13:18, s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Thanks for the thoughts.

Have used a store bought insecticide with the same active ingredient - LAMBDA CYHALOTHRIN.

Instead of 9.7% though, as in the case of Cyonara, it is .16%.

What a difference! Over 60x!

It definitely seems to have slowed them down in my truck the first time but now it seems they have become resistant to it (that level concentration at least.)

I intend to rotate this with another insecticide such as Tempo Ultra SC or Onslaught.

How important do you think using an IGR is? Nylar is not listed for bird mites...

I am attacking this problem from 3 fronts: external, internal, environmental. Many who have seen success seem to be using this approach and it makes sense in just about every area if you think about it

Still not sure about the nest. Right now it seems like the bird mites *might* be under control... Wishful thinking? I hope not :0

What will happen to it come wintertime? My local exterminator says that they will die off and I have read that they cannot live under -4 degrees...

Will the nest itself fall away with all the snow?

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> > > > Do you have skin lesions or just bite sensations?

> > > >

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-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling