Re: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house

August 5, 2011

I would wear one of those full body suits with a hood, mask and goggles. Then dispose of it when you finish. Or wait until the birds leave it, the mites can't survive without a host.On Aug 5, 2011, at 8:58 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Thanks for the thoughts .

Thing is that I can't afford to have anyone else do it.

Don't I need to eliminate the source though? Wouldn't it be worse to have the source still be around than some of the mites be errant?

>

> It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have someone else come clean it up and then spray Lysol and/or Windex all over the place because the mites could crawl off towards your apartment looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of nests or anything like feathers from birds.

>

> Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house

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> be the source of the mites?

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> I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just saw this nest near my apartment...

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> This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front stoop so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.

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> Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest although I don't see how they can control themselves in the air...

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August 5, 2011

Do you have skin lesions or just bite sensations?On Aug 5, 2011, at 9:32 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Unfortunately I don't have the cash to do that.

Plus I think they may be coming from that nest and making me their host!

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> > > It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have someone

> > else come clean it up and then spray Lysol and/or Windex all over

> > the place because the mites could crawl off towards your apartment

> > looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of nests or

> > anything like feathers from birds.

> > >

> > > Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and

> > about 4-6 feet away from the house

> > >

> > > be the source of the mites?

> > >

> > > I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just saw

> > this nest near my apartment...

> > >

> > > This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front stoop

> > so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.

> > >

> > > Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they

> > might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest although I

> > don't see how they can control themselves in the air...

> > >

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August 5, 2011

Hi Jay

This cured 3 year old lesions on a poster here named frito. Here is her post

re-pasted here !

Ps here is the mix

http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html

The mix:

2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster

16 oz peroxide (3%)

32 oz water.

mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide

Here is Frotos post , it saved me

Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and

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>> > > > stoop

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>> > > > > > > Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they

>> > > > > > might be able to potentially " drop " on me from the nest although I

>> > > > > > don't see how they can control themselves in the air...

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August 5, 2011

I'm just saying spray it with poisons first -- spray around the outside in a circle so that when mites start to leave they have to go thru poison--maybe put diatomaceous earth around that. You can't be too careful.Sent from my iPodOn Aug 5, 2011, at 6:58 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Thanks for the thoughts .

Thing is that I can't afford to have anyone else do it.

Don't I need to eliminate the source though? Wouldn't it be worse to have the source still be around than some of the mites be errant?

>

> It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have someone else come clean it up and then spray Lysol and/or Windex all over the place because the mites could crawl off towards your apartment looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of nests or anything like feathers from birds.

>

> Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house

>

> be the source of the mites?

>

> I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just saw this nest near my apartment...

>

> This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front stoop so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.

>

> Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest although I don't see how they can control themselves in the air...

>

August 6, 2011

For us the home got more and more infested and we all in the family had bites more and more but than it became less and less after all things we did.KRCeciliaFrom: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 5:55 AMSubject: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air

and about 4-6 feet away from the house

Forgot to ask - might this just mean that my home and car are now so infested that the bites are more prevalent?

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> > > > > > > It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have

> > > > someone

> > > > > > else come clean it up and then spray Lysol and/or Windex all over

> > > > > > the place because the mites could crawl off towards your apartment

> > > > > > looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of nests or

> > > > > > anything like feathers from birds.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and

> > > > > > about 4-6 feet away from the house

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > be the source of the mites?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just

> > > > saw

> > > > > > this nest near my apartment...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front

> > > > stoop

> > > > > > so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they

> > > > > > might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest although I

> > > > > > don't see how they can control themselves in the air...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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August 6, 2011

Hi Jay

This cured 3 year old lesions on a poster here named frito. Here is her post

re-pasted here !

Ps here is the mix

http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html

The mix:

2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster

16 oz peroxide (3%)

32 oz water.

mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide

Here is Fritos post , it saved me

Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and

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>> > > > > > > be the source of the mites?

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>> > > > > > > I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just

>> > > > saw

>> > > > > > this nest near my apartment...

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front

>> > > > stoop

>> > > > > > so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they

>> > > > > > might be able to potentially " drop " on me from the nest although I

>> > > > > > don't see how they can control themselves in the air...

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August 6, 2011

S.Jay-Many with our symptoms are being diagnosed with tick borne diseases. It took me months to figure this out, until I got to a Lyme literate doctor. On different antibiotic and antifungal therapies I am finally getting better. The lab tests for tick borne diseases are not reliable, it is a clinical diagnosis, that's why I asked where you live, you might have a Lyme literate doc in your area. I live in Mn and see a doc in WI, but I originally went to a doctor in FL who knew about these symptoms and he diagnosed me seconds after looking at me and knowing my story. It has been a long recovery.Memory loss, anxiety, insomnia, lesions are common symptoms of tick borne diseases. At the beginning it appears to be purely environmental, but there is a reason the insects are attracted to you. If you go on certain abx and get a die-off effect you know it's a chronic infection. If you treat the chronic infections the bugs will not be attracted to you.AandrayaOn Aug 5, 2011, at 10:53 PM, s.jay8383 wrote: Hi Aandraya, Thanks for responding My memory is not what it once was and I have always suffered from depression....I have had fatigue for some time mostly b/c my sleep is troubled...especially lately due to the mites. My ex did hang a wet towel in the shower and the shower liners got moldy...so I replaced them. Also, a test recently showed moderate bacterial presence in my body but no other details. I thought it was b/c the mites were introducing other organisms to my system? One thing that is confusing is that you are saying this is systemic...as if the mites are an outgrowth of internal issues. However, they really only bother me in my apartment and in my car. If I go to the YMCA for instance, hit the steam room and pool and then put on fresh clothes...nothing bothers me until I re-enter the car or apartment...so I know that it is primarily environmental... When I was driving in my truck...in a traffic jam...they were infesting my face and it was torture... Anyway, thanks again and I look forward to your reply... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have > > > > someone > > > > > > else come clean it up and then spray Lysol and/or Windex all over > > > > > > the place because the mites could crawl off towards your apartment > > > > > > looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of nests or > > > > > > anything like feathers from birds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and > > > > > > about 4-6 feet away from the house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be the source of the mites? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just > > > > saw > > > > > > this nest near my apartment... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front > > > > stoop > > > > > > so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they > > > > > > might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest although I > > > > > > don't see how they can control themselves in the air... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

August 6, 2011

Yes, and I highly doubt any pesticide will help the problem, in fact your body may already be so toxic that more chemicals can make you worse.AandrayaOn Aug 5, 2011, at 10:55 PM, s.jay8383 wrote: Forgot to ask - might this just mean that my home and car are now so infested that the bites are more prevalent? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have > > > > someone > > > > > > else come clean it up and then spray Lysol and/or Windex all over > > > > > > the place because the mites could crawl off towards your apartment > > > > > > looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of nests or > > > > > > anything like feathers from birds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and > > > > > > about 4-6 feet away from the house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be the source of the mites? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just > > > > saw > > > > > > this nest near my apartment... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front > > > > stoop > > > > > > so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they > > > > > > might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest although I > > > > > > don't see how they can control themselves in the air... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

August 6, 2011

Sjay,

Consider the environmental thing. In my case, I infected my environment. The histoplasmosis fungus (comes from bird droppings) had infected my system. It was coming out of craters in my skin. Now this condition usually appears in Africa or the tropics. The fungus on my skin made hypae. These sent spores into my environment....car, apartment, and work place. I could bathe and get them off and feel good for a while, but I still had the fungus. It grows fast and must have a smell although I couldn't see it but could feel it under special circumstances. Any where you go, collembola, rove beetles, and feather winged beetles are not far off. They are going to smell you even after a bath because you have dead layers of skin mixed with the biofilm you can't detect unless under special cleaning circumstances. So your car is probably hosting fungus everywhere and

the bugs are hanging out in your car. Bath or no they smell you. Treat the body, clean and vacuum the car, etc., and everything will start to go away. My car is non infested now, as is my apartment, and I am skipping fungal creams from time to time as my body is responding to the Intraconazole which I'll be on for several months. This is more than an environmental thing. The bird mites don't bother me anymore........at all.

Love and light,

From: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>Subject: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the housebird mites Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 3:53 AM

Hi Aandraya,Thanks for responding :)My memory is not what it once was and I have always suffered from depression....I have had fatigue for some time mostly b/c my sleep is troubled...especially lately due to the mites.My ex did hang a wet towel in the shower and the shower liners got moldy...so I replaced them.Also, a test recently showed moderate bacterial presence in my body but no other details. I thought it was b/c the mites were introducing other organisms to my system?One thing that is confusing is that you are saying this is systemic...as if the mites are an outgrowth of internal issues.However, they really only bother me in my apartment and in my car.If I go to the YMCA for instance, hit the steam room and pool and then put on fresh clothes...nothing bothers me until I re-enter the car or apartment...so I know that it is primarily environmental...When I was driving in my

truck...in a traffic jam...they were infesting my face and it was torture...Anyway, thanks again and I look forward to your reply...> > > > > > >> > > > > > > It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have> > > > someone> > > > > > else come clean it up and then spray Lysol and/or Windex all over> > > > > > the place because the mites could crawl off towards your apartment> > > > > >

looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of nests or> > > > > > anything like feathers from birds.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and> > > > > > about 4-6 feet away from the house> > > > > > >>

> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > be the source of the mites?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just> > > > saw> > > > > > this nest near my apartment...> > > > > > >> > > > > > > This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front> > > > stoop> > > > > > so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they> > > > > > might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest

although I> > > > > > don't see how they can control themselves in the air...> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

August 6, 2011

Once your immune system is compromised you're suceptible to all kinds of chronic infections. You could start by getting on an anti-Candida diet and using enzymes to clean your environment. On Aug 6, 2011, at 5:48 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

So by cleaning your environment (with what I wonder?) and taking something internally for fungus you are solving the problem?

Thanks for the info...this is such a challenging problem.

I did have stubborn ringworm and am wondering if this is somehow related?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have

> > > > > someone

> > > > > > > else come clean it up and then spray Lysol and/or Windex all over

> > > > > > > the place because the mites could crawl off towards your apartment

> > > > > > > looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of nests or

> > > > > > > anything like feathers from birds.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and

> > > > > > > about 4-6 feet away from the house

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > be the source of the mites?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just

> > > > > saw

> > > > > > > this nest near my apartment...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front

> > > > > stoop

> > > > > > > so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they

> > > > > > > might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest although I

> > > > > > > don't see how they can control themselves in the air...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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August 6, 2011

You can buy abx online from pharmacies outside the U.S. Without a prescription. These infections are so complex, I highly recommend you see a good Lyme literate MD. My symptoms started like yours, I had to stop working and will have been in treatment for two yrs in Oct. I take Itraconazole for fungal infections, and have been on multiple antibiotic cocktails for bacterial infections. There are also herbal antimicrobials that are effective. It is a multi-systemic group of complex chronic infections, but it is treatable, and it takes a long time. Aandraya On Aug 6, 2011, at 5:52 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Aandraya,

Thanks as always for the insight.

Unfortunately, I don't have health insurance or money for a doctor at the moment.

Any idea what kind of abx might help? Is there an OTC Generic kind I can get that will not harm me..but may help?

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> > > > > > > > > It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would

> > have

> > > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > else come clean it up and then spray Lysol and/or

> > Windex all over

> > > > > > > > the place because the mites could crawl off towards

> > your apartment

> > > > > > > > looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of

> > nests or

> > > > > > > > anything like feathers from birds.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Can a bird's nest 20 feet in

> > the air and

> > > > > > > > about 4-6 feet away from the house

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > be the source of the mites?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof

> > but I just

> > > > > > saw

> > > > > > > > this nest near my apartment...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This one is several feet away from the perimeter of

> > my front

> > > > > > stoop

> > > > > > > > so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see

> > how they

> > > > > > > > might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest

> > although I

> > > > > > > > don't see how they can control themselves in the air...

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August 6, 2011

That's only a small part of an overall treatment.On Aug 6, 2011, at 5:48 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

So by cleaning your environment (with what I wonder?) and taking something internally for fungus you are solving the problem?

Thanks for the info...this is such a challenging problem.

I did have stubborn ringworm and am wondering if this is somehow related?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have

> > > > > someone

> > > > > > > else come clean it up and then spray Lysol and/or Windex all over

> > > > > > > the place because the mites could crawl off towards your apartment

> > > > > > > looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of nests or

> > > > > > > anything like feathers from birds.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and

> > > > > > > about 4-6 feet away from the house

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > be the source of the mites?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just

> > > > > saw

> > > > > > > this nest near my apartment...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front

> > > > > stoop

> > > > > > > so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they

> > > > > > > might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest although I

> > > > > > > don't see how they can control themselves in the air...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

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August 6, 2011

Hi s.jay,

Here is what helped me:

1. Intraconazole to kill the histoplasmosis. That is the only anti fungal that will kill it.

2. I went on a strict antifungal diet. No sugars, carbs or starchy veggies

3. Switching anti fungal skin treatments. They say a fungus can adapt to a skin cream easily so one must change creams every 5 days. I used different athelete's foot creams and I mixed 16 ounces of coconut oil with 100 drops of each of the following essential oils:

Bitter Orange

, lemon eycaliptus, giner, clove bud, tea tree, and a few drops of oregano.

4. Bathing in 2 cups of Arm and Hammer Super Soda Wash in a large bath works as a poltus in pulling out the junk and biofilm.

5. Taking a large bath where I put about 1/4 of a cup of olive leaf powder on the edge of the tub and stick my fingers in and rub an area again, and agian. Rinse and then rub around 6o times with fingers and you can feel where the fungus mycileum is and roll it off.

6. In my case, may not apply to others, the herpe's 1 virus already in my body decided to join the party and create more sores. I'm on acyclovir 800 mg, 4 times a day.

7. Lysol complete clean is great for the environment. I put one cup in a garden sprayer with a gallon of water and spray car, apartment, furniture, etc. It kills the fungus. I wash my clothes twice. Once in soap, and once in lysol. I clean the dryer, the dryer door, and the lint area with white distilled vinegar. Consider fungus grows more rapidly in hot, humid conditions. The head is the hottest part of the body. It loves the scalp. There wasn't a part of my body it did not go to.

Because of the sores, shards, white floaters, occational black spots (spores), and the fact that the CDC recommends the burning of all materials infected with this fungus, I tend to lean toward the idea that most have the histoplasmosis. After all, it's all over a bird's nest.

Just my guess.

Love and light,

From: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>Subject: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the housebird mites Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 10:48 PM

So by cleaning your environment (with what I wonder?) and taking something internally for fungus you are solving the problem?Thanks for the info...this is such a challenging problem.I did have stubborn ringworm and am wondering if this is somehow related?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have> > > > > someone> > > > > > > else come clean it up and then spray Lysol

and/or Windex all over> > > > > > > the place because the mites could crawl off towards your apartment> > > > > > > looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of nests or> > > > > > > anything like feathers from birds.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and> > > > > > > about 4-6 feet away from the house> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > be the source of the mites?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just> > > > > saw> > > > > > > this nest near my apartment...> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front> > > > > stoop> > > > > >

> so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they> > > > > > > might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest although I> > > > > > > don't see how they can control themselves in the air...> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >>

August 7, 2011

I know of a patient my Naturopath saw who scraped all the crap off her skin and sent it to a lab and they said it was Stachybotrous- I believe a type of aspergillis. I tested positive for it with electrodermal screening, but I think we are dealing with multiple fungi, because they manifest differently. I no longer get the amber colored seeds or thick honey biofilm, but I still have other stuff in my skin.Where do you get your olive leaf powder, ? Aandraya On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:18 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

Hi s.jay,

Here is what helped me:

1. Intraconazole to kill the histoplasmosis. That is the only anti fungal that will kill it.

2. I went on a strict antifungal diet. No sugars, carbs or starchy veggies

3. Switching anti fungal skin treatments. They say a fungus can adapt to a skin cream easily so one must change creams every 5 days. I used different athelete's foot creams and I mixed 16 ounces of coconut oil with 100 drops of each of the following essential oils:

Bitter Orange

, lemon eycaliptus, giner, clove bud, tea tree, and a few drops of oregano.

4. Bathing in 2 cups of Arm and Hammer Super Soda Wash in a large bath works as a poltus in pulling out the junk and biofilm.

5. Taking a large bath where I put about 1/4 of a cup of olive leaf powder on the edge of the tub and stick my fingers in and rub an area again, and agian. Rinse and then rub around 6o times with fingers and you can feel where the fungus mycileum is and roll it off.

6. In my case, may not apply to others, the herpe's 1 virus already in my body decided to join the party and create more sores. I'm on acyclovir 800 mg, 4 times a day.

7. Lysol complete clean is great for the environment. I put one cup in a garden sprayer with a gallon of water and spray car, apartment, furniture, etc. It kills the fungus. I wash my clothes twice. Once in soap, and once in lysol. I clean the dryer, the dryer door, and the lint area with white distilled vinegar. Consider fungus grows more rapidly in hot, humid conditions. The head is the hottest part of the body. It loves the scalp. There wasn't a part of my body it did not go to.

Because of the sores, shards, white floaters, occational black spots (spores), and the fact that the CDC recommends the burning of all materials infected with this fungus, I tend to lean toward the idea that most have the histoplasmosis. After all, it's all over a bird's nest.

Just my guess.

Love and light,

From: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>Subject: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the housebird mites Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 10:48 PM

So by cleaning your environment (with what I wonder?) and taking something internally for fungus you are solving the problem?Thanks for the info...this is such a challenging problem.I did have stubborn ringworm and am wondering if this is somehow related?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have> > > > > someone> > > > > > > else come clean it up and then spray Lysol

and/or Windex all over> > > > > > > the place because the mites could crawl off towards your apartment> > > > > > > looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of nests or> > > > > > > anything like feathers from birds.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and> > > > > > > about 4-6 feet away from the house> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > be the source of the mites?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just> > > > > saw> > > > > > > this nest near my apartment...> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front> > > > > stoop> > > > > >

> so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they> > > > > > > might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest although I> > > > > > > don't see how they can control themselves in the air...> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >>

August 7, 2011

I meant , not LInda about the olive leaf, sorry. We all have the same stuff going on!AandrayaOn Aug 7, 2011, at 12:18 AM, Benton wrote: Hi s.jay, Here is what helped me: 1. Intraconazole to kill the histoplasmosis. That is the only anti fungal that will kill it. 2. I went on a strict antifungal diet. No sugars, carbs or starchy veggies 3. Switching anti fungal skin treatments. They say a fungus can adapt to a skin cream easily so one must change creams every 5 days. I used different athelete's foot creams and I mixed 16 ounces of coconut oil with 100 drops of each of the following essential oils: Bitter Orange , lemon eycaliptus, giner, clove bud, tea tree, and a few drops of oregano. 4. Bathing in 2 cups of Arm and Hammer Super Soda Wash in a large bath works as a poltus in pulling out the junk and biofilm. 5. Taking a large bath where I put about 1/4 of a cup of olive leaf powder on the edge of the tub and stick my fingers in and rub an area again, and agian. Rinse and then rub around 6o times with fingers and you can feel where the fungus mycileum is and roll it off. 6. In my case, may not apply to others, the herpe's 1 virus already in my body decided to join the party and create more sores. I'm on acyclovir 800 mg, 4 times a day. 7. Lysol complete clean is great for the environment. I put one cup in a garden sprayer with a gallon of water and spray car, apartment, furniture, etc. It kills the fungus. I wash my clothes twice. Once in soap, and once in lysol. I clean the dryer, the dryer door, and the lint area with white distilled vinegar. Consider fungus grows more rapidly in hot, humid conditions. The head is the hottest part of the body. It loves the scalp. There wasn't a part of my body it did not go to. Because of the sores, shards, white floaters, occational black spots (spores), and the fact that the CDC recommends the burning of all materials infected with this fungus, I tend to lean toward the idea that most have the histoplasmosis. After all, it's all over a bird's nest. Just my guess. Love and light, From: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>Subject: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the housebird mites Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 10:48 PM So by cleaning your environment (with what I wonder?) and taking something internally for fungus you are solving the problem?Thanks for the info...this is such a challenging problem.I did have stubborn ringworm and am wondering if this is somehow related?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have> > > > > someone> > > > > > > else come clean it up and then spray Lysol and/or Windex all over> > > > > > > the place because the mites could crawl off towards your apartment> > > > > > > looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of nests or> > > > > > > anything like feathers from birds.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and> > > > > > > about 4-6 feet away from the house> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > be the source of the mites?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just> > > > > saw> > > > > > > this nest near my apartment...> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front> > > > > stoop> > > > > > > so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they> > > > > > > might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest although I> > > > > > > don't see how they can control themselves in the air...> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >>

August 7, 2011

I think it is who has extensively used olive leaf powder. I'm sure it is available maybe at Swanson's or other online supplement stores, I've used capsules in the past, but most likely in bulk powdered form would be cheapest, right ?Aandraya, your comment about the woman who had the stuff scraped off her skin was very interesting to me. It does not appear I got tested for that. I was tested for EBV (high), CMV (high), Parvovirus (high), Mycoplasma pneumoniae (high), HHV-6 (high). Did that woman ever say how she was doing post-treatment?From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 10:56:40 AMSubject: Re: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house

I know of a patient my Naturopath saw who scraped all the crap off her skin and sent it to a lab and they said it was Stachybotrous- I believe a type of aspergillis. I tested positive for it with electrodermal screening, but I think we are dealing with multiple fungi, because they manifest differently. I no longer get the amber colored seeds or thick honey biofilm, but I still have other stuff in my skin.Where do you get your olive leaf powder, ? Aandraya On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:18 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

Hi s.jay,

Here is what helped me:

1. Intraconazole to kill the histoplasmosis. That is the only anti fungal that will kill it.

2. I went on a strict antifungal diet. No sugars, carbs or starchy veggies

3. Switching anti fungal skin treatments. They say a fungus can adapt to a skin cream easily so one must change creams every 5 days. I used different athelete's foot creams and I mixed 16 ounces of coconut oil with 100 drops of each of the following essential oils:

Bitter Orange

, lemon eycaliptus, giner, clove bud, tea tree, and a few drops of oregano.

4. Bathing in 2 cups of Arm and Hammer Super Soda Wash in a large bath works as a poltus in pulling out the junk and biofilm.

5. Taking a large bath where I put about 1/4 of a cup of olive leaf powder on the edge of the tub and stick my fingers in and rub an area again, and agian. Rinse and then rub around 6o times with fingers and you can feel where the fungus mycileum is and roll it off.

6. In my case, may not apply to others, the herpe's 1 virus already in my body decided to join the party and create more sores. I'm on acyclovir 800 mg, 4 times a day.

7. Lysol complete clean is great for the environment. I put one cup in a garden sprayer with a gallon of water and spray car, apartment, furniture, etc. It kills the fungus. I wash my clothes twice. Once in soap, and once in lysol. I clean the dryer, the dryer door, and the lint area with white distilled vinegar. Consider fungus grows more rapidly in hot, humid conditions. The head is the hottest part of the body. It loves the scalp. There wasn't a part of my body it did not go to.

Because of the sores, shards, white floaters, occational black spots (spores), and the fact that the CDC recommends the burning of all materials infected with this fungus, I tend to lean toward the idea that most have the histoplasmosis. After all, it's all over a bird's nest.

Just my guess.

Love and light,

From: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>Subject: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the housebird mites Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 10:48 PM

So by cleaning your environment (with what I wonder?) and taking something internally for fungus you are solving the problem?Thanks for the info...this is such a challenging problem.I did have stubborn ringworm and am wondering if this is somehow related?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have> > > > > someone> > > > > > > else come clean it up and then spray Lysol

and/or Windex all over> > > > > > > the place because the mites could crawl off towards your apartment> > > > > > > looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of nests or> > > > > > > anything like feathers from birds.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and> > > > > > > about 4-6 feet away from the house> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > be the source of the mites?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just> > > > > saw> > > > > > > this nest near my apartment...> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front> > > > > stoop> > > > > >

> so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Guessing I should remove it either way as I could see how they> > > > > > > might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest although I> > > > > > > don't see how they can control themselves in the air...> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >>

August 7, 2011

I ordered it from starwest botanicals. They sell bulk. I am going to investigate the babesia and see if any symptoms match. However, I litterally have removed hypae from my body and recognize the fungus. Your right about several funguses. I think I had three. One with the blue, red, and black fibers left in February and the other two are on their way out.-- On Sun, 8/7/11, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>Subject: Re: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house"bird mites " <bird mites >Date: Sunday, August 7, 2011, 5:56 PM

I know of a patient my Naturopath saw who scraped all the crap off her skin and sent it to a lab and they said it was Stachybotrous- I believe a type of aspergillis. I tested positive for it with electrodermal screening, but I think we are dealing with multiple fungi, because they manifest differently. I no longer get the amber colored seeds or thick honey biofilm, but I still have other stuff in my skin.

Where do you get your olive leaf powder, ?

Aandraya

On Aug 7, 2011, at 12:18 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

Hi s.jay,

Here is what helped me:

1. Intraconazole to kill the histoplasmosis. That is the only anti fungal that will kill it.

2. I went on a strict antifungal diet. No sugars, carbs or starchy veggies

3. Switching anti fungal skin treatments. They say a fungus can adapt to a skin cream easily so one must change creams every 5 days. I used different athelete's foot creams and I mixed 16 ounces of coconut oil with 100 drops of each of the following essential oils:

Bitter Orange

, lemon eycaliptus, giner, clove bud, tea tree, and a few drops of oregano.

4. Bathing in 2 cups of Arm and Hammer Super Soda Wash in a large bath works as a poltus in pulling out the junk and biofilm.

5. Taking a large bath where I put about 1/4 of a cup of olive leaf powder on the edge of the tub and stick my fingers in and rub an area again, and agian. Rinse and then rub around 6o times with fingers and you can feel where the fungus mycileum is and roll it off.

6. In my case, may not apply to others, the herpe's 1 virus already in my body decided to join the party and create more sores. I'm on acyclovir 800 mg, 4 times a day.

7. Lysol complete clean is great for the environment. I put one cup in a garden sprayer with a gallon of water and spray car, apartment, furniture, etc. It kills the fungus. I wash my clothes twice. Once in soap, and once in lysol. I clean the dryer, the dryer door, and the lint area with white distilled vinegar. Consider fungus grows more rapidly in hot, humid conditions. The head is the hottest part of the body. It loves the scalp. There wasn't a part of my body it did not go to.

Because of the sores, shards, white floaters, occational black spots (spores), and the fact that the CDC recommends the burning of all materials infected with this fungus, I tend to lean toward the idea that most have the histoplasmosis. After all, it's all over a bird's nest.

Just my guess.

Love and light,

From: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>Subject: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the housebird mites Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 10:48 PM

So by cleaning your environment (with what I wonder?) and taking something internally for fungus you are solving the problem?Thanks for the info...this is such a challenging problem.I did have stubborn ringworm and am wondering if this is somehow related?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have> > > > > someone> > > > > > > else come clean it up and then spray Lysol and/or Windex all over> > > > > > > the place because the mites could crawl off towards your apartment> > > > > > > looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of nests or> > > > > > > anything like feathers from

birds.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and> > > > > > > about 4-6 feet away from the house>

> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > be the source of the mites?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just> > > > > saw> > > > > > > this nest near my apartment...> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front> > > > > stoop> > > > > > > so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Guessing I should remove it either

way as I could see how they> > > > > > > might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest although I> > > > > > > don't see how they can control themselves in the air...> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >>

August 7, 2011

Yes, . I pay $15 for a pound of olive leaf. It will last me 2 months for the bath.

From: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>Subject: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the housebird mites Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 10:48 PM

So by cleaning your environment (with what I wonder?) and taking something internally for fungus you are solving the problem?Thanks for the info...this is such a challenging problem.I did have stubborn ringworm and am wondering if this is somehow related?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > It could well be s.jay. I wouldn't touch it. I would have> > > > > someone> > > > > > > else come clean it up and then spray Lysol and/or Windex all over> > > > > > > the place because the mites could crawl off towards your apartment> > > > > > > looking for further blood meal. I am now really wary of nests or> > > > > > > anything like feathers from

birds.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and> > > > > > > about 4-6 feet away from the house>

> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > be the source of the mites?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have read that it is usually in the attic or roof but I just> > > > > saw> > > > > > > this nest near my apartment...> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This one is several feet away from the perimeter of my front> > > > > stoop> > > > > > > so just curious if anyone thinks this could be the one.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Guessing I should remove it either

way as I could see how they> > > > > > > might be able to potentially "drop" on me from the nest although I> > > > > > > don't see how they can control themselves in the air...> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >>

August 7, 2011

Of course not everyone that has mites on them has a chronic infection, but I believe most do. Especially because Jay has lesions and the black and white specks coming out of the skin- these are fungal or agrobacterium. Jay- have you seen the mites under the microscope or maybe even a magnifying glass? I had collembola, they jump, and you can sometimes see them with the naked eye. AandrayaOn Aug 7, 2011, at 9:27 PM, iggydoll wrote: Hi Group. This may not necessarily be true. She may be getting attacked by the mites, because of the fact that she is infested already and is shedding the mites in her environment where she frequents. Being her car and her home. Are you on any anti-parasitics, like ivermectin and/or permethrin? Have you tried ivermectin yet? the mites are probably attracted to her because she already has mites in and on her, as they are attracted to pheromones. For instance, if someone young and has not been exposed to these mites enters her car at the same time she enters, and they ride 10 miles together, the mites may not be attracted to this person simply because they have no pheromones emitting from their body. They would be attracted to her to get to the other mites and to get to her for feeding and multiplying and breeding, etc. I totally disagree that people have to have a bacterial or fungal infection for the mites to be attracted to them. I do believe that a person's age and immunity has alot to do with ridding themselves of these mites. In her car, she can use an insect growth regulator and a knockdown/residual like cyonara and martin's nylar from doyourownpestcontrol dot com. keep the spray bottle in your car and spray it when you get out of the car, spray the carpet flooring and seat. Remove that bird's nest with gloves. get rid of it. if you are already infested, what's the big deal in handling this nest? You wear gloves, you throw it in the trash, and spray your bug sprays and be done with it. Well, that's my experience for now. Talk later. Mel > > > > > > Do you have skin lesions or just bite sensations? > > > > > > > > > > > >

August 8, 2011

From: iggydoll <iggydoll@...>Subject: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the housebird mites Date: Monday, August 8, 2011, 2:27 AMQquorum Sensing is a fact. I've experienced it when the biofilm was bad on my body. However, some people, like Rita, get better quickly after simple methods like 10 days bleach and epsome salts on body with roach Prufe on bed and clothes for 3 months. How fortunate for them. But it seems the majority of people don't get the same results. My rule of thumb is...........if you must continue to do ANYTHING to relieve the problem indefinately, then look for a body infection of some kind. Take care of it, and you will never have to do a routine again. Freedom!

Love and light,

Hi Group. This may not necessarily be true. She may be getting attacked by the mites, because of the fact that she is infested already and is shedding the mites in her environment where she frequents. Being her car and her home. Are you on any anti-parasitics, like ivermectin and/or permethrin? Have you tried ivermectin yet? the mites are probably attracted to her because she already has mites in and on her, as they are attracted to pheromones. For instance, if someone young and has not been exposed to these mites enters her car at the same time she enters, and they ride 10 miles together, the mites may not be attracted to this person simply because they have no pheromones emitting from their body. They would be attracted to her to get to the other mites and to get to her for feeding and multiplying and breeding, etc. I totally disagree that people have to have a bacterial or fungal infection for the mites to be attracted to them. I do believe that

a person's age and immunity has alot to do with ridding themselves of these mites. In her car, she can use an insect growth regulator and a knockdown/residual like cyonara and martin's nylar from doyourownpestcontrol dot com. keep the spray bottle in your car and spray it when you get out of the car, spray the carpet flooring and seat. Remove that bird's nest with gloves. get rid of it. if you are already infested, what's the big deal in handling this nest? You wear gloves, you throw it in the trash, and spray your bug sprays and be done with it. Well, that's my experience for now. Talk later.Mel> > >> > > Do you have skin lesions or just bite sensations?> > >> > >> > >> > >

August 8, 2011

My computer keyboard is messing up. I'm not sure how my reply to Iggydoll ended up posting within the body she wrote. Sorry for the confusion. Can't tell you how it happened other than my keyboard does things without my permission and sometimes without my notice.

From: iggydoll <iggydoll@...>Subject: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the housebird mites Date: Monday, August 8, 2011, 2:27 AMQquorum Sensing is a fact. I've experienced it when the biofilm was bad on my body. However, some people, like Rita, get better quickly after simple methods like 10 days bleach and epsome salts on body with roach Prufe on bed and clothes for 3 months. How fortunate for them. But it seems the majority of people don't get the same results. My rule of thumb is...........if you must continue to do ANYTHING to relieve the problem indefinately, then look for a body infection of some kind. Take care of it, and you will never have to do a routine again. Freedom!

Love and light,

Hi Group. This may not necessarily be true. She may be getting attacked by the mites, because of the fact that she is infested already and is shedding the mites in her environment where she frequents. Being her car and her home. Are you on any anti-parasitics, like ivermectin and/or permethrin? Have you tried ivermectin yet? the mites are probably attracted to her because she already has mites in and on her, as they are attracted to pheromones. For instance, if someone young and has not been exposed to these mites enters her car at the same time she enters, and they ride 10 miles together, the mites may not be attracted to this person simply because they have no pheromones emitting from their body. They would be attracted to her to get to the other mites and to get to her for feeding and multiplying and breeding, etc. I totally disagree that people have to have a bacterial or fungal infection for the mites to be attracted to them. I do believe that

a person's age and immunity has alot to do with ridding themselves of these mites. In her car, she can use an insect growth regulator and a knockdown/residual like cyonara and martin's nylar from doyourownpestcontrol dot com. keep the spray bottle in your car and spray it when you get out of the car, spray the carpet flooring and seat. Remove that bird's nest with gloves. get rid of it. if you are already infested, what's the big deal in handling this nest? You wear gloves, you throw it in the trash, and spray your bug sprays and be done with it. Well, that's my experience for now. Talk later.Mel> > >> > > Do you have skin lesions

or just bite sensations?> > >> > >> > >> > >

August 8, 2011

I did get your message and I have to say again, I agree with your comments. Or I think your take on it was if various problems like biofilm go on and on and have to be treated over and over again, you've got an internal infection that needs to be treated, right?From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 5:45:17 AMSubject: Re: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house

My computer keyboard is messing up. I'm not sure how my reply to Iggydoll ended up posting within the body she wrote. Sorry for the confusion. Can't tell you how it happened other than my keyboard does things without my permission and sometimes without my notice.

From: iggydoll <iggydoll@...>Subject: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the housebird mites Date: Monday, August 8, 2011, 2:27 AMQquorum Sensing is a fact. I've experienced it when the biofilm was bad on my body. However, some people, like Rita, get better quickly after simple methods like 10 days bleach and epsome salts on body with roach Prufe on bed and clothes for 3 months. How fortunate for them. But it seems the majority of people don't get the same results. My rule of thumb is...........if you must continue to do ANYTHING to relieve the problem indefinately, then look for a body infection of some kind. Take care of it, and you will never have to do a routine again. Freedom!

Love and light,

Hi Group. This may not necessarily be true. She may be getting attacked by the mites, because of the fact that she is infested already and is shedding the mites in her environment where she frequents. Being her car and her home. Are you on any anti-parasitics, like ivermectin and/or permethrin? Have you tried ivermectin yet? the mites are probably attracted to her because she already has mites in and on her, as they are attracted to pheromones. For instance, if someone young and has not been exposed to these mites enters her car at the same time she enters, and they ride 10 miles together, the mites may not be attracted to this person simply because they have no pheromones emitting from their body. They would be attracted to her to get to the other mites and to get to her for feeding and multiplying and breeding, etc. I totally disagree that people have to have a bacterial or fungal infection for the mites to be attracted to them. I do believe that

a person's age and immunity has alot to do with ridding themselves of these mites. In her car, she can use an insect growth regulator and a knockdown/residual like cyonara and martin's nylar from doyourownpestcontrol dot com. keep the spray bottle in your car and spray it when you get out of the car, spray the carpet flooring and seat. Remove that bird's nest with gloves. get rid of it. if you are already infested, what's the big deal in handling this nest? You wear gloves, you throw it in the trash, and spray your bug sprays and be done with it. Well, that's my experience for now. Talk later.Mel> > >> > > Do you have skin lesions

or just bite sensations?> > >> > >> > >> > >

August 8, 2011

I don't know how important using an IGR would be. If you are going to try one, TetraSan is an IGR which is indicated for use against mites. I don't know the price difference, if any.D.gallinae (red bird mite) can survive to -20C (-4F) not sure about lower.

I don't understand the specks. My mother, who also has a mite infestation has specks too. She's had various people look at them under a microscope but they are fibrous & not mites. I've seen mites on the birds here ( & had them on my skin), they're not hard, they squish reasonably easily. They do not go into your skin.

It might be a daft idea, but, if you think the birds nest near by is the cause of your problems, would it not be possible to climb a ladder & burn the nest with a blow torch?

On 8 August 2011 13:18, s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Thanks for the thoughts.

Have used a store bought insecticide with the same active ingredient - LAMBDA CYHALOTHRIN.

Instead of 9.7% though, as in the case of Cyonara, it is .16%.

What a difference! Over 60x!

It definitely seems to have slowed them down in my truck the first time but now it seems they have become resistant to it (that level concentration at least.)

I intend to rotate this with another insecticide such as Tempo Ultra SC or Onslaught.

How important do you think using an IGR is? Nylar is not listed for bird mites...

I am attacking this problem from 3 fronts: external, internal, environmental. Many who have seen success seem to be using this approach and it makes sense in just about every area if you think about it

Still not sure about the nest. Right now it seems like the bird mites *might* be under control... Wishful thinking? I hope not :0

What will happen to it come wintertime? My local exterminator says that they will die off and I have read that they cannot live under -4 degrees...

Will the nest itself fall away with all the snow?

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-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

August 8, 2011

Absolutely NOT!! lol.... From: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 2:20 PMSubject: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in

the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house

P.S. Can i go back to being a guy now?!

;]

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August 8, 2011

My experience has been that they do not die from being in the freezer... maybe they hibernate? L.From: "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 11:18:05 AMSubject: Re: Can a bird's nest 20 feet in the air and about 4-6 feet away from the house

Thanks for the thoughts.

Have used a store bought insecticide with the same active ingredient - LAMBDA CYHALOTHRIN.

Instead of 9.7% though, as in the case of Cyonara, it is .16%.

What a difference! Over 60x!

It definitely seems to have slowed them down in my truck the first time but now it seems they have become resistant to it (that level concentration at least.)

I intend to rotate this with another insecticide such as Tempo Ultra SC or Onslaught.

How important do you think using an IGR is? Nylar is not listed for bird mites...

I am attacking this problem from 3 fronts: external, internal, environmental. Many who have seen success seem to be using this approach and it makes sense in just about every area if you think about it

Still not sure about the nest. Right now it seems like the bird mites *might* be under control... Wishful thinking? I hope not :0

What will happen to it come wintertime? My local exterminator says that they will die off and I have read that they cannot live under -4 degrees...

Will the nest itself fall away with all the snow?

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> > > > Do you have skin lesions or just bite sensations?

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