Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

August 9, 2011

, I posted the paper yesterday. Did it not arrive?KrysOn 9 August 2011 01:23, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

I can't wait to read that paper Krys. Thanks for you for your patience and perseverance. Jay, I do believe in the idea that we become marked as we become primary host so extra caution is needed in removal of a nest by you. There are long poles available at plant nurseries used for pruning tall trees--you might be able to purchase one or rent one--I'd wear a hazmat suit myself to dispose of it.

Sent from my iPodOn Aug 8, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote:

, I found a paper the other day researching bacteria carried by red poultry mite (Dermanyssus gallinae), it also discusses the possibilty of bacteria being endosymbionts. I'll put it in a new thread in case you find it of interest. I've also found a paper on endosymbionts of ticks, which has already been demonstrated.

KrysOn 8 August 2011 09:45, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Yes, for most people fungus is a part of it and as Krys said, bird mites do carry bacterias and fungi. It is also my belief and not Krys's idea, that most insects today have been exposed to other toxins through chemtrails (aerospraying) in the form of agrobacterium, and heavy metals, and this has been pretty well substantiated. Occasionally a simple case of infestation of bird mites happens, but it is somewhat rare now compared to in the past. What we have now are many types of biting insects that are highly infected. I also agree with Aandraya that most of us have already been exposed or carry pre-existing bacteria, fungi, viruses, heavy metals toxicity which makes us more prone to an allergic reaction to the bites of bird mites, bed bugs (who now carry MRSA), and other avenues of transmission.

In the case of disposing of a nest I still say, apart from wearing gloves to get rid of the nest, liberal spraying first - this may be hard if the nest is in a tree, but because you Jay already have mites most likely, I would take more precautions than was described by Mel, that is, just wearing gloves. Sandy from this forum got rid of a nest and they crawled up onto her immediately upon disturbing of the nest.

From: " Aandraya Da Silva " <aandraya@...>

bird mites

Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 10:40:34 PMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

Yes, I do think fungus is a part of the problem, but not all of it. On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:10 PM, s.jay8383 wrote: One thing is sticking out in my memory.

My ex left a wet towel hanging in the shower when I was gone. When I came back from traveling the shower curtain liners were covered with mold. I was so exhausted I slept in my bedroom that night before changing them out.

Do you think that fungus could have initiated the problem? If so, how do I eradicate the airborne spores? It has been a while... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them using

> > > > > > > primarily

> > > > > > > > > these two products! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated... > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > They shut the road through the woods

> > Seventy years ago. > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > And now you would never know > > There was once a road through the woods > > Before they planted the trees.

> > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > And the thin anemones. > > Only the keeper sees > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > There was once a road through the woods.

> > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > Of a summer evening late, > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > Because they see so few) > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > Steadily cantering through > > The misty solitudes,

> > As though they perfectly knew > > The old lost road through the woodsâ€¦. > > But there is no road through the woods. > > * > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

> > >

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

August 9, 2011

You'd have to make sure it was the right pesticide to kill those, but that could work. Wear protective suit too. Even if you wore a painter's plastic suit with as much of your body covered as possible... I bought those from Home Depot. Do you have Home Depot there in CT?From: "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 10:42:10 AMSubject: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

I'm starting to think it would be a better idea to buy one of those super blaster squirt guns and shoot off a whole bottle of insecticide up there ;]

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them using

> > > > > > > > > primarily

> > > > > > > > > > > these two products!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > They shut the road through the woods

> > > > Seventy years ago.

> > > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > > > And now you would never know

> > > > There was once a road through the woods

> > > > Before they planted the trees.

> > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > > > And the thin anemones.

> > > > Only the keeper sees

> > > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > > > There was once a road through the woods.

> > > >

> > > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > > > Of a summer evening late,

> > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > > > Because they see so few)

> > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > > > Steadily cantering through

> > > > The misty solitudes,

> > > > As though they perfectly knew

> > > > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦.

> > > > But there is no road through the woods.

> > > > *

> > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

> > > >

> > >

> >

> > --

> > They shut the road through the woods

> > Seventy years ago.

> > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > And now you would never know

> > There was once a road through the woods

> > Before they planted the trees.

> > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > And the thin anemones.

> > Only the keeper sees

> > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > There was once a road through the woods.

> >

> > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > Of a summer evening late,

> > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > Because they see so few)

> > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > Steadily cantering through

> > The misty solitudes,

> > As though they perfectly knew

> > The old lost road through the woodsÃ¢â‚¬Â¦.

> > But there is no road through the woods.

> >

> > The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

> >

>

August 9, 2011

Good! :)From: "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:05:04 AMSubject: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

Yes

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them using

> > > > > > > > > > primarily

> > > > > > > > > > > > these two products!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > They shut the road through the woods

> > > > > Seventy years ago.

> > > > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > > > > And now you would never know

> > > > > There was once a road through the woods

> > > > > Before they planted the trees.

> > > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > > > > And the thin anemones.

> > > > > Only the keeper sees

> > > > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > > > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > > > > There was once a road through the woods.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > > > > Of a summer evening late,

> > > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > > > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > > > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > > > > Because they see so few)

> > > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > > > > Steadily cantering through

> > > > > The misty solitudes,

> > > > > As though they perfectly knew

> > > > > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¦.

> > > > > But there is no road through the woods.

> > > > > *

> > > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > They shut the road through the woods

> > > Seventy years ago.

> > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > > And now you would never know

> > > There was once a road through the woods

> > > Before they planted the trees.

> > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > > And the thin anemones.

> > > Only the keeper sees

> > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > > There was once a road through the woods.

> > >

> > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > > Of a summer evening late,

> > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > > Because they see so few)

> > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > > Steadily cantering through

> > > The misty solitudes,

> > > As though they perfectly knew

> > > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦.

> > > But there is no road through the woods.

> > >

> > > The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

> > >

> >

>

August 9, 2011

Apparently zinc dietary supplements have an antifungal action.On 9 August 2011 13:13, s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Â

Aandraya,

What is it about Dr. Zhang's or Biopure formulations that make them superior?

Have been researching the subject and it appears that any allicin supplement should be enteric-coated (which I imagine they are.)

Also, this article:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11368641

states that only one garlic powder tested gave an acceptable allicin release...making me think I am looking for a needle in the haystack.

Thing is..I can't afford the nearly $150 per month it would cost to take 6 pills per day of Dr. Zhang's so I'm looking for something less expensive but that also might be effective.

Do you have any idea what that one supplement listed in that article might have been or any other thoughts on what qualities you are looking for in an allicin supplement.

This is definitely the first thing I am going to do for the bacterial infection so I want to choose well.

Thanks again!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to

> > > > > > eliminate

> > > > > > > > > > them using

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > primarily

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these two products!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely

> > > > appreciated...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > > > > > > They shut the road through the woods

> > > > > > > > > > > > Seventy years ago.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > > > > > > > > > > > And now you would never know

> > > > > > > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods

> > > > > > > > > > > > Before they planted the trees.

> > > > > > > > > > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > > > > > > > > > > > And the thin anemones.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Only the keeper sees

> > > > > > > > > > > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > > > > > > > > > > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > > > > > > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > > > > > > > > > > > Of a summer evening late,

> > > > > > > > > > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > > > > > > > > > > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > > > > > > > > > > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Because they see so few)

> > > > > > > > > > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > > > > > > > > > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Steadily cantering through

> > > > > > > > > > > > The misty solitudes,

> > > > > > > > > > > > As though they perfectly knew

> > > > > > > > > > > > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÆ’Ã†'Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢

> > > > â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒ

> > > > > > â€šÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¦.

> > > > > > > > > > > > But there is no road through the woods.

> > > > > > > > > > > > *

> > > > > > > > > > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

August 9, 2011

Sounds like you had a lovely time; you certainly must have been busy.All the bestKrysOn 9 August 2011 17:20, Aggi <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Forgot to report about our trip to the UK :-)

Been to the North/East mainly: Darlington, where Jeff's family is living at, Newcastle, Durham, Richmont, Lake District, Farn Islands and Bamborough Castle. We just had a great time and lovely weather, about 23 degrees average, mainly sunny 9 out of 10 days. Seen most of the family as well. We just had a great time !

> > >> > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them

> > >> using

> > >> > > > > > > > primarily

> > >> > > > > > > > > > these two products!

> > >> > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

> > >> > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > >

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > >

> > >> > >

> > >> > > --

> > >> > > They shut the road through the woods

> > >> > > Seventy years ago.

> > >> > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > >> > > And now you would never know

> > >> > > There was once a road through the woods

> > >> > > Before they planted the trees.

> > >> > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > >> > > And the thin anemones.

> > >> > > Only the keeper sees

> > >> > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > >> > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > >> > > There was once a road through the woods.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > >> > > Of a summer evening late,

> > >> > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > >> > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > >> > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > >> > > Because they see so few)

> > >> > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > >> > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > >> > > Steadily cantering through

> > >> > > The misty solitudes,

> > >> > > As though they perfectly knew

> > >> > > The old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.

> > >> > > But there is no road through the woods.

> > >> > > *

> > >> > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

> > >> > >

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> > > --

> > > They shut the road through the woods

> > > Seventy years ago.

> > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > > And now you would never know

> > > There was once a road through the woods

> > > Before they planted the trees.

> > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > > And the thin anemones.

> > > Only the keeper sees

> > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > > There was once a road through the woods.

> > >

> > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > > Of a summer evening late,

> > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > > Because they see so few)

> > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > > Steadily cantering through

> > > The misty solitudes,

> > > As though they perfectly knew

> > > The old lost road through the woods….

> > > But there is no road through the woods.

> > > *

> > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

> > >

> >

> > --

> > They shut the road through the woods

> > Seventy years ago.

> > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > And now you would never know

> > There was once a road through the woods

> > Before they planted the trees.

> > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > And the thin anemones.

> > Only the keeper sees

> > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > There was once a road through the woods.

> >

> > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > Of a summer evening late,

> > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > Because they see so few)

> > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > Steadily cantering through

> > The misty solitudes,

> > As though they perfectly knew

> > The old lost road through the woods….

> > But there is no road through the woods.

> > *

> > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

> >

>

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

August 9, 2011

Sounds like you had a lovely time; you certainly must have been busy.All the bestKrysOn 9 August 2011 17:20, Aggi <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Forgot to report about our trip to the UK :-)

Been to the North/East mainly: Darlington, where Jeff's family is living at, Newcastle, Durham, Richmont, Lake District, Farn Islands and Bamborough Castle. We just had a great time and lovely weather, about 23 degrees average, mainly sunny 9 out of 10 days. Seen most of the family as well. We just had a great time !

> > >> > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them

> > >> using

> > >> > > > > > > > primarily

> > >> > > > > > > > > > these two products!

> > >> > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

> > >> > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > >

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > >

> > >> > >

> > >> > > --

> > >> > > They shut the road through the woods

> > >> > > Seventy years ago.

> > >> > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > >> > > And now you would never know

> > >> > > There was once a road through the woods

> > >> > > Before they planted the trees.

> > >> > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > >> > > And the thin anemones.

> > >> > > Only the keeper sees

> > >> > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > >> > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > >> > > There was once a road through the woods.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > >> > > Of a summer evening late,

> > >> > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > >> > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > >> > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > >> > > Because they see so few)

> > >> > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > >> > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > >> > > Steadily cantering through

> > >> > > The misty solitudes,

> > >> > > As though they perfectly knew

> > >> > > The old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.

> > >> > > But there is no road through the woods.

> > >> > > *

> > >> > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

> > >> > >

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> > > --

> > > They shut the road through the woods

> > > Seventy years ago.

> > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > > And now you would never know

> > > There was once a road through the woods

> > > Before they planted the trees.

> > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > > And the thin anemones.

> > > Only the keeper sees

> > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > > There was once a road through the woods.

> > >

> > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > > Of a summer evening late,

> > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > > Because they see so few)

> > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > > Steadily cantering through

> > > The misty solitudes,

> > > As though they perfectly knew

> > > The old lost road through the woods….

> > > But there is no road through the woods.

> > > *

> > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

> > >

> >

> > --

> > They shut the road through the woods

> > Seventy years ago.

> > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > And now you would never know

> > There was once a road through the woods

> > Before they planted the trees.

> > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > And the thin anemones.

> > Only the keeper sees

> > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > There was once a road through the woods.

> >

> > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > Of a summer evening late,

> > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > Because they see so few)

> > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > Steadily cantering through

> > The misty solitudes,

> > As though they perfectly knew

> > The old lost road through the woods….

> > But there is no road through the woods.

> > *

> > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

> >

>

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

August 9, 2011

Aggi, I'd love to see a few pics! From: "Krys Brennand" <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 3:37:05 PMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

Sounds like you had a lovely time; you certainly must have been busy.All the bestKrysOn 9 August 2011 17:20, Aggi <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Forgot to report about our trip to the UK :-)

Been to the North/East mainly: Darlington, where Jeff's family is living at, Newcastle, Durham, Richmont, Lake District, Farn Islands and Bamborough Castle. We just had a great time and lovely weather, about 23 degrees average, mainly sunny 9 out of 10 days. Seen most of the family as well. We just had a great time !

> > >> > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them

> > >> using

> > >> > > > > > > > primarily

> > >> > > > > > > > > > these two products!

> > >> > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

> > >> > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > >

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > >

> > >> > >

> > >> > > --

> > >> > > They shut the road through the woods

> > >> > > Seventy years ago.

> > >> > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > >> > > And now you would never know

> > >> > > There was once a road through the woods

> > >> > > Before they planted the trees.

> > >> > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > >> > > And the thin anemones.

> > >> > > Only the keeper sees

> > >> > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > >> > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > >> > > There was once a road through the woods.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > >> > > Of a summer evening late,

> > >> > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > >> > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > >> > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > >> > > Because they see so few)

> > >> > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > >> > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > >> > > Steadily cantering through

> > >> > > The misty solitudes,

> > >> > > As though they perfectly knew

> > >> > > The old lost road through the woodsÃ¢â‚¬Â¦.

> > >> > > But there is no road through the woods.

> > >> > > *

> > >> > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

> > >> > >

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> > > --

> > > They shut the road through the woods

> > > Seventy years ago.

> > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > > And now you would never know

> > > There was once a road through the woods

> > > Before they planted the trees.

> > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > > And the thin anemones.

> > > Only the keeper sees

> > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > > There was once a road through the woods.

> > >

> > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > > Of a summer evening late,

> > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > > Because they see so few)

> > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > > Steadily cantering through

> > > The misty solitudes,

> > > As though they perfectly knew

> > > The old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.

> > > But there is no road through the woods.

> > > *

> > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

> > >

> >

> > --

> > They shut the road through the woods

> > Seventy years ago.

> > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > And now you would never know

> > There was once a road through the woods

> > Before they planted the trees.

> > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > And the thin anemones.

> > Only the keeper sees

> > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > There was once a road through the woods.

> >

> > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > Of a summer evening late,

> > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > Because they see so few)

> > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > Steadily cantering through

> > The misty solitudes,

> > As though they perfectly knew

> > The old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.

> > But there is no road through the woods.

> > *

> > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

> >

>

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

August 9, 2011

Aggi, I'd love to see a few pics! From: "Krys Brennand" <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 3:37:05 PMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

Sounds like you had a lovely time; you certainly must have been busy.All the bestKrysOn 9 August 2011 17:20, Aggi <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Forgot to report about our trip to the UK :-)

Been to the North/East mainly: Darlington, where Jeff's family is living at, Newcastle, Durham, Richmont, Lake District, Farn Islands and Bamborough Castle. We just had a great time and lovely weather, about 23 degrees average, mainly sunny 9 out of 10 days. Seen most of the family as well. We just had a great time !

> > >> > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them

> > >> using

> > >> > > > > > > > primarily

> > >> > > > > > > > > > these two products!

> > >> > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

> > >> > > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > >

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > >

> > >> > >

> > >> > > --

> > >> > > They shut the road through the woods

> > >> > > Seventy years ago.

> > >> > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > >> > > And now you would never know

> > >> > > There was once a road through the woods

> > >> > > Before they planted the trees.

> > >> > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > >> > > And the thin anemones.

> > >> > > Only the keeper sees

> > >> > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > >> > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > >> > > There was once a road through the woods.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > >> > > Of a summer evening late,

> > >> > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > >> > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > >> > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > >> > > Because they see so few)

> > >> > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > >> > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > >> > > Steadily cantering through

> > >> > > The misty solitudes,

> > >> > > As though they perfectly knew

> > >> > > The old lost road through the woodsÃ¢â‚¬Â¦.

> > >> > > But there is no road through the woods.

> > >> > > *

> > >> > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

> > >> > >

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> > > --

> > > They shut the road through the woods

> > > Seventy years ago.

> > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > > And now you would never know

> > > There was once a road through the woods

> > > Before they planted the trees.

> > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > > And the thin anemones.

> > > Only the keeper sees

> > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > > There was once a road through the woods.

> > >

> > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > > Of a summer evening late,

> > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > > Because they see so few)

> > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > > Steadily cantering through

> > > The misty solitudes,

> > > As though they perfectly knew

> > > The old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.

> > > But there is no road through the woods.

> > > *

> > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

> > >

> >

> > --

> > They shut the road through the woods

> > Seventy years ago.

> > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > And now you would never know

> > There was once a road through the woods

> > Before they planted the trees.

> > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > And the thin anemones.

> > Only the keeper sees

> > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > There was once a road through the woods.

> >

> > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > Of a summer evening late,

> > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > Because they see so few)

> > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > Steadily cantering through

> > The misty solitudes,

> > As though they perfectly knew

> > The old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.

> > But there is no road through the woods.

> > *

> > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

> >

>

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

August 10, 2011

Have tried allicin, but didnÂ´t hellp us, glad it helped you:)CeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 9:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

Allicin is an effective antimicrobial. The source does matter. I've used Dr. Zhang's allicin- hepapro.com, it's killer, 2 caps 3 x a day. Also, Biopure makes a good Allicin product. What state do you live in, I may know of practitioners in your area that are familiar with this stuff. A regular doctor or ID doctor will think you're crazy.Aandraya On Aug 8, 2011, at 1:26 PM, s.jay8383 wrote: Do I need a specialist? Problem is that I don't have health insurance and cannot afford it Do you think taking the olive leaf extract (as well as 2 cloves of garlic per day) is the next best thing? Can you advise as to any other natural remedies that may fight all "bad" bacterias? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate > > > > them using > > > > >

> > > > > > primarily > > > > > > > > > > > > > these two products! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > They shut the road through the woods > > > > > > Seventy years ago. > > > > > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > > > > > And now you would never know > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods > > > > > > Before they planted the trees. > > > > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > > > > > And the thin anemones. > > > > > > Only the keeper sees > > > > > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > > > > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > > > > > There was once a

road through the woods. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > > > > > Of a summer evening late, > > > > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > > > > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > > > > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > > > > > Because they see so few) > > > > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > > > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > > > > > Steadily cantering through > > > > > > The misty solitudes, > > > > > > As though they perfectly knew > > > > > > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÆ’Ã†'Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¦. > > > > > > But

there is no road through the woods. > > > > > > * > > > > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

August 10, 2011

Have tried allicin, but didnÂ´t hellp us, glad it helped you:)CeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 9:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

Allicin is an effective antimicrobial. The source does matter. I've used Dr. Zhang's allicin- hepapro.com, it's killer, 2 caps 3 x a day. Also, Biopure makes a good Allicin product. What state do you live in, I may know of practitioners in your area that are familiar with this stuff. A regular doctor or ID doctor will think you're crazy.Aandraya On Aug 8, 2011, at 1:26 PM, s.jay8383 wrote: Do I need a specialist? Problem is that I don't have health insurance and cannot afford it Do you think taking the olive leaf extract (as well as 2 cloves of garlic per day) is the next best thing? Can you advise as to any other natural remedies that may fight all "bad" bacterias? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate > > > > them using > > > > >

> > > > > > primarily > > > > > > > > > > > > > these two products! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > They shut the road through the woods > > > > > > Seventy years ago. > > > > > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > > > > > And now you would never know > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods > > > > > > Before they planted the trees. > > > > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > > > > > And the thin anemones. > > > > > > Only the keeper sees > > > > > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > > > > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > > > > > There was once a

road through the woods. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > > > > > Of a summer evening late, > > > > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > > > > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > > > > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > > > > > Because they see so few) > > > > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > > > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > > > > > Steadily cantering through > > > > > > The misty solitudes, > > > > > > As though they perfectly knew > > > > > > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÆ’Ã†'Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¦. > > > > > > But

there is no road through the woods. > > > > > > * > > > > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

August 10, 2011

Diatomicious earth food grade is good against mites, just mix one tablespoon with half a glass of water.Good luck!KRCeciliaFrom: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 8:26 PMSubject: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or

Roach Prufe

Do I need a specialist?

Problem is that I don't have health insurance and cannot afford it

Do you think taking the olive leaf extract (as well as 2 cloves of garlic per day) is the next best thing?

Can you advise as to any other natural remedies that may fight all "bad" bacterias?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate

> > > > them using

> > > > > > > > > > > primarily

> > > > > > > > > > > > > these two products!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --

> > > > > > They shut the road through the woods

> > > > > > Seventy years ago.

> > > > > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > > > > > And now you would never know

> > > > > > There was once a road through the woods

> > > > > > Before they planted the trees.

> > > > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > > > > > And the thin anemones.

> > > > > > Only the keeper sees

> > > > > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > > > > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > > > > > There was once a road through the woods.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > > > > > Of a summer evening late,

> > > > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > > > > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > > > > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > > > > > Because they see so few)

> > > > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > > > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > > > > > Steadily cantering through

> > > > > > The misty solitudes,

> > > > > > As though they perfectly knew

> > > > > > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÆ’Ã†'Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¦.

> > > > > > But there is no road through the woods.

> > > > > > *

> > > > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 10, 2011

Diatomicious earth food grade is good against mites, just mix one tablespoon with half a glass of water.Good luck!KRCeciliaFrom: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 8:26 PMSubject: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or

Roach Prufe

Do I need a specialist?

Problem is that I don't have health insurance and cannot afford it

Do you think taking the olive leaf extract (as well as 2 cloves of garlic per day) is the next best thing?

Can you advise as to any other natural remedies that may fight all "bad" bacterias?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate

> > > > them using

> > > > > > > > > > > primarily

> > > > > > > > > > > > > these two products!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --

> > > > > > They shut the road through the woods

> > > > > > Seventy years ago.

> > > > > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > > > > > And now you would never know

> > > > > > There was once a road through the woods

> > > > > > Before they planted the trees.

> > > > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > > > > > And the thin anemones.

> > > > > > Only the keeper sees

> > > > > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > > > > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > > > > > There was once a road through the woods.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > > > > > Of a summer evening late,

> > > > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > > > > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > > > > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > > > > > Because they see so few)

> > > > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > > > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > > > > > Steadily cantering through

> > > > > > The misty solitudes,

> > > > > > As though they perfectly knew

> > > > > > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÆ’Ã†'Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¦.

> > > > > > But there is no road through the woods.

> > > > > > *

> > > > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 10, 2011

They are very potent supps, Dr. Zhang is a well-known MD who practices and educates other practitioners on Modern Chinese Medicine. His supps are very potent. Biopure is a trustworthy source, Dr. Klinghardt uses them, and has tested these products on thousands of his patients.On Aug 9, 2011, at 1:13 PM, s.jay8383 wrote: Aandraya, What is it about Dr. Zhang's or Biopure formulations that make them superior? Have been researching the subject and it appears that any allicin supplement should be enteric-coated (which I imagine they are.) Also, this article: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11368641 states that only one garlic powder tested gave an acceptable allicin release...making me think I am looking for a needle in the haystack. Thing is..I can't afford the nearly $150 per month it would cost to take 6 pills per day of Dr. Zhang's so I'm looking for something less expensive but that also might be effective. Do you have any idea what that one supplement listed in that article might have been or any other thoughts on what qualities you are looking for in an allicin supplement. This is definitely the first thing I am going to do for the bacterial infection so I want to choose well. Thanks again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to > > > > > > eliminate > > > > > > > > > > them using > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > primarily > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these two products! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely > > > > appreciated... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > They shut the road through the woods > > > > > > > > > > > > Seventy years ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > > > > > > > > > > > And now you would never know > > > > > > > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods > > > > > > > > > > > > Before they planted the trees. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > > > > > > > > > > > And the thin anemones. > > > > > > > > > > > > Only the keeper sees > > > > > > > > > > > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > > > > > > > > > > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > > > > > > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > > > > > > > > > > > Of a summer evening late, > > > > > > > > > > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > > > > > > > > > > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > > > > > > > > > > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > > > > > > > > > > > Because they see so few) > > > > > > > > > > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > > > > > > > > > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > > > > > > > > > > > Steadily cantering through > > > > > > > > > > > > The misty solitudes, > > > > > > > > > > > > As though they perfectly knew > > > > > > > > > > > > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â > > > > ‚¬Å¡Ã > > > > > > ‚Â¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¦. > > > > > > > > > > > > But there is no road through the woods. > > > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

August 10, 2011

They are very potent supps, Dr. Zhang is a well-known MD who practices and educates other practitioners on Modern Chinese Medicine. His supps are very potent. Biopure is a trustworthy source, Dr. Klinghardt uses them, and has tested these products on thousands of his patients.On Aug 9, 2011, at 1:13 PM, s.jay8383 wrote: Aandraya, What is it about Dr. Zhang's or Biopure formulations that make them superior? Have been researching the subject and it appears that any allicin supplement should be enteric-coated (which I imagine they are.) Also, this article: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11368641 states that only one garlic powder tested gave an acceptable allicin release...making me think I am looking for a needle in the haystack. Thing is..I can't afford the nearly $150 per month it would cost to take 6 pills per day of Dr. Zhang's so I'm looking for something less expensive but that also might be effective. Do you have any idea what that one supplement listed in that article might have been or any other thoughts on what qualities you are looking for in an allicin supplement. This is definitely the first thing I am going to do for the bacterial infection so I want to choose well. Thanks again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to > > > > > > eliminate > > > > > > > > > > them using > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > primarily > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these two products! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely > > > > appreciated... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > They shut the road through the woods > > > > > > > > > > > > Seventy years ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > > > > > > > > > > > And now you would never know > > > > > > > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods > > > > > > > > > > > > Before they planted the trees. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > > > > > > > > > > > And the thin anemones. > > > > > > > > > > > > Only the keeper sees > > > > > > > > > > > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > > > > > > > > > > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > > > > > > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > > > > > > > > > > > Of a summer evening late, > > > > > > > > > > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > > > > > > > > > > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > > > > > > > > > > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > > > > > > > > > > > Because they see so few) > > > > > > > > > > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > > > > > > > > > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > > > > > > > > > > > Steadily cantering through > > > > > > > > > > > > The misty solitudes, > > > > > > > > > > > > As though they perfectly knew > > > > > > > > > > > > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â > > > > ‚¬Å¡Ã > > > > > > ‚Â¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¦. > > > > > > > > > > > > But there is no road through the woods. > > > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

August 10, 2011

The thing with Allicin is you have to take it at extremely high doses for long periods of time for it to be therapeutic. And most health food store sources are not very good. That's been my experience.On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Cecilia Borg wrote: Have tried allicin, but didn´t hellp us, glad it helped you:)CeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 9:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe Allicin is an effective antimicrobial. The source does matter. I've used Dr. Zhang's allicin- hepapro.com, it's killer, 2 caps 3 x a day. Also, Biopure makes a good Allicin product. What state do you live in, I may know of practitioners in your area that are familiar with this stuff. A regular doctor or ID doctor will think you're crazy.Aandraya On Aug 8, 2011, at 1:26 PM, s.jay8383 wrote: Do I need a specialist? Problem is that I don't have health insurance and cannot afford it Do you think taking the olive leaf extract (as well as 2 cloves of garlic per day) is the next best thing? Can you advise as to any other natural remedies that may fight all "bad" bacterias? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate > > > > them using > > > > > > > > > > > primarily > > > > > > > > > > > > > these two products! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > They shut the road through the woods > > > > > > Seventy years ago. > > > > > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > > > > > And now you would never know > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods > > > > > > Before they planted the trees. > > > > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > > > > > And the thin anemones. > > > > > > Only the keeper sees > > > > > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > > > > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > > > > > Of a summer evening late, > > > > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > > > > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > > > > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > > > > > Because they see so few) > > > > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > > > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > > > > > Steadily cantering through > > > > > > The misty solitudes, > > > > > > As though they perfectly knew > > > > > > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¦. > > > > > > But there is no road through the woods. > > > > > > * > > > > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

August 10, 2011

I have Dr. Zhang's book about Lyme disease treatment. Great book, but I didn't do Chinese medicine treatment. A friend gave me the book. L.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 11:10:25 AMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

They are very potent supps, Dr. Zhang is a well-known MD who practices and educates other practitioners on Modern Chinese Medicine. His supps are very potent. Biopure is a trustworthy source, Dr. Klinghardt uses them, and has tested these products on thousands of his patients.On Aug 9, 2011, at 1:13 PM, s.jay8383 wrote: Aandraya, What is it about Dr. Zhang's or Biopure formulations that make them superior? Have been researching the subject and it appears that any allicin supplement should be enteric-coated (which I imagine they are.) Also, this article: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11368641 states that only one garlic powder tested gave an acceptable allicin release...making me think I am looking for a needle in the haystack. Thing is..I can't afford the nearly $150 per month it would cost to take 6 pills per day of Dr. Zhang's so I'm looking for something less expensive but that also might be effective. Do you have any idea what that one supplement listed in that article might have been or any other thoughts on what qualities you are looking for in an allicin supplement. This is definitely the first thing I am going to do for the bacterial infection so I want to choose well. Thanks again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to > > > > > > eliminate > > > > > > > > > > them using > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > primarily > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these two products! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely > > > > appreciated... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > They shut the road through the woods > > > > > > > > > > > > Seventy years ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > > > > > > > > > > > And now you would never know > > > > > > > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods > > > > > > > > > > > > Before they planted the trees. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > > > > > > > > > > > And the thin anemones. > > > > > > > > > > > > Only the keeper sees > > > > > > > > > > > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > > > > > > > > > > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > > > > > > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > > > > > > > > > > > Of a summer evening late, > > > > > > > > > > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > > > > > > > > > > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > > > > > > > > > > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > > > > > > > > > > > Because they see so few) > > > > > > > > > > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > > > > > > > > > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > > > > > > > > > > > Steadily cantering through > > > > > > > > > > > > The misty solitudes, > > > > > > > > > > > > As though they perfectly knew > > > > > > > > > > > > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÆ’Ã†'Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢ > > > > â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒ > > > > > > â€šÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¦. > > > > > > > > > > > > But there is no road through the woods. > > > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

August 10, 2011

My first Lyme literate doc treated me with antibiotics and Zhang's stuff at the same time. It's expensive but good stuff. I took his Artemisinin for Babesia and parasites, Houtnuia for Bartonella, and Allicin that kills everything.Aandraya On Aug 10, 2011, at 7:28 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I have Dr. Zhang's book about Lyme disease treatment. Great book, but I didn't do Chinese medicine treatment. A friend gave me the book. L.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 11:10:25 AMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

They are very potent supps, Dr. Zhang is a well-known MD who practices and educates other practitioners on Modern Chinese Medicine. His supps are very potent. Biopure is a trustworthy source, Dr. Klinghardt uses them, and has tested these products on thousands of his patients.On Aug 9, 2011, at 1:13 PM, s.jay8383 wrote: Aandraya, What is it about Dr. Zhang's or Biopure formulations that make them superior? Have been researching the subject and it appears that any allicin supplement should be enteric-coated (which I imagine they are.) Also, this article: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11368641 states that only one garlic powder tested gave an acceptable allicin release...making me think I am looking for a needle in the haystack. Thing is..I can't afford the nearly $150 per month it would cost to take 6 pills per day of Dr. Zhang's so I'm looking for something less expensive but that also might be effective. Do you have any idea what that one supplement listed in that article might have been or any other thoughts on what qualities you are looking for in an allicin supplement. This is definitely the first thing I am going to do for the bacterial infection so I want to choose well. Thanks again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to > > > > > > eliminate > > > > > > > > > > them using > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > primarily > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these two products! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely > > > > appreciated... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > They shut the road through the woods > > > > > > > > > > > > Seventy years ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > > > > > > > > > > > And now you would never know > > > > > > > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods > > > > > > > > > > > > Before they planted the trees. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > > > > > > > > > > > And the thin anemones. > > > > > > > > > > > > Only the keeper sees > > > > > > > > > > > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > > > > > > > > > > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > > > > > > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > > > > > > > > > > > Of a summer evening late, > > > > > > > > > > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > > > > > > > > > > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > > > > > > > > > > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > > > > > > > > > > > Because they see so few) > > > > > > > > > > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > > > > > > > > > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > > > > > > > > > > > Steadily cantering through > > > > > > > > > > > > The misty solitudes, > > > > > > > > > > > > As though they perfectly knew > > > > > > > > > > > > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÆ’Ã†'Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢ > > > > â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒ > > > > > > â€šÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¦. > > > > > > > > > > > > But there is no road through the woods. > > > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

August 11, 2011

We took allimeds Allicin in high doses for 3 months, would you say that is not enough or that the brand is not good?KRCeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach

Prufe

The thing with Allicin is you have to take it at extremely high doses for long periods of time for it to be therapeutic. And most health food store sources are not very good. That's been my experience.On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Cecilia Borg wrote: Have tried allicin, but didnÂ´t hellp us, glad it helped you:)CeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 9:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe Allicin is an effective antimicrobial. The source does matter. I've used Dr. Zhang's allicin- hepapro.com, it's killer, 2 caps 3 x a day. Also, Biopure makes a good Allicin product. What state do

you live in, I may know of practitioners in your area that are familiar with this stuff. A regular doctor or ID doctor will think you're crazy.Aandraya On Aug 8, 2011, at 1:26 PM, s.jay8383 wrote: Do I need a specialist? Problem is that I don't have health insurance and cannot afford it Do you think taking the olive leaf extract (as well as 2 cloves of garlic per day) is the next best thing? Can you advise as to any other natural remedies that may fight all "bad" bacterias? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate > > > > them using > > > > > > > > > > > primarily > > > > > > > > > > > > > these two products! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > They shut the road through the

woods > > > > > > Seventy years ago. > > > > > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > > > > > And now you would never know > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods > > > > > > Before they planted the trees. > > > > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > > > > > And the thin anemones. > > > > > > Only the keeper sees > > > > > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > > > > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > > > > > Of a summer evening late, > > > > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed

pools > > > > > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > > > > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > > > > > Because they see so few) > > > > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > > > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > > > > > Steadily cantering through > > > > > > The misty solitudes, > > > > > > As though they perfectly knew > > > > > > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÆ’Ã†'Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¦. > > > > > > But there is no road through the woods. > > > > > > * > > > > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

August 11, 2011

I'm pretty sure it's a good product. Again, high doses to treat chronic infections we're talking minimum 2 caps 3 x a day. I doubt 3 months is long enough, these infections are persistent. You literally have to wreak of garlic and have it coming out of your pours for it to be effective. Dr. Zhang saved his dieing son by giving intravenous Allicin. I would do the high dose allicin if my insurance covered it, because at such high doses it's expensive. Another natural antimicrobial you might consider that kills fungi and parasites is Artemisinin, 1- 100mg cap 3 x a day for several months. I have used Dr. Zhang's- Hepapro sells it, I've also used Biopure's in powder form, Allergy Research Group has a good product as well. Artemisinin will cause a strong herx.AandrayaOn Aug 11, 2011, at 1:01 AM, Cecilia Borg wrote: We took allimeds Allicin in high doses for 3 months, would you say that is not enough or that the brand is not good?KRCeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe The thing with Allicin is you have to take it at extremely high doses for long periods of time for it to be therapeutic. And most health food store sources are not very good. That's been my experience.On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Cecilia Borg wrote: Have tried allicin, but didn´t hellp us, glad it helped you:)CeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 9:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe Allicin is an effective antimicrobial. The source does matter. I've used Dr. Zhang's allicin- hepapro.com, it's killer, 2 caps 3 x a day. Also, Biopure makes a good Allicin product. What state do you live in, I may know of practitioners in your area that are familiar with this stuff. A regular doctor or ID doctor will think you're crazy.Aandraya On Aug 8, 2011, at 1:26 PM, s.jay8383 wrote: Do I need a specialist? Problem is that I don't have health insurance and cannot afford it Do you think taking the olive leaf extract (as well as 2 cloves of garlic per day) is the next best thing? Can you advise as to any other natural remedies that may fight all "bad" bacterias? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate > > > > them using > > > > > > > > > > > primarily > > > > > > > > > > > > > these two products! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > They shut the road through the woods > > > > > > Seventy years ago. > > > > > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > > > > > And now you would never know > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods > > > > > > Before they planted the trees. > > > > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > > > > > And the thin anemones. > > > > > > Only the keeper sees > > > > > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > > > > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > > > > > Of a summer evening late, > > > > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > > > > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > > > > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > > > > > Because they see so few) > > > > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > > > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > > > > > Steadily cantering through > > > > > > The misty solitudes, > > > > > > As though they perfectly knew > > > > > > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¦. > > > > > > But there is no road through the woods. > > > > > > * > > > > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

August 12, 2011

THanks for your input. So maby the time we used it was too short... It was very expensive so we couldnÂ´t go on forever and didnÂ´t notice any difference, so thatÂ´s why we stopped using it.KRCeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:51 PMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had

success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

I'm pretty sure it's a good product. Again, high doses to treat chronic infections we're talking minimum 2 caps 3 x a day. I doubt 3 months is long enough, these infections are persistent. You literally have to wreak of garlic and have it coming out of your pours for it to be effective. Dr. Zhang saved his dieing son by giving intravenous Allicin. I would do the high dose allicin if my insurance covered it, because at such high doses it's expensive. Another natural antimicrobial you might consider that kills fungi and parasites is Artemisinin, 1- 100mg cap 3 x a day for several months. I have used Dr. Zhang's- Hepapro sells it, I've also used Biopure's in powder form, Allergy Research Group has a good product as well. Artemisinin will cause a strong herx.AandrayaOn Aug 11, 2011, at 1:01

AM, Cecilia Borg wrote: We took allimeds Allicin in high doses for 3 months, would you say that is not enough or that the brand is not good?KRCeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe The thing with Allicin is you have to take it at extremely high doses for long periods of time for it to be therapeutic. And most health food store sources are not very good. That's been my experience.On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Cecilia Borg wrote: Have tried allicin, but didnÂ´t hellp us, glad it helped you:)CeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday,

August 8, 2011 9:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe Allicin is an effective antimicrobial. The source does matter. I've used Dr. Zhang's allicin- hepapro.com, it's killer, 2 caps 3 x a day. Also, Biopure makes a good Allicin product. What state do you live in, I may know of practitioners in your area that are familiar with this stuff. A regular doctor or ID doctor will think you're crazy.Aandraya On Aug 8, 2011, at 1:26 PM, s.jay8383 wrote: Do I need a specialist? Problem is that

I don't have health insurance and cannot afford it Do you think taking the olive leaf extract (as well as 2 cloves of garlic per day) is the next best thing? Can you advise as to any other natural remedies that may fight all "bad" bacterias? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate > > > > them using > > > > > > > > > > > primarily > > > > > > > > > > > > > these two products! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > They shut the road through the woods > > > > > > Seventy years ago. > > > > > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > > > > > And now you would never know > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods > > > > > > Before they planted the trees. > > > > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > >

> > > > And the thin anemones. > > > > > > Only the keeper sees > > > > > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > > > > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > > > > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > > > > > Of a summer evening late, > > > > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > > > > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > > > > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > > > > > Because they see so few) > > > > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > > > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > > > > > Steadily cantering through > > >

> > > The misty solitudes, > > > > > > As though they perfectly knew > > > > > > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÆ’Ã†'Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¦. > > > > > > But there is no road through the woods. > > > > > > * > > > > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

August 14, 2011

Roach Prufe is a treated boric acid that sticks to stuff better than regular boric acid. I don't know that it kills any better. I buy Eaton's boric acid at roughly $30 for a 5 lb tub, but you can get it in a 25-lb tub too. That is what I use in my enviro spray. (See new thread which I will post right after this one.) Eaton's is easy to find with a Google search. I also have a link to it at Morjella.com.kajayFrom: Benton

<sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 11:31 PMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

I'm the, "I found it, I'll buy it" person. I don't do the intense research , Kajay and the others do. I pass this one to them.

Love and light,

From: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>Subject: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufebird mites Date: Monday, August 8, 2011, 12:54 AM

500 mg x 3?Is there anything special I should look for when choosing a brand?> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate > > > >> them using> > > >> > > > > > > > > primarily> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > these two products!> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated...> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >>

> > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > >> > > > They shut the road through the woods> > > >> > > > Seventy years ago.> > > >> > > > Weather and rain have undone it again,> > > >> > > > And now you would never know> > > >> > > > There was once a road through the woods> > > >> > > > Before they planted

the trees.> > > >> > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,> > > >> > > > And the thin anemones.> > > >> > > > Only the keeper sees> > > >> > > > That, where the ring-dove broods,> > > >> > > > And the badgers roll at ease,> > > >> > > > There was once a road through the woods.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Yet, if you enter the woods> > > >> > > > Of a summer evening late,> > > >> > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools> > > >> > > > Where the otter whistles his mate.> > > >> > > > (They fear not men in the woods,> > > >> > > > Because they see so few)> > >

>> > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,> > > >> > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,> > > >> > > > Steadily cantering through> > > >> > > > The misty solitudes,> > > >> > > > As though they perfectly knew> > > >> > > > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦.> > > >> > > > But there is no road through the woods.> > > >> > > > *> > > >> > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > --> > > >>

> They shut the road through the woods> > > >> > Seventy years ago.> > > >> > Weather and rain have undone it again,> > > >> > And now you would never know> > > >> > There was once a road through the woods> > > >> > Before they planted the trees.> > > >> > It is underneath the coppice and heath,> > > >> > And the thin anemones.> > > >> > Only the keeper sees> > > >> > That, where the ring-dove broods,> > > >> > And the badgers roll at ease,> > > >> > There was once a road through the woods.> > > >> >> > > >> > Yet, if you enter the woods> > > >> > Of a summer evening late,> > > >> > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed

pools> > > >> > Where the otter whistles his mate.> > > >> > (They fear not men in the woods,> > > >> > Because they see so few)> > > >> > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,> > > >> > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,> > > >> > Steadily cantering through> > > >> > The misty solitudes,> > > >> > As though they perfectly knew> > > >> > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦.> > > >> > But there is no road through the woods.> > > >> > *> > > >> > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> -- > > >

>> They shut the road through the woods> > > >> Seventy years ago.> > > >> Weather and rain have undone it again,> > > >> And now you would never know> > > >> There was once a road through the woods> > > >> Before they planted the trees.> > > >> It is underneath the coppice and heath,> > > >> And the thin anemones.> > > >> Only the keeper sees> > > >> That, where the ring-dove broods,> > > >> And the badgers roll at ease,> > > >> There was once a road through the woods.> > > >>> > > >> Yet, if you enter the woods> > > >> Of a summer evening late,> > > >> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools> > > >> Where the otter whistles his

mate.> > > >> (They fear not men in the woods,> > > >> Because they see so few)> > > >> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,> > > >> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,> > > >> Steadily cantering through> > > >> The misty solitudes,> > > >> As though they perfectly knew> > > >> The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦.> > > >> But there is no road through the woods.> > > >>> > > >> The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling> > > >> > > >> > >> >>

August 14, 2011

Hi

Roach prufe is very very nasty on lungs , I only could do 1 room before I fled

an returned with 1 up of epsom ol & 48 o o water in a sprayer and srayed a

huge lock down mist on the whole room and it stopped the nasty nasty

chokinggagging dust , otherwise it was great & probally works good to kill bugs

..

God bless you,

Bill

ps baking sodau poofed at cieling & let fall stops all bugs instantly , I repeat

weekly , bugs are at almost zero

On Sun Aug 14th, 2011 4:51 PM EDT Kajay109 wrote:

>Roach Prufe is a treated boric acid that sticks to stuff better than regular

boric acid. I don't know that it kills any better. I buy Eaton's boric acid at

roughly $30 for a 5 lb tub, but you can get it in a 25-lb tub too. That is what

I use in my enviro spray. (See new thread which I will post right after this

one.)Â

>

>Eaton's is easy to find with a Google search. I also have a link to it at

Morjella.com.

>

>kajay

>

>________________________________

>From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 11:31 PM

>Subject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or

Roach Prufe

>

>Â

>I'm the, " I found it, I'll buy it " person.Â I don't do the intense research

, Kajay and the others do.Â I pass this one to them.

>Love and light,

>Â Â

>

>>From: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>

>>Subject: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or

Roach Prufe

>>bird mites

>>Date: Monday, August 8, 2011, 12:54 AM

>>

>>Â

>>500 mg x 3?

>>

>>Is there anything special I should look for when choosing a brand?

>>

>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate

>>> > > >> them using

>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > primarily

>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > these two products!

>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > >

>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >

>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >

>>>

> > > >> > > > > > > >

>>> > > >> > > > > > >

>>> > > >> > > > > >

>>> > > >> > > > >

>>> > > >> > > >

>>> > > >> > > > --

>>> > > >> > > > They shut the road through the woods

>>> > > >> > > > Seventy years ago.

>>> > > >> > > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

>>> > > >> > > > And now you would never know

>>> > > >> > > > There was once a road through the woods

>>> > > >> > > > Before they planted

> the trees.

>>> > > >> > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

>>> > > >> > > > And the thin anemones.

>>> > > >> > > > Only the keeper sees

>>> > > >> > > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

>>> > > >> > > > And the badgers roll at ease,

>>> > > >> > > > There was once a road through the woods.

>>> > > >> > > >

>>> > > >> > > > Yet, if you enter the woods

>>> > > >> > > > Of a summer evening late,

>>> > > >> > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

>>> > > >> > > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

>>> > > >> > > > (They fear not men in the woods,

>>> > > >> > > > Because they see so few)

>>> > >

> >> > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>>> > > >> > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

>>> > > >> > > > Steadily cantering through

>>> > > >> > > > The misty solitudes,

>>> > > >> > > > As though they perfectly knew

>>> > > >> > > > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦.

>>> > > >> > > > But there is no road through the woods.

>>> > > >> > > > *

>>> > > >> > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>>> > > >> > > >

>>> > > >> > >

>>> > > >> >

>>> > > >> > --

>>> > > >>

> > They shut the road through the woods

>>> > > >> > Seventy years ago.

>>> > > >> > Weather and rain have undone it again,

>>> > > >> > And now you would never know

>>> > > >> > There was once a road through the woods

>>> > > >> > Before they planted the trees.

>>> > > >> > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

>>> > > >> > And the thin anemones.

>>> > > >> > Only the keeper sees

>>> > > >> > That, where the ring-dove broods,

>>> > > >> > And the badgers roll at ease,

>>> > > >> > There was once a road through the woods.

>>> > > >> >

>>> > > >> > Yet, if you enter the woods

>>> > > >> > Of a summer evening late,

>>> > > >> > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed

> pools

>>> > > >> > Where the otter whistles his mate.

>>> > > >> > (They fear not men in the woods,

>>> > > >> > Because they see so few)

>>> > > >> > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>>> > > >> > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

>>> > > >> > Steadily cantering through

>>> > > >> > The misty solitudes,

>>> > > >> > As though they perfectly knew

>>> > > >> > The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦.

>>> > > >> > But there is no road through the woods.

>>> > > >> > *

>>> > > >> > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>>> > > >> >

>>> > > >>

>>> > > >> --

>>> > >

> >> They shut the road through the woods

>>> > > >> Seventy years ago.

>>> > > >> Weather and rain have undone it again,

>>> > > >> And now you would never know

>>> > > >> There was once a road through the woods

>>> > > >> Before they planted the trees.

>>> > > >> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

>>> > > >> And the thin anemones.

>>> > > >> Only the keeper sees

>>> > > >> That, where the ring-dove broods,

>>> > > >> And the badgers roll at ease,

>>> > > >> There was once a road through the woods.

>>> > > >>

>>> > > >> Yet, if you enter the woods

>>> > > >> Of a summer evening late,

>>> > > >> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

>>> > > >> Where the otter whistles his

> mate.

>>> > > >> (They fear not men in the woods,

>>> > > >> Because they see so few)

>>> > > >> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>>> > > >> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

>>> > > >> Steadily cantering through

>>> > > >> The misty solitudes,

>>> > > >> As though they perfectly knew

>>> > > >> The old lost road through the woodsÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦.

>>> > > >> But there is no road through the woods.

>>> > > >>

>>> > > >> The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

>>> > > >

>>> > >

>>> >

>>>

>>

>

September 29, 2011

Yep, yep, and yep.

kajay

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 3:36 PMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

Aandraya,

I wish I knew the answer to that. I don't know what the fibers are, but they are PROFUSE. I've heard that the fibers are 1) alive, 2) some sort of plastic or silicone, 3) unidentifiable material... I don't what to believe. One Morgellons doctor did believe that the fibers were living entities. I looked at many of them under scope and had hundreds of photos, but that doctor looked at them under 2000x power and my scope only went to 1000x. He said he could actually see sexual organs... I can't remember his name right off, but recently passed away I believe. I thought I saw growth in the fibers when I looked at the same slides months later, but I never saw any babies popping out of the fibers in the emersion oil. I've heard other people say they feel the fibers are being sucked into the skin and I saw that happen on my skin a few times. Black fiber on hand disappeared into the skin while I was

watching it and it happened again on the opposite hand. So you are correct, this does happen. I cut some of those little pills off my underwear with a little device--I told you already about that. Still do it.

From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 10:27:54 AMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

LInda-

What do you think the little pills on the fabric are- fungus or insects? I could never get my head around that. I do know that something was attaching to the fibers in my clothing and taking it into my skin.

I think being in the sun this summer is helping to eradicate the fungus in my skin. Soon I'm going to do a trial run of Voriconazole instead of Itraconazole, see if I can hit this stuff in a big way.

Aandraya

On Aug 8, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Whatever we can do to remove moisture from the house is good; I can see why people initially use papertowels and disposable sheets (Kajay). Everything we had went into plastic bags for the first year after washing and drying and in my case, pressing with steam press. I'm realizing that the pressing helped to get rid of the molds that got on the clothing too or histoplasmosis, or Herpes viruses. Borax was a necessity and still use it along with Arm and Hammer detergent unscented. Everything is dried on "high" in dryer and high in washer. I did buy satin (inexpensive) sheets and pillow cases but they generate heat in the body and slip around on the bed as if in a vat of butter - so many things didn't quite work out and I tossed, but we all keep (or kept) trying to see what works.

One day, maybe through someone like Kajay, there will be a magazine or book or journal outlining the best of the best procedures, products and techniques to fit multiple situations for most people with multiple bugs and various organisms. I am praying for that.

From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 8:27:12 AMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

I agree, those are good ideas. When I was in the midst of this I used paper towels only to dry myself after a shower. I got rid of or put in plastic bags all things made of fabric or paper. I covered my bed with plastic and used a nylon shower curtain for a cover, even found a nylon/polyester pillow cover. Wash everything after wearing it once with the hottest water possible and Dr. Bonner's peppermint soap and Borax and dry everything on high heat in the dryer.

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On Aug 8, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Those are fantastic ideas. We use utility towels for showers or baths which are slightly larger than a hand towel and they are thin (Target). Those are washed and dried the same day - we keep the fan on in the bathroom for 1/2 hour at least to get all moisture out. All these ideas help to keep the rest of the house freer from molds. I dry sinks out too and try not to leave too much water in the shower on the walls and wipe off with towel after I've finished with it. Thanks .

From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 5:27:12 AMSubject: Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

I bought a rack from Walmart and immediately hang my wet towel on it when done. I wash 6 towels at a time in the dryer, but none of them grow mold as they have time to dry out quickly. I replace my shower liner every 2 weeks with the cheap ones they sell for $2.50. I bought a small hand squeeze from Lowes and keep it in my bathroom. After a shower, I squeeze the bottom of the tub with 2 swipes so it will dry quickly. I bought a cheap suction soap dish from the dollar store, and stick it on the side of my tube to hold the curtain out when I am finished so the curtain doesn't fold and can dry quickly.

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One thing is sticking out in my memory.My ex left a wet towel hanging in the shower when I was gone. When I came back from traveling the shower curtain liners were covered with mold. I was so exhausted I slept in my bedroom that night before changing them out.Do you think that fungus could have initiated the problem?If so, how do I eradicate the airborne spores? It has been a while...> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Rita

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