Re: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

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Jay-How long have you had the birdmite problem?On Aug 5, 2011, at 8:20 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Anyone?

Really want to buy one of these concentrated insecticides before the weekend ends as I have to try something...

Thinking Tempo SC Ultra might be the one...

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> Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them using primarily these two products!

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> Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

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In my experience insecticides do not do anything for these bugs. I found enzymatic cleaners to be helpful, a dehumidifier, and diatomaceous earth.On Aug 5, 2011, at 8:20 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Anyone?

Really want to buy one of these concentrated insecticides before the weekend ends as I have to try something...

Thinking Tempo SC Ultra might be the one...

>

> Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them using primarily these two products!

>

> Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

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Etixazole was designed as a miticide. The above paper shows its efficacy on bird mites (red poultry mites). It can be found in a product called TetraSan. It is an growth regulator & does not kill the adult mites but it is said to kill all lava & eggs for 5 months. Many miticides kill adults but eggs hatching is a problem. If they do not multiply for 5 months maybe you could fnd something to kill the adults.

On 5 August 2011 21:30, s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

 

1 month or so.

Thanks again for any insight..

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> > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them using primarily

> > these two products!

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> > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

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-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

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Laboratory study of efficacy of etoxazole against red poultry mite.pdf

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Brilliant Aggi. I really agree with the timing... because they hide during the day. From: "Aggi" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 6:40:16 PMSubject: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

Hi SJay,

If you are dealing with mites, insecticides will most probably not work on them. Mites do belong to the group arachnid. I have been most succesful by washing the whole house with Lysol and vacuum cleaning as much as possible, but never before 5 p.m. Also, any kind of sulfur products internally and externally did help tremendously.

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> > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them using primarily these two products!

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Couldn´t see what products you ment..CeciliaFrom: s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 3:20 AMSubject: Re: Anyone had success with Tempo SC Ultra and/or Roach Prufe

Anyone?

Really want to buy one of these concentrated insecticides before the weekend ends as I have to try something...

Thinking Tempo SC Ultra might be the one...

>

> Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them using primarily these two products!

>

> Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

>

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Tempo SC Ultra, does not claim to kill mites (or ticks) on its label, (though it does apparently kill spiders)We can look at the pesticides n the data sheets.http://www.backedbybayer.com/BAYER/CropScience/BackedByBayer.nsf/5E5D88EE85F2E7E9852572F80063BEDF/$FILE/tempo_sc_ultra_insecticide_29aug2008.pdf

beta-Cyfluthrin is the insecticide used, so you could do a search on beta-Cyfluthrin to see whether it is considered to be effective against mites. or if you already have the products why not try it & see.?

Good luckKrysOn 5 August 2011 23:16, s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

 

Thanks for the info!

Do you think this could be mixed with Tempo SC Ultra and sprayed at the same time?

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> > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them using primarily

> > > > these two products!

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> > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

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> They shut the road through the woods

> Seventy years ago.

> Weather and rain have undone it again,

> And now you would never know

> There was once a road through the woods

> Before they planted the trees.

> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> And the thin anemones.

> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,

> And the badgers roll at ease,

> There was once a road through the woods.

>

> Yet, if you enter the woods

> Of a summer evening late,

> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.

> (They fear not men in the woods,

> Because they see so few)

> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,

> As though they perfectly knew

> The old lost road through the woods….

> But there is no road through the woods.

> *

> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

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S.Jay-Have you noticed anything coming out of your skin, especially where the lesions are?On Aug 5, 2011, at 9:30 PM, s.jay8383 wrote: 1 month or so. Thanks again for any insight.. > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them using primarily > > these two products! > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated... > > > > > > > >

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Hi

Rita used the Tempo SC she said it worked the best for the environment , it

contains a nasty chemical with major dangers to people , plants & fish & animals

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I woulld not breathe it ,

Here is Rita's post she told me I could repost

-----Original Message-----

From: Rita and Mike Carlson

Date: 4/24/10 11:24 am

Bill

Subj: Re: To help Maurarite..........

I'm so sorry that she is in the middle of this nightmare......I hope she can

find the strength to not give up......there is light at the end of the

tunnel. Since I unsubscribed from the forum I can't post any more but it

might help her to know that the Tempo SC has seemed to kill all the ones

that were in my yard. 2 weeks ago I went out with a rake and I raked up all

the pine needles that the tree had dropped last fall. I raked right down to

the dirt. I took out 8 wheel barrels of pine needles because out side of a

yard man mowing it for me....I have not touched my yard in 3 years. This

area was where one of my bird feeders were and I couldn't go near that area

last summer. After I finished raking I came inside, put my clothes that I

was working in straight in to the washing machine to wash and ran to the

shower. I put the benzoyl peroxide all over me, let that dry and then put

the coconut oil on. Bill..........I had no skin reaction from working in the

yard. Here is my spraying schedule for the yard and house...... For the yard

I sprayed Sept. 10th.....Oct. 17 then again Oct. 24th....then Nov. 5th and

Nov. 12....we had snow fall after the last spraying so I stopped spraying

for the winter. We had a really cold winter. I also sprayed all the out

side of my house at these same spraying times being careful to go around the

foundation, doors and windows really well. Then I sprayed inside my house on

these dates: Nov. 2nd - 12 - 22nd....sprayed basement Oct. 24 - 4th ....Nov.

12th - 22nd....Jan 1st & 16th. The instructions on the Tempo bottle says

that this is sprayed in restaurants, nursing homes and day care centers.

Once the Tempo is dry pets and children can come right back in. The Tempo

has no smell and can not be seen. The instructions say to keep spraying

every 7 days until you no longer feel you have an infestation. This

insecticide has help others get rid of the infestations with these

" things " ......I hope it helps others. I will keep her in my

prayers.......oh....we also mixed the Tempo double strength.....that might

help people who live in places like Florida where the ground doesn't freeze.

Rita

End of PASTED POST

God bless you ,

Bill

On Sat Aug 6th, 2011 10:15 AM EDT Krys Brennand wrote:

>Tempo SC Ultra, does not claim to kill mites (or ticks) on its label,

>(though it does apparently kill spiders)

>

>We can look at the pesticides n the data sheets.

>http://www.backedbybayer.com/BAYER/CropScience/BackedByBayer.nsf/5E5D88EE85F2E7\

E9852572F80063BEDF/$FILE/tempo_sc_ultra_insecticide_29aug2008.pdf

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>beta-Cyfluthrin is the insecticide used, so you could do a search on

>beta-Cyfluthrin to see whether it is considered to be effective against

>mites.

>or if you already have the products why not try it & see.?

>

>Good luck

>Krys

>

>

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>On 5 August 2011 23:16, s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

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>> Thanks for the info!

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>> Do you think this could be mixed with Tempo SC Ultra and sprayed at the

>> same time?

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>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them using primarily

>> > > > > these two products!

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>> > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

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>> > They shut the road through the woods

>> > Seventy years ago.

>> > Weather and rain have undone it again,

>> > And now you would never know

>> > There was once a road through the woods

>> > Before they planted the trees.

>> > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

>> > And the thin anemones.

>> > Only the keeper sees

>> > That, where the ring-dove broods,

>> > And the badgers roll at ease,

>> > There was once a road through the woods.

>> >

>> > Yet, if you enter the woods

>> > Of a summer evening late,

>> > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

>> > Where the otter whistles his mate.

>> > (They fear not men in the woods,

>> > Because they see so few)

>> > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>> > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

>> > Steadily cantering through

>> > The misty solitudes,

>> > As though they perfectly knew

>> > The old lost road through the woods….

>> > But there is no road through the woods.

>> > *

>> > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>> >

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>They shut the road through the woods

>Seventy years ago.

>Weather and rain have undone it again,

>And now you would never know

>There was once a road through the woods

>Before they planted the trees.

>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

>And the thin anemones.

>Only the keeper sees

>That, where the ring-dove broods,

>And the badgers roll at ease,

>There was once a road through the woods.

>

>Yet, if you enter the woods

>Of a summer evening late,

>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

>Where the otter whistles his mate.

>(They fear not men in the woods,

>Because they see so few)

>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

>Steadily cantering through

>The misty solitudes,

>As though they perfectly knew

>The old lost road through the woods….

>But there is no road through the woods.

>*

>The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

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The skin granules are due to fungal/bacterial infections. I'm very familiar with them. You need to start treatment or things will get worse. On Aug 6, 2011, at 5:45 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Thanks for all of your thoughts.

No I have not...I find them white-ish granules on me all the time mostly at night...near my ears / nose / eyebrows / eyes / mouth...especially when it is humid..

Driving in my truck in a traffic jam and it felt like I was being attacked at the face with these things....they were all over me

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> > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them using

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> > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

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The specks you are seeing are not the bugs, they are different kinds of fungus and/or agrobacterium and probably connected to tick borne bacterial infections. Have you ever found a tick attached to you? Not that you would necessarily know if you'd had one, most don't know when they got infected.On Aug 6, 2011, at 7:10 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

So are you saying that these are coming from inside my body?

Why are they so localized to different areas then?

I thought these were nymph bird mites attempting to enter my orifices?

I have seen A LOT less black pepper ones and mostly white these days...and was thinking that they were babies...now you have me wondering if it is something else.

What do you think these granules could be if they are not nymph bird mites?

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Yes, the infection is in your body, the specks will start showing up in other places od the body with time.On Aug 6, 2011, at 7:10 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

So are you saying that these are coming from inside my body?

Why are they so localized to different areas then?

I thought these were nymph bird mites attempting to enter my orifices?

I have seen A LOT less black pepper ones and mostly white these days...and was thinking that they were babies...now you have me wondering if it is something else.

What do you think these granules could be if they are not nymph bird mites?

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> > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them using

> > > > primarily

> > > > > > these two products!

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> > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

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When you say granules, can you feel them like a tiny grain, are they hard? I ask because bird mites (in particular northern fowl mite) are sometimes likened, in appearance, to grains of pepper & mite nymphs would be light coloured, white/transparent, but they are not granular & they do move, albeit pretty slowly.

On 6 August 2011 19:10, s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

 

So are you saying that these are coming from inside my body?

Why are they so localized to different areas then?

I thought these were nymph bird mites attempting to enter my orifices?

I have seen A LOT less black pepper ones and mostly white these days...and was thinking that they were babies...now you have me wondering if it is something else.

What do you think these granules could be if they are not nymph bird mites?

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> > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them using

> > > > primarily

> > > > > > these two products!

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> > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

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-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

[Guest guest]

Bird mites carry many types of bacteria. Infection from mites, fungus, bacteria & some very small insects seem to be linked.If you see bird mites you can see them move. If you see specks & don't move they are probably not mites.

On 6 August 2011 19:57, s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

 

Perhaps I have bird mites AND a bacterial infection?

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> --

> They shut the road through the woods

> Seventy years ago.

> Weather and rain have undone it again,

> And now you would never know

> There was once a road through the woods

> Before they planted the trees.

> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> And the thin anemones.

> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,

> And the badgers roll at ease,

> There was once a road through the woods.

>

> Yet, if you enter the woods

> Of a summer evening late,

> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.

> (They fear not men in the woods,

> Because they see so few)

> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,

> As though they perfectly knew

> The old lost road through the woods….

> But there is no road through the woods.

> *

> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

[Guest guest]

Bird mites carry many types of bacteria. Infection from mites, fungus, bacteria & some very small insects seem to be linked.If you see bird mites you can see them move. If you see specks & don't move they are probably not mites.

On 6 August 2011 19:57, s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

 

Perhaps I have bird mites AND a bacterial infection?

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> > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them using

> > > > > > primarily

> > > > > > > > these two products!

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> They shut the road through the woods

> Seventy years ago.

> Weather and rain have undone it again,

> And now you would never know

> There was once a road through the woods

> Before they planted the trees.

> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> And the thin anemones.

> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,

> And the badgers roll at ease,

> There was once a road through the woods.

>

> Yet, if you enter the woods

> Of a summer evening late,

> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.

> (They fear not men in the woods,

> Because they see so few)

> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,

> As though they perfectly knew

> The old lost road through the woods….

> But there is no road through the woods.

> *

> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

[Guest guest]

Sounds like it probably started with bird mites, but the tiny hard grains are not the bird mites......one can squish bird mites with a finger, if one rubs over them.On 6 August 2011 20:05, s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

 

Thought it was because of the bird mites entering my body or introducing other organisms into my body...

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> > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them using

> > > > > > primarily

> > > > > > > > these two products!

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> They shut the road through the woods

> Seventy years ago.

> Weather and rain have undone it again,

> And now you would never know

> There was once a road through the woods

> Before they planted the trees.

> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> And the thin anemones.

> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,

> And the badgers roll at ease,

> There was once a road through the woods.

>

> Yet, if you enter the woods

> Of a summer evening late,

> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.

> (They fear not men in the woods,

> Because they see so few)

> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,

> As though they perfectly knew

> The old lost road through the woods….

> But there is no road through the woods.

> *

> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

[Guest guest]

Sounds like it probably started with bird mites, but the tiny hard grains are not the bird mites......one can squish bird mites with a finger, if one rubs over them.On 6 August 2011 20:05, s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

 

Thought it was because of the bird mites entering my body or introducing other organisms into my body...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them using

> > > > > > primarily

> > > > > > > > these two products!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Any experiences sincerely appreciated...

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> Weather and rain have undone it again,

> And now you would never know

> There was once a road through the woods

> Before they planted the trees.

> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> And the thin anemones.

> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,

> And the badgers roll at ease,

> There was once a road through the woods.

>

> Yet, if you enter the woods

> Of a summer evening late,

> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.

> (They fear not men in the woods,

> Because they see so few)

> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,

> As though they perfectly knew

> The old lost road through the woods….

> But there is no road through the woods.

> *

> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

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It could be a variety of mites/insects and they probably can carry infections. I do know that they are attracted to us in the first place because our bodies are infected. Your truck is probably contaminated with the fungus that is bein produced in your skin. I had your exact same symptoms. Have you ever had an attached tick or been in areas where there are ticks?On Aug 6, 2011, at 8:05 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Thought it was because of the bird mites entering my body or introducing other organisms into my body...

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> Before they planted the trees.

> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> And the thin anemones.

> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,

> And the badgers roll at ease,

> There was once a road through the woods.

>

> Yet, if you enter the woods

> Of a summer evening late,

> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.

> (They fear not men in the woods,

> Because they see so few)

> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,

> As though they perfectly knew

> The old lost road through the woods….

> But there is no road through the woods.

> *

> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>

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The others know far more than me about the co-infections. I have only knowledge & experience of poultry mites. As someone else suggested maybe it's tiny collembola (springtails) on your skin. Mites prefer warm humid conditions but then so does fungus & , I believe, collembola.

I've attaced a scientfic paper on collembola. They look pretty difficult to see on the photos but judging by the measurements of some of the larger examples described in the study, they would just be visible with the naked eye; this has been confirmed by some people here who have seen collembola on their skin.

On 6 August 2011 20:16, s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

 

But I feel crawling on my leg across the skin at night?!

Is the fact that they seem to come out when it is humid because I am mildly sweating and so the pores are open?

How come I immediately start itching when I am in my truck?

People always itch uncontrollably around me! Usually the back of their necks...

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> > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > > And now you would never know

> > > There was once a road through the woods

> > > Before they planted the trees.

> > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > > And the thin anemones.

> > > Only the keeper sees

> > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > > There was once a road through the woods.

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> > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > > Of a summer evening late,

> > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > > Because they see so few)

> > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > > Steadily cantering through

> > > The misty solitudes,

> > > As though they perfectly knew

> > > The old lost road through the woods….

> > > But there is no road through the woods.

> > > *

> > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

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> They shut the road through the woods

> Seventy years ago.

> Weather and rain have undone it again,

> And now you would never know

> There was once a road through the woods

> Before they planted the trees.

> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> And the thin anemones.

> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,

> And the badgers roll at ease,

> There was once a road through the woods.

>

> Yet, if you enter the woods

> Of a summer evening late,

> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.

> (They fear not men in the woods,

> Because they see so few)

> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,

> As though they perfectly knew

> The old lost road through the woods….

> But there is no road through the woods.

> *

> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

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The others know far more than me about the co-infections. I have only knowledge & experience of poultry mites. As someone else suggested maybe it's tiny collembola (springtails) on your skin. Mites prefer warm humid conditions but then so does fungus & , I believe, collembola.

I've attaced a scientfic paper on collembola. They look pretty difficult to see on the photos but judging by the measurements of some of the larger examples described in the study, they would just be visible with the naked eye; this has been confirmed by some people here who have seen collembola on their skin.

On 6 August 2011 20:16, s.jay8383 <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

 

But I feel crawling on my leg across the skin at night?!

Is the fact that they seem to come out when it is humid because I am mildly sweating and so the pores are open?

How come I immediately start itching when I am in my truck?

People always itch uncontrollably around me! Usually the back of their necks...

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Rita had said that she was able to eliminate them using

> > > > > > > > primarily

> > > > > > > > > > these two products!

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> > > Seventy years ago.

> > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > > And now you would never know

> > > There was once a road through the woods

> > > Before they planted the trees.

> > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > > And the thin anemones.

> > > Only the keeper sees

> > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > > There was once a road through the woods.

> > >

> > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > > Of a summer evening late,

> > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > > Because they see so few)

> > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > > Steadily cantering through

> > > The misty solitudes,

> > > As though they perfectly knew

> > > The old lost road through the woods….

> > > But there is no road through the woods.

> > > *

> > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

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> --

> They shut the road through the woods

> Seventy years ago.

> Weather and rain have undone it again,

> And now you would never know

> There was once a road through the woods

> Before they planted the trees.

> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> And the thin anemones.

> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,

> And the badgers roll at ease,

> There was once a road through the woods.

>

> Yet, if you enter the woods

> Of a summer evening late,

> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.

> (They fear not men in the woods,

> Because they see so few)

> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,

> As though they perfectly knew

> The old lost road through the woods….

> But there is no road through the woods.

> *

> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

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Collembola (springtails) found in humans.pdf

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You don't need labs to diagnose Lyme disease, and you'll know for sure if the doc starts you on Doxycycline or fluconazole and you have a herxheimer reaction(die off of pathogenic microbes).On Aug 6, 2011, at 8:00 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Bacteria was out of range on a recent test...labs but I could not afford follow ups...

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> Before they planted the trees.

> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> And the thin anemones.

> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,

> And the badgers roll at ease,

> There was once a road through the woods.

>

> Yet, if you enter the woods

> Of a summer evening late,

> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.

> (They fear not men in the woods,

> Because they see so few)

> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,

> As though they perfectly knew

> The old lost road through the woods….

> But there is no road through the woods.

> *

> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>

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Jay-You can't not afford to afford a doctor. What you have going on are serious chronic infections. It took me 6 months to find a doctor who was familiar with my bizzare symptoms and would take me seriously.On Aug 6, 2011, at 7:38 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

I felt a bump on the back of my head (middle of hair) and wondered but now I think it is gone...

How can something that size come from out of my skin?

How come it is mostly happening in my truck or at night when it is humid?

They manifest just like bird mites - mostly 12-5 AM when it it humid.

When I slept at a friends they were almost non-existent...yet when I slept at a hotel they progressively got worse...I thought because they were bird mites multiplying...

UGH.

What if I can't afford a doctor?

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Yes, you probably have multiple infections and some sort of insects on you that are bighting. On Aug 6, 2011, at 7:57 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Perhaps I have bird mites AND a bacterial infection?

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> Seventy years ago.

> Weather and rain have undone it again,

> And now you would never know

> There was once a road through the woods

> Before they planted the trees.

> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> And the thin anemones.

> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,

> And the badgers roll at ease,

> There was once a road through the woods.

>

> Yet, if you enter the woods

> Of a summer evening late,

> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.

> (They fear not men in the woods,

> Because they see so few)

> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,

> As though they perfectly knew

> The old lost road through the woods….

> But there is no road through the woods.

> *

> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>

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You should see an LLMD, 90% of us with these symptoms have Lyme and/or other tick borne diseases, primarily Bartonella and Babesia plus random fungal infections. Also, secondary Infections to Lyme like Mycoplasma, Chlamidia Pnemeunia, etc. What state do you live in, I can find out the LLMDs in your state.AandrayaOn Aug 6, 2011, at 9:02 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

I thought that I may have had one attached and I live around lots of huge trees.

Thanks again for caring to answer.

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> > > > > > > > > > these two products!

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> > > Seventy years ago.

> > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> > > And now you would never know

> > > There was once a road through the woods

> > > Before they planted the trees.

> > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> > > And the thin anemones.

> > > Only the keeper sees

> > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> > > There was once a road through the woods.

> > >

> > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> > > Of a summer evening late,

> > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> > > Because they see so few)

> > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> > > Steadily cantering through

> > > The misty solitudes,

> > > As though they perfectly knew

> > > The old lost road through the woods….

> > > But there is no road through the woods.

> > > *

> > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

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Most likely and sadly.Sent from my iPodOn Aug 6, 2011, at 5:57 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

Perhaps I have bird mites AND a bacterial infection?

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> Seventy years ago.

> Weather and rain have undone it again,

> And now you would never know

> There was once a road through the woods

> Before they planted the trees.

> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> And the thin anemones.

> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,

> And the badgers roll at ease,

> There was once a road through the woods.

>

> Yet, if you enter the woods

> Of a summer evening late,

> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.

> (They fear not men in the woods,

> Because they see so few)

> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,

> As though they perfectly knew

> The old lost road through the woods….

> But there is no road through the woods.

> *

> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>

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They did in my scalp too. Sent from my iPodOn Aug 6, 2011, at 5:57 PM, "s.jay8383" <s.jay8383@...> wrote:

I used to mostly find what looked like grains of pepper a couple of weeks ago.

Now it almost exclusively this granules. Yes they are hard and most are tiny but I found a relatively larger one yesterday.

I have never SEEN one of these things move but I have felt the crawling all the time at night when I am trying to sleep.

The granules I find on my face around the orifices. Seemed like they were coming out of my scalp the other night...

Thanks for asking.

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> Seventy years ago.

> Weather and rain have undone it again,

> And now you would never know

> There was once a road through the woods

> Before they planted the trees.

> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> And the thin anemones.

> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,

> And the badgers roll at ease,

> There was once a road through the woods.

>

> Yet, if you enter the woods

> Of a summer evening late,

> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.

> (They fear not men in the woods,

> Because they see so few)

> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,

> As though they perfectly knew

> The old lost road through the woods….

> But there is no road through the woods.

> *

> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>