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Hi and ,

I have actually had so many stages of this stuff and so many different things

coming from my body/feet-- first deformed bugs,things that looked like tiny

splinters of wood, the gel type [silicone?]you speak of with black specs, sand

etc.--one morning woke up and saw I had shed all these pieces of light brown

skin that were squiggly like in the shape of worms. I have peeled huge layers

off this past year, but then was shocked when I recently looked up some old

photos and found I was occasionally peeling way back in 2008 too. Like with you

, it would reveal a healthier layer of skin underneath for a while and but

then from my experience, another layer would return[?] Some weeks peeling will

reveal these huge lumps and crevices. I also have something that actually pulls

my skin inward in areas underneath my toes, [saw this happen in 'real time' and

felt like there was an alien being in there -eek] so figure I have some type of

worm. Double eek...

I believe a lot of this is coming from within i.e your gel type organism with a

black spec, but some bugs and obviously fungus are from the environment too. And

i think the fungus is in our bloodstream, coming out through our pores. The bugs

that I was seeing before, were definitely coming from within, since they were

deformed with outer shells looking half eaten or legs missing etc [think by the

enzymes I was taking ?]. Fortunately, I don't see many hard shelled bugs anymore

and think I am now mainly dealing with some type of worm and some bacterial

debris coming from the network of internal infection. Still battling this glass

like airborne creature that stings me too. Shake my head and they all come

flying off.

As I said, I want to start wearing socks again, but feel activity when I do

since I think it 'feeds' the 'network' of infection ... was thinking of maybe

just adding boric acid to the socks and / or covering my feet with an antifungal

to make the cotton less attractive. But will try the borax and h202 again too

[although was taking long h202 / epsom salt baths when first acute stages of my

hair began]. Then to disinfect separately from regular clothes because my feet

were so much more infested with things; which is another reason why I had given

up on socks..would find I would never get around to washing the bag of socks

because I was soaking and cleaning the rest of my clothes. Boiling and ironing

should work to kill whatever might be in the socks, but then again, I still

think the actual cotton, GMO or not, is sought after by something I have going

on from within.

So , I had pondered that question too...whether organic cotton would make a

difference? I bought some online organic pjs that were on sale and it was

definitely easier to clean them in the beginning. But then after wearing them

for a while, it didn't matter...they became infected from ME--think I might have

this GM cotton / nematode parasite/bacteria ? that takes a liking to cotton. But

again, all guesswork.

Well , seems if its working, keep on doing it! That's great-- I too think

the specs are fungal but some black spec / pepper things are different..maybe

eggs or some bug since they seem to be able to jump and bite.

Have a good 4th of July weekend everyone!

Pdidit

> I don't know if this sheds some light on the stinging on the feet, but here

goes.  After the bottom of my feet crusted and flaked off, I now have healthy

looking red feet bottoms.  At least twice since then, I felt something stinging

the bottom of a foot.  I reached down both times and scratched the sight up and

found a gel-like creater.  They look like the " flying Nun's " hat under the

microscope.  Always.  A repeated structure.  They often have black specks on

them which I think is fungus.  These are the same things that got in my ears

months ago and I am trying to clean out of my hair with occasional ones on my

body.  As babies, they are gel-like lumps about the size of sand.  Everytime I

put my oil on, I rub my hands slowly over my body and remove any sand size thing

I feel into a paper napkin and toss.  I've been trying to figure whether they

are being born on the skin or if they are coming out of the skin.  I use to

find a lot on my

> body all the time.  I am finding fewer and fewer each day.  Is it the Lysol

bathes, the Doxy, the oil, or a combination of all three getting rid of them? Go

figure.

> Love and light,

>

> Love and light,

>

>

>

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

>

> Some of the things you talked about I could really relate to, esp. as it

relates to the feet.  I felt for the longest time like I actually had sand on

my feet when I wore cotton sox and my feet were so sensitive to anything.  The

feet are less sensitive now, but I have pondered on the possibility that organic

cotton may be different than the standard Monsanto cotton socks.  I say that in

jest, of course, but there is truth there too re: Monsanto cotton.  I didn't go

to the trouble of looking into buying organic cotton socks, but they must be

available somewhere on the internet.  I wonder... if it would make a

difference.  Hmmmmm   Could you take a steam iron to your socks to disinfect

them?  

>

>

> Anyway, please let us know what Fry labs says... you and I talked about that

before and I'm really interested to know what they found, if anything.  

>

>

> Sitting here in my purple crocs... lol  Hugs,

>

>

>

>

> From: " S " <pshannon9@...>

> bird mites

> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 12:42:21 PM

> Subject: Re: blog moved, forum added, F-5 helping athletes

foot, toenail fungus

>

>

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Hi Kayjay

>

> Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the F-5

product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time consuming

that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing promising

results and that's good too. Keep us posted!

>

> I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally; while I

think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might not deal with

everything involved, it seems the safest route to go until we know more. I think

the enzymes are helping and that I am getting better, but then another cycle

returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to report about that...mainly

spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not taking a large enough

quantity for what I have going on in my system right now.

>

> I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that may be

impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid infection [?]. I

have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up within the last few

years which is one sign that I may have this, aside from specimen's I studied on

my own in the beginning... so many things to attack at once with morgellons,

including the agrobacteria that is probably at the route and perpetuating factor

of this infection. So do you believe that this topical enzyme would and/or is

addressing some of these internal parasites and agrobacteria that we have?

>

> Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks? And after

wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all cottons,

which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore before this

disease struck. So many years later and am still dealing with this! These flying

critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I still do have around so

have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if when trying to wear anything

cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as socks--that something from within,

is extracting and using it for some part of the infection. My legs and feet were

getting better, then got another attack with the warm weather here, that brought

on the familiar lumps and moving sensations...and I continue to produce these

'artifacts' from the soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need

to get around this somehow since I want to start an exercise program wearing

running shoes. As it

> stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the time, which I can

easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them!

>

> Your thoughts?

>

> Thanks!

> Love

> Pdidit

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> --

> They shut the road through the woods

> Seventy years ago.

> Weather and rain have undone it again,

> And now you would never know

> There was once a road through the woods

> Before they planted the trees.

> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> And the thin anemones.

> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,

> And the badgers roll at ease,

> There was once a road through the woods.

>

> Yet, if you enter the woods

> Of a summer evening late,

> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.

> (They fear not men in the woods,

> Because they see so few)

> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,

> As though they perfectly knew

> The old lost road through the woods….

> But there is no road through the woods.

>

> The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

>

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Hi Bill. The ingredients are not published. But, I have been told it's enzyme

based. I know I am assuming a risk by using something without obtaining full

disclosure - however, I would do just about anything at this point as I feel I

am losing the battle - like it's one step forward employing various

protocols/products and two steps back. Basically I get relief and then things

rear up again and usually they are worse. Because of this, I have decided to

test F-5 on myself only. I figure it can't be much worse than the bleach baths

I used to take.

I hope it didn't/doesn't sound like I am promoting F-5. Jury is out on it's

effectiveness as I have only been applying it for a few weeks so I can't say

whether it works or not - just wanted to share that it has seemed to attack the

athlete's foot/heel crust issue I've had for a long time and right now I don't

have the larvae/rice things (those do seem to cycle so it could just be I am in

an off phase). Scalp problems are still there and I have ongoing folliculitis

in my shins so no great breakthrough with those areas as of yet. I will keep

you posted.

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > ÂÂ

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > Hi ,

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > Some of the things you talked about I could really relate to, esp. as

> >> it relates to the feet.  I felt for the longest time like I actually

had

> >> sand on my feet when I wore cotton sox and my feet were so sensitive to

> >> anything.  The feet are less sensitive now, but I have pondered on

the

> >> possibility that organic cotton may be different than the standard Monsanto

> >> cotton socks.  I say that in jest, of course, but there is truth

there

> >> too re: Monsanto cotton.  I didn't go to the trouble of looking into

> >> buying organic cotton socks, but they must be available somewhere on the

> >> internet.  I wonder... if it would make a difference.  Hmmmmm

ÂÂ

> >> Could you take a steam iron to your socks to disinfect them? ÂÂ

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > Anyway, please let us know what Fry labs says... you and I talked about

> >> that before and I'm really interested to know what they found, if anything.

> >> ÂÂ

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > Sitting here in my purple crocs... lol  Hugs,

> >>

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > From: " S " <pshannon9@>

> >> > > bird mites

> >> > > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 12:42:21 PM

> >> > > Subject: Re: blog moved, forum added, F-5 helping

> >> athletes foot, toenail fungus

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > ÂÂ

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > Hi Kayjay

> >> > >

> >> > > Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the

> >> F-5 product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time

> >> consuming that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing

> >> promising results and that's good too. Keep us posted!

> >> > >

> >> > > I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally;

> >> while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might

> >> not deal with everything involved, it seems the safest route to go until we

> >> know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting better,

but

> >> then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to

report

> >> about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not

> >> taking a large enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right

> >> now.

> >> > >

> >> > > I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that

> >> may be impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid

> >> infection [?]. I have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up

> >> within the last few years which is one sign that I may have this, aside

from

> >> specimen's I studied on my own in the beginning... so many things to attack

> >> at once with morgellons, including the agrobacteria that is probably at the

> >> route and perpetuating factor of this infection. So do you believe that

this

> >> topical enzyme would and/or is addressing some of these internal parasites

> >> and agrobacteria that we have?

> >> > >

> >> > > Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks? And after

> >> wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all

> >> cottons, which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore

> >> before this disease struck. So many years later and am still dealing with

> >> this! These flying critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I

> >> still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if

> >> when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as

> >> socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for some part

> >> of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got another

> >> attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps and

> >> moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the

> >> soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around

> >> this somehow since I want to start an exercise program wearing running

> >> shoes. As it

> >> > > stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the time, which

> >> I can easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them!

> >> > >

> >> > > Your thoughts?

> >> > >

> >> > > Thanks!

> >> > > Love

> >> > > Pdidit

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > --

> >> > > They shut the road through the woods

> >> > > Seventy years ago.

> >> > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> >> > > And now you would never know

> >> > > There was once a road through the woods

> >> > > Before they planted the trees.

> >> > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> >> > > And the thin anemones.

> >> > > Only the keeper sees

> >> > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> >> > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> >> > > There was once a road through the woods.

> >> > >

> >> > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> >> > > Of a summer evening late,

> >> > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> >> > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> >> > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> >> > > Because they see so few)

> >> > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> >> > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> >> > > Steadily cantering through

> >> > > The misty solitudes,

> >> > > As though they perfectly knew

> >> > > The old lost road through the woods….

> >>

> >> > > But there is no road through the woods.

> >> > >

> >> > > The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

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Hi Bill. The ingredients are not published. But, I have been told it's enzyme

based. I know I am assuming a risk by using something without obtaining full

disclosure - however, I would do just about anything at this point as I feel I

am losing the battle - like it's one step forward employing various

protocols/products and two steps back. Basically I get relief and then things

rear up again and usually they are worse. Because of this, I have decided to

test F-5 on myself only. I figure it can't be much worse than the bleach baths

I used to take.

I hope it didn't/doesn't sound like I am promoting F-5. Jury is out on it's

effectiveness as I have only been applying it for a few weeks so I can't say

whether it works or not - just wanted to share that it has seemed to attack the

athlete's foot/heel crust issue I've had for a long time and right now I don't

have the larvae/rice things (those do seem to cycle so it could just be I am in

an off phase). Scalp problems are still there and I have ongoing folliculitis

in my shins so no great breakthrough with those areas as of yet. I will keep

you posted.

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > ÂÂ

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > Hi ,

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > Some of the things you talked about I could really relate to, esp. as

> >> it relates to the feet.  I felt for the longest time like I actually

had

> >> sand on my feet when I wore cotton sox and my feet were so sensitive to

> >> anything.  The feet are less sensitive now, but I have pondered on

the

> >> possibility that organic cotton may be different than the standard Monsanto

> >> cotton socks.  I say that in jest, of course, but there is truth

there

> >> too re: Monsanto cotton.  I didn't go to the trouble of looking into

> >> buying organic cotton socks, but they must be available somewhere on the

> >> internet.  I wonder... if it would make a difference.  Hmmmmm

ÂÂ

> >> Could you take a steam iron to your socks to disinfect them? ÂÂ

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > Anyway, please let us know what Fry labs says... you and I talked about

> >> that before and I'm really interested to know what they found, if anything.

> >> ÂÂ

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > Sitting here in my purple crocs... lol  Hugs,

> >>

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > From: " S " <pshannon9@>

> >> > > bird mites

> >> > > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 12:42:21 PM

> >> > > Subject: Re: blog moved, forum added, F-5 helping

> >> athletes foot, toenail fungus

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > ÂÂ

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > Hi Kayjay

> >> > >

> >> > > Wanted to thank you for dispelling some of the mystery surrounding the

> >> F-5 product. I checked out your site and think it is great! Know how time

> >> consuming that must be, so good job! Anyway, continued updates are showing

> >> promising results and that's good too. Keep us posted!

> >> > >

> >> > > I believe in enzymes and take a lot of systemic enzymes internally;

> >> while I think it is a slower process in getting rid of pathogens and might

> >> not deal with everything involved, it seems the safest route to go until we

> >> know more. I think the enzymes are helping and that I am getting better,

but

> >> then another cycle returns so am not quite sure what to say or how to

report

> >> about that...mainly spinning my wheels? LOL.. I dunno but maybe I am not

> >> taking a large enough quantity for what I have going on in my system right

> >> now.

> >> > >

> >> > > I am waiting for fry lab report to see if I have a blood protozoan that

> >> may be impeding my progress, but also think I may have a strongyloid

> >> infection [?]. I have this newly acquired 'mottled' skin that has shown up

> >> within the last few years which is one sign that I may have this, aside

from

> >> specimen's I studied on my own in the beginning... so many things to attack

> >> at once with morgellons, including the agrobacteria that is probably at the

> >> route and perpetuating factor of this infection. So do you believe that

this

> >> topical enzyme would and/or is addressing some of these internal parasites

> >> and agrobacteria that we have?

> >> > >

> >> > > Anyway,I was wondering what your trick was to wearing socks? And after

> >> wearing, how do you disinfect them ? I have had to move away from all

> >> cottons, which I loved and like many of us, cotton was mainly all I wore

> >> before this disease struck. So many years later and am still dealing with

> >> this! These flying critters I have continue to be a magnet to any cotton I

> >> still do have around so have shelved these for now--but I also feel as if

> >> when trying to wear anything cotton, especially loose knit cotton such as

> >> socks--that something from within, is extracting and using it for some part

> >> of the infection. My legs and feet were getting better, then got another

> >> attack with the warm weather here, that brought on the familiar lumps and

> >> moving sensations...and I continue to produce these 'artifacts' from the

> >> soles of my feet at different intervals. But I really need to get around

> >> this somehow since I want to start an exercise program wearing running

> >> shoes. As it

> >> > > stands, I continue to fall back on my rubber crocs all the time, which

> >> I can easily wash and disinfect but sure can't exercise in them!

> >> > >

> >> > > Your thoughts?

> >> > >

> >> > > Thanks!

> >> > > Love

> >> > > Pdidit

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > --

> >> > > They shut the road through the woods

> >> > > Seventy years ago.

> >> > > Weather and rain have undone it again,

> >> > > And now you would never know

> >> > > There was once a road through the woods

> >> > > Before they planted the trees.

> >> > > It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> >> > > And the thin anemones.

> >> > > Only the keeper sees

> >> > > That, where the ring-dove broods,

> >> > > And the badgers roll at ease,

> >> > > There was once a road through the woods.

> >> > >

> >> > > Yet, if you enter the woods

> >> > > Of a summer evening late,

> >> > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> >> > > Where the otter whistles his mate.

> >> > > (They fear not men in the woods,

> >> > > Because they see so few)

> >> > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> >> > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> >> > > Steadily cantering through

> >> > > The misty solitudes,

> >> > > As though they perfectly knew

> >> > > The old lost road through the woods….

> >>

> >> > > But there is no road through the woods.

> >> > >

> >> > > The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

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Hi Zen

For my hair, I have been using a couple of products that have really helped to

keep down any crawling and smothers them at the surface. On the flip side, have

found nothing that is addressing this colony underneath the skin. I put on this

silver gel that has glycerine as a base, then after this thoroughly dries, smear

on this Redmond Clay First Aid and let this thoroughly dry. I posted this info

and the links a few weeks back and wish I had saved this. I am currently trying

to find cheaper and more reliable vendors but for now, I use lucky vitamin.

Think Swanson sells these two products a bit cheaper. The silver can be found

under american biotech silver body gel, but has the ASAP label on it. I get the

4 oz tube, but this is getting rather expensive since the price now went up to

15.00 per tube. The Redmond clay First Aid is half the price. I really like both

of these and at the moment, don't like being without them.

I might add that these products do not stop the creeping biofilm crud that

continues to grow on my hair and scalp so intermittently address this [once a

week]. I use diluted clorox [pour over head] for this and is nothing I would

advocate for others to do--but it kills and eliminates huge amounts of what I

call the 'pseudo hairs' that look like creamy colored fake hair strands, always

seemingly layered in my scalp. I am hoping that the clorox is not really

causing too much toxicity, since I have layers of the infection for it to go

through first before entering my body. But for a safer approach, I might go back

to and add in the B. peroxide from Kern as suggested by Holly [thanks

Holly for your update], but for the reasons beyond comprehension it stopped

working for me at one point, so might add it to the silver for deeper

penetration. As usual flying by the seat of my pants, with the head issues but

at least I have things that keep me comfortable.

And btw, was told by lyme doctor that flagyl is really good for killing eggs --

at least the ones related to lyme disease so would be interested to hear how

this helps you.

Yesterday I tried the h202 again and it seemed to cause more activity and burn,

but this could be a good thing...? Yet didn't get rid of the 'gray' fungal skin

I have around my temples--skin and hair that is closest to my face. I am also

going to try allstop lice treatment, since I see all sorts of these little tiny

thin brown critters coming off my head /back which could be a type of lice.

Without the microscope, I can't tell. I will report back. But again, always keep

in mind that you may have something different that needs an entirely different

protocol.

I recently took some photos of my skin since it often serves as my better pair

of eyes...and found tiny little worms [strongyloides?] exiting the brown skin

spots, much like the youtube video of the guy from China, showing the doctor

continuing to wipe off these little creatures coming to the surface. Think mine

were dead on arrival since they didn't appear to be moving...wish I knew what

product that doctor was using in China. But for now, think these worms coming to

the surface must again be from enzymes and an herbal antiparasitic called

revoxil and DE in water. IMHO, all good overall broad based remedies no matter

what worms etc you have.

Love

Pdidit

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>

> Thanks . Have a good 4th too. Are you doing anything? We might go

to the local parade if not too hot. May need to bring an umbrella and lots of

iced tea.

>

> Btw, I think the fungus is in the bloodstream too. I think it has been

scientifically shown that candida can live in the bloodstream and multiple

organs of the body.

>

>

>

> Sent from my iPod

Hi !

No, I had no plans to go see the fireworks, since it was very humid here with

the drizzling rain off and on too. But I did watch it on TV and WOW...seemed

spectacular this year in New York, in contrast to Wash DC near where I live

although that one was pretty good too. I think both did a great job coordinating

the timing etc --must be a hard job and much to do to pull this off...which I

think is usually taken for granted.

Hope you had a fun night and celebration. As much as we complain about

government, corruption etc., think we are no different from any other country in

that respect. Not excusing it and it still makes me angry at times, just

thinking in worldly terms. Things could be a lot worse and in comparison, feel

there is much that we all could focus on that is positive.

Am comatose tired, so please excuse any errors or random thoughts :)

xxoo

Pdidit

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Well am glad that you at least don't have that going on too..obviously tis a

good thing and one less hit on your immune system. Makes me wonder where and how

we get the information [perhaps outdated?] that tells us otherwise...that is,

that 98% of lyme patients have morgs, or the other way around? Look forward to

the day when all this is being seriously researched and accurately tracked

statistically.

Thanks for the support and your ideas...

Love

Pdidit

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