Guest guest Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 I don't know whether anyone saw the relevance of this post. It would make appear ( & it makes sense) that people using Lysol ( & similar products) would make it even more effective if they add some high quality washing up liquid. On 29 June 2011 08:45, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote: I am often looking around at products, available in UK, which might help my mother. I was digging around discussion groups & found quite a few good reports for products called " Smite-a-mite " http://smite-a-mite.com/ ...................I'm never big on buying potentially expensive products when one might be able to do a considerably cheaper DIY version......so I thought I'd research their products a bit. Looking into their programme http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/mite-control.html.................the programme involves buying both of their products (what a surprise <grin>) Very helpfully they provide safety data sheets which give the active ingredients.http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/Resources/Smite-Professional-data-sheet.pdf .................... & there we find the active ingredients, for one of the products, are our old friend from preparations such as Lysol, benzalkonium chloride, though in a stronger solution than Lysol, & a nonionic surficant Alkyl alcohol ethoxylate, plus a small amount of sodium chloride (table salt). & , judging by their descriptin, their other product is most likely diatomacious earth. Many have found Lysol & similar products to be helpful though I have never read anywhere, why this would be effective against mites as it is not generally indicated as an acaricide. Very helpfully, the manufactureres of this product have put an explanation as to why benzalkonium chloride would kill mites. http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/about-mite.html " .........One of the best methods of attacking Red Mite therefore is to use a strong degreasant compound which dissolves the exoskeleton and rapidly kills the mite by desiccation. This method has the advantage that it is impossible for the mite to build resistance, a growing problem with many pesticides, and means that the same treatment can be applied repeatedly to keep the infestation under control.Smite is a specially selected, super-strength degreasant, disinfectant cleaner, with excellent wetting properties, which has been proven highly effective at eliminating Red Mite in poultry housing. It is pleasant to use, for both the operator and the birds, is economical and contains no pesticides. " So, in the first product, the benzalkonium chloride at 5+% is the degreasant/disinfectant, the surficant gives better wetting properties, & the second product is DE. We ought to all be able to reproduce their mite smiting products cheaply & easly. ;~D I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who. Rudyard Kipling -- They shut the road through the woods Seventy years ago. Weather and rain have undone it again, And now you would never know There was once a road through the woods Before they planted the trees. It is underneath the coppice and heath, And the thin anemones. Only the keeper sees That, where the ring-dove broods, And the badgers roll at ease, There was once a road through the woods. Yet, if you enter the woods Of a summer evening late, When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools Where the otter whistles his mate. (They fear not men in the woods, Because they see so few) You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, And the swish of a skirt in the dew, Steadily cantering through The misty solitudes, As though they perfectly knew The old lost road through the woods…. But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 So there you are Marie...I've been wondering where you were. Peek-a-boo! Love and light, From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>Subject: Re: Smite-a-mitebird mites Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 3:16 PM Interesting ingredients. http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/Resources/Smite-Professional-data-sheet.pdfSodium carbonateSodium carbonate (also known as washing soda or soda ash)Alkyl alcohol ethoxylatThere are different types of surfactants available in the market, to the name the few are alkyl alcohol ethoxylate, fatty acid ethoxylate, fatty amines ethoxylate, alkyl phenol ethoxylate, polyethylene glycols (peg), castor oil ethoxylates, hydrogenated castor oil ethoxylates, amino silicon oil emulsifier, silicon oil emulsifier, paraffin wax emulsifier, glycerin ethoxylates, paraffin and silicon oil emulsifier.AlkyldimethylbenzlammoniumchlorideAlkyl-Dimethyl-Benzyl-Ammonium-Chloride for Sanitization of Eating and Drinking Utensils > > > > I am often looking around at products, available in UK, which might help my mother. I was digging around discussion groups & found quite a few good reports for products called "Smite-a-mite" > http://smite-a-mite.com/ > > ..................I'm never big on buying potentially expensive products when one might be able to do a considerably cheaper DIY version......so I thought I'd research their products a bit. > > Looking into their programme > http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/mite-control.html > > .................the programme involves buying both of their products (what a surprise <grin>) > > Very helpfully they provide safety data sheets which give the active ingredients. > http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/Resources/Smite-Professional-data-sheet.pdf > > ................... & there we find the active ingredients, for one of the products, are our old friend from preparations such as Lysol, benzalkonium chloride, though in a stronger solution than Lysol, & a nonionic surficant Alkyl alcohol ethoxylate, plus a small amount of sodium chloride (table salt). > & , judging by their descriptin, their other product is most likely diatomacious earth. > > Many have found Lysol & similar products to be helpful though I have never read anywhere, why this would be effective against mites as it is not generally indicated as an acaricide. > Very helpfully, the manufactureres of this product have put an explanation as to why benzalkonium chloride would kill mites. > http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/about-mite.html > > ".........One of the best methods of attacking Red Mite therefore is to use a strong degreasant compound which dissolves the exoskeleton and rapidly kills the mite by desiccation. This method has the advantage that it is impossible for the mite to build resistance, a growing problem with many pesticides, and means that the same treatment can be applied repeatedly to keep the infestation under control. > Smite is a specially selected, super-strength degreasant, disinfectant cleaner, with excellent wetting properties, which has been proven highly effective at eliminating Red Mite in poultry housing. It is pleasant to use, for both the operator and the birds, is economical and contains no pesticides. " > > So, in the first product, the benzalkonium chloride at 5+% is the degreasant/disinfectant, the surficant gives better wetting properties, & the second product is DE. We ought to all be able to reproduce their mite smiting products cheaply & easly. ;~D > > > I keep six honest serving-men > (They taught me all I knew); > Their names are What and Why and When > And How and Where and Who. > > Rudyard Kipling > > > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods > Seventy years ago. > Weather and rain have undone it again, > And now you would never know > There was once a road through the woods > Before they planted the trees. > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > And the thin anemones. > Only the keeper sees > That, where the ring-dove broods, > And the badgers roll at ease, > There was once a road through the woods. > > Yet, if you enter the woods > Of a summer evening late, > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > Where the otter whistles his mate. > (They fear not men in the woods, > Because they see so few) > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > Steadily cantering through > The misty solitudes, > As though they perfectly knew > The old lost road through the woods…. > But there is no road through the woods. > > The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 So there you are Marie...I've been wondering where you were. Peek-a-boo! Love and light, From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>Subject: Re: Smite-a-mitebird mites Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 3:16 PM Interesting ingredients. http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/Resources/Smite-Professional-data-sheet.pdfSodium carbonateSodium carbonate (also known as washing soda or soda ash)Alkyl alcohol ethoxylatThere are different types of surfactants available in the market, to the name the few are alkyl alcohol ethoxylate, fatty acid ethoxylate, fatty amines ethoxylate, alkyl phenol ethoxylate, polyethylene glycols (peg), castor oil ethoxylates, hydrogenated castor oil ethoxylates, amino silicon oil emulsifier, silicon oil emulsifier, paraffin wax emulsifier, glycerin ethoxylates, paraffin and silicon oil emulsifier.AlkyldimethylbenzlammoniumchlorideAlkyl-Dimethyl-Benzyl-Ammonium-Chloride for Sanitization of Eating and Drinking Utensils > > > > I am often looking around at products, available in UK, which might help my mother. I was digging around discussion groups & found quite a few good reports for products called "Smite-a-mite" > http://smite-a-mite.com/ > > ..................I'm never big on buying potentially expensive products when one might be able to do a considerably cheaper DIY version......so I thought I'd research their products a bit. > > Looking into their programme > http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/mite-control.html > > .................the programme involves buying both of their products (what a surprise <grin>) > > Very helpfully they provide safety data sheets which give the active ingredients. > http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/Resources/Smite-Professional-data-sheet.pdf > > ................... & there we find the active ingredients, for one of the products, are our old friend from preparations such as Lysol, benzalkonium chloride, though in a stronger solution than Lysol, & a nonionic surficant Alkyl alcohol ethoxylate, plus a small amount of sodium chloride (table salt). > & , judging by their descriptin, their other product is most likely diatomacious earth. > > Many have found Lysol & similar products to be helpful though I have never read anywhere, why this would be effective against mites as it is not generally indicated as an acaricide. > Very helpfully, the manufactureres of this product have put an explanation as to why benzalkonium chloride would kill mites. > http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/about-mite.html > > ".........One of the best methods of attacking Red Mite therefore is to use a strong degreasant compound which dissolves the exoskeleton and rapidly kills the mite by desiccation. This method has the advantage that it is impossible for the mite to build resistance, a growing problem with many pesticides, and means that the same treatment can be applied repeatedly to keep the infestation under control. > Smite is a specially selected, super-strength degreasant, disinfectant cleaner, with excellent wetting properties, which has been proven highly effective at eliminating Red Mite in poultry housing. It is pleasant to use, for both the operator and the birds, is economical and contains no pesticides. " > > So, in the first product, the benzalkonium chloride at 5+% is the degreasant/disinfectant, the surficant gives better wetting properties, & the second product is DE. We ought to all be able to reproduce their mite smiting products cheaply & easly. ;~D > > > I keep six honest serving-men > (They taught me all I knew); > Their names are What and Why and When > And How and Where and Who. > > Rudyard Kipling > > > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods > Seventy years ago. > Weather and rain have undone it again, > And now you would never know > There was once a road through the woods > Before they planted the trees. > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > And the thin anemones. > Only the keeper sees > That, where the ring-dove broods, > And the badgers roll at ease, > There was once a road through the woods. > > Yet, if you enter the woods > Of a summer evening late, > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > Where the otter whistles his mate. > (They fear not men in the woods, > Because they see so few) > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > Steadily cantering through > The misty solitudes, > As though they perfectly knew > The old lost road through the woods…. > But there is no road through the woods. > > The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Great, Krys!I guess it is worth trying it, to see if things get better.Have a great weekend.CeciliaFrom: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Sat, July 2, 2011 6:18:24 PMSubject: Re: Re: Smite-a-mite Hello Cecilia,You already have the ingredients which they have used to make this product. It is Benzalkonium Chloride (BC), a surfactant (a good washing up liquid fulfils this requirement) & table salt. Your Benzalkonium Chloride is a strong concentration, so something like 1 part BC, 2 parts good quality washing up liquid & 7 parts water with a bit of table salt would make the identical product. Their product is made for chicken houses where the red bird mite is pretty freqent but it would be fine in a human house too. All the bestKrysOn 2 July 2011 05:35, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote: THis seems really interesting, Krys!If there is a company seelling this stuff directly for mites, it must meen there are many having the problem, otherwise there wold be no market. Has your mother tried it?Cecilia From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites <bird mites > Sent: Fri, July 1, 2011 6:29:50 PMSubject: Re: Smite-a-mite I don't know whether anyone saw the relevance of this post. It would make appear ( & it makes sense) that people using Lysol ( & similar products) would make it even more effective if they add some high quality washing up liquid. On 29 June 2011 08:45, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote: I am often looking around at products, available in UK, which might help my mother. I was digging around discussion groups & found quite a few good reports for products called "Smite-a-mite" http://smite-a-mite.com/ ...................I'm never big on buying potentially expensive products when one might be able to do a considerably cheaper DIY version......so I thought I'd research their products a bit. Looking into their programme http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/mite-control.html.................the programme involves buying both of their products (what a surprise <grin>) Very helpfully they provide safety data sheets which give the active ingredients.http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/Resources/Smite-Professional-data-sheet.pdf .................... & there we find the active ingredients, for one of the products, are our old friend from preparations such as Lysol, benzalkonium chloride, though in a stronger solution than Lysol, & a nonionic surficant Alkyl alcohol ethoxylate, plus a small amount of sodium chloride (table salt). & , judging by their descriptin, their other product is most likely diatomacious earth. Many have found Lysol & similar products to be helpful though I have never read anywhere, why this would be effective against mites as it is not generally indicated as an acaricide. Very helpfully, the manufactureres of this product have put an explanation as to why benzalkonium chloride would kill mites. http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/about-mite.html ".........One of the best methods of attacking Red Mite therefore is to use a strong degreasant compound which dissolves the exoskeleton and rapidly kills the mite by desiccation. This method has the advantage that it is impossible for the mite to build resistance, a growing problem with many pesticides, and means that the same treatment can be applied repeatedly to keep the infestation under control.Smite is a specially selected, super-strength degreasant, disinfectant cleaner, with excellent wetting properties, which has been proven highly effective at eliminating Red Mite in poultry housing. It is pleasant to use, for both the operator and the birds, is economical and contains no pesticides. "So, in the first product, the benzalkonium chloride at 5+% is the degreasant/disinfectant, the surficant gives better wetting properties, & the second product is DE. We ought to all be able to reproduce their mite smiting products cheaply & easly. ;~D I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who. Rudyard Kipling -- They shut the road through the woods Seventy years ago. Weather and rain have undone it again, And now you would never know There was once a road through the woods Before they planted the trees. It is underneath the coppice and heath, And the thin anemones. Only the keeper sees That, where the ring-dove broods, And the badgers roll at ease, There was once a road through the woods. Yet, if you enter the woods Of a summer evening late, When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools Where the otter whistles his mate. (They fear not men in the woods, Because they see so few) You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, And the swish of a skirt in the dew, Steadily cantering through The misty solitudes, As though they perfectly knew The old lost road through the woods…. But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling -- They shut the road through the woods Seventy years ago. Weather and rain have undone it again, And now you would never know There was once a road through the woods Before they planted the trees. It is underneath the coppice and heath, And the thin anemones. Only the keeper sees That, where the ring-dove broods, And the badgers roll at ease, There was once a road through the woods. Yet, if you enter the woods Of a summer evening late, When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools Where the otter whistles his mate. (They fear not men in the woods, Because they see so few) You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, And the swish of a skirt in the dew, Steadily cantering through The misty solitudes, As though they perfectly knew The old lost road through the woods…. But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 The product is made for red bird mites (Dermayssus gallinae). I was particularly interested because the active ingredients are Alkyldimethylbenzlammonium chloride aka Benzalkonium Chloride which is the same active ingredient in Lysol/Dettol (which people have been using with success) & a non ionic surfacant (a surfacant reduces the surface tension of water) & , sodium carbonate, (sorry I was wrong about the sodium carbonate I ought to have looked, table salt is sodium chloride). So I thought if people were using Lysol for spraying, they might try adding a good quality washing up liquid (which are high in surfacants) because it might make the mixture even more effective. On 2 July 2011 09:43, <Goldstein@...> wrote: Krys,Do you know if this Smite-a-Mite will kill all mites? Maybe it is made for dust mites? From: " Cecilia Borg " <ceciliaborg@...> bird mites Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2011 3:35:03 AMSubject: Re: Re: Smite-a-mite THis seems really interesting, Krys!If there is a company seelling this stuff directly for mites, it must meen there are many having the problem, otherwise there wold be no market. Has your mother tried it?Cecilia From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites <bird mites > Sent: Fri, July 1, 2011 6:29:50 PMSubject: Re: Smite-a-mite I don't know whether anyone saw the relevance of this post. It would make appear ( & it makes sense) that people using Lysol ( & similar products) would make it even more effective if they add some high quality washing up liquid. On 29 June 2011 08:45, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote: I am often looking around at products, available in UK, which might help my mother. I was digging around discussion groups & found quite a few good reports for products called " Smite-a-mite " http://smite-a-mite.com/ ...................I'm never big on buying potentially expensive products when one might be able to do a considerably cheaper DIY version......so I thought I'd research their products a bit. Looking into their programme http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/mite-control.html.................the programme involves buying both of their products (what a surprise <grin>) Very helpfully they provide safety data sheets which give the active ingredients.http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/Resources/Smite-Professional-data-sheet.pdf .................... & there we find the active ingredients, for one of the products, are our old friend from preparations such as Lysol, benzalkonium chloride, though in a stronger solution than Lysol, & a nonionic surficant Alkyl alcohol ethoxylate, plus a small amount of sodium chloride (table salt). & , judging by their descriptin, their other product is most likely diatomacious earth. Many have found Lysol & similar products to be helpful though I have never read anywhere, why this would be effective against mites as it is not generally indicated as an acaricide. Very helpfully, the manufactureres of this product have put an explanation as to why benzalkonium chloride would kill mites. http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/about-mite.html " .........One of the best methods of attacking Red Mite therefore is to use a strong degreasant compound which dissolves the exoskeleton and rapidly kills the mite by desiccation. This method has the advantage that it is impossible for the mite to build resistance, a growing problem with many pesticides, and means that the same treatment can be applied repeatedly to keep the infestation under control.Smite is a specially selected, super-strength degreasant, disinfectant cleaner, with excellent wetting properties, which has been proven highly effective at eliminating Red Mite in poultry housing. It is pleasant to use, for both the operator and the birds, is economical and contains no pesticides. " So, in the first product, the benzalkonium chloride at 5+% is the degreasant/disinfectant, the surficant gives better wetting properties, & the second product is DE. We ought to all be able to reproduce their mite smiting products cheaply & easly. ;~D I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who. Rudyard Kipling -- They shut the road through the woods Seventy years ago. Weather and rain have undone it again, And now you would never know There was once a road through the woods Before they planted the trees. It is underneath the coppice and heath, And the thin anemones. Only the keeper sees That, where the ring-dove broods, And the badgers roll at ease, There was once a road through the woods. Yet, if you enter the woods Of a summer evening late, When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools Where the otter whistles his mate. (They fear not men in the woods, Because they see so few) You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, And the swish of a skirt in the dew, Steadily cantering through The misty solitudes, As though they perfectly knew The old lost road through the woods…. But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling -- They shut the road through the woods Seventy years ago. Weather and rain have undone it again, And now you would never know There was once a road through the woods Before they planted the trees. It is underneath the coppice and heath, And the thin anemones. Only the keeper sees That, where the ring-dove broods, And the badgers roll at ease, There was once a road through the woods. Yet, if you enter the woods Of a summer evening late, When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools Where the otter whistles his mate. (They fear not men in the woods, Because they see so few) You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, And the swish of a skirt in the dew, Steadily cantering through The misty solitudes, As though they perfectly knew The old lost road through the woods…. But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 The product is made for red bird mites (Dermayssus gallinae). I was particularly interested because the active ingredients are Alkyldimethylbenzlammonium chloride aka Benzalkonium Chloride which is the same active ingredient in Lysol/Dettol (which people have been using with success) & a non ionic surfacant (a surfacant reduces the surface tension of water) & , sodium carbonate, (sorry I was wrong about the sodium carbonate I ought to have looked, table salt is sodium chloride). So I thought if people were using Lysol for spraying, they might try adding a good quality washing up liquid (which are high in surfacants) because it might make the mixture even more effective. On 2 July 2011 09:43, <Goldstein@...> wrote: Krys,Do you know if this Smite-a-Mite will kill all mites? Maybe it is made for dust mites? From: " Cecilia Borg " <ceciliaborg@...> bird mites Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2011 3:35:03 AMSubject: Re: Re: Smite-a-mite THis seems really interesting, Krys!If there is a company seelling this stuff directly for mites, it must meen there are many having the problem, otherwise there wold be no market. Has your mother tried it?Cecilia From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites <bird mites > Sent: Fri, July 1, 2011 6:29:50 PMSubject: Re: Smite-a-mite I don't know whether anyone saw the relevance of this post. It would make appear ( & it makes sense) that people using Lysol ( & similar products) would make it even more effective if they add some high quality washing up liquid. On 29 June 2011 08:45, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote: I am often looking around at products, available in UK, which might help my mother. I was digging around discussion groups & found quite a few good reports for products called " Smite-a-mite " http://smite-a-mite.com/ ...................I'm never big on buying potentially expensive products when one might be able to do a considerably cheaper DIY version......so I thought I'd research their products a bit. Looking into their programme http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/mite-control.html.................the programme involves buying both of their products (what a surprise <grin>) Very helpfully they provide safety data sheets which give the active ingredients.http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/Resources/Smite-Professional-data-sheet.pdf .................... & there we find the active ingredients, for one of the products, are our old friend from preparations such as Lysol, benzalkonium chloride, though in a stronger solution than Lysol, & a nonionic surficant Alkyl alcohol ethoxylate, plus a small amount of sodium chloride (table salt). & , judging by their descriptin, their other product is most likely diatomacious earth. Many have found Lysol & similar products to be helpful though I have never read anywhere, why this would be effective against mites as it is not generally indicated as an acaricide. Very helpfully, the manufactureres of this product have put an explanation as to why benzalkonium chloride would kill mites. http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/about-mite.html " .........One of the best methods of attacking Red Mite therefore is to use a strong degreasant compound which dissolves the exoskeleton and rapidly kills the mite by desiccation. This method has the advantage that it is impossible for the mite to build resistance, a growing problem with many pesticides, and means that the same treatment can be applied repeatedly to keep the infestation under control.Smite is a specially selected, super-strength degreasant, disinfectant cleaner, with excellent wetting properties, which has been proven highly effective at eliminating Red Mite in poultry housing. It is pleasant to use, for both the operator and the birds, is economical and contains no pesticides. " So, in the first product, the benzalkonium chloride at 5+% is the degreasant/disinfectant, the surficant gives better wetting properties, & the second product is DE. We ought to all be able to reproduce their mite smiting products cheaply & easly. ;~D I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who. Rudyard Kipling -- They shut the road through the woods Seventy years ago. Weather and rain have undone it again, And now you would never know There was once a road through the woods Before they planted the trees. It is underneath the coppice and heath, And the thin anemones. Only the keeper sees That, where the ring-dove broods, And the badgers roll at ease, There was once a road through the woods. Yet, if you enter the woods Of a summer evening late, When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools Where the otter whistles his mate. (They fear not men in the woods, Because they see so few) You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, And the swish of a skirt in the dew, Steadily cantering through The misty solitudes, As though they perfectly knew The old lost road through the woods…. But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling -- They shut the road through the woods Seventy years ago. Weather and rain have undone it again, And now you would never know There was once a road through the woods Before they planted the trees. It is underneath the coppice and heath, And the thin anemones. Only the keeper sees That, where the ring-dove broods, And the badgers roll at ease, There was once a road through the woods. Yet, if you enter the woods Of a summer evening late, When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools Where the otter whistles his mate. (They fear not men in the woods, Because they see so few) You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, And the swish of a skirt in the dew, Steadily cantering through The misty solitudes, As though they perfectly knew The old lost road through the woods…. But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Hi krys I used Benzalkonium chloride in a wash like it is used for Surgeons to scrup up with , it is very very strong. It is also used as a skin peeler for women in cosmitoligy Benzalkonium chloride is also an ingredient in bactine . The pharmacist at CVS pharmacy said Benzalkonium chloride is a penetrant , thus: in bactine affecting a ' feeling' on the bug bite area . I used it on my feet for ring worm from a dog we adoted , it kills it in 2 days ( unlike any other medicine I found) . One day I put it on 1 foot , then forgot to do the other foot & went back & reapplied it to the other & a 2nd application to the 1st foot since I accidentley washed it off the 1 st foot . 20 mins later I had a terrible pain in the 1st foot the bone joint of the ankle started aching , I could bare walk . I was in a motel to get away from the mites at my apt & I could not walk to go pay the rent , it hurt for hrs , finally I could walk but with terrible pain . I felt as if the Benzalkonium chloride had deteriorated the ankle joint where I had broken the ankle 22 years before . Agetr the anke injury had set & cured in a cast I had had no pain ever until the Benzalkonium chloride was applied . This pain lasted for 1 year I stil belive it was the Benzalkonium chloride had penetrated into the bone & disolved the calcium that my body had built up arournd the ankle break , making my ankle feel weak & painful for 1 year. . Benzalkonium chloride is very powerful , I would be wary of braething any mist if it is in Lysol . on the other hand sodium carbonate : the active ingredient in Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent is the end of this bug , & hasn't caused me any pains or discomfort in using it 1 cup per bath tub & 1 cup per gallon o water in the garden sprayer . 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Selah. On Sat Jul 2nd, 2011 9:59 PM EDT Krys Brennand wrote: >The product is made for red bird mites (Dermayssus gallinae). >I was particularly interested because the active ingredients are >Alkyldimethylbenzlammonium chloride aka Benzalkonium Chloride which is the >same active ingredient in Lysol/Dettol (which people have been using with >success) & a non ionic surfacant (a surfacant reduces the surface tension of >water) & , sodium carbonate, (sorry I was wrong about the sodium carbonate I >ought to have looked, table salt is sodium chloride). So I thought if people >were using Lysol for spraying, they might try adding a good quality washing >up liquid (which are high in surfacants) because it might make the mixture >even more effective. > >On 2 July 2011 09:43, <Goldstein@...> wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> Krys, >> >> Do you know if this Smite-a-Mite will kill all mites? Maybe it is made for >> dust mites? >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: * " Cecilia Borg " <ceciliaborg@...> >> **bird mites >> *Sent: *Saturday, July 2, 2011 3:35:03 AM >> *Subject: *Re: Re: Smite-a-mite >> >> >> >> >> THis seems really interesting, Krys! >> If there is a company seelling this stuff directly for mites, it must meen >> there are many having the problem, otherwise there wold be no market. >> Has your mother tried it? >> >> Cecilia >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> >> *To:* bird mites <bird mites > >> *Sent:* Fri, July 1, 2011 6:29:50 PM >> *Subject:* Re: Smite-a-mite >> >> >> >> I don't know whether anyone saw the relevance of this post. It would make >> appear ( & it makes sense) that people using Lysol ( & similar products) would >> make it even more effective if they add some high quality washing up liquid. >> >> On 29 June 2011 08:45, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote: >> >>> >>> I am often looking around at products, available in UK, which might help >>> my mother. I was digging around discussion groups & found quite a few good >>> reports for products called " Smite-a-mite " >>> http://smite-a-mite.com/ >>> >>> ..................I'm never big on buying potentially expensive products >>> when one might be able to do a considerably cheaper DIY version......so I >>> thought I'd research their products a bit. >>> >>> Looking into their programme >>> http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/mite-control.html >>> >>> .................the programme involves buying both of their products >>> (what a surprise <grin>) >>> >>> Very helpfully they provide safety data sheets which give the active >>> ingredients. >>> >>> http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/Resources/Smite-Professional-data-she\ et.pdf >>> >>> ................... & there we find the active ingredients, for one of the >>> products, are our old friend from preparations such as Lysol, benzalkonium >>> chloride, though in a stronger solution than Lysol, & a nonionic surficant >>> Alkyl alcohol ethoxylate, plus a small amount of sodium chloride (table >>> salt). >>> & , judging by their descriptin, their other product is most likely >>> diatomacious earth. >>> >>> Many have found Lysol & similar products to be helpful though I have never >>> read anywhere, why this would be effective against mites as it is not >>> generally indicated as an acaricide. >>> Very helpfully, the manufactureres of this product have put an explanation >>> as to why benzalkonium chloride would kill mites. >>> http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/about-mite.html >>> >>> " .........One of the best methods of attacking Red Mite therefore is to >>> use a strong degreasant compound which dissolves the exoskeleton and rapidly >>> kills the mite by desiccation. This method has the advantage that it is >>> impossible for the mite to build resistance, a growing problem with many >>> pesticides, and means that the same treatment can be applied repeatedly to >>> keep the infestation under control. >>> Smite is a specially selected, super-strength degreasant, disinfectant >>> cleaner, with excellent wetting properties, which has been proven highly >>> effective at eliminating Red Mite in poultry housing. It is pleasant to use, >>> for both the operator and the birds, is economical and contains no >>> pesticides. " >>> >>> So, in the first product, the benzalkonium chloride at 5+% is the >>> degreasant/disinfectant, the surficant gives better wetting properties, & >>> the second product is DE. We ought to all be able to reproduce their mite >>> smiting products cheaply & easly. ;~D >>> >>> >>> I keep six honest serving-men >>> (They taught me all I knew); >>> Their names are What and Why and When >>> And How and Where and Who. >>> >>> *Rudyard Kipling* >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> They shut the road through the woods >> Seventy years ago. >> Weather and rain have undone it again, >> And now you would never know >> There was once a road through the woods >> Before they planted the trees. >> It is underneath the coppice and heath, >> And the thin anemones. >> Only the keeper sees >> That, where the ring-dove broods, >> And the badgers roll at ease, >> There was once a road through the woods. >> >> Yet, if you enter the woods >> Of a summer evening late, >> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools >> Where the otter whistles his mate. >> (They fear not men in the woods, >> Because they see so few) >> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, >> And the swish of a skirt in the dew, >> Steadily cantering through >> The misty solitudes, >> As though they perfectly knew >> The old lost road through the woods…. >> But there is no road through the woods. >> * >> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling >> >> >> > > > >-- >They shut the road through the woods >Seventy years ago. >Weather and rain have undone it again, >And now you would never know >There was once a road through the woods >Before they planted the trees. >It is underneath the coppice and heath, >And the thin anemones. >Only the keeper sees >That, where the ring-dove broods, >And the badgers roll at ease, >There was once a road through the woods. > >Yet, if you enter the woods >Of a summer evening late, >When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools >Where the otter whistles his mate. >(They fear not men in the woods, >Because they see so few) >You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, >And the swish of a skirt in the dew, >Steadily cantering through >The misty solitudes, >As though they perfectly knew >The old lost road through the woods…. >But there is no road through the woods. >* >The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Very good research Krys, really appreciate it! Im am going to wash my house with a mixture of that. > > > > > I am often looking around at products, available in UK, which might help my > > mother. I was digging around discussion groups & found quite a few good > > reports for products called " Smite-a-mite " > > http://smite-a-mite.com/ > > > > ..................I'm never big on buying potentially expensive products > > when one might be able to do a considerably cheaper DIY version......so I > > thought I'd research their products a bit. > > > > Looking into their programme > > http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/mite-control.html > > > > .................the programme involves buying both of their products (what > > a surprise <grin>) > > > > Very helpfully they provide safety data sheets which give the active > > ingredients. > > > > http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/Resources/Smite-Professional-data-she\ et.pdf > > > > ................... & there we find the active ingredients, for one of the > > products, are our old friend from preparations such as Lysol, benzalkonium > > chloride, though in a stronger solution than Lysol, & a nonionic surficant > > Alkyl alcohol ethoxylate, plus a small amount of sodium chloride (table > > salt). > > & , judging by their descriptin, their other product is most likely > > diatomacious earth. > > > > Many have found Lysol & similar products to be helpful though I have never > > read anywhere, why this would be effective against mites as it is not > > generally indicated as an acaricide. > > Very helpfully, the manufactureres of this product have put an explanation > > as to why benzalkonium chloride would kill mites. > > http://smite-a-mite.com/Smite-Professional/about-mite.html > > > > " .........One of the best methods of attacking Red Mite therefore is to use > > a strong degreasant compound which dissolves the exoskeleton and rapidly > > kills the mite by desiccation. This method has the advantage that it is > > impossible for the mite to build resistance, a growing problem with many > > pesticides, and means that the same treatment can be applied repeatedly to > > keep the infestation under control. > > Smite is a specially selected, super-strength degreasant, disinfectant > > cleaner, with excellent wetting properties, which has been proven highly > > effective at eliminating Red Mite in poultry housing. It is pleasant to use, > > for both the operator and the birds, is economical and contains no > > pesticides. " > > > > So, in the first product, the benzalkonium chloride at 5+% is the > > degreasant/disinfectant, the surficant gives better wetting properties, & > > the second product is DE. We ought to all be able to reproduce their mite > > smiting products cheaply & easly. ;~D > > > > > > I keep six honest serving-men > > (They taught me all I knew); > > Their names are What and Why and When > > And How and Where and Who. > > > > *Rudyard Kipling* > > > > > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods > Seventy years ago. > Weather and rain have undone it again, > And now you would never know > There was once a road through the woods > Before they planted the trees. > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > And the thin anemones. > Only the keeper sees > That, where the ring-dove broods, > And the badgers roll at ease, > There was once a road through the woods. > > Yet, if you enter the woods > Of a summer evening late, > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > Where the otter whistles his mate. > (They fear not men in the woods, > Because they see so few) > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > Steadily cantering through > The misty solitudes, > As though they perfectly knew > The old lost road through the woods…. > But there is no road through the woods. > * > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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